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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by EgunMogaji2: 9:19pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
ascendo: You raised some valid points. In the USA it’ll take me only 5 minutes before I hit the freeway on-ramp and put pedal to the metal. Here in Nigeria it takes me a good 30 minutes before I can get to any semblance of high speed. I use 20W50 in my 4Runner and Kurupe and they are both loving it. 5 Likes |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 9:20pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
EgunMogaji2: 1 Like
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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 9:31pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
ascendo: Nairaland oil sellers association will not be happy with this your post oh.. With the 5w grade, my engine is quieter though.. I believe one will be fine using 20w-50 with 3 months/3k miles oil change interval.. The last part about synthetic oil is for dru baba.. the chief oil seller on nairaland 1 Like
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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:44pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
EgunMogaji2: Me I can never use it at all ....never ......ever .....ever... |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 9:48pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Derailingrailer: According to dru, the oil expert |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:49pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
ascendo: So you want to sell water to a well? |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:52pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
thebigkendo: Yankee we use Miles..instead of Km For weight we use Ibs(pounds) Yankee is no longer control by the British Empire.. Anything British we reject.... |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:53pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
thebigkendo: I dey use 5w20 for my Honda all year round o.. 1 Like |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 9:54pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
dru23: Did you see the part about synthetic? |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by drered(m): 10:11pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
Hey guys. Since we're talking engine oils, what would you advise on this? I drive a 2011 Toyota Camry with a mileage of about 196,000. What is the best engine oil for high milage cars like this considering manufacturer recommendation? The former owner used an organic oil which I recently just changed to the manufacturer recommended 0W20 - (Synthetic, Toyota) |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 10:15pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
drered:Kwantinue the organic |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 10:47pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
dru23: Since you import, I'll take the stress and risk away from you so that you face your business squarely. |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 10:50pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
drered: At 196,000kms: if you can't get Part Synthetic oil-10W40, then got for API-SN or SL of 20W50 |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 11:56pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
ascendo: Thanks, but No thanks...... And who said anything about stress ? Am doing just ok by me ....plus I have loyal customers that demand the best in quality and price... you can't beat my price and I don't want quality compromise.... Kindly stick to selling your 20w50 oyel ...... |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 12:02am On Sep 10, 2019 |
thebigkendo: Not really.. Mobil 1 5w20 extended performace is a goal for my Honda cars....full synthetic baby... my engines are well protected... |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 12:11am On Sep 10, 2019 |
mammanbawa: Follow manufacturer advice ...if you use good quality oil especially 5w30 which of course is a multi grade than its a goal .. 20w50 is not in my vocabulary... if it works well than good for u .. Me using 20w50 oil is like Malcolm X catching jungle fever |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Xneg: 1:49am On Sep 10, 2019 |
dru23: What he's trying to say is that, they never consider Nigeria when building this engines, if they did, you will see that engine oil recommended when d vehicle is exlorted might be slightly different. I use 5w30 for my Lexus but my mum had a Toyota matrix she bought 2005 and the vehicle is still running fine today, 20w50 for 14yrs now. So tell me, if your engine runs fine after 14yrs, what more tmdo you need? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 2:08am On Sep 10, 2019 |
Xneg: Runs fine and runs efficiently are two different things ...I rather have my engine run efficiently by using the rite quality oil... do u know that 20w50 is not a common viscosity in USA .. I check Mobil 1 and other top selling engine oil brand. I couldn't not find it at all very rare ....... A light bulb came to my head and Saud since naija want wreck their engine faster, maybe I should help them by selling 20w50 oil ...omo I search tired and I couldnt get some to buy in large quantities like I do with my other Mobil 1 extended performance... I was sad o... And your mom's car that has been using 20w50 I would like to take a physical look at the engine ...just curious to see how the engine is holding up ....
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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 6:55am On Sep 10, 2019 |
dru23: I said this some weeks back in another of your thread https://www.nairaland.com/5337726/new-items-alert-mobil-1/1#81759782 thbigkendo: We know all this oil advice you keep giving is for the money and nothing else.. If you can get "amelica" 20w-50 for less than 4500.. Am sure you market will boom!! |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 7:01am On Sep 10, 2019 |
thebigkendo: 1. I still use Mobil 1 extended performace on all my uber cars.. With Fram oil filters for 15k miles interval... And due to the rough driving conditions stop and go dust etc I change my oil every 12k miles.. This has been going on for the two years plus after firing my old manager ... if u now compare the oil I was that eventually mess up my engines causing oil shortage, I think my Extended Performance oil is doing just fine ... 2. You mention that the hustle is real ? If I really wanted to make money I will just sale the regular USA Mobil and tell customers to come back to do oil change every 5k miles .. This way I make more money by having customers come for frequent unnessary oil change... And mind u my price is the same as the USA non extended performace Mobil 1 oil .....Think about it 3.. Read to understand my friend.... Maybe the oil you are using can't go the distance.. Now if I drive highway driving majority of the time ,than I will go the full distance of 15k miles oil change interval ..since the cars are use for stressful jobs I change them every 12k miles ... 4. When was the last time I complain of engine issue on nairaland? After using the rite oil on my cars I never really had issues apart from the wear and tear on the cars from uber.. 5. Has anybody ever complain and came on the forum and said that they bought oil from and my advice damage their cars..so my brother just quietly and sit down.. 6. The same oil that am using both personally and business wise is what am selling.. At least you can't say that am not using the product that am selling... 7.. Am waiting for the rest of my goods to clear from the port. Once that is clear ,USA Full synthetic oil is about to be affordable for everyone.... When that happens am waiting to hear what u going to say .... 8. Stay bless bro... 1 Like
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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 7:09am On Sep 10, 2019 |
dru23: So you mean.. We should follow user manual by using "recommended" oil, then we should not follow user Manual by doing 12k oil change? The pic you shared.. Is that user manual? Or was mobil 1 extended performance oil mentioned? Or any synthetic oil? |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by AshipaEk0: 7:18am On Sep 10, 2019 |
If the most parts of Nigeria (other than far north) that sees a maximum 36 degrees centigrade temperature for 2 weeks in a year is HOT WEATHER then please tell me what the desert regions Saudi or UAE will be called? That means they use 100W100 oil I don't even understand. Do you even know the normal operating temperature of a car engine? Thermostat opens at around 85 - 95 degrees centigrade FFS. How is your ambient temperature of 33 degrees the problem? You people will just be peddling these kazeem mentality baseless lies to justify using shitty cheap mineral oil, emphasis on CHEAP. It's your vehicles and you have the right to use whatever oil you like, but to be misleading other people is just bad behavior 3 Likes |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Xneg: 7:20am On Sep 10, 2019 |
dru23: It definitely can't be common in the USA because that's not Nigeria. Different climate. |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Xneg: 7:21am On Sep 10, 2019 |
Anytime I visit, I will remember to send a picture, meanwhile the matrix has traveled Lagos to kaduna several times. Now hardly use the vehicle but it runs fine considering the age. |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by AshipaEk0: 7:25am On Sep 10, 2019 |
climate being a factor for oil is COLD CLIMATE at START UP when engine is cold. Weather below ZERO where things are frozen. If your oil is not light enough it becomes a problem at start up because not won't flow fast enough to lubricate the engine. Even worse is when you use mineral oil that congeals like fake groundnut oil in the cold...... This thing is not even hard to understand 1 Like |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 7:31am On Sep 10, 2019 |
Xneg: states like Florida, Las Vegas, New Mexico, Texas, Arizona just to name few .. They all have similar climate as in Nigeria ...some might be hotter than Nigeria .... If you are buying good quality engine oil .. The oil should be Multi grade ,meaning that it can do well both in hot and cold climate ... keep in mind too car manufacturers are building better engines... so the need for thicker oil will no longer be needed .. Oil manufactures are also improving on their oil too.. 1 Like |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Xneg: 7:32am On Sep 10, 2019 |
If you can afford it, use sythentic but if you can't, don't kill yourself. I use sythentic for my vehicle but I won't condemn those not using it.
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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 8:11am On Sep 10, 2019 |
AshipaEk0: That's why it's not only about the specifications written on the body but the origin. If a blending plant uses Russian grade base oils to give you 5W20...my brother, 20W50 manufactured from American Core grades base oils is far better than it. Another thing to consider is which Lab tested the finished products and passed it for use? What tests were carried out before these products were passed? As for temperatures, there is an equipment called CCS-Cold Cranking Simulator the effect of the oil on a cold weather start up will be verified. Then it'll go through Foam Sequence Bath at 40 and 100 degrees and pass only when it didn't foam...it MUST go through Viscosity Tests at 40 and 100 degrees and the changes in the viscosity looked at. It will also go through Open Cup or Closed Cup Flash Point Tester to check the flash point and particle counting Test must be done and passed as well. Our problem here in Nigeria is that the Regulatory Bodies aren't doing enough to check the activities of sub standard industries. Once your API classification is satisfied, you are good to go as long as you've considered the age of the engine-very important. Oil has four functions: 1. Cooling 2. Sealing 3. Cleaning 4. Lubricating And your oyel MUST satisfy all these requirements. 1 Like |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by drered(m): 8:32am On Sep 10, 2019 |
ascendo: 196000 miles actually. Thanks for the advise. |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by mammanbawa: 9:33am On Sep 10, 2019 |
dru23:Whatever rows your boat |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 11:01am On Sep 10, 2019 |
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 11:08am On Sep 10, 2019 |
thebigkendo: Funny enough some higher model cars manual tells you can change oil at longer interval.. If using Full synthetic oil and it can be up to 10k miles ...we had this discussion before . I posted a Toyota manual that says so ...have to look again
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