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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 6:18pm On Sep 13, 2019
AshipaEk0:


Egole stop-start 5W30?

I'll get back to you latest by Monday.
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 6:21pm On Sep 13, 2019
thebigkendo:


Interesting.. So you mean Radautoworks has been selling synthetic oil for me as conventional grin

Bros: I responded to the best of my knowledge. Can I see the data sheet for that oil? Had it been I can get like 250ml, we run the analysis and send you the results
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Ikenna351(m): 7:01pm On Sep 13, 2019
mammanbawa:
My engine steams on cold start
After 128k kms
5 years and counting
20w - 50 every time
Convincing me to do otherwise is gonna be difficult
Except for Benz and other high end luxury models

You just proved your position on 20w-50 oil for your vehicle wrong with the pictures you attached.

That's bluish smoke. A sign of weak Engine about to enter grave. The 20w-50 you have been using have ruined that Engine, as the picture you attached has proven (other factors may contribute).

This is why I mentioned earlier that most 20w-50 oil users or Nigerians that abuse their vehicles usually claim their engines or vehicles have no issues and running perfectly fine with the wrong oil or abusive maintenance, until they bring their vehicles to experts/specialists, only to be told their Engines or vehicles are Walking Dead.

There is nothing Wrong with 20w-50 oil weight, be it mineral or synthetic. It's not a bad oil. It's just not meant for all Engines, especially the newer or modern ones. It's too thick for them.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by thebigkendo(m): 7:08pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:


Bros: I responded to the best of my knowledge. Can I see the data sheet for that oil? Had it been I can get like 250ml, we run the analysis and send you the results

You have a oil lab in Nigeria? Location?
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 7:19pm On Sep 13, 2019
Ikenna351:


You just proved your position on 20w-50 oil for your vehicle wrong with the pictures you attached.

That's bluish smoke. A sign of weak Engine about to enter grave. The 20w-50 you have been using have ruined that Engine, as the picture you attached has proven (other factors may contribute).

This is why I mentioned earlier that most 20w-50 oil users or Nigerians that abuse their vehicles usually claim their engines or vehicles have no issues and running perfectly fine with the wrong oil or abusive maintenance, until they bring their vehicles to experts/specialists, only to be told their Engines or vehicles are Walking Dead.

There is nothing Wrong with 20w-50 oil weight, be it mineral or synthetic. It's not a bad oil. It's just not meant for all Engines, especially the newer or modern ones. It's too thick for them.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.

I weak for the guy.. For them to follow owners manual it is a problem..... It is even too late for him to switch over to owners manual recommendation...
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 7:34pm On Sep 13, 2019
thebigkendo:


You have a oil lab in Nigeria? Location?

Lol have u seen a lab before ... u better focus on your road side shop.... PMM
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by mammanbawa: 8:43pm On Sep 13, 2019
AshipaEk0:



LMAO.

That's not steam bros.

That's light blue smoke grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy



But una wicked for this Nairaland o. So nobody was going to clear this bros?

Lmfao
It's the picture
Notice effect of the steam in the second picture
My car is not dead
Argue wth your keyboard
And once the temperature gets to the normal gauge
Nothing comes out
I know my car
I trust my car
And nothing you say will change anything
To each his own
Cheers

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 8:44pm On Sep 13, 2019
mammanbawa:


Lmfao
It's the picture
And once the temperature gets to the normal gauge
Nothing comes out
I know my car
I trust my car
And nothing you say will change anything
To each his own
Cheers
You got time
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by mammanbawa: 8:45pm On Sep 13, 2019
Ikenna351:


You just proved your position on 20w-50 oil for your vehicle wrong with the pictures you attached.

That's bluish smoke. A sign of weak Engine about to enter grave. The 20w-50 you have been using have ruined that Engine, as the picture you attached has proven (other factors may contribute).

This is why I mentioned earlier that most 20w-50 oil users or Nigerians that abuse their vehicles usually claim their engines or vehicles have no issues and running perfectly fine with the wrong oil or abusive maintenance, until they bring their vehicles to experts/specialists, only to be told their Engines or vehicles are Walking Dead.

There is nothing Wrong with 20w-50 oil weight, be it mineral or synthetic. It's not a bad oil. It's just not meant for all Engines, especially the newer or modern ones. It's too thick for them.

Ikenna351, Lion King - Monk.
It's not bluish
Might be the picture
If you look at the second picture, you'll notice effect of the steam on the floor
I'm done with this argument
To each his own
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:06pm On Sep 13, 2019
dru23:


Lol have u seen a lab before ... u better focus on your road side shop.... PMM

Bros... inasmuch as you can influence your audience online doesn't mean no one else knows it more than you.

Check Castrol Nigeria online and know where their Laboratory is. The Lab is even ILCP accredited aside ISO 9001:2015, SON MANCAP..

See the link below:

https://www.castrol.com/en_ng/nigeria.html

You can send me a PM and we discuss in detail. I can facilitate your facility tour
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:15pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:


Bros... inasmuch as you can influence your audience online doesn't mean no one else knows it more than you.

Check Castrol Nigeria online and know where their Laboratory is. The Lab is even ILCP accredited aside ISO 9001:2015, SON MANCAP..

See the link below:

https://www.castrol.com/en_ng/nigeria.html

You can send me a PM and we discuss in detail. I can facilitate your facility tour

Does the castrol you have meet or exceed API requirements.. It is a Yes Or No answer

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:32pm On Sep 13, 2019
YES!


But let me enlighten you more. API ie American Petroleum Institute Classification is a MUST on all multigrade oil that's why you get SD, SF, SJ, SL, and SN is the highest API Classification at the moment for Spark Ignited IC engine lubricants. The S in the classification shows that it's for petrol/gasoline engines ie spark ignited while API Classifications starting with C eg CD, CF, CH is for compression ignited engines or better still diesel engines.

Let's not argue much.

The symbol you see is for API Service and they went ahead to tell you that the product is the finest blend of the SN class

Its technical.

Castrol is not just oil, its fluid Engineering... trust me when I say that its fluid engineering. We don't just maintain standards...we improve on standards.

Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:37pm On Sep 13, 2019
mammanbawa:
My engine steams on cold start
After 128k kms
5 years and counting
20w - 50 every time
Convincing me to do otherwise is gonna be difficult
Except for Benz and other high end luxury models

This smoke is not bluish... it's a COLD START and the engine is yet to attain the operational temperature.

If you notice the temperature gauge for cars that still have thermostats...the temperature rises and gets to a place that looks like the middle of the gauge. At that point, if it tries to move up, the thermostats opens and the engine cooling fan comes on till the thermostat closes it again as the coolant is cooled down... the engine temperature maintains a range for optimum performance.

I rest my case...

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:49pm On Sep 13, 2019
dru23:


Does the castrol you have meet or exceed API requirements.. It is a Yes Or No answer
NEW API SN PLUS SPECIFICATIONS
API
Today’s modern engines are designed to deliver higher levels of performance, improved fuel economy and emissions benefits than ever before. Gasoline direct injection (GDI) engines are one of the more prevalent engine technologies that unlock the higher demands on today’s engines. GDI engines are sometimes susceptible to a condition called low speed pre-ignition (LSPI). A full range of Castrol’s products have been specially formulated to protect against LSPI and help you get the best from your vehicle.



1. What is SN PLUS?



API SN PLUS is the interim spec within the lubricants industry that supplements the API SN category for gasoline engine oil performance. It helps bridge the gap between current ILSAC GF-5 and future ILSAC GF-6 specifications. It was developed in response to auto manufacturers request to ensure gasoline direct engines have guaranteed protection against low speed pre-ignition (LSPI) events. LSPI is caused by high pressure build up in the cylinder of the engine which can damage your car’s engine.



2. How do I know I need an SN PLUS oil?



As of May 2018, no OEMS are recommending an API SN PLUS oil but check your owner’s manual to see if you have a gasoline direct engine that might benefit from an API SN PLUS oil. GDI engines are named differently by manufacturer (eg. GDI, FSI, SIDI, Eco Boost), consult your owner’s manual to understand what specific engine your car has. API SN PLUS is expected to be recommended by OEMs in 2019. A host of Castrol products are already API SN PLUS licensed and are ready to meet the API SN PLUS category needs when OEMs begin to require this product.



3. Does Castrol have products that meet API SN PLUS?



The core of Castrol products have been licensed by the American Petroleum Institute as meeting or exceeding the requirements of the API SN PLUS category. These products are

Castrol EDGE (Advanced Full Synthetic): 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol EDGE Professional: OE 0W-20,
Castrol EDGE Professional 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol EDGE High Mileage: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30
Castrol EDGE Extended Performance: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30
Castrol EDGE Bio-Synthetic: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol GTX MAGNATEC (Full Synthetic): 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol GTX High Mileage: 5W-30, 5W-20
Castrol GTX Ultraclean: 5W-20 and 5W-30
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:51pm On Sep 13, 2019
Take a look...

Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 9:53pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:

NEW API SN PLUS SPECIFICATIONS
API
Today’s modern engines are designed to deliver higher levels of performance, improved fuel economy and emissions benefits than ever before. Gasoline direct injection (GDI) engines are one of the more prevalent engine technologies that unlock the higher demands on today’s engines. GDI engines are sometimes susceptible to a condition called low speed pre-ignition (LSPI). A full range of Castrol’s products have been specially formulated to protect against LSPI and help you get the best from your vehicle.



1. What is SN PLUS?



API SN PLUS is the interim spec within the lubricants industry that supplements the API SN category for gasoline engine oil performance. It helps bridge the gap between current ILSAC GF-5 and future ILSAC GF-6 specifications. It was developed in response to auto manufacturers request to ensure gasoline direct engines have guaranteed protection against low speed pre-ignition (LSPI) events. LSPI is caused by high pressure build up in the cylinder of the engine which can damage your car’s engine.



2. How do I know I need an SN PLUS oil?



As of May 2018, no OEMS are recommending an API SN PLUS oil but check your owner’s manual to see if you have a gasoline direct engine that might benefit from an API SN PLUS oil. GDI engines are named differently by manufacturer (eg. GDI, FSI, SIDI, Eco Boost), consult your owner’s manual to understand what specific engine your car has. API SN PLUS is expected to be recommended by OEMs in 2019. A host of Castrol products are already API SN PLUS licensed and are ready to meet the API SN PLUS category needs when OEMs begin to require this product.



3. Does Castrol have products that meet API SN PLUS?



The core of Castrol products have been licensed by the American Petroleum Institute as meeting or exceeding the requirements of the API SN PLUS category. These products are

Castrol EDGE (Advanced Full Synthetic): 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol EDGE Professional: OE 0W-20,
Castrol EDGE Professional 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol EDGE High Mileage: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30
Castrol EDGE Extended Performance: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30, 10W-30
Castrol EDGE Bio-Synthetic: 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol GTX MAGNATEC (Full Synthetic): 0W-20, 5W-20, 5W-30
Castrol GTX High Mileage: 5W-30, 5W-20
Castrol GTX Ultraclean: 5W-20 and 5W-30

You didn't really answer my question? Does it exceed it ....Yes or No answer...... That is what am looking for.. From your write up and explanation it exceeds it ....keep in mind the USA Castrol magnatec gtx we talking about ...
Not edge... the castrol that you selling can just show me the bottle where it writes it exceed API .. That is 5w30 , if it does not write exceed Api am not buying it ...
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 9:58pm On Sep 13, 2019
Now I understand your question. I'll check and get back to you but I'm sure of SN
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 10:02pm On Sep 13, 2019
...but does your MOBIL 1 exceed SN?
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:12pm On Sep 13, 2019
Xneg:


It definitely can't be common in the USA because that's not Nigeria. Different climate.

Y'all do recognize it gets way hotter than Nigeria in the USA right?
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 10:13pm On Sep 13, 2019
20W 50 all the way
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 10:14pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:
Take a look...


Am talking about castrol Nigeria 5w30 to the USA Castrol gtx magnatec .... The picture u displayed is 5w40.. We not talking about that... coz I know the Nigeria Castrol 5w30 is just called magnatec. And the USA is called Magnatec gtx ... what you are comparing is the castrol edge 5w40.. I have no desire selling 5w40
.


VS

Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by ascendo(m): 10:19pm On Sep 13, 2019
dru23:



Am talking about castrol Nigeria 5w30 to the USA Castrol gtx magnatec .... The picture u displayed is 5w40.. We not talking about that... coz I know the Nigeria Castrol 5w30 is just called gtx or something

I just saw your new topic on Castrol. GTX Essential comes in 3 viscosity grades 20W50, 25W50 and 15W40...and are mineral oils.

Castrol edge has 5W20, 5W30, 5W40 and Magnatec has 5W30...all are full synthetic and available as for SN Plus, I'll check its availability
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:25pm On Sep 13, 2019
dru23:




And if you buy from Aunty Rad o
Omo nye ko kan mi o
And if you buy from me o
Omo nye ko kan wa o
Owo ni ko ko


Leave me out of this. You've mentioned me way too many times in this thread. I don't have time for this.
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 10:27pm On Sep 13, 2019
radautoworks:


Leave me out of this. You've mentioned me way too many times in this thread. I don't have time for this.
That's the bug, I spoke about. He's got it bad..... Only a bullet to the head can cure him

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 10:29pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:
...but does your MOBIL 1 exceed SN?


All my oil are imports ...and it does especially the Extended Performance ...people actually say Mobil 1 is much better than Castrol... I can't debate on that but in the USA Mobil seems to be more popular... That could be due to marketing o , I dont know for sure...
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:29pm On Sep 13, 2019
dru23:


You really don't seem to smart. The engine oil dey display at petrol station outside ? Are those cans too ? In the develop world engine oil are never display outside.. It is display inside the store for obvious reasons... but for naija once u pull up to fuel your tank na by outside the store u go see engine oil display for sale in the hot sun..

[s]That's probably because they are not in the business of selling engine oil SMH[/s] why am I still here?? angry
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 10:31pm On Sep 13, 2019
Smartchoiice:

That's the bug, I spoke about. He's got it bad..... Only a bullet to the head can cure him

Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by Nobody: 10:32pm On Sep 13, 2019

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Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(m): 10:34pm On Sep 13, 2019
radautoworks:


[s]That's probably because they are not in the business of selling engine oil SMH[/s] why am I still here?? angry

So engine oil are displayed outside the sun in USA ...smh... are u kidding.... Engine oil are supposed to m
Kept in a dry and cool environment away from moisture
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:34pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:
...available in drums as well

Shots fired! grin grin
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:35pm On Sep 13, 2019
thebigkendo:


Interesting.. So you mean Radautoworks has been selling synthetic oil for me as conventional grin

Abi grin
Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by radautoworks: 10:37pm On Sep 13, 2019
ascendo:


Bros: I responded to the best of my knowledge. Can I see the data sheet for that oil? Had it been I can get like 250ml, we run the analysis and send you the results

https://secureweb.infotrac.net/sds/getdoc.aspx?cid=5C5C2084-2469-403B-8645-4B6473B791E2&did=26fe8d0d-cb20-4730-89fd-e1f1300925e1

You need the other ones too?

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