Empiree:
did i quote you?. Absolutely not. I simply highlighted your point. Here, watch muslims who agree with you that we should not go to Mecca in Saudi Arabia anymore

https://www.facebook.com/mediamovementforislamiclecturesandevents/videos/521190641949894/?epa=SEARCH_BOX




I will not allow you to shield christianity from slave trade. You can say anything you want. Did White who enslaved the world not believe in Bible?. Did they not believe in Jesus?. Roman existed in the time of Jesus which means slavery was alive and well. Why are you being deceptive?. When you started talking about Arab slavery you made sure you lumped islam into it. Why dont you do the same with your religion?

Yes, Islam thrives under the atmosphere of ignorance and poverty. For an enlightened mind, Islam is a failure upon arrival. I don't have time posting prominent church pastors with Islamic background as this will amount to propaganda. The white and the Arabs enslaved the blacks but the Arabs used Islam and the sunnah as a justification for the 'slave-trading' of blacks.

Empiree:
I repeat, this is red herring. You dont even know what shirk is.

You are correct, the quran is all about red-herring.

Empiree:
See bolded, you just messed up. Again, questions are, did slavery exist before prophet muhammad or not? Did Jews and christians exist before nabi muhammad or not?

Yes, the Jews and the christrinas existed before islam but the Christians and the Jews, unlike the quran/mohammed/allah, did not go about raiding the infidels and turning them to sex slaves and slaves as commanded in the quran (quran 4:24, sunnah abu dawood 2150 , quran 8:1).

Even your fellow Muslim acknowledged the Arab-Muslim atrocities against the black people for hundreds of years.

true2god:
Yes, Islam thrives under the atmosphere of ignorance and poverty. For an enlightened mind, Islam is a failure upon arrival. I don't have time posting prominent church pastors with Islamic background as this will amount to propaganda. The white and the Arabs enslaved the blacks but the Arabs used Islam and the sunnah as a justification for the 'slave-trading' of blacks.

I know that anytime you speak like this (@bolded), you are pained after watching that clip

@underlined, what did White people used?. Check the screenshot. You can see general George Curzon's statements show the same hatred they had then is what you have now. That's the genesis of the current predicament for Muslims. Guess what?. He's burning in hell right now

Yes, the Jews and the christrinas existed before islam but the Christians and the Jews, unlike the quran/mohammed/allah, did not go about raiding the infidels and turning them to sex slaves and slaves as commanded in the quran

You had the guts to post this knowing that you have horror stories of slavery in Old Testament?. Be ashamed of yourself for a second

true2god:


The Arabs maltreated black people by following the way of the prophet. The last time I checked my cousin is married to a white lady in the US and I know of many black people married to white women. I have never seen any single Yoruba-muslim man married to an Arab lady because the Arabs consider it an insult, an embarrassment and a humiliation for their daughter to marry blacks. Who are the racist here? The Arabs or the whites? You can only see black people getting married to arab women by doing an extensive google search.

I agree with everything you've said so far except this. We need to redefine racism. Racism is NOT necessarily preferring your own race or ethnicity over another. Racism is putting down another race in favor of your own race.

Now, how do you know @underlined is true for all Arabs opposed to interracial marriage? If an Arab man doesn't want you to marry his daughter, it may be because he want his grandchildren to look more like him, not because he sees it insulting, embarrassing or humiliating.

See, the drawbacks in interracial marriages are seldom considered. But they exist. Look at Europe and America today, the proportion of whites continue to fall. It is not simply because of low birth rate or immigration, the rise in interracial marriage is also a factor. People already speak of White Genocide now.

As humans we're naturally wired to populate our domain with our kinds. When there exist a factor that hinder the longevity of our race, it is only normal to be non-violently opposed to it at least.

So as a black man, why do you even care? Arabs are racist, but on this interracial marriage subject, I'm fine with them. From my experience, men of every race want their women to procreate with them, to ensure the survival of their race. It is mostly black men that see this as issue because, again from my experience, a lot of black men find black women less attractive than White, Arab, or Asian women.

NB: I do not imply interracial marriages should be banned. But people shouldn't be branded racist because they prefer individuals of their own race to marry within their race.

Empiree:
I know that anytime you speak like this (@bolded), you are pained after watching that clip

Pained? As in seriously? That an ignorant man embraced the religion of an Arab slave merchant? You better be serious.

Empiree:
@underlined, what did White people used?. Check the screenshot. You can see general George Curzon's statements show the same hatred they had then is what you have now. That's the genesis of the current predicament for Muslims. Guess what?. He's burning in hell right now

We don't know much about the past (except what your ha-death said about the black men) but we can say much about today and can project unto the future. As at today the arabs are still the most racist people on earth using the sunnah of the prophet. It is so serious that in one of the hadith it was narrated that anybody that call the prophet a black man should be killed.

Empiree:
You had the guts to post this knowing that you have horror stories of slavery in Old Testament?. Be ashamed of yourself for a second

Which horror story are you talking about that is as worse as your prophet beheaving about 900 Jews of Banu quraiza in a single afternoon.

Do you know the blacks are regarded as Kafri Meaning Unbeliever, Immigrants etc this should tell numbskulls that Islam is not for black people neither is Christianity.

Lonelypacifist6:
Do you know the blacks are regarded as Kafri Meaning Unbeliever, Immigrants etc this should tell numbskulls that Islam is not for black people neither is Christianity.

Being Arab is not hujjah for Islam

Empiree:
Being Arab is not hujjah for Islam

In many Arab countries a child born today is officially registered as a Muslim. Saudi Arabia has this as a state policy. The saudis doesn't accept conversion from Islam to another region, it is even a criminal offense to do that as a Saudi citizen. So it is very safe to say that the Arabs and Islam are like 5 & 6. It is their culture, their way of life.

The Arabs, till today, regard the Blacks as 'Abd' (meaning slaves) the same way the racist whites regard blacks as negroes or Nigga. While a Blackman can sue a whiteman for using a derogatory term (Negro), a black man can't sue any Arab man for calling him an 'Abd' because the prophet of Islam also identified the black people as :Abd'. No sharia court will entertain the case.

true2god:
In many Arab countries a child born today is officially registered as a Muslim. Saudi Arabia has this as a state policy. The saudis doesn't accept conversion from Islam to another region, it is even a criminal offense to do that as a Saudi citizen. So it is very safe to say that the Arabs and Islam are like 5 & 6. It is their culture, their way of life.

does this mean anything?. Nope. It is the same in the West. We automatically assume Whites and Blacks in western countries are christians whether they "registered" that or not.

The Arabs, till today, regard the Blacks as 'Abd' (meaning slaves) the same way the racist whites regard blacks as negroes or Nigga. While a Blackman can sue a whiteman for using a derogatory term (Negro), a black man can't sue any Arab man for calling him an 'Abd' because the prophet of Islam also identified the black people as :Abd'. No sharia court will entertain the case.

Your comparison is off. In Islam, anyone regardless of race or religion is "Abd" bcuz we are all human beings created to serve God. Whether we serve him the right way or not is a different story. So your idea of trying to pain Arabs racist in this sense makes no sense. Our prophet Muhammad(SAW) is called 'abd' in sura Isra verse 1



Exalted is He who took His slave by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al- Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.


Also, Khidr in surah Kahf is called "abd" along with other great beloved of God and prophets.



And they found a slave from among Our slaves to whom we had given mercy from us and had taught him from Us a [certain] knowledge.


Jesus in Sura 19:30 called "Abd" of Allah (slave of God)


He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,



In your Romans 6:22 , righteous people were called "slaves of God" abd


But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.


In James 1:1

James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes in the Dispersion: Greetings.



1 Corinthians 7:22 we read that people who are free are called "slaves of God"


And remember, if you were a slave when the Lord called you, you are now free in the Lord. And if you were free when the Lord called you, you are now a slave of Christ.