Therefore the Negro nations are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

That is from Ibn Khaldun in 1377, one of the greatest Arab minds ever.


African migrants in Morocco feel victimised by the locals, and Moroccans in their turn are sometimes resentful of the newcomers.

The lack of understanding between the two groups is deep, as Jannie Schipper discovered on a visit to the forested area near the border with Spain. Along the side of the road from Fnideq to Ksar Sghir in northern Morocco sit six young men, their hands held out in a begging gesture.

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"Be careful, those Blacks might eat you", a Moroccan juice seller in the little border town of Fnideq warned us. They might what? “Yes, really,” he replies. “They can do anything.” Taxi drivers waiting for customers at the dusty square are just as unenthusiastic about visiting those Africans camping out in the forest. “Don’t go there, it is dangerous.”

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Arab Muslims do not tell their black “friends” that the word for BLACK, as in a Black person, in Arabic is “SLAVE.” This means that if you are a Black man, your Arab Moslem “friend” would describe you thus: “A man walked in to the store, and he was searching for you. He was a well-dressed slave, and wanted to buy some French fries.”

Black African guest workers in places like Egypt, Algeria and Libya have spoken about being publicly ridiculed and physically assaulted by Arabs. Egyptian writer Mona Eltahawy has written about watching a Sudanese girl being assaulted and tormented on the Cairo Metro, concluding, “We are racist people in Egypt and we are in deep denial.” She says the Arab world has ignored the suffering of Darfur because the victims are black. “We only pay attention when America and Israel behave badly

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(pic: Mona Eltawahy)

Aboubakr a black muslim from sudan says:
“Morocans cannot believe many of us are Muslims too.” According to him, people are surprised when they see him kneeling for prayer. “They don’t think a black can be Muslim.”


“Arabs hate black people. And that is not from today. It is in their blood,” said Aboubakr, a young man from Senegal who is hoping eventually to cross over into Europe, told the reporter for RNW (Radio Netherlands Worldwide). “Friends of mine were attacked with a knife. Bandits target us because they know we cannot go to the police, even if we are robbed and hurt. Having no papers, we will be caught instead. Blacks have no rights here.

Racist attitudes are also evident in other ways.
Souleymane a black African from Guinea-Conakry in West Africa is angry that Moroccans call him ‘African’ in a negative way. “They should consider us African brothers,” he says, “it is different when a European calls you African, or when another African does.” Aboubakr is also insulted that Moroccans “cannot believe many of us are Muslims too”. According to him, people are surprised when they see him kneeling for prayer. “They don’t think a Black can be Muslim.”


With Europe guarding its borders more and more closely in recent years, many migrants from other African countries are now stuck in Morocco. Some work as housemaids or as day labourers, very few find any regular employment. The authorities treat the migrants with a mix of negligence and occasional crackdowns in the form of raids and extraditions. Local reactions are also mixed.

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The migrants are reluctant to believe that they might meet more racism in Europe than in Morocco. If they finally manage to cross the border “Black and White people are good together,” claims Aboubakr in his ignorance. “In Holland, there are many Blacks on the national soccer team. Moroccans are just jealous.”

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“I have stopped caring if they are racist or not,” says Jules from Cameroon,” as long as they have work for me. And Moroccans don’t, so I need to go to Europe.”

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nemehare:
Go through it

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Sell your parents to play it. Abi you no want be like dangote ni?

Goat

Duh!! Anybody that isn't in the government can attest to that. Only UAE has a better tolerance of blacks. The rest of Arabs are more racist than a neo-nazi

What are you black skinned doing in Arab land? Leave Arab land and let them continue in their stupidity. I am a Muslim but I will never go to Mecca for Hajj. Arabs won't enslave me. If Mecca and Jerusalem are the only holy land in the world, then God did not make the rest of the world.

This is sad and terrible!

Nigerian Youths should stop the folly/foolishness of TRIBALLY fighting each other online/offline and fight the real enemy: the corrupt public/political office holders turning them against each other and their evil ideologies!

They have been using the divide and rule strategy against us! Great Youths, Unite against those robbing you and your generation yet unborn of a Beautiful life & future!!

Kindly repost & share on every social media platform till every youth wakes up!!!

We can and should do this TOGETHER

Arabs hate you?

You become what you think you are.. That's all!

Abeed is the Arabic word they call black people, it originally means slave but these Arabs lie by saying it means black just as to not be seen as racists.

Mohammed their prophet had black slaves and even traded two black slaves for one Arab slave.

Their prophet even discribed Satan as a black man.

Why do black Africans go to these racist countries?
You know very well these Arabs hate you and yet you still go there expecting sympathy from the world. If you can't get access to countries that would value you,then by all means stay back in your countries and help develop them. If every Nigerian should runaway,who would make Nigeria work?
Shun all these hateful countries! In fact, shun their religions too!

This supremacy is rooted in their religion which taught them that their WHITE prophet own so many BLACK slaves and compensated then with one house nigga called BILAL. who they now use as a propaganda tool to push that religion in black Africa. The Arab-Muslims can NEVER stop being racist because they already have been made to understand, in their religion and culture, that blacks are spiritually and naturally slaves to the Arabs.

Go ask the Sudanese for more answer.

Of course, as YOU refuse to have sense, sense will depart from your abode permanently.

You see these idiots breaking their necks, rushing to some 'unholy' land to offer rituals and dash away your money for a religion that completely despises them. They enslaved you and maltreated you. They even disrespect you today by denying the middle eastern slave trade ever existed. if you are not inferior, how do you look up to your slavers for spiritual guidance?

Here at the homefront, we will also have no peace and development for the black race because unfortunately, these muslim non-negro sellouts as well as their negro slaves are hell bent on making slaves of the rest of us. With these people around black race will never be free, or we will only rise to a level just beneath other races.

Reminds me of a nigerian christian who went to jerusalem sometime in the 90's. In the course of his pilgrimage, he met with a jewish rabbi who completely failed to understand their mission. The Rabbi was honest and told them about who 'jesus' really was. He came back labeling the jews as ignorant for denouncing their own saviour.
My response to him was, you think you know jesus better than them? If the natives denounce him who then exactly is promoting him and why?

Just like that, any white man strolls into africa. They abuse the locals and get away unscathed why? because they see him as a 'saviour' race.

Gudiza:
Of course, as YOU refuse to have sense, sense will depart from your abode permanently.

You see these idiots breaking their necks, rushing to some 'unholy' land to offer rituals and dash away your money for a religion that disregards them. They enslaved you and maltreated you, if you are not inferior how do you go back to your slavers for spiritual guidance?

Here, we will also have no peace and development for the black race because unfortunately, these muslim non-negro sellouts as well as their negro slaves are hell bent on making slaves of the rest of us.

Reminds me of a nigerian christian who went to jerusalem sometime in the 90's. In the course of his pilgrimage, he met with a jewish rabbi who completely failed to understand their mission. The man was honest and told them about who 'jesus' really was. He came back labeling the jews as ignorant for denouncing their own saviour.
My response to him was, you think you know jesus better than them? If the natives denounce him who then exactly is promoting him?

Just like that, any white man strolls into africa. They abuse the locals and get away unscathed why? because they see him as a 'saviour' race.

My uncle, early this year, wanted to brainwash me into going to Jerusalem with him. I asked him why and his response was that prayers are being answered very fast in Jerusalem. I looked at and smile but pretended as if I agreed with him because I don't want to expose his ignorance. I told him I would prefer going to the US than Jerusalem and he started preaching to me. This is what extensive brainwashing has done to many of us.

true2god:
My uncle, early this year, wanted to brainwash me into going to Jerusalem with him. I asked him why and his response was that prayers are being answered very fast in Jerusalem. I looked at and smile but pretended as if I agreed with him because I don't want to expose his ignorance. I told him I would prefer going to the US than Jerusalem and he started preaching to me. This is what extensive brainwashing has done to many of us.

Bro, it's not funny anymore. The colonials defeated the africans militarily & economically, but the icing on the cake for them was spiritual/cultural annihilation. This idea made africans unconsciously throw away their primary belief systems where they came first to adopt secondary ones which placed them beneath others. The consequences of that is most devastating. Africans were lost and became like children without direction, waiting for the arabs/european to tell us what to do.

Till today, these foreign powers believe (cos we accepted in the past) that it is their god given right to dictate to africans who our leaders should be, what we need, who we should align with etc. If you refuse to be spiritually fooled, they cause military or economic problems for you.

The experiment worked so well I'm sure some whites are still amazed till this day how we've so much assimilated these fake doctrines that it runs on autopilot! Our selfish preachers rather than free the people are sole beneficiaries of this farce today and that's why it remains. As long as these colonial structures are in place we will keep running in circles economically, militarily & spiritually (that's exactly what the structures are there for!)

We cannot continue to be hypnotised, there is a global awakening today. Documents are available online, some you read and shake your head.

Gudiza:


Bro, it's not funny anymore. The colonials defeated the africans militarily & economically, but the icing on the cake for them was spiritually/culturally. This idea made africans unconsciously throw away their primary belief systems where they came first to adopt secondary ones which placed them beneath others. The consequences of that is most devastating. Africans were lost and became like children without direction, waiting for the arabs/european to tell us what to do. Till today, these foreign powers believe (cos we accepted in the past) that it is their god given right to dictate to africans who our leaders should be, what we need, who we should align with etc. If you refuse to be spiritually fooled, they cause military problems for you.

The experiment worked so well i'm sure some of the whites are still amazed we have assimilated these fake doctrines so well that it runs on autopilot! Our preachers are the main beneficiaries of this farce today. We cannot continue to be hypnotised, there is a global awakening today, .

This is the summary of how African people were relegated both morally and spiritually. There was a stiff competition between the Arabs and the Europeans on who will outdo each other for the control of the soul of the black race. While the Europeans seem to have given up, or stopped, this spiritual conquest (it was no longer useful as a result of modern technology), the Arabs, having lost out in the game of modern science and technology, cling onto Islam as a last resort for the continual conquest and subjugation of the black race. While the European whites exploit our resources using their military and technological power, the Arab whites exploit us culturally using their religion as a weapon. We are fighting a serious battle on two fronts.

Why is China and Japan progressing? They don't have to deal with Anglo-american economic imperialism or Arabs religio-cultural invasion. These twin evil will destroy any race or power that crosses their path which we Africans are currently suffering. No race/nation can be conquered from within until they are conquered from without (outside).

Printerscanner:
What are you black skinned doing in Arab land? Leave Arab land and let them continue in their stupidity. I am a Muslim but I will never go to Mecca for Hajj. Arabs won't enslave me. If Mecca and Jerusalem are the only holy land in the world, then God did not make the rest of the world.

You are nor a Muslim.. No sane Muslim will ourightly refuse one if the pillars of Islam because of humans who will face judgement of the almighty for such conduct

Mustsucceed:



You are nor a Muslim.. No sane Muslim will ourightly refuse one if the pillars of Islam because of humans who will face judgement of the almighty for such conduct

you think everyone commenting here is well?. They can't discern religion from culture and people. Arabs and Whites have always been rascists and stupid.

Hajj is less than a month. What's that gotta do with Arab stupidity?. Muslims are there to fulfill Allah's injunctions nothing more.

We need to be careful of atheists and CHRISTIANS. This is one of their tactics. They delibrately want to confuse ignorant muslims to think Islam is only for Arabs therefore going for any religious activities makes them subservient to Arabs. You can see that from true2god's comments. The guy is losing his senseless lately. He's on the outskirt of CHRISTIANITY and 50% atheist. CHRISTIANs and CHRISTIANITY never had anything to do with Jerusalem. For this reason true2god is right about his uncle.

CHRISTIANs go to Jerusalem was borne out of jealousy for Islam and muslims. We as muslims have nothing to do with Arab rascism and Prophet Muhammad (saw) was not rascist.

The same way Arabs maltreat black muslims is the same way White Jews maltreat Black Jews and Black Christians

Empiree:
you think everyone commenting here is well?. They can't discern religion from culture and people. Arabs and Whites have always been rascists and stupid.

Hajj is less than a month. What's that gotta do with Arab stupidity?. Muslims are there to fulfill Allah's injunctions nothing more.

We need to be careful of atheists and CHRISTIANS. This is one of their tactics. They delibrately want to confuse ignorant muslims to think Islam is only for Arabs therefore going for any religious activities makes them subservient to Arabs. You can see that from true2god's comments. The guy is losing his senseless lately. He's on the outskirt of CHRISTIANITY and 50% atheist. CHRISTIANs and CHRISTIANITY never had anything to do with Jerusalem. For this reason true2god is right about his uncle.

CHRISTIANs go to Jerusalem was borne out of jealousy for Islam and muslims. We as muslims have nothing to do with Arab rascism and Prophet Muhammad (saw) was not rascist.

The same way Arabs maltreat black muslims is the same way White Jews maltreat Black Jews and Black Christians

You are right,brother.

Empiree:
you think everyone commenting here is well?. They can't discern religion from culture and people. Arabs and Whites have always been rascists and stupid.

I thought I have retired you from Nairaland 'Islam for Muslims' section; so you are still hanging by the thread. Your prophet is a racist and a slave trader as long as it is documented in your hadith and your seerah that he enslaved all the black people that came in contact with him.

Empiree:
Hajj is less than a month. What's that gotta do with Arab stupidity?. Muslims are there to fulfill Allah's injunctions nothing more.

Arabs are not stupid but black people are for following a man that enslaved their ancestors (Mohammed ibn Abdullah). If the Arabian prophet enslaved black people, how do you want the contemporary Arab-Muslims to regard you as a full human?

Empiree:
We need to be careful of atheists and CHRISTIANS. This is one of their tactics. They delibrately want to confuse ignorant muslims to think Islam is only for Arabs therefore going for any religious activities makes them subservient to Arabs. You can see that from true2god's comments. The guy is losing his senseless lately. He's on the outskirt of CHRISTIANITY and 50% atheist. CHRISTIANs and CHRISTIANITY never had anything to do with Jerusalem. For this reason true2god is right about his uncle.

I don't have to be a fool to be a christian. Going on a religious pilgrimage and wasting economic time and monetary resources is a crime against humanity. Black people should be ashamed of themselves for spending their meagre resources on religious pilgrimage to the Arab and the Jewish world. I am a christian but I use my commonsense. How can a sane country be spending 10-12% of their GDP on religious pilgrimage?

Empiree:
CHRISTIANs go to Jerusalem was borne out of jealousy for Islam and muslims. We as muslims have nothing to do with Arab rascism and Prophet Muhammad (saw) was not rascist.

You must be ignorant. Haven't you read about the Ethiopian Eunuch who made a religious pilgrimage to Jerusalem, in the act of the apostles (written over 500 years before the quran), and was witnessed by and Baptised by Philip, one of the apostles of Jesus christ? The Christians do not make it a religious jamboree, like Muslims, while going to Jerusalem. The Christians, had been going on pilgrimage to Jeruslam over 400 years before Mohammed was born. Why I am even arguing with you? I have forgotten that all the biblical prophets and Jews are now Muslims.

Empiree:
The same way Arabs maltreat black muslims is the same way White Jews maltreat Black Jews and Black Christians

The Arabs maltreated black people by following the way of the prophet. The last time I checked my cousin is married to a white lady in the US and I know of many black people married to white women. I have never seen any single Yoruba-muslim man married to an Arab lady because the Arabs consider it an insult, an embarrassment and a humiliation for their daughter to marry blacks. Who are the racist here? The Arabs or the whites? You can only see black people getting married to arab women by doing an extensive google search.

true2god:
I thought I have retired you from Nairaland 'Islam for Muslims' section; so you are still hanging by the thread. Your prophet is a racist and a slave trader as long as it is documented in your hadith and your seerah that he enslaved all the black people that came in contact with him.

Arabs are not stupid but black people are for following a man that enslaved their ancestors (Mohammed ibn Abdullah). If the Arabian prophet enslaved black people, how do you want the contemporary Arab-Muslims to regard you as a full human?

I am not bothered by your comment at all. I know this ranting of yours was borne out of irrational hatred for Prophet of Islam, Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (SAW). So, I pass your comment bcuz your case is kettle calling pot black.

I don't have to be a fool to be a christian. Going on a religious pilgrimage and wasting economic time and monetary resources is a crime against humanity. Black people should be ashamed of themselves for spending their meagre resources on religious pilgrimage to the Arab and the Jewish world. I am a christian but I use my commonsense. How can a sane country be spending 10-12% of their GDP on religious pilgrimage?

Common sense is not common. Are Black people the only race on these pilgrimages?. You are definitely losing your senses. I can only agree with you on "pilgrimage" to Jerusalem because there is no biblical injunction that made it part of your religious obligation. Therefore, blame your Black CHRISTIANs and leave Muslims out of this. Muslims have religious obligation to perform Hajj if they can afford it. Your Christian people who make pilgrimage to Jerusalem are only jealous of Islam and muslims because Nigerian govt funded Hajj. Now that's what I am against. I do not support govt funding religious pilgrimages. If individual saves his money and makes the journey is none of your business and that has nothing to do with GDP. There are millions of muslims in Western world who fund their trip on their own. It has no negative bearing on Western economy. I repeat, you are losing it and jealousy is eating up Christians so badly.

You must be ignorant. Haven't you read about the Ethiopian Eunuch who made a religious pilgrimage to Jerusalem, in the act of the apostles (written over 500 years before the quran), and was witnessed by and Baptised by Philip, one of the apostles of Jesus christ? The Christians do not make it a religious jamboree, like Muslims, while going to Jerusalem. The Christians, had been going on pilgrimage to Jeruslam over 400 years before Mohammed was born. Why I am even arguing with you? I have forgotten that all the biblical prophets and Jews are now Muslims.

"in the act of apostle". What has that go to do with Jesus?. Did Jesus write Acts of Apostle"?. Did he give you order to make pilgrimage as religious rite to Jerusalem?. Are you following Jesus or are you following Ethiopian Eunuch ?. Who's ignorant now?

The Arabs maltreated black people by following the way of the prophet. The last time I checked my cousin is married to a white lady in the US and I know of many black people married to white women. I have never seen any single Yoruba-muslim man married to an Arab lady because the Arabs consider it an insult, an embarrassment and a humiliation for their daughter to marry blacks. Who are the racist here? The Arabs or the whites? You can only see black people getting married to arab women by doing an extensive google search.

what you seen is what you know. There are Black who married Arabs. Percentage might just be very low. I am aware of Arab rascism. But don't mistake this for Islam which you are trying to do. It is not gonna help you.

Besides, this comparison of yours gets k-leg. Are you now defending White just to make a point?. Have you ever heard of different levels of rascism?. Just because many Black marry white doesn't mean there aren't White rascism. They have their rascism on other levels. What do you hear on tv about rascism the most, Arabs?. Many recent White supremacists terrorist attacks were carried out by White CHRISTIANs rascists against Blacks and Mexicans. You need a reality check

Empiree:
I am not bothered by your comment at all. I know this ranting of yours was borne out of irrational hatred for Prophet of Islam, Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (SAW). So, I pass your comment bcuz your case is kettle calling pot black.

You never deny the fact that your prophet enslaved all the blacks that came in contact with him. Can you repudiate this claim?

Empiree:
Common sense is not common. Are Black people the only race on these pilgrimages?. You are definitely losing your senses. I can only agree with you on "pilgrimage" to Jerusalem because there is no biblical injunction that made it part of your religious obligation. Therefore, blame your Black CHRISTIANs and leave Muslims out of this. Muslims have religious obligation to perform Hajj if they can afford it. Your Christian people who make pilgrimage to Jerusalem are only jealous of Islam and Muslims because Nigerian govt funded Hajj. Now that's what I am against. I do not support govt funding religious pilgrimages. If individual saves his money and makes the journey is none of your business and that has nothing to do with GDP. There are millions of muslims in Western world who fund their trip on their own. It has no negative bearing on Western economy. I repeat, you are losing it and jealousy is eating up Christians so badly.

We are talking about racism in the Islamic world against the black people which is over 1400 years. How long will you remain a 'BILAL', a house negro for the Arab masters? Over 95% of people that go for hajj are black Africans/Arabs/South east asians. What's their common denominator? Poverty, bad governmrent, oppression and ignorance. The whites that do hajj are less than 1%, who represents the poster boys for Islam in the western world. Nigeria spend over 160 billion naira (almost 500million dollars) going to Mecca and Jerusalem, is that not stupidity while your Arab slave masters laugh at your back for being gullible.

Empiree:
"in the act of apostle". What has that go to do with Jesus?. Did Jesus write Acts of Apostle"?. Did he give you order to make pilgrimage as religious rite to Jerusalem?. Are you following Jesus or are you following Ethiopian Eunuch ?. Who's ignorant now?

Act of the apostle is the record of the activities of the early church, just as you have your seerah which documented the life of your prophet. Did your prophet write the seerah and the hadith you guy always quote? The Jews and the christians had been performing pilgrimage long before mohammed was born.

Empiree:
what you seen is what you know. There are Black who married Arabs. Percentage might just be very low. I am aware of Arab rascism. But don't mistake this for Islam which you are trying to do. It is not gonna help you.

Guy chill, no any arab man can give out his daughter to you black man in marriage, except you are the governor of your state. The arabs would rather kill their daughter rather than allow her marry a blackman. This is racism embedded in arabic culture garnished by the sunnah of your prophet for the hatred of the black people who he saw and used as slaves. If you travel to either the US or Europe today, there is a 95% chance that you can marry a white lady but if you go to to the arab world, it is suicidal for a blackman to attempt to marry their women. Try it when next you travel to any arab nation and come and tell me the result.

Empiree:
Besides, this comparison of your gets k-leg. Are you now defending White just to make a point?. Have you ever heard of different levels of rascism?. Just because many Black marry white doesn't mean there aren't White rascism. They have their rascism on other levels. What do you hear on tv about rascism the most, Arabs?. Many recent White supremacists terrorist attacks were carried out by White CHRISTIANs rascists against Blacks and Mexicans. You need a reality check

Oh, racism has level according to you. While the arabs is 95%, the white is 5%. Can you mention any black millionaire in the arab world? It is not possible because the arab-muslim will never allow that. How many blacks do you have in the saudi royal family after 100 years of being in power? Zero.

Guy think! 'soji, maa sun!'.

true2god:
You never deny the fact that your prophet enslaved all the blacks that came in contact with him. Can you repudiate this claim?

Sounds like he (SAW) enslaved people, hun?


Volume 3, Book 46, Number 695 :Narrated by Asma' bint Abu Bakr

The Prophet ordered us to free slaves at the time of solar eclipses.




Volume 3, Book 46, Number 696 :Narrated by Asma' bint Abu Bakr

We were ordered to free slaves at the time of lunar eclipses.




Volume 3, Book 46, Number 697 :Narrated by Ibn 'Umar

The Prophet said, "Whoever manumits a slave owned by two masters, should manumit him completely (not partially) if he is rich after having its price evaluated."

As I said before it is irrelevant arguing with you on this. My question from 5yrs ago which is yet to be answered is, why didn't CHRISTIANITY abolish slavery before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?. Why waited until modern Western Civilization before you realized you needed to do the needful?.

We are talking about racism in the Islamic world against the black people which is over 1400 years. How long will you remain a 'BILAL', a house negro for the Arab masters? Over 95% of people that go for hajj are black

You are playing race card and it is not gonna work with me. You want to talk about rascism in Islamic world while ignoring rascism in Judeo/Christian world?. How hypocritical is that?. Again, Arabs being rascists has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is Quran and here is what Qur'an says



And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your languages and your colors. Indeed in that are signs for those of knowledge. [30:22]


“Oh men! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you might come to know one another. Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware” (Quran 49:13).


I didn't quote Qur'an for you but for our reading audience because I can quote from today till Jesus return it will not make sense to you.

Africans/Arabs/South east asians. What's their common denominator? Poverty, bad governmrent, oppression and ignorance. The whites that do hajj are less than 1%, who represents the poster boys for Islam in the western world. Nigeria spend over 160 billion naira (almost 500million dollars) going to Mecca and Jerusalem, is that not stupidity while your Arab slave masters laugh at your back for being gullible.

Again, your antics will not work. Majority that go to Hajj around the world spend their money.

That 1% of White attend Hajj is very insensible. It is not news that majority of White people aren't Muslim. So what's your point?.

Act of the apostle is the record of the activities of the early church, just as you have your seerah which documented the life of your prophet. Did your prophet write the seerah and the hadith you guy always quote? The Jews and the christians had been performing pilgrimage long before mohammed was born

@bold, you said early church. How's church relate to Jesus?. It is not news that Jesus had nothing to do with church and CHRISTIANITY. All these came much after him. So where did apostles got their lies from?. Underlined is different. Prophet was aware of Hadith. He only ordered not to be recorded. But in your case Jesus knew nothing about you guys.

Guy chill, no any arab man can give out his daughter to you black man in marriage, except you are the governor of your state. The arabs would rather kill their daughter rather than allow her marry a blackman. This is racism embedded in arabic culture garnished by the sunnah of your prophet for the hatred of the black people who he saw and used as slaves. If you travel to either the US or Europe today, there is a 95% chance that you can marry a white lady but if you go to to the arab world, it is suicidal for a blackman to attempt to marry their women. Try it when next you travel to any arab nation and come and tell me the result.

trash.... Again, this is another failed attempt to lump Islam with Arab culture. If you have problems with Arabs, I'd advise you to direct your grievances to them. Whites have no specific culture that's why they belong to everyone. They take or adapt to any cultures. As you can see they are in Nigeria now embracing your forefathers religion while they gave you fake religion called CHRISTIANity

They gave you their shakushaku religion and adopted your culture and religion. Why are you still in CHRISTIANITY?. Ogbeni, Soji e

Oh, racism has level according to you. While the arabs is 95%, the white is 5%. Can you mention any black millionaire in the arab world? It is not possible because the arab-muslim will never allow that. How many blacks do you have in the saudi royal family after 100 years of being in power? Zero.

Guy think! 'soji, maa sun!'.

Your antics will never work. You are becoming anti-Semitic, no doubt. Arabs have their issues and I don't support that. But saying that their rascist culture is rooted in Islam is rather silly.

Why are you still in CHRISTIANITY worshipping religion of your White masters while your White masters are embracing your Yoruba culture and religion?. Guy think! 'soji, maa sun!'

Empiree:
Sounds like he (SAW) enslaved people, hun?

Volume 3, Book 46, Number 695 :Narrated by Asma' bint Abu Bakr

The Prophet ordered us to free slaves at the time of solar eclipses.

Volume 3, Book 46, Number 696 :Narrated by Asma' bint Abu Bakr

We were ordered to free slaves at the time of lunar eclipses.




Volume 3, Book 46, Number 697 :Narrated by Ibn 'Umar

The Prophet said, "Whoever manumits a slave owned by two masters, should manumit him completely (not partially) if he is rich after having its price evaluated."

As I said before it is irrelevant arguing with you on this. My question from 5yrs ago which is yet to be answered is, why didn't CHRISTIANITY abolish slavery before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?. Why waited until modern Western Civilization before you realized you needed to do the needful?.

Quoting isolated hadith does not do justice to the fact that your prophet bought and sold slaves. It does not also nullify the fact that all the black people who came in contact with him were all his slaves. If I have 100 slaves and I free 5 and buy another 10 this will not make me a hero; this is exactly what your prophet did. This is well documented in your hadith.

Empiree:
You are playing race card and it is not gonna work with me. You want to talk about rascism in Islamic world while ignoring rascism in Judeo/Christian world?. How hypocritical is that?. Again, Arabs being rascists has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is Quran and here is what Qur'an says



And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your languages and your colors. Indeed in that are signs for those of knowledge. [30:22]


“Oh men! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you might come to know one another. Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware” (Quran 49:13).


I didn't quote Qur'an for you but for our reading audience because I can quote from today till Jesus return it will not make sense to you.

The Arabs are the most racist race on earth and over 90% of them identify with Islam. Have you asked your yourselves the genesis and the reason(s) for high level of racism in the Arab world? You can't because it will condemn your religion and your prophet. An average Arab man has this pride of racial superiority which is rooted in their religious and cultural background. This is the very reason no arab-muslim man will give his daughter to any black muslim in marriage. NEVER! You can deny as much as you can and defend islam as much as you can but try fall in love with an arab lady and see their true colour. You try to exonerate islam from arab racism, you must be kidding me bro! Even your hadith (or seerah) attest to this:

Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. (Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69).

...when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'" (Ibn Timiyya, Vol. 31, pp. 376-377).

Ali Ibn Abi Talib, said: Verily the Prophet said: God divided the earth in two halves and placed (me) in the better of the two, then He divided the half in three parts, and I was in the best of them, then He chose the Arabs from among the people, then He chose the Quraysh from among the Arabs, then He chose the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib from among the Banu Hashim, then he chose me from among the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib, and from them he chose me.[2].(Ibn Sa'd, Vol. 1, p. 12)

Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." (Sahih Bukhari 9:89:329)

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin."(Sahih Bukhari 1:11:664).

If you read all these and tell me your prophet is not a racist, who the contemporary Arabs are emulating, then you need check yourself.

Empiree:
Again, your antics will not work. Majority that go to Hajj around the world spend their money.

That 1% of White attend Hajj is very insensible. It is not news that majority of White people aren't Muslim. So what's your point?.

My point is that most people that go for hajj are from poor countries from Africa, the Arab world and south-east Asia, and hundreds of thousands of them go for hajj via government subsidy while many are also sponsored. Why should a reasonable government subsidize the going out hajj? Why should a responsible government sponsor hundreds of thousands of their citizens to go on a religious pilgrimage? This is insanity bro! And FYA, around 2015 the Nigerian government has to lower the exchange rate for people going for hajj while the asked businessmen and manufacturer to seek for Forex at the black market, do you deny this fact or simply ignorant, and you do not understand how macro-economy works?

Empiree:
@bold, you said early church. How's church relate to Jesus?. It is not news that Jesus had nothing to do with church and CHRISTIANITY. All these came much after him. So where did apostles got their lies from?. Underlined is different. Prophet was aware of Hadith. He only ordered not to be recorded. But in your case Jesus knew nothing about you guys.

Sorry bro, using your logic, I can equally say mohammed has nothing to do with hajj because he never asked any Muslim, in the quran, to perform hajj. Nowhere, in the quran, did allah ask Muslims to perform hajj. According to the hadith, many which had been deemed fabricated and weak, hajj is a pre-Islamic pagan practice which has nothing to do will any of the original abrahamic faith. According to Omar Ibn kathab, there is nothing Muslims do during hajj that the pre-Islamic mecccan pagans did not do. Hajj is simply the modern-day pagan practice instituted by pagan Arabs.

Empiree:
trash.... Again, this is another failed attempt to lump Islam with Arab culture. If you have problems with Arabs, I'd advise you to direct your grievances to them. Whites have no specific culture that's why they belong to everyone. They take or adapt to any cultures. As you can see they are in Nigeria now embracing your forefathers religion while they gave you fake religion called CHRISTIANity

They gave you their shakushaku religion and adopted your culture and religion. Why are you still in CHRISTIANITY?. Ogbeni, Soji e

You cannot separate Islam from Arab culture the same way one cannot separate traditional Yoruba religion from Yoruba culture. You need to go back to school and learn sociology. Religion is part and parcel of people's culture which shapes their identity, thought and human behavior.

Empiree:
Your antics will never work. You are becoming anti-Semitic, no doubt. Arabs have their issues and I don't support that. But saying that their rascist culture is rooted in Islam is rather silly.

Why are you still in CHRISTIANITY worshipping religion of your White masters while your White masters are embracing your Yoruba culture and religion?. Guy think! 'soji, maa sun!'

I am saying the fact and it has nothing to do with being anti-semitic. Muslims often try separate Islam from the Arabs, especially when their (arabs) bad behaviors are pointed out, meanwhile most of what they do they get justification from the sunnah of the prophet. Is buying and selling of slaves no longer the sunnah of the prophet? You cant pick and choose what you want to call 'the sunnah'; take all or leave all.

More anti-black Islamic rants:

Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.(Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11)

Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.(Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21)

A man of B. al-'Ajilan told me that he was told that Gabriel came to the apostle and said, 'There comes to sit with you a black man with long flowing hair, ruddy cheeks, and inflamed eyes like two copper pots. His heart is more gross than a donkey's; he carries your words to the hypocrites, so beware of him.' This, so they say, was the description of Nabtal.[3](Ishaq:page 243

"I have heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal.' He was a sturdy black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks. He used to come and talk with the Prophet and listen to him. He would carry what he had said to the hypocrites. Nabtal said, 'Muhammad is all ears. If anyone tells him something he believes it.' Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet and say that he is all ears, say, 'Good ears for you.' For those who annoy the Apostle there is a painful punishment."[3](Ishaq:page 243)

It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.(Ishaq:page 450)

The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.’(Ishaq:page 374)

"Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet said: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don't care. "(Al-Tirmidhi Mishkat, Vol. 3, p. 117.)

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed.(Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375)

"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."(Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21)

"Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."(Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11)

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)."(Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161).

true2god:
Quoting isolated hadith does not do justice to the fact that your prophet bought and sold slaves. It does not also nullify the fact that all the black people who came in contact with him were all his slaves. If I have 100 slaves and I free 5 and buy another 10 this will not make me a hero; this is exactly what your prophet did. This is well documented in your hadith.

Like I knew it. You didn't disappoint but you can rely on isolated Hadith to prove your points too, right?. Keep deceiving yourself. Question remains. Why did Jews and Christians not abolish slave trade before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?

The Arabs are the most racist race on earth and over 90% of them identify with Islam. Have you asked your yourselves the genesis and the reason(s) for high level of racism in the Arab world? You can't because it will condemn your religion and your prophet. An average Arab man has this pride of racial superiority which is rooted in their religious and cultural background. This is the very reason no arab-muslim man will give his daughter to any black muslim in marriage. NEVER! You can deny as much as you can and defend islam as much as you can but try fall in love with an arab lady and see their true colour. You try to exonerate islam from arab racism, you must be kidding me bro! Even your hadith (or seerah) attest to this:

A single verse of Qur'an that I quoted earlier dissolves your claim for trying to link Islam and Arab rascism. I am not gonna get into who is more superior in rascism btw Arabs and Whites. One thing I know for sure is you can hardly see Arabs attack Blacks in mass shootings or racial attack in form of verbal or physical abuse on the street. But you can easily see this with White rascists everyday. So I told you before that there are levels of racism. You are obviously becoming anti-Semitic.

Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. (Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69).

And?. Do you not have worse phrases like these in your Bible?. What's your point?

...when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'" (Ibn Timiyya, Vol. 31, pp. 376-377).

And your point is?. Here in your quote he (saw) instructed freeing slave.

Ali Ibn Abi Talib, said: Verily the Prophet said: God divided the earth in two halves and placed (me) in the better of the two, then He divided the half in three parts, and I was in the best of them, then He chose the Arabs from among the people, then He chose the Quraysh from among the Arabs, then He chose the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib from among the Banu Hashim, then he chose me from among the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib, and from them he chose me.[2].(Ibn Sa'd, Vol. 1, p. 12)

Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." (Sahih Bukhari 9:89:329)

what's your point?. In Sura Al-Imran, Jews were chosen people before the Arabs. Family of Abraham(as) was chosen in the time. Family of Imran was chosen in their time. So what's your point?.

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin."(Sahih Bukhari 1:11:664).

If you read all these and tell me your prophet is not a racist, who the contemporary Arabs are emulating, then you need check yourself.

you sure have problem either comprehension or reading. Where is rascism here?. For saying "head like raisin". Guy, if this is what you call rascism, then, Nigeria needs to re-evaluate their educational system. Between, when was the last time you seen a Black man ruled England?. Because you are here castigating Arabs and Islam as if they owe you something?.

My point is that most people that go for hajj are from poor countries from Africa, the Arab world and south-east Asia, and hundreds of thousands of them go for hajj via government subsidy while many are also sponsored. Why should a reasonable government subsidize the going out hajj? Why should a responsible government sponsor hundreds of thousands of their citizens to go on a religious pilgrimage? This is insanity bro! And FYA, around 2015 the Nigerian government has to lower the exchange rate for people going for hajj while the asked businessmen and manufacturer to seek for Forex at the black market, do you deny this fact or simply ignorant, and you do not understand how macro-economy works?

since you chose to keep saying this, my question is, how is this your business if govt chose to sponsor Hajj?. Is it your bank account they break into?. I know your end game is about jealousy. Nothing more. You have lost all hopes so your next move is to tactically lure islam with Arab rascism etc. I am sure you are reading some materials somewhere that somehow brainwash you. It is about jealousy because CHRISTIANs can not produce such large gatherings. As for poor people being the most that travel for Hajj, ofcourse majority that will enter paradise are poor.


Hadith


The poor Muslims are admitted into Paradise before their rich by half a day.” (Tirmidhi, Zuhd, 37) Will you explain this hadith?



“The poor believers will enter Paradise forty years before the rich believers.” (see Majmauz-Zawaid, 8/105)


"The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich." (Tirmidhi, Zuhd 37)


These different narrations may indicate different groups of poor people; it is also possible that these numbers are not exact numbers but indicate a long time.

Everybody who goes to Paradise is rich. Everybody will attain their needs and desires there. However, it is a necessity of divine justice that the degrees and pleasures attained there will be parallel to the degree of worshipping and servitude in the world.

Sorry bro, using your logic, I can equally say mohammed has nothing to do with hajj because he never asked any Muslim, in the quran, to perform hajj. Nowhere, in the quran, did allah ask Muslims to perform hajj.

Bro, why is your life like this?. This is 21st century, age of INFORMATION.....and you said this knowing too well you are lying?.


[Quran 22:27] "And proclaim that the people shall observe Hajj pilgrimage. They will come to you walking or riding on various exhausted (means of transportation). They will come from the farthest locations."

According to the hadith, many which had been deemed fabricated and weak, hajj is a pre-Islamic pagan practice which has nothing to do will any of the original abrahamic faith. According to Omar Ibn kathab, there is nothing Muslims do during hajj that the pre-Islamic mecccan pagans did not do. Hajj is simply the modern-day pagan practice instituted by pagan Arabs.

it is pointless arguing with you on this since you ignorantly claimed there is no Hajj in the Qur'an. Therefore, you have no authority to say anything about Hadith.

You cannot separate Islam from Arab culture the same way one cannot separate traditional Yoruba religion from Yoruba culture. You need to go back to school and learn sociology. Religion is part and parcel of people's culture which shapes their identity, thought and human behavior.

Culture in Islam is separate from Arab culture. Arab cultures vary but bcuz most of them are muslims is the reason you can't seem to tell the difference. Who cares about Yoruba religion. Even in Yorubaland, their culture stands out from their religion. It is the people that lumped everything.

For instance we have cultural dances. Muslims, CHRISTIANs, aborisha can all do these dances. Culture is also atttires we wear. But religion is their orisha, egungun, agemo, Oro etc. Whoever fails to see the differences which is what it is in most cases needs serious education. This is why you hear some people say "esin(Islam, Christianity etc does not prevent us from órò ìdílé (yórùbá religion)"

They want to confuse people to think "Oro ìdílé" is culture which you ignorantly fell for. Oro ìdílé is Yoruba religion not culture. You need educational beatdown for failing sociology.

I am saying the fact and it has nothing to do with being anti-semitic. Muslims often try separate Islam from the Arabs, especially when their (arabs) bad behaviors are pointed out, meanwhile most of what they do they get justification from the sunnah of the prophet. Is buying and selling of slaves no longer the sunnah of the prophet? You cant pick and choose what you want to call 'the sunnah'; take all or leave all.

You are anti-Semite. And since you keep saying this, how about you give answer to this age long question asked you guys 5yrs ago and I have asked again 2x in this thread?.


Why did Jews and Christians not abolish slave trade before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?



By not answering this question shows that you have something to hide. And if it can not be answered then you have no right to say anything about Prophet Muhammad and slavery. You had over 600yrs to abolish this practice before Prophet muhammad came. Run along

Empiree:
Like I knew it. You didn't disappoint but you can rely on isolated Hadith to prove your points too, right?. Keep deceiving yourself. Question remains. Why did Jews and Christians not abolish slave trade before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?

Mohammed's enslavement of black people is well documented in the hadith and the seerah and were never recorded in isolation. This is a fact you can never disprove or deny and this also form the basis for the current Afro-Arab relation as we have it today. Blacks, as a result of the actions of mohammed, are still regarded as 'Abd' in all the arab world. It is more honourable to be a black in Europe, the US and even China than to be a black in the arab world. Their hatred for the blacks is a social issue caused by their religion and their prophet and it is unfortunate that you, a blackman, will be here defending your oppressors because of the fact that you were brainweashed into their religion.

Empiree:
A single verse of Qur'an that I quoted earlier dissolves your claim for trying to link Islam and Arab rascism. I am not gonna get into who is more superior in rascism btw Arabs and Whites. One thing I know for sure is you can hardly see Arabs attack Blacks in mass shootings or racial attack in form of verbal or physical abuse on the street. But you can easily see this with White rascists everyday. So I told you before that there are levels of racism. You are obviously becoming anti-Semitic.

You say a single verse absorbed muslims/arabs of racism while we have hundreds of hadith and seerah that promote Arab superiority and black debasement. You ignored your hundreds of hadith and choose a single ayah revealed when your prophet was weak and conciliatory. Current social realities and your hadith proved you wrond and solidify the fact that the arabs are inherently racist as a result of Islam. Can you approach a young arab girl in an islamic world for marriage? Answer a simple 'YES' or 'NO'.

Empiree:
And?. Do you not have worse phrases like these in your Bible?. What's your point?

Do you condemn or condone this islamic racist rant or want to lump Christianity into this mess:

Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. (Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69).

Empiree:
And your point is?. Here in your quote he (saw) instructed freeing slave.

Mohammed did not free this slave out of sincerity. He allowed the slave maid to go because she is an arab, an ishmaelite:

...when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'" (Ibn Timiyya, Vol. 31, pp. 376-377).

Empiree:
what's your point?. In Sura Al-Imran, Jews were chosen people before the Arabs. Family of Abraham(as) was chosen in the time. Family of Imran was chosen in their time. So what's your point?.

You are gradually coming to your senses; the only flaw here is that you want to create a moral equivalence by bringing the Jews into arab racism which is a typical Islamic argument. When muslims are accused of bad behaviors, like children, point hands on others for equally bad behavior; never take responsibility.

Empiree:
you sure have problem either comprehension or reading. Where is rascism here?. For saying "head like raisin". Guy, if this is what you call rascism, then, Nigeria needs to re-evaluate their educational system. Between, when was the last time you seen a Black man ruled England?. Because you are here castigating Arabs and Islam as if they owe you something?.

You have problems with logic and comprehension. If you use a derogatory term to describe people of other race it is called racism. As simple as that. If I say 'obey your master even if his skin is as white as pig' (in reference to white people) this is racism. I understand that it is a taboo, in islam, to admit that your prophet is wrong and this is one of the reason the arab world is in the current socio-political mess they are today.

Empiree:
since you chose to keep saying this, my question is, how is this your business if govt chose to sponsor Hajj?. Is it your bank account they break into?. I know your end game is about jealousy. Nothing more. You have lost all hopes so your next move is to tactically lure islam with Arab rascism etc. I am sure you are reading some materials somewhere that somehow brainwash you. It is about jealousy because CHRISTIANs can not produce such large gatherings. As for poor people being the most that travel for Hajj, ofcourse majority that will enter paradise are poor.
Hadith

The poor Muslims are admitted into Paradise before their rich by half a day.” (Tirmidhi, Zuhd, 37) Will you explain this hadith?

“The poor believers will enter Paradise forty years before the rich believers.” (see Majmauz-Zawaid, 8/105)

"The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich." (Tirmidhi, Zuhd 37)

These different narrations may indicate different groups of poor people; it is also possible that these numbers are not exact numbers but indicate a long time.

Everybody who goes to Paradise is rich. Everybody will attain their needs and desires there. However, it is a necessity of divine justice that the degrees and pleasures attained there will be parallel to the degree of worshipping and servitude in the world.

It is my business to campaign against waste of resources to enrich the saudis and the Jews in the name of religious tourism or hajj. No sane nation waste 500 million dollars to impress the arabs and the Jews who still regard the black people as sub-human. Cut the crap with the BS hadith you just posted to console the poor. The saudi royal families have also read it and understood that it is all BS.

Empiree:
Bro, why is your life like this?. This is 21st century, age is INFORMATION.....and you said this knowing too well you are lying?.

[Quran 22:27] "And proclaim that the people shall observe Hajj pilgrimage. They will come to you walking or riding on various exhausted (means of transportation). They will come from the farthest locations."

Empiree:
it is pointless arguing with you on this since you ignorantly claimed there is no Hajj in the Qur'an. Therefore, you have no authority to say anything about Hadith.

Oh you have caught a thief and can now shout 'takbir!', 'allahu akbir!', 'takbir!', 'allahu akbir!'. Can you see how low your thinking is? Even if hajj is found in the quran, a pre-islamic pagan rites, it doesnt repudiate that fact that any people going there only go to waste their time and money without gaining anything in return.

Empiree:
Culture in Islam is separate from Arab culture. Arab cultures vary but bcuz most of them are muslims is the reason you can't seem to tell the difference. Who cares about Yoruba religion. Even in Yorubaland, their culture stands out from their religion. It is the people that lumped everything.

For instance we have cultural dances. Muslims, CHRISTIANs, aborisha can all do these dances. Culture is also atttires we wear. But religion is their orisha, egungun, agemo, Oro etc. Whoever fails to see the differences which is what it is in most cases needs serious education. This is why you hear some people say "esin(Islam, Christianity etc does not prevent us from órò ìdílé (yórùbá religion)"

They want to confuse people to think "Oro ìdílé" is culture which you ignorantly fell for. Oro ìdílé is Yoruba religion not culture. You need educational beatdown for failing sociology.

Over 90% of islamic laws are old arabian laws and practices incorporated into islam. Islam is only a unifying factor for warring arabs tribe who are now bound, in unity, by islam. You cannot separate islamic culture from arab culture; they are interwoven. The arabs, prior islam, were slave traders. Mohammed only continue with this culture. The arabs, before islam, perfom hajj, mohammed only continue this tradition. The arabs sabians, before islam, were praying 5 times a day, mohammed only continue with this tradition. They are all the same; mohammed didnt bring anything new to the table except genocide against people with divergent views (quran 9:28-31).

Empiree:
You are anti-Semite. And since you keep saying this, how about you give answer to this age long question asked you guys 5yrs ago and I have asked again 2x in this thread?.

Why did Jews and Christians not abolish slave trade before advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw)?

By not answering this question shows that you have something to hide. And if it can not be answered then you have no right to say anything about Prophet Muhammad and slavery. You had over 600yrs to abolish this practice before Prophet muhammad came. Run along

You are boring me by calling me an anti-semite, it is like these word is new to you. The Christians and the Jews did not abolish slavery so this gives Mohammed the legitimacy for slave trading. I hope I have answered your question.

true2god:
The Christians and the Jews did not abolish slavery .

This is all I needed. The rest of your ranting is baseless. Now that you have admittedly posted the fact that Jews and CHRISTIANS started trading slaves and they did not abolish it for hundreds of years, we can now begin the process of getting your senses to order, slowly.

First, since you have admitted this fact, you have absolutely no right to speak on Islam and muslims because it was phenomenal you created and you are putting the blame on the one who came much after you?. Your logic is flawed.

So let's begin with Jews first, then to CHRISTIANITY how they started slavery and left the damn thing hanging for Prophet Muhammad (saw) to deal with. For the fact that you have been brainwashed to overlook Jews and Christians inequities on slavery doesn't exonerate you

Empiree:
This is all I needed. The rest of your ranting is baseless. Now that you have admittedly posted the fact that Jews and CHRISTIANS started trading slaves and they did not abolish it for hundreds of years, we can now begin the process of getting your senses to order, slowly.

First, since you have admitted this fact, you have absolutely no right to speak on Islam and muslims because it was phenomenal you created and you are putting the blame on the one who came much after you?. Your logic is flawed.

So let's begin with Jews first, then to CHRISTIANITY how they started slavery and left the damn thing hanging for Prophet Muhammad (saw) to deal with. For the fact that you have been brainwashed to overlook Jews and Christians inequities on slavery doesn't exonerate you

The was my response below:

The Christians and the Jews did not abolish slavery so this gives Mohammed the legitimacy for slave trading. I hope I have answered your question.

And this is your misquote and twisting (as a typical Muslim):

Now that you have admittedly posted the fact that Jews and CHRISTIANS started trading slaves and they did not abolish it for hundreds of years

You can see how Islamically dishonest you are by claiming that I said the Jews and the christians started trading slaves. I think you need to go and do ablution for allah to wash your lying tongue; wash your tongue 7times and recite alfathiha 17times so that allha may forgive you for this blasphemy.

The Quran asserts that Muhammad was a man who possessed the highest moral excellence, and that alla made him a good example or a "goodly model" for Muslims to follow (Quran 68:4, and 33:21) and being a perfect example to follow his sahabas (all of them arabs) also bought and sold slaves (many of which are blacks). You need to start buying your own slaves now. There is currently as arabian slave market in Libya where the arabs are buying and selling black slaves.

Can you show me a single christian source document where slave trading is sanctioned? I can show you hundreds or ayah, hadith and seerah where you prophet own, bought and sold slaves like cattle. As a matter of fact suunah ibn majjah, in a heading relating to the transdactions and selling of animals, reported that mohammed bought safiyya from one of his sahabas called Dihyah Kalbi after the invasion of khaiber.

It was narrated from Anas that :

The Prophet (ﷺ) bought Safiyyah for seven slaves. (Sahih) (One of the narrators) 'Abdur-Rahman said: "From Dihyah Kalbi.'
sunnah ibn majjah Vol. 3, Book 12, Hadith 2272/

See sahih Bukhari on how mohammed and his bandits captures safiyya:

Narrated Abdul Aziz:
Anas said, "When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there (early in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet. He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.’ He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, ‘Muhammad (has come).’ (Some of our companions added, ‘With his army.’) We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, ‘Go and take any slave girl.’ He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah's Apostle! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.’ So the Prophet said, ‘Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’" Anas added: "The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet. So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, ‘Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.’ He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-Sawaq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

You should be ashamed for following this bandit that called himself profit mohammed.

I didn't quote you verbatim. I simply paraphrased your intention to which you agreed that slavery existed before Prophet muhammad. My point is, for the fact that it was not abolish till Prophet muhammad came it means Jews and CHRISTIANs did not abolish slavery.

You are being skillful by asking for evidence from your sources. We discussed this with you and ifean some 5 yrs ago that why did slavery disappear from New Testament when it is clearly written is Old Testament and then skipped and reappeared in the time of muhammad?. This is hanky panky.


If slavery existed during Jewish reign and during Jesus time why didn't historians pen slave trades in New Testament?. Why did Paul, Peter, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John make references to it when it was obvious they lived during slave era?. It means it wasn't in their best interest.


You can quote Islamic sources all you want. At least there are sincerity that Prophet muhammad (saw) arrived to see slave trade. He didn't start it. He had to deal with what you started. You can not pull this off.


You need to give us reason why Bible writers, especially New Testament overwhelmingly skipped slave stories?. This is what I asked you guy 5 yrs ago but you all ignored. So don't ask me to prove slavery from your Christian sources because one of the menaces attributed to Bible is slavery. You can not undo this history

true2god:
The was my response below:

The Christians and the Jews did not abolish slavery so this gives Mohammed the legitimacy for slave trading. I hope I have answered your question.

And this is your misquote and twisting (as a typical Muslim):

Now that you have admittedly posted the fact that Jews and CHRISTIANS started trading slaves and they did not abolish it for hundreds of years

You can see how Islamically dishonest you are by claiming that I said the Jews and the christians started trading slaves. I think you need to go and do ablution for allah to wash your lying tongue; wash your tongue 7times and recite alfathiha 17times so that allha may forgive you for this blasphemy.

The Quran asserts that Muhammad was a man who possessed the highest moral excellence, and that alla made him a good example or a "goodly model" for Muslims to follow (Quran 68:4, and 33:21) and being a perfect example to follow his sahabas (all of them arabs) also bought and sold slaves (many of which are blacks). You need to start buying your own slaves now. There is currently as arabian slave market in Libya where the arabs are buying and selling black slaves.

Can you show me a single christian source document where slave trading is sanctioned? I can show you hundreds or ayah, hadith and seerah where you prophet own, bought and sold slaves like cattle. As a matter of fact suunah ibn majjah, in a heading relating to the transdactions and selling of animals, reported that mohammed bought safiyya from one of his sahabas called Dihyah Kalbi after the invasion of khaiber.

It was narrated from Anas that :

The Prophet (ﷺ) bought Safiyyah for seven slaves. (Sahih) (One of the narrators) 'Abdur-Rahman said: "From Dihyah Kalbi.'
sunnah ibn majjah Vol. 3, Book 12, Hadith 2272/

See sahih Bukhari on how mohammed and his bandits captures safiyya:

Narrated Abdul Aziz:
Anas said, "When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there (early in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet. He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.’ He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, ‘Muhammad (has come).’ (Some of our companions added, ‘With his army.’) We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, ‘Go and take any slave girl.’ He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah's Apostle! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.’ So the Prophet said, ‘Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’" Anas added: "The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet. So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, ‘Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.’ He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-Sawaq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367).

You should be ashamed for following this bandit that called himself profit mohammed.

Empiree:
I didn't quote you verbatim. I simply paraphrased your intention to which you agreed that slavery existed before Prophet muhammad. My point is, for the fact that it was not abolish till Prophet muhammad came it means Jews and CHRISTIANs did not abolish slavery.

You 'paraphrased' what I said to give it a completely different meaning and that is dishonesty.

Empiree:
You are being skillful by asking for evidence from your sources. We discussed this with you and ifean some 5 yrs ago that why did slavery disappear from New Testament when it is clearly written is Old Testament and then skipped and reappeared in the time of muhammad?. This is hanky panky.

How is making a simple request being 'skillful'? You will behonest by simply saying 'slavery is never recognized in the new testament scripture'. The romans empire, under the occupoation of Jerusalem in the 50BC to 45AD did not place emphasy of slavery but on colonoization hence it can be said to also have influence on the early muslim community. The europeans went into wholesale and massive slavery when there was a doubt on the human status of black people among the whites and the arabs. Many arabs and europeans doubted if black people were fully human hence did not have moral suation to stop the over 200 years of trans-atlantic slave trade. The european enslavement of black were borne out of economic exploitation of black people while the arab sub-sahara slave trade was born out of religious conviction.

Empiree:
If slavery existed during Jewish reign and during Jesus time why didn't historians pen slave trades in New Testament?. Why did Paul, Peter, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John make references to it when it was obvious they lived during slave era?. It means it wasn't in their best interest.

You cannot make a claim that you are sure of. Let me, for the benefit of the doubt, accept that there was slavery during jesus' era. Unlike mohammed, Jesus never asked his disciples to be attacking 'the infidels' and taking them captives (quran 4:24, quran 8:1).

Empiree:
You can quote Islamic sources all you want. At least there are sincerity that Prophet muhammad (saw) arrived to see slave trade. He didn't start it. He had to deal with what you started. You can not pull this off.

Of course you cant deny that your prophet was a slave merchant; you only want to cement his action by pulling the Jews and the christian into the same evil/error.

Empiree:
You need to give us reason why Bible writers, especially New Testament overwhelmingly skipped slave stories?. This is what I asked you guy 5 yrs ago but you all ignored. So don't ask me to prove slavery from your Christian sources because one of the menaces attributed to Bible is slavery. You can not undo this history

I have no authoirty to do that because since christ never took or own slaves, or any of his sahabas (real men/disciples), it is fair to say that the sunnah of Jesus didnt support or encourage slavery.

true2god:
You 'paraphrased' what I said to give it a completely different meaning and that is dishonesty.

you are still being dishonest. Just admit the fact. I helped you elaborated your intention. Did Jews and Christians abolish slavery or not?.

How is making a simple request being 'skillful'? You will behonest by simply saying 'slavery is never recognized in the new testament scripture'. The romans empire, under the occupoation of Jerusalem in the 50BC to 45AD did not place emphasy of slavery but on colonoization hence it can be said to also have influence on the early muslim community. The europeans went into wholesale and massive slavery when there was a doubt on the human status of black people among the whites and the arabs. Many arabs and europeans doubted if black people were fully human hence did not have moral suation to stop the over 200 years of trans-atlantic slave trade. The european enslavement of black were borne out of economic exploitation of black people while the arab sub-sahara slave trade was born out of religious conviction.

Oh please, don't turn this to race sh!t. This is part of your skill and the same skill used by White slave masters to shield Christianity. They used the word "colonization" which is euphemism for slave trade. They use "European/Roman Empire" which is euphemism for Christians/Christianity. Don't play smart with me. This is why they become secularized so that blame is not placed on their religion. But thank God from your write-up you admitted the so called Roman Empire (Christian Empire) involved in slave trade. If slavery existed in the period of Jews why didn't historians make Jesus reference to it?. Are they saying slavery didn't exist in his time?. Bro, wake up. They sidelined Jesus from the history of slave trade. It is glaring.

You cannot make a claim that you are sure of. Let me, for the benefit of the doubt, accept that there was slavery during jesus' era. Unlike mohammed, Jesus never asked his disciples to be attacking 'the infidels' and taking them captives (quran 4:24, quran 8:1).

redherring

Of course you cant deny that your prophet was a slave merchant; you only want to cement his action by pulling the Jews and the christian into the same evil/error.

they started it or not?. You can't jump from A and then blame Z for stupidity A created. Why didn't Jews and Christians abolish slavery before Muhammad (saw) came?. That's the question




[quoteI have no authoirty to do that because since christ never took or own slaves, or any of his sahabas (real men/disciples), it is fair to say that the sunnah of Jesus didnt support or encourage slavery.[/quote] then you need to question historical errors of New Testament for skipping slave trade activities. There was hanky panky you failed to address.

Empiree:
you are still being dishonest. Just admit the fact. I helped you elaborated your intention. Did Jews and Christians abolish slavery or not?.

Nothing bad elaborating my point but don't misquote me to misrepresent my points. What you did is written in black and white and you need to admit your error and apologize for misquoting me to drive home your false argument.

Empiree:
Oh please, don't turn this to race sh!t. This is part of your skill and the same skill used by White slave masters to shield Christianity. They used the word "colonization" which is euphemism for slave trade. They use "European/Roman Empire" which is euphemism for Christians/Christianity. Don't play smart with me. This is why they become secularized so that blame is not placed on their religion. But thank God from your write-up you admitted the so called Roman Empire (Christian Empire) involved in slave trade. If slavery existed in the period of Jews why didn't historians make Jesus reference to it?. Are they saying slavery didn't exist in his time?. Bro, wake up. They sidelined Jesus from the history of slave trade. It is glaring.

Black Africans are not the only race colonized but they are the only race enslaved by the whites and the arabs in wholesale. In the latter period of the 15th and the 16th century the western powers colonized blacks, arabs and asians but the only race enslaved are the black race. So your argument of lumping and equating slave trade with colonization does not make sense. I dont know if you have eye or comprehension problem, this is what I wrote earlier:

The romans empire, under the occupoation of Jerusalem in the 50BC to 45AD did not place emphasis of slavery but on colonization.

Empiree:
redherring

This is shirk! How can you say the statment below is redherring:

You cannot make a claim that you are not sure of. Let me, for the benefit of the doubt, accept that there was slavery during Jesus' era. Unlike mohammed, Jesus never asked his disciples to be attacking 'the infidels' and taking them captives (quran 4:24, quran 8:1).

Empiree:
they started it or not?. You can't jump from A and then blame Z for stupidity A created. Why didn't Jews and Christians abolish slavery before Muhammad (saw) came?. That's the question

Go and read secular history. Slavery was never started by the Jews and the Jews were not declaring jihad against the infidels in order to capture men as slaves and women as sex slaves (quran 8:1, quran 4:24). These are what Mohammed and his bandits (sahabas) did. There is no any record that Jesus or his sahabas took slaves or raided 'khaiber' to capture people and take war booty, the way Mohammed and his fellow bandits did. The wnites christians and the arab muslims (including mohammed) are evil for taking slaves and exploiting them.

true2god:
Nothing bad elaborating my point but don't misquote me to misrepresent my points. What you did is written in black and white and you need to admit your error and apologize for misquoting me to drive home your false argument.

did i quote you?. Absolutely not. I simply highlighted your point. Here, watch muslims who agree with you that we should not go to Mecca in Saudi Arabia anymore

https://www.facebook.com/mediamovementforislamiclecturesandevents/videos/521190641949894/?epa=SEARCH_BOX

Black Africans are not the only race colonized but they are the only race enslaved by the whites and the arabs in wholesale. In the latter period of the 15th and the 16th century the western powers colonized blacks, arabs and asians but the only race enslaved are the black race. So your argument of lumping and equating slave trade with colonization does not make sense. I dont know if you have eye or comprehension problem, this is what I wrote earlier:

I will not allow you to shield christianity from slave trade. You can say anything you want. Did White who enslaved the world not believe in Bible?. Did they not believe in Jesus?. Roman existed in the time of Jesus which means slavery was alive and well. Why are you being deceptive?. When you started talking about Arab slavery you made sure you lumped islam into it. Why dont you do the same with your religion?

This is shirk! How can you say the statment below is redherring:

You cannot make a claim that you are not sure of. Let me, for the benefit of the doubt, accept that there was slavery during Jesus' era. Unlike mohammed, Jesus never asked his disciples to be attacking 'the infidels' and taking them captives (quran 4:24, quran 8:1).

I repeat, this is red herring. You dont even know what shirk is.

Go and read secular history. Slavery was never started by the Jews and the Jews were not declaring jihad against the infidels in order to capture men as slaves and women as sex slaves (quran 8:1, quran 4:24). These are what Mohammed and his bandits (sahabas) did. There is no any record that Jesus or his sahabas took slaves or raided 'khaiber' to capture people and take war booty, the way Mohammed and his fellow bandits did. The wnites christians and the arab muslims (including mohammed) are evil for taking slaves and exploiting them.

See bolded, you just messed up. Again, questions are, did slavery exist before prophet muhammad or not? Did Jews and christians exist before nabi muhammad or not?