the evil that men do lives within and after them.

I wonder why the nigeria govt hasn't done anything about these boko haram group. If it were MEND or any other group from the niger delta, people go de shout. That's selective justice. Maybe its coz their activities does not threaten the country's revenue accounts. Otherwise, the FG would have sent 500 trailer load of soldiers to maiduguri

Burning a police station for no stated reason. Some muslims are peace-loving while others are plain silly. How many versions of the Koran are there?

na IBB.

dunce

oweniwe:

I wonder why the nigeria govt hasn't done anything about these boko haram group. If it were MEND or any other group from the niger delta, people go de shout. That's selective justice. Maybe its coz their activities does not threaten the country's revenue accounts. Otherwise, the FG would have sent 500 trailer load of soldiers to maiduguri

Are you thinking with your arss, where the hell you have been?

Cos like everything in Nigeria, no leadership so people carry on as they like. We need strong leadership, I am afraid I dont see it in the horizon.


Boko Haram, Mend, Kidnappers, Corrupt Leaders, Bad and unsafe roads, Armed Robbers, Hired Killers, Juju and Oturumakpo, Bombers. The list is endless. The typicaly Nigerian is getting a raw deal.


Please guys, open your eyes. We have a very good opportunity to choose right once again. The candidates are plenty, do not settle for PDP, they have proven for the last 12yrs that they are visionless and not capable. Dont sell yourselves short by being politically lazy, explore all the options open to all of us.

Northern Nigeria again? Dont these guys get tired of violence? God have mercy. I think the problem with those guys is illiteracy because if they are literate enough,they should know that violence is not the solution to any problem but rather it worsens any situation as lives and properties would be lost in the process.

Make nigeria divide joo. I can't imagine myself singing the same national anthem with those idiots

Gayigaskia:

Are you thinking with your arss, where the hell you have been?

i don't understand you dear. I made a point. If you are not cool with what i said, then you're welcomed to say why and make ya own contribution instead of asking "gayigaskia questions"

kafanchan:

Make nigeria divide joo. I can't imagine myself singing the same national anthem with those idiots

That would not even solve the problem so it's not a viable option.

We need to pray more for this nation.

kafanchan:

Make nigeria divide joo. I can't imagine myself singing the same national anthem with those idiots

MEND does not kill but fight their long awaiting right, but do this unscropulouse boko haram group by waisting innocent souls. I think govt should create or build army base at that zone and border for security measure.

kafanchan:

Make nigeria divide joo. I can't imagine myself singing the same national anthem with those idiots

You actually think they know the national anthem?

In the naija delta, MEND dey represent!
In the north, Boko Haram dey try, once in a while!
South west, who dey fight for una self?

oweniwe:

I wonder why the nigeria govt hasn't done anything about these boko haram group. If it were MEND or any other group from the niger delta, people go de shout. That's selective justice. Maybe its coz their activities does not threaten the country's revenue accounts. Otherwise, the FG would have sent 500 trailer load of soldiers to maiduguri

You are ill-informed, thats all, yesterday, I posted an article about the FG sending the army into Bornu state. This is the link https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-529956.0.html
and this is the article;

[size=14pt]FG to deploy troops against Boko Haram in Borno[/size]
News Oct 11, 2010 By Daniel Idonor

ABUJA—THE Federal Government is said to be contemplating the deployment of troops in the troubled Borno State following the bloody violence perpetrated by Boko Haram, a religious sect, which left 12 security operatives dead.

This indication emerged, yesterday, when President Goodluck Jonathan met with Governor Ali Modu_Sheriff of Borno State, behind closed doors, along with top security operatives in the country, over the state of affairs in the troubled state.

Fielding questions from State House Correspondents after the meeting, Sheriff said: “Everything will be put in place to ensure the place is not like a guerilla zone that they can just come and hit somebody and go back. I want to assure you that the commander-in-chief is doing everything possible to ensure the matter is put to rest once and for all.”

The governor told newsmen: “Twelve people died. Most of them were police personnel and one of them was my national vice chairman but I want you to understand that chief security officer of a state has a limit. In Nigeria the police operate under the Federal Government and no state has police or military.

Your being chief security office is by name, the deployment of military personnel has to come from the commander_in_chief and that is the one reason we are here to let the commander_in_chief know.”
Asked if the President has approved the deployment of troops in the troubled state, the governor said:

“These are security matters. My discussions with the commander_in_chief should not be a matter for the public, once is security it has to remain security. But I want to assure you that lives and property will be protected.”

Despite the fear being expressed by non_indigenes of the state over the growing violence, the governor said: “In Borno State, indigenes and non_indigenes will be protected. There is no difference between an indigene and non_indigene; lives are supposed to be protected. The protection of lives and property is the responsibility of government and government will do everything to protect them.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/10/fg-to-deploy-troops-against-boko-haram-in-borno/

oweniwe:

I wonder why the nigeria govt hasn't done anything about these boko haram group. If it were MEND or any other group from the niger delta, people go de shout. That's selective justice. Maybe its coz their activities does not threaten the country's revenue accounts. Otherwise, the FG would have sent 500 trailer load of soldiers to maiduguri

Where were you when their leader was killed by the police last year?

Mr. president is going to have a difficult time dealing with those guys, especially after absolving MEND(which he called his people) of blames in the october bombing. He'd better deal with MEND first. Anybody that takes up arms against the government no matter how justified his/her reasons must be dealt with.

We need strong leadership, all this rubbish pussyfooting gets us nowhere. In this case it looks like the government doesnt know what to do. Clueless as usual

monkeyleg:

We need strong leadership, all this rubbish pussyfooting gets us nowhere. In this case it looks like the government doesnt know what to do. Clueless as usual

what would the government do considering our non existent police force and witchhunting security services?

After freeing prisoners in bauchi suspected to be their members(they are still at large),this is yet another strike!
When can we have peace straight for a month in this Nation? I wonder,maybe until people have basic things:food to eat,an average job to do,water to drink,constant light,good roads,sound health systems,a transport system that works and leaders in the real sense of the word!

monkeyleg:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101012/ap_on_re_af/af_nigeria_violence

no muslim in his right mind will support or par take in this arson. do not rule out political motives in this issues

slap1:

Burning a police station for no stated reason. Some muslims are peace-loving while others are plain silly. How many versions of the Koran are there?

the koran never teaches or preaches violence, its just their mind set

Kx:

In the naija delta, MEND dey represent!
In the north, Boko Haram dey try, once in a while!
South west, who dey fight for una self?

very funny, opc and road union workers abi i hear say they too they fear

i care:

na IBB.
dunce

typical of a Nigerian

nadneth:

Northern Nigeria again? Dont these guys get tired of violence? God have mercy. I think the problem with those guys is illiteracy because if they are literate enough,they should know that violence is not the solution to any problem but rather it worsens any situation as lives and properties would be lost in the process.

i hope you have the same feelings towards MEND.

kafanchan:

Make nigeria divide joo. I can't imagine myself singing the same national anthem with those idiots

its really a pitiful situation for you considering you are sharing their name in your user name. do you think everybody in the north in as daft as you are. can you even sing the national anthem. if north dey vex you, go hug transformer

@ beaf- of course i was aware when those events took place. The deployment of troops is only a temporary measure to curtail the outbreak or spread of violence. It doesn't solve the real issues that need to be addressed. After the soldiers have been withdrawn nko? They start killing and burning again. What i'm saying is that the FG should find a way to solve the problem once for all instead of deploying troops anyhow like as if it'll solve the problem

@Oweniwe,

Exactly, the government hasnt got a clue on how to deal with the rapidly detoriating security situation in the country. Nigerians should start demanding proper work from their government rather than siddon look as usual

md4real:

i hope you have the same feelings towards MEND.

Violence is bad whether it is caused by MEND,MASSOB,OPC,AREWA,TALIBAN etc. We should all condemn violence of any sort in this country.

the solution 2 dese nonsence is 4 d govt to look at crime in d face and deal wit it seriously if crime in d SS is delt with oil or no oil. Crime in north is delt with presidents ppl or not. So to the west and east. then, we can say well done. But when crime is clothed in political, regional ethnic,religious, and resource control. This is what we get.

The Quran specifically asks muslims to slay infidels and lay waste to them you numbskull, dont pick and choose what the book says.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm.

Click the link to read the violent verses in the Q'uran like;
2)191-193 which states, slay them wherever you find them,and drive them out from where they drove you out,for the persecution of muslims is worse than the slaughter of "unbelievers".


Oh and while you are reading the hateful Q'uran verses, that I posted on the link, hug this trasnformer

their calculations misfired on the Abuja bomb blast now they have switched to their plan B:- unleash the Boko Haram to cause mayhem and weaken GEJ.
But they will FAIL and fail WOEFULLY as they did with the bomb blast.
Jonathan should identify and deal decisively with the culprits and their sponsors.

kabukabu50:

The Quran specifically asks muslims to slay infidels and lay waste to them you numbskull, dont pick and choose what the book says.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm.

Click the link to read the violent verses in the Q'uran like;
2)191-193 which states, slay them wherever you find them,and drive them out from where they drove you out,for the persecution of muslims is worse than the slaughter of "unbelievers".

(why didn't you complete the verses and also include the verses before this verse.obviously doing the thing you were thought best lie and defame others i believe)

You may want to check this out - "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MoRTfS75X8"


Oh and while you are reading the hateful Q'uran verses, that I posted on the link, hug this trasnformer

okay hope you read this and understand where your views stand.lets correct this wrong perception and change those who have mis-placed it muslims and christians.

And slay them wherever ye catch them, ” (2:191)

A classic called ‘cut and paste’ . The Quranic Verse and explanation is in full below:

2:190-194 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves.

How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verse were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as ‘terrorist activities’ according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? “Fight in the cause of God those who fight you”, “unless they (first) fight you there” - the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear: “But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight: “fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God”. It is the duty of Muslims to defend humanity from oppression and persecution and to establish justice. Muslims believe that God has placed us here on earth as his deputy or viceroy, and thus, it is our duty to enjoin the good and forbid the evil, to establish peace and justice in the land. Dr. Maher Hathout writes the following on verses 2:190-194:

These verses were applicable to a particular situation or if, hypothetically, the same situation was to be repeated? Historically, fighting back against the aggressors was prohibited during the thirteen years of the Meccan period. After the migration to Medina and the establishment of the Islamic state, Muslims were concerned with how to defend themselves against aggression from their enemies. The aforementioned verses were revealed to enable them to protect the newly formed state by fighting in self-defence against those who fought them. However, the Qur’an clearly prohibits aggression. The verses explain that fighting is only for self-defence. Thus, a Muslim cannot commit aggression and kill innocent men, women, children, the sick, the elderly, monks, priests, or those who do not wish to fight. A Muslim is also mandated not to destroy plant life of livestock. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.49, emphasis added)
The historical context is something that must always be considered where developing an understanding of Qur’anic verses. Without knowing the circumstances behind the revelation, one cannot apply the verse as accurately. Shaykh Salman Al-Oadah writes about the general principles in Jihad:

Jihad can never be fought for worldly gain, for conquest, or even for revenge. Muslims must only fight to protect the lives, property, and freedoms of people, especially their freedom to worship Allah when that freedom is forcibly attacked. They are never allowed to attack innocent people, even when they are themselves attacked by the countrymen of those innocents. Any people that go against this established principle of Islamic Law and murder civilians are fighting against Islam and everything that it stands for. It is ludicrous for them to call this fighting a jih?d, a word that means striving in the cause of Islam. They are in fact murderers in the light of Islamic Law and should be treated as such. (SOURCE, emphasis added)

There are strict and detailed laws in Islam, which Muslims must follow carefully. A military Jihad must be performed under these regulations. Abdullah Yusuf Ali writes about verse 2:190:
War is only permissible in self-defence, and under well-defined limits. When undertaken, it must be pushed with vigour, but not relentlessly, but only to restore peace and freedom for the worship of God. In any case strict limits must not be transgressed: women, children, old and infirm men should not be molested, nor trees and crops cut down, nor peace withheld when the enemy comes to terms. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Text, Translation and Commentary )

He then re-iterates the general principles behind Jihad in his commentary on verse 2:191:

In general, it may be said that Islam is the religion of peace, goodwill, mutual understanding, and good faith. But it will not acquiesce in wrong-doing, and its men will hold their lives cheap in defence of honour, justice, and the religion which they hold sacred. Their ideal is that of heroic virtue combined with unselfish gentleness and tenderness, such as is exemplified in the life of the Apostle. They believe in courage, obedience, discipline, duty, and a constant striving by all the means in their power, physical, moral, intellectual, and spiritual, for the establishment of truth and righteousness. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Text, Translation and Commentary )

This is the true focus behind Jihad, and Muslims must never lose this focus. Jihad is solely for the purpose of aiding humanity and bringing justice and freedom to the oppressed. Therefore, all actions must be in-line with this focus and the strict regulations governing Jihad. The focus is to defend, not destroy. One who focuses on the betterment and aid of humanity will realize that destruction will never achieve this. Abdul Majid Daryabadi writes extensively on verse 2:190:

2:190 “And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you” ? Violating the truce they themselves had signed. The Muslims, after having borne untold persecution with almost superhuman fortitude for years and years at the hands of the pagans of Makkah, are now for the first time enjoined to take to reprisals. ‘For a full thirteen years the Muslims were subjected to relentless persecution in Mecca. The Prophet and his followers fled for life to Medina, but the enemy would not leave them alone in their refuge. They came to attack them within a year, and the first three battles were fought in the very locality which will whether the Prophet was an assailant or defendant’ (Headley, The Original Church of Jesus Christ and Islam, p. 155). The Makkans had signed a truce and were the first to break it. The words ‘fight with those who fight you’ clearly show, firstly, that the Muslims were not the aggressors, and secondly, that those of the enemy who were not actual combatants ? children, women, monks, hermits, the aged and the infirm, the maimed, and the like ? had nothing at all to fear from the Muslim soldiery. It was in light of this express Divine injunction that the great Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, charged his troops into Syria, ‘not to mutilate the dead, nor to slay old men, women, and children, nor to cut down fruit-trees, nor to kill cattle unless they were needed for food; and these humane precepts served like a code of laws of war during the career of Mohammadan conquest.’ (Bosworth Smith, Mohammed and Mohammedanism, p. 185). Has not Islam thus, in prescribing war against those who break God’s law, who challenge His righteous authority, and who fill the world with violence and injustice, made every concession short of the impossible? Has any code of military ethics been so chivalrous, so humane and so tender towards the enemy? ‘The moral tone adopted by the Caliph Abu Bakr, in his instructions to the Syrian army, was’, says a modern Christian historian, ‘so unlike the principles of the Roman government, that it must have commanded profound attention from a subject people. Such a proclamation announced to Jews and Christians’ sentiments of justice and principles of toleration which neither Roman emperors nor orthodox bishops had ever adopted as the rule of their conduct’ (Finlay, Greece Under the Romans, pp. 367-368). (Daryabadi, The Glorious Qur’an, emphasis added)

Muhammad Asad explains verse 2:190 in the following manner:

This and the following verses lay down unequivocally that only self-defence (in the widest sense of the word) makes war permissible for Muslims. Most of the commentators agree in that the expression la ta’tadu signifies, in this context, “do not commit aggression”; while by al-mu’tadin “those who commit aggression” are meant. The defensive character of a fight “in God’s cause” - that is, in the cause of the ethical principles ordained by God - is, moreover, self-evident in the reference to “those who wage war against you”, and has been still further clarified in 22: 39 - “permission [to fight] is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged” - which, according to all available Traditions, constitutes the earliest (and therefore fundamental) Quranic reference to the question of jihad, or holy war (see Tabari and Ibn Kathir in their commentaries on 22: 39). That this early, fundamental principle of self-defence as the only possible justification of war has been maintained throughout the Quran is evident from 60: 8, as well as from the concluding sentence of 4: 91, both of which belong to a later period than the above verse. (Asad, The Message of the Qur’an, emphasis added)

And on verse 2:191, he states the following:

In view of the preceding ordinance, the injunction “slay them wherever you may come upon them” is valid only within the context of hostilities already in progress (Razi), on the understanding that “those who wage war against you” are the aggressors or oppressors (a war of liberation being a war “in God’s cause”). The translation, in this context, of fitnah as “oppression” is justified by the application of this term to any affliction which may cause man to go astray and to lose his faith in spiritual values (cf. Lisan al-Arab). (Asad, The Message of the Qur’an, emphasis added)
This extensive commentary on this verse should sufficiently address all confusion and misconceptions that resulted from misquoting this verse.

I do hope that regardless of everything, the president is able to tackle the security challenges ahead of him.when he said an early declaration of his intreast may heat up the polity, i think he should have said it would cause him alot of tumoil and complicate the reminder of his tenure.I believe God will see us all through including,especially the president and Government as the evil ones plot.
 Also please and please the leadership should also tackle the youth issues(un-employement,security and education) aggressively like the power issue.

eros:

Hmmmm!!!!! I thought these guys were only interested in rearing cattles. Why the sudden violet moves lately

Well,yes they do and you come along and buy them for your consumption .I think you are mistaken and you my friend need to check the background of the sect and the members ideaology . They've always being violent until they finally stepped on the government.Basically they have become a faceless militant group taking revenge on people who are against them during and after the government crushed them.
I think the issue of cow rearing has nothing to do with this.