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Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by roymary: 11:11pm On Nov 03, 2010
bashy_demy:

@daylae are you daft i guess you dont know you right arm from left well if you wanna know more about the killing of the rams you need to go read more about the history of Abraham, but about the killing of chickens,goat by xtain for xmas where did that generate from pls tell me at least we could be able to trace ours to Abraham so how about yours?

@roymary if you dont know the source of any riot is better you close that your gutter Jos crisis was a tribal riot go and get your fact right its was a riot between the Hausa/Fulani and the Berom so if you are not silly no only listen to the silly medias are can you think and asking your are there no Muslims among the Berom? and again ask yourself are there xtain among the Hausa/Fulani but instead you come on here talking rubbish well this is not new to me since you only believe what the useless Nigeria media houses and since you cannot understand your Bible how on earth will you understand what is happening, and how you going to tell me the fight between Yoruba and House in mile 12 then was a religious crisis? are you going to tell me the riot between Yoruba and house in Bodija Ibadan then was also religious crisis since the xtains here are more than dem guy use your brain.




You are a potential suicide bomber!! A troublemaker; Everybody hates you. Tell that Jos media excuse stories to your naive siblings. Your rep is rotting big time in Guantanamo detention.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 11:47pm On Nov 03, 2010
bash phemmy: you are so confuse! Who is abraham? Do you know christ is from the linage of abraham? Do you also know that God promised abraham that out of his seed the whole world will be blessed? To comfirm this,trace the linage of abraham to jesus. And that's why jesus said,"even abraham rejoice to see my days."

You talked about abraham killing a ram. Do you think the ram he killed was just for him and his family to eat? Don't you know that he sacrificed it to God for the atonement of sin? Don't you know that such is been practice too by other jews in their temples?
But christ paid the altimate sacrifice,you need that no more; and that's why he said "it is finished," when he shed his blood. You don't even know what the practice is all about,you're refering me to the bible. Christians don't slaugther anything for sarcrifice during christmas as you claimed. The killing of meat is just for celebration,not for sheding the blood of an animal. One can just deside not to kill any meat for christmas,and eat something else. Bet for muslims,its a neccesity to shed the blood of a ram for the atonement of sins. Is just unfortunate you don't understand your sacrifice is to the devil.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by roymary: 5:42am On Nov 04, 2010
bashy_demy:


@roymary .guy use your brain.

It will be shellacking at the end of the day; when Jesus puts you and your type in your places. In the mean time, keep bombing and disgracing yourselves.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 7:54am On Nov 04, 2010
@roymary and daylae both of you are far from truth well you know the truth jut dont wanna accept defeat i make comments here and gave you guys proof of everything you have your bible and read and confirm everything but you come on here and twist it. Well is either your bible is a liar or or paul as we all know is a liar or you guys are running from truth instead you come on here talking rubbish of what is happening. Well since your bible says God blame himself for creating human why will God blame himself if your bible is not saying rubbish i no get time for una make una call una senior thieves pastors make dem come out to defend una fraud religion
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 11:35am On Nov 04, 2010
@Dayli

Your Ignorance only confounds You

@Bashydemy

The log in Roy and Dale eyes has gone to deep into their eyes for surgical truths to relieve them from it's deception.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 11:52am On Nov 04, 2010
lol @ two deluded followers of a dead jewish carpenter (daylae & roymary) vs two deluded slaves of an arabian peadophile (bashy & vedaxcool)

smh @ grown adults arguing all day over the internet on who's imaginary friend is stronger

Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 12:02pm On Nov 04, 2010
^^ lol you're so kiddin. Your own case differs.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 12:28pm On Nov 04, 2010
daylae:

^^ lol  you're so kiddin. Your own case differs.

no i'm not. when one person suffers from delusion it's called insanity; when many people together suffer from a delusion, it's called RELIGION


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Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 12:32pm On Nov 04, 2010
@Mudley313 dont mind us jare we are only try to clearify things for those idiot so they will understand much about there religion and also diffrent between religion crisis and tribal crisis but because it happen in north they use it to qualify religion saying muslims have started killing xtain but when it happen in west here they said Yoruba and Hausa are fighting, so they should not be bais chikena
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 1:34pm On Nov 04, 2010
Mudley313: was it dr frankinstein that gave you that analogy? Stop kiddin kiddo! There are no neutral grounds. You don't have to accept somethings before they affect your life!

@blasphemy: don't eat any sallah ram this year untill you ask your imam the reason the rams are killed. That's your assigment. I just hope he understands too.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 2:29pm On Nov 04, 2010
@DeLie: Do Us a favor and quote where Muslims Sacrifice Rams for forgiveness

Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 4:15pm On Nov 04, 2010
daylae:


@blasphemy: don't eat any sallah ram this year untill you ask your imam the reason the rams are killed. That's your assigment. I just hope he understands too.
Well i dont need to ask anybody cos i know its right for me and also if Gd bless a man he is right to killing ram for Ileya so i am killing myself and mind you i have already bought 2 in my house would you like to there pics? they are for my Dad and am buying mine next week another 2 so if want you can come over you are invited ok.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 6:45pm On Nov 04, 2010
^^^Your ignorance. I av passed that street before. At least you need to understand what you're into. Pitty!
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by mabell: 8:23pm On Nov 04, 2010
@poster,
Jesus died that the whole world would have life. Not just a normal life but life eternal
It's called ZOE, the God kind of life. If you read 1st John 4:9&10, you should understand better. My ebible is not opening
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 9:34pm On Nov 04, 2010
mabell:

@poster,
Jesus died that the whole world would have life. Not just a normal life but life eternal
It's called ZOE, the God kind of life. If you read 1st John 4:9&10, you should understand better. My ebible is not opening
did i hear you say Eternal life? if yes then why are Xtains dying you should have been living till eternity
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by roymary: 9:44pm On Nov 04, 2010
bashy_demy:

did i hear you say Eternal life? if yes then why are Xtains dying you should have been living till eternity


Its obvious you know nothing about Christianity as well as the Holy Bible. May i ask how old you are? Bet you are one upcoming- coming- too- quick Muslim; but who knows; you might be an old gizzard with lil or no wisdom. Oh i forgot, Bigotry is a common trait in Islam.

Everybody hates you. Keeping bombing in the name of acquiring 70 Virgins in your own virtual heaven.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 11:41pm On Nov 04, 2010
you know why i like you? you are good in changing topics tell me who and give me proof of bombing if it wasn't related to War from some part of the world pls dont say Israel and Palestine remember God had cast Israel that they will fight war till eternity.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 11:02am On Nov 05, 2010
mabell:

@poster,
Jesus died that the whole world would have life. Not just a normal life but life eternal
It's called ZOE, the God kind of life. If you read 1st John 4:9&10, you should understand better. My ebible is not opening

It was Fisrt degree Murder not "Dieing"
roymary:


Its obvious you know nothing about Christianity as well as the Holy Bible. May i ask how old you are? Bet you are one upcoming- coming- too- quick Muslim; but who knows; you might be an old gizzard with lil or no wisdom. Oh i forgot, Bigotry is a common trait in Islam.

Everybody hates you. Keeping bombing in the name of acquiring 70 Virgins in your own virtual heaven.


Have you heard of the Crusades? Or the Lords Resistance Army? or the Christian Liberation Front of Tipura? or KKK or etc This are the bigotry associated with Christianity,Murderers and Thieves who maim and kill for Christ, Least I forget, Ignorance is the Hall mark of your faith, as your Pastor is pinching your tithe bucket and buying Hummers yet Poor man with bad mouth is in NL Convulsing beacuse the truth ha been told to him, The Bible is internationally acknowledgedly as being filled with ethnic Lies and dumb speak only a few part of it contains something sensible, go and asked your white masters who despite you being a Christian still see you as a mere Joke and a natural anomaly, No! have you notice the fanatical hatred they show Obama? Despite the fact he is a Christian? Maybe because they think they are living under grace that is why they have the right to behave the way they do? Do you know we read in the bible Jesus calling non - Dogs " do not take the bread of children and cast it to dogs" the question is are you a dog eating the crumbs that fall from the table? so many questions but let me leave you with this
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 11:46am On Nov 05, 2010
Vodoo_cool: you're such a miserable joke. I guess your mental proccessor absorb informations via a reverse option? Did i hear you say lord resistant army? You're so dumb to understand they are "war lords?" what's all these got to do with liberation fighters. Do you think we lack decent informations like you do? U know am begining to think you're suffering from humptington syndrome.

I tell you, your imams do solely rely on bible references to validate their preaching from the quran before it can make meanings. Most of the time you see them with a bible to support the genuinty of their preachings. Most of the things you see inside the quran were copied from the bible,of cause,added with some major perversions. Your chief imam can never talk ill about the bible. A novice like you is just being mischieveous. You're so misled!
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 1:01pm On Nov 05, 2010
oloddo-@doya-daeyli--Your Ignorance is hyper-Lating every moment you hit the keyboard, I do not need asking any Iman as the Bible is filled with sewage garbage only a few portion can be considered to be from God> Ok! If you have any evidence bring it instead of farting out Lies that your Pastor told u Last sunday. And on LRA ypu show how deep Ignorance has eaten into your skull

The Lord's Resistance Army (also Lord's Resistance Movement or Lakwena Part Two) is a sectarian religious and military group based in northern Uganda.
The group was formed in 1987 and is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Holy Spirit, which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[3]
The group is based in apocalyptic Christianity[4][5][6][7][8][9][10], but also is influenced[11] by a blend of Mysticism[12] and traditional religion,[13] and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition.[3][14][15]
The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and children, and forcing children to participate in hostilities.[16]
The LRA operates mainly in northern Uganda, but also in parts of Sudan, Central African Republic and DR Congo.[17][18] The LRA is currently proscribed as a terrorist organization by the United States.[19][20]\\http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

This information shows how sick you really are and how "decent" information is far from you.


And again bring evidence that shows that Muslims Kill rams to for Forgiveness or know that you are a Liar with no iota of shame.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 1:21pm On Nov 05, 2010
bashy_demy:

@Mudley313 dont mind us jare we are only try to clearify things for those  so they will understand much about there religion and also diffrent between religion crisis and tribal crisis but because it happen in north they use it to qualify religion saying muslims have started killing xtain but when it happen in west here they said Yoruba and Hausa are fighting,  so they should not be bais chikena

^^^and what has this got to do with the title of this thread?

Can we all just get along?

The arguments between you guys is a perfect example of how religion is used to divide people. A bunch of Nigerians arguing over the superiority of a jewish and arabian deity; black folks arguing over gods and belief systems brought to you by white folks who enslaved and pillaged your land at the same time. smh

I am certain if you guys should together channel your energies into more productive avenues, nigeria would be a much better place to live in. It's only going to continue like this>>>>>>>>>>>
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 3:23pm On Nov 05, 2010
very typical of Ignorant atheist thinking they can tell other people how to live their live with their useless minority views that they copied from  men more foolish than themselves. In this entire thread no one is arguing on whose God is better? the argument is clearly about the sense behind God killing his "own"  "son". One may ask what tangible fruit has atheism brought to mankind? but I guess that has never crossed your thought. And what contribution has your thoughts on nigeria brought.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by daylae(m): 5:20pm On Nov 05, 2010
@Mudley, hold on to your void idea. I understand the philosophy more than you do;but i tell you is just a ruse. There is no sitting on the fence. There are things we reject but still have a way of affecting our lives. There are no exemptions!

But to the topic,much been said already. Is just left for us to reason with the truth.

@Vadexcool: i suspect someone has been doing his homework.  I thank google for your life. This is just a case of one man's excuse to grab power. It has nothing to do with religious movement, but power greed. More than 80% of ugandans are christians already. He is just a typical,power thirsty "war lord." They terrorize the region not base on religous sentiments. Kone is just a rebel who doesn't care if you're a muslim or christian before he unleashes terror.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 10:47pm On Nov 05, 2010
vedaxcool:

very typical of Ignorant atheist thinking they can tell other people how to live their live with their useless minority views that they copied from  men more foolish than themselves.

smh @ someone who worships an imaginary arabian deity brought to him by a  savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prophet of god calling others ignorant and foolish. it is you who is an ignorant buffoon and need to get your head seriously examined in a psychiatric ward for believing in ancient arabian folktales. i bet your dumbass also believe alaadin and the wonderful lamp was a real story too; atleast its more believable, more interesting and with less acts of barbarity than your gutter book called the koran


In this entire thread no one is arguing on whose God is better? the argument is clearly about the sense behind God killing his "own"  "son".

and do you believe that this god's own son he killed is god himself (aka the christian god)? cos if you don't then you clearly believe your imaginary towel head arabian desert god is better/the real deal. retarded dumbfuck


daylae:

@Mudley, hold on to your void idea. I understand the philosophy more than you do;but i tell you is just a ruse. There is no sitting on the fence. There are things we reject but still have a way of affecting our lives. There are no exemptions!

i guess your absolute belief that a jewish carpenter murdered like a common criminal is god is just a ruse as well since there's no sitting on the fence with things you reject, like allah being the one true god and providing people with virgins in the afterlife or zeus and the other hoards of greek gods and godesses or olodumare, krishna or even guru maharaji who claims to be god, cos (according to you) they still affect our lives. remember, there are no exemptions

you guys can keep killing yourselves over imaginary friends that can never speak nor act for themselves. deluded goats

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Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by roymary: 12:46am On Nov 06, 2010
Mudley313:

smh @ someone who worships an imaginary arabian deity brought to him by a  savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prophet of god calling others ignorant and foolish. it is you who is an ignorant buffoon and need to get your head seriously examined in a psychiatric ward for believing in ancient arabian folktales. i bet your dumbass also believe alaadin and the wonderful lamp was a real story too; atleast its more believable, more interesting and with less acts of barbarity than your gutter book called the koran
and do you believe that this god's own son he killed is god himself (aka the christian god)? cos if you don't then you clearly believe your imaginary towel head arabian desert god is better/the real deal. retarded dumbfuck
i guess your absolute belief that a jewish carpenter murdered like a common criminal is god is just a ruse as well since there's no sitting on the fence with things you reject, like allah being the one true god and providing people with virgins in the afterlife or zeus and the other hoards of greek gods and godesses or olodumare, krishna or even guru maharaji who claims to be god, cos (according to you) they still affect our lives. remember, there are no exemptions
you guys can keep killing yourselves over imaginary friends that can never speak nor act for themselves. deluded goats



Only a fool says there is no God. Its not ideal or right to call another a fool but your rants shows you are inevitably a deluded fool. You are worthless in my own sight if you disregard the existence of God. The lil ant is of more value than you are. I have no reasons to prove jack to you; the proof is all around you; but your insight lacks life in it.

There are two religions: one that originates from man’s heart and the other originates from God’s heart. Indeed, all religions that differ from God’s plan of salvation through Jesus Christ is merely the imagination of men. When we seek God, it is vitally important that we do not try to find the way that suits us best!

Keep finding any way besides what is written in God’s Word and you will be disappointed gallantly.

Nairaland is not even a place to argue because i can not see your sorry face; you might truly not be worth talking to. As for me, i still have so much catching-up to do to make Heaven and won't let a blockhead nor a devil's advocate distract or waste my precious time.

Enjoy your life while it lasts! Its not mandatory you believe there is a God neither is it compulsory that you accept Jesus Christ. Heaven will have its own people and Hell won't relent at keeping her own candidates. Its your Choice.

Honestly, considering your conjectural rants, its glaring your earthly knowledge is below average thereby understanding spiritual phenomenon won't be such an easy task for you. I hope you find favor in the sight of God someday. I can only hope.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Sweetnecta: 2:24pm On Nov 06, 2010
@Mudley313: « #247 on: Yesterday at 10:47:35 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: vedaxcool on Yesterday at 03:23:25 PM
very typical of Ignorant atheist thinking they can tell other people how to live their live with their useless minority views that they copied from men more foolish than themselves.

smh @ someone who worships an imaginary arabian deity brought to him by a savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prophet of god [/Quote]So do you belief there is a god, lets leave God out of it for a moment? And please give me evidents that what Vedaxcool worships is IMAGINARY and it is an it is an ARABIC deity, while others have a different deity and there is a savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prohet? If you cant provide cogent proofs, it is better to not make accusations. Somebody may just challenge you just as I am doing now, and push you hard so that you may just have to eat back your vomit from the gutter you threw it in, in the first place. This is no back and forth here. I just want you to provide proofs that satisfy normal human minds and not just the rebellious acts that you are putting on here. You dont believe in existence of God, no problem. God is not hurt by it. It is your free will to do so. I am not even concern by your like, we call you Mushrikuun, similar to idolatry except you do not have any, but wiping off God is what you employ while the hindus for example now celebrating a new year has figurines.



[Quote],calling others ignorant and foolish. it is you who is an ignorant buffoon and need to get your head seriously examined in a psychiatric ward for believing in ancient arabian folktales. i bet your dumbass also believe alaadin and the wonderful lamp was a real story too; atleast its more believable, more interesting and with less acts of barbarity than your gutter book called the koran[/Quote]While you curse like a drunken sailor or a one who lost his fortune to Madoff, give the arabic folktale that is correspondent to "There is Just One God"? And snce you think Quran which you write as Koran is gutter, you may have to eat your words under it,if you can show me how it is gutter, when through it many people become "very clean and hygienic". Quran says that in Surah Waqiah that people must be clean before they touch it. And I am sure you dont wipe yourself properly, even in your maturity.



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In this entire thread no one is arguing on whose God is better? the argument is clearly about the sense behind God killing his "own" "son".

and do you believe that this god's own son he killed is god himself (aka the christian god)? cos if you don't then you clearly believe your imaginary towel head arabian desert god is better/the real deal. retarded dumbfuck[/QUote]In the heat of the sun, in the desert, towel head is the way to cool down. Ask anyone who had ever been in a desert before. You need a shade man. And if it is sandy, you need to wrap it up, except your eye, because of and storm.



[Quote]Quote from: daylae on Yesterday at 05:20:44 PM
@Mudley, hold on to your void idea. I understand the philosophy more than you do;but i tell you is just a ruse. There is no sitting on the fence. There are things we reject but still have a way of affecting our lives. There are no exemptions!

i guess your absolute belief that a jewish carpenter murdered like a common criminal is god is just a ruse as well since there's no sitting on the fence with things you reject, like allah being the one true god and providing people with virgins in the afterlife or zeus and the other hoards of greek gods and godesses or olodumare, krishna or even guru maharaji who claims to be god, cos (according to you) they still affect our lives. remember, there are no exemptions

you guys can keep killing yourselves over imaginary friends that can never speak nor act for themselves. deluded goats[/Quote]They say a bad leader is better than no leader at all.They also say those who stand for nothing will for anything. This is your case, Mudley313, and you are welcome to refute my statement here. here is my proof: You may not believe that Allah is not in existence, His Name in yoruba, a language that is my mother tongue is Olorun. Is there a Painting that has no Painter? And this world we live in is where all the Painters have their inspirations. Can you therefore say to me that their is no One that keeps it orderly? Your lack of direction, exhibiting new wave rebel attitude like the women lib's movement of the 1960 of the flower decade burning of bras seemed to usher in that freedom, forgetting that Islam gave equality to women in everything, elevating women by the virtue of her womb even more so. Symbolism may not be the reality. There is nothing real in factoring out Monet from his masterpieces. You cant factor out God from being the Creator and Fashioner of things. To do so defies logic and such a one needs mental attention of Neurosurgeon, coupled with Neurologists.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 4:38pm On Nov 06, 2010
^^^man you hit the nail on the head.Lol! grin grin grin grin grin grin


@Mudley; I did expect you to show any form of higher Intelligence, as I have Noticed most atheist on Nl are Atheist out of furstration not based on  any form of  objective reason, and I asked you what sensible contribution has athesim brought into this world except subtle anarchism? But your Gingervalis invested MOUTH HAS LEFT YOU STUTTERING FOR ANSWER, THE OTHER TIME i ARGUED WITH A Dumb atheist that claimed Muslim conceive God as being some form of HUMAN  I had to laugh at his pathetic Ignorance, Mud?? has hardly proived he knows better, most of the atheist on NL are simply atheist based on one Life's disappointment or the other, I believe my belief gives a more reasonable answer on the creation of the universe than your idiotic "We are here by chance---(0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, 0001)", you may as well claim the Eiffel Tower came by chance and even the PYRAMIDS EVOLVED FROM NON-LIVINg MATTER, DEBASED CRETIN. the position of the earth in our Solar system is a sign to those that can think -OH! I forgot you are Just too Ignorant to think for yourself, you have to wait for mazaje or run to the atheist elders committee! Let me Leave this waste of biological resources and continue with the purpose of this thread ISNM

daylae:


But to the topic,much been said already. Is just left for us to reason with the truth.

@Vadexcool: i suspect someone has been doing his homework.  I thank google for your life. This is just a case of one man's excuse to grab power. It has nothing to do with religious movement, but power greed. More than 80% of ugandans are christians already. He is just a typical,power thirsty "war lord." They terrorize the region not base on religous sentiments. Kone is just a rebel who doesn't care if you're a muslim or christian before he unleashes terror.      

But people like you have the guts to now accuse Islam of violence done by some misguided individuals, as Muslims die in this violence-note bombs do not discriminate among religions, it kills anybody, yet you keep insisting that Islam is responsible for heartless violence perpetuated by some misguided people, note the number of terrorist cannot be up to 1% of the Muslim's population in the world. hear what Bin Laden has said " the US govt should stop supporting dictatorial govt in the arab world", Bin laden is fighting more of a Political war just like the Taliban fighting the US for the control of Afghanistan, Just like the LRA fighting the Ugandan Govt for control of the country, so when next you want to accuse Islam of being a religion of suicide bombing for 70 virgins do think that the same arguement can  be made of any religion, note that Islam brought light to Europe when there where in the dark ages, it was Muslims that furthered the course of science when Europe was still fighting the DOGMATIC  influence of he Holy see, not atheist, but Muslims that gave the spark to Science with numerous contribution they made in science and also added religious tolerance when your christian brotheersrs in EUROPE where dealing hefty blows to the jews.

Tracing history back to medieval Spain, Andalusia is perhaps the only place in Europe where followers of three faiths: Muslims, Jews and Christians lived peacefully together to produce a common culture and a harmonious society. This unusual period aptly referred to as “The Golden age of Andalusia” is also termed “La Convivencia” or “Coexistence”. A model for today’s religious unrest and conflict, revisiting this era in Spain can provided us with valuable information and inspiration for our 21st Century

http://www.esotericquest.org/articles/conviviencia.html

More reading

http://islambrowser..com/2010/07/andalusia-in-memory.html

and do note Atheism cannot point to any tangible contribution.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Mudley313: 4:51pm On Nov 06, 2010
from this:
roymary:
Its not ideal or right to call another a fool

to these:
roymary:

Only a fool says there is no God.
you are inevitably a deluded fool.


i see you're not only a deluded idi0t, you're also a confused and hypocritical buffoon. just pls stop parading yourself as a christian on here cos you display not an iota of being christ-like with the filth you effortlessly spout out your smelly mouth

since you've decided to resort to name calling in defense of your long dead and rotten never-can-do-more-than-a-dead-rat jewish carpenter of a so-called god i would leave you to your own deluded folly. i only blame your irresponsible father for not flushing your worthless deluded self down the toilet in a condom after paying your pr0stitute mum for sex. ewu


Sweetnecta:

@Mudley313: « #247 on: Yesterday at 10:47:35 PM »So do you belief there is a god, lets leave God out of it for a moment? And please give me evidents that what Vedaxcool worships is IMAGINARY and it is an it is an ARABIC deity, while others have a different deity and there is a savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prohet? If you cant provide cogent proofs, it is better to not make accusations.

even though you also came at me with the usual vitriolics of name callings usually employed by supposedly religious folks on here, i'll take my time out to provide proof of my earlier assertions just cos you were a tid-bit more civil than that goat roymary, even though like anyone brainwashed by obviously absurd religious dogmas, you still may see it otherwise. okay, here you go:

-your god allah is imaginary because (like every other imaginary gods) it only exist in the pages of your worthless religious text and in the minds of it's deluded followers. proove me wrong

-your deity is arabian (or of arabian origin) because it was concocted in the mind of an arabian peadophile, first worshiped by ancient arabians (before they decided to spread it outside of arabia through force and terror) that's why its words (purportedly written by the deluded peadophile prophet) is in arabic. just like yahweh has it's origins with the jews, zeus with the greeks or olodumare with the yorubas. if you know the stories of each of these aforementioned likewise imaginary deities, you'd know they aint at all one and the same. unless, you're not only deluded but mentally imbalanced as well

-on muhammad being a peadophile:

Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 65:
“Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: “I have been informed that Aisha remained with the
prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).”"

if banging a 9 year old does not constitute peadophila to you then i'm worried for your neighbours children

And snce you think Quran which you write as Koran is gutter, you may have to eat your words under it,if you can show me how it is gutter, when through it many people become "very clean and hygienic".

oh please, save all that for your fellow deluded morons. your gutter koran inspired those who perpetrated the dastardly acts of 9/11, the senseless massacres in northern nigeria and countless other better-not-to-be-mentioned acts of savagery and incomprehensible brutality throughout history and across the globe. gutter is even too nice of a word to use in describing that despicable book you call the koran

and to that fool called vedaxcool. i have no words for you moronic mallam. log off and go partake in your usual acts of savagery that peadophile commanded y'all to carry out, like throwing stones at your females. deluded slave of the pathetic imaginary stone-aged idol called allah. uncouth barbarians


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seriously, what's with this new invasion of the religious forum by these terrorist wannabes? i thought you islamic fundamentalists were provided a seperate forum section of your own
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by vedaxcool(m): 4:57pm On Nov 06, 2010
^^
Some one is convulsing, I am uncouth yet have you read all your post on this thread eh, savage grim line.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 5:06pm On Nov 06, 2010
Mudley
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by Sweetnecta: 4:05am On Nov 07, 2010
@Mudley313: « #251 on: Yesterday at 04:51:21 PM »
[Quote]from this:
Quote from: roymary on Yesterday at 12:46:59 AM
Its not ideal or right to call another a fool

to these:
Quote from: roymary on Yesterday at 12:46:59 AM
Only a fool says there is no God.
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you are inevitably a deluded fool.
Huh

i see you're not only a deluded idi0t, you're also a confused and hypocritical buffoon. just pls stop parading yourself as a christian on here cos you display not an iota of being christ-like with the filth you effortlessly spout out your smelly mouth

since you've decided to resort to name calling in defense of your long dead and rotten never-can-do-more-than-a-dead-rat jewish carpenter of a so-called god i would leave you to your own deluded folly. i only blame your irresponsible father for not flushing your worthless deluded self down the toilet in a condom after paying your pr0stitute mum for sex. ewu

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 02:24:19 PM
@Mudley313: « #247 on: Yesterday at 10:47:35 PM »So do you belief there is a god, lets leave God out of it for a moment? And please give me evidents that what Vedaxcool worships is IMAGINARY and it is an it is an ARABIC deity, while others have a different deity and there is a savage arabian peadophile masquerading as a prohet? If you cant provide cogent proofs, it is better to not make accusations.

even though you also came at me with the usual vitriolics of name callings usually employed by supposedly religious folks on here, i'll take my time out to provide proof of my earlier assertions just cos you were a tid-bit more civil than that goat roymary, even though like anyone brainwashed by obviously absurd religious dogmas, l okay, here you go:

-your god allah is imaginary because (like every other imaginary gods) it only exist in the pages of your worthless religious text and in the minds of it's deluded followers. proove me wrong[/Quote]Cogent proofs, I requested, and this here immediately above is the best you came out with. If you accept what you said here as cogent and enough proof[s], then you must have to accept that it is not everything that exist that you see, hence you term what exist imaginary just because you can see it for many reasons, limited knowledge and or hard heart may be part of the reasons. Is the world as a whole beautiful and complex, both at the same time? Yes. Can it all be without a Master Painter, if now art exist with a painter? Yet you can accept that it makes sense for a painting exist because there is a painter (man who is skilled in making that beautiful thing you hang on your wall), but you refuse that there is A Painter Who is Skilled in Making earth that hangs without any support, since thats what the Astronauts saw, as they look back at the earth from SPACE.

Now I will use a verse in Surah Rahman to inform you that Allah says about human ability in the future, to Muhammad (AS) in 1400 plus years ago;
Chapter 55 verse 33: O assembly of jinns and men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)! The bold when read as is, tells us that all the efforts of man, you and I happen to be in this class are limited, in ability, but Allah is Limitless in His Ability. Hence we see that all manned and unmanned space crafts, will go as far as they can, even till the end of time, if man can design such a timeless traveler. But at the end, no one of them will be able to reach the boundary of the world, and knocking at the "first" layer of heavens.

If only this profound verse I present, could any one in 1400 years earlier that man will endeavor to enter the space, and struggle to get far and deep into it, exploring it, so that what is contained if anything can be investigated and even traveling to the moon and others, and wanting to"Conquer" the space as in "Penetrate" the space?

Please read verses 12 through 22 of the same Surah and tell me if it was Imaginary deity that is telling a real man (Muhammad AS)),commanding him to tell mankind about two seas that meet, byt dont mix: Please argue with evidence, just as I'am trying to do here.

12: And also corn, with (its) leaves and stalk for fodder, and sweet-scented plants.

13: So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

14: He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery.

15: And He created the jinn from a smokeless flame of fire.

16: So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

17: (He is) the Lord of the two easts (places of sunrise during early summer and early winter) and the Lord of the two wests (places of sunset during early summer and early winter).

18: So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

19: He has let loosed the two seas (the salt water and the sweet) meeting together.

20: Between them is a barrier which neither of them can transgress.

21: So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

22: From both of them emerge pearl and coral.



[Quote]-your deity is arabian (or of arabian origin) because it was concocted in the mind of an arabian peadophile, first worshiped by ancient arabians (before they decided to spread it outside of arabia through force and terror) that's why its words (purportedly written by the deluded peadophile prophet) is in arabic. just like yahweh has it's origins with the jews, zeus with the greeks or olodumare with the yorubas.[/Quote]Regardless of which tribe you belong to in the world, since I led you to making examples within the yoruba tribe, I am just for the sake of this thread agree that you and I are yoruba, so when we talk ill or nice about the yorubas, no one will take it that we are tribal begot. Fair enough. Is the word "yoruba" imaginary? Of course not. Why? maybe because you can feel, see, touch, smell, and run into them especially in a place called Nigeria, and more so in Yoruba Cities, Towns, and Villages situated in SW Nigeria. The yorubas will tell you that they have the best culture, language, even so Fela openly said "English is Yoruba badly spoken".

Imagine an Igbo man agreeing with aYoruba man that he, the yoruba man has the best culture and or language! That is impossible, because to the Igbo, the exact conditions apply to his culture, language, so much so that they say "Igbo Kwenu". Will a man from Ashanti tribe of Ghana agree with either of these Nigerians? Not on your life. Everyone believes he carries the best trait of world citizenry. They are at least standing on something; their culture and language, etc by which they are identified and defined. You as an atheist stands on zero, thinking that you are the master of your own Universe, yet you cant stop yourself from eating when extremely hungry, sustaining yourself, otherwise, with your empty arrogance will collapse in days and dies off within a month.

Now then, if Yoruba, hausa, Igbo, Ashanti, etc have defined cultures, languages, etc, how did it develop that they have a name for specific single thing, unique for the most part and known by each member in the specific tribal group. The Yorubas call Chair Ijoko, King Oba, yet you say God does not exist, so Olorun does not exist, and Allah which is Proper Name just as Medley313 is proper name for you(I am assuming for the sakeof this discussion), does not exist. Well, I do not see you, hence you are not even a hologram, which is not the same as The Allah Who says no one can see Him (Surah Araf).

And the Arabic worshiped Allah and had idols which they associate with Him, as if they will be the intermediary between the individual arab and Allah, Who they never make a doll or idol to represent Him. In the year of the birth of the Messenger (AS), Abraha invaded MAkka with the stealth bomber of its time, the elephant. The grand father of the prophet (AS) runs to the ka'aba and says "Oh the Owner of this house, protect your house". Then he took to the hills, leaving Makka unprotected for Abraha to just overrun it. Abraha was defeated by the army Allah fielded for the singular battle to end the war. The little birds pick up small, pieces of stone, just barely bigger than small grain of sand. Each bird in the flock dropped it on the abraha military personnels, exploding on them, killing them and demoralizing them all at the same time, without a singe Makka lifting up his finger. Is this an imaginary event, too?



[Quote]if you know the stories of each of these aforementioned likewise imaginary deities, you'd know they aint at all one and the same. unless, you're not only deluded but mentally imbalanced as well[/Quote]While you are right that they are not the same, a yoruba muslim,will say Olorun to another yoruba muslim when they are talking about Allah, using yoruba language. Two igbo muslims will say Chukwu just the same. And i wonder in your world while peadophiles marry their victim, who never complaint to anyone that she is a victim,nor the peadophile does not go about sleeping with children or even adults he is not legally married to.Can a peadophile marry a woman and allow her to be prop[er woman, keeping away from her while she lived with him in the three years she needed to be a full woman? Whereever you are on earth, go to a police station and present this scenario, and say you accused the person, calling him a peadophile. Watch if the police will agree with you.



[Quote]-on muhammad being a peadophile:

Quote
Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 65:
“Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her [/b]when she was [b]six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: “I have been informed that Aisha remained with the
prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).”"[/Quote]A woman and a man wrote a marriage contract and the man waited for three years before slept with his wife. Have you seen a woman who is not matured and ready to me a wife enter into marriage, properly by participating in the formulation of the binding contract between her and her husband? Was she forced? No. id she enter the contract and marriage, willingly? Yes, considering that she was even engaged to be married to somebody else who dissolved the possibility of it because of Islam. When was Aisha born; before or after the beginning of Islam, which spent 13 years in Makka, and her father being the first from outside the family of Muhammad to enter islam,in the very first year of Islam. The entering of Islam brought the ending of the marriage between her parents because mom refused to enter islam, and Aisha was not reported to be form after this, but before her father entered Islam, being just 10 years younger than her older sister Asmaa, who was a teenager when islam began. Surah Nisaa tells you the conditions that must apply before marriage. Everyone must reach the age of marriage before getting marriage. Puberty is an essential sign of reaching that age. Muhammad (AS) who personify "Quran"could not go against, as no one in the community complained that he did, and Allah did not make exception for him as in the numbers of wives;

Surah Nisa 4:6:

"Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If the guardian is well-off, Let him claim no remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take witnesses in their presence: But all-sufficient is God in taking account."

Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/numberone.htm

Notice that USA over 100 years ago set a SPECIFIC age in which you can marry and participate in sexual activity. In other words, if you have not reached puberty at 10 years old, you could easily 100 years back in USA, have had prepubescent intercourse! Why? Because NOT EVERYONE REACHES PUBERTY AT 10. The USA law back then and now is based on guess work and conjecture. In contrast, the Islamic law which came centuries before the USA law, it is far superior because it does NOT give any chance of prepubescent intercourse to occur, based on the teachings. This is because there is no specific age limit of marriage, because puberty can occur at different ages for different people. This means that you can marry at puberty and cannot have intercourse with the spouse until the marriage is completed (puberty), which shows that the Islamic teaching make it IMPOSSIBLE for you to commit prepubescent intercourse, which shows superiority of the Islamic teachings.



[Quote]if banging a 9 year old does not constitute peadophila to you then i'm worried for your neighbours children[/Quote]Am sure that I am safe from your accusation, while I wonder if you stay away from a woman you are not married to,since there is no moral compass that you are using, while I use the Quran for guidance.



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And snce you think Quran which you write as Koran is gutter, you may have to eat your words under it,if you can show me how it is gutter, when through it many people become "very clean and hygienic".

oh please, save all that for your fellow deluded morons. your gutter koran inspired those who perpetrated the dastardly acts of 9/11, [/Quote]You dont even live in NYC. I live in NYC. You are what we call a far away nalyst based on the video, alone. Some in America have argued that it is an inside job. Some in far away Croatia, the slaughterer of Muslims in the 1990s think along the same line. It is very popular nowadays to blame Islam for everything, including why are muslims left on earth, instead of killing them all. You can now see how high is your morality?



[Quote]the senseless massacres in northern nigeria and countless other better-not-to-be-mentioned acts of savagery and incomprehensible brutality throughout history and across the globe. gutter is even too nice of a word to use in describing that despicable book you call the koran[/Quote]Drunkenness speech laced with pride and arrogance. And when the Civil War Started, it was islam. And the people who have no religion will have no reason to be moderate or restraint. There is no benefit in fad. I have seen many fads end up being nothing. And thats what your claim that there is no God is. Its devoid of normalcy, comment from morally sound mind. It is a wrap idea. Soon, you will grow old and wither away like the petal of flower that passed its full bloom some time in relatively distant past.



[Quote]and to that fool called vedaxcool. i have no words for you moronic mallam. log off and go partake in your usual acts of savagery that peadophile commanded y'all to carry out, like throwing stones at your females. deluded slave of the pathetic imaginary stone-aged idol called allah. uncouth barbarians[/Quote]Your thinking is similar to the cronic chain smoker, who has he coughs blood says cigarette is good for him, regardless of the smoke and nicotine, etc. What is good in living a basic life like the animals, domesticated or not? But yet this is what the people who say there is no God are all about; weak up do all that make them happy, which is nothing, really and fall asleep at night like a cattle, without ever reflecting on anything; whats my role within this complex painting called Universe? many of us will bury a woman or man in the mud and stone are without giving her a chance to run, and the possibility of her/him saying I am not guilty so that we can leave the Final Decision to Allah, since we have fulfilled the stoning part, which we stopped as she took pack the confession.



[Quote]seriously, what's with this new invasion of the religious forum by these terrorist wannabes? i thought you islamic fundamentalists were provided a seperate forum section of your own[/Quote]We are here to spoil your fun. I see how easy to rattle you cage and make you frustrated. If we are not trying to oppose you with truth, you will easily run gunshot over the truth and some person may just think that you have something said.
Re: Why Did God Have To ''Kill His Son''? by bashydemy(m): 5:55am On Nov 07, 2010
@Sweetnecta i always enjoy most of your comments may ALLAH be your guidance

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