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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by majamajic(m): 4:56pm On Sep 24, 2019
ThierryJay:


VVD did not win European best award, what he won was the UEFA player of the year. The European footballer of the year is also the same as the Ballon D'or. The voting for UEFA POTY is made by a much smaller pool of voters. That may be one reason for the difference. And it is not always automatic that the winner of UEFA POTY will win FIFA Best or Ballon D'or.

In fact, sometimes the winner of FIFA Best may not win Ballon D'or. That does not mean either is undeserved, it may just indicate that the competition is really close. As it is, VVD may still win the Ballon D'or in December, even though I think Messi deserves it more.

yes if the Winner did well with his national team which Messi didn't too ,
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by trilacos: 4:56pm On Sep 24, 2019
Angelfrost:
Sigh... Conspiracy??! Who writes these dumb and silly articles??!...

The players mentioned did not single handedly win anything. If Liverpool and Dutch strikers and midfielders hadn't been top notch, we won't even be talking about Van Dijk by now...

How hard can it be to get it into your thick skulls that the award in question is an individual player award irrespective of the team??!... That a team fails to win a top trophy doesn't mean an outstanding player should be snubbed for a less outstanding player whose team won trophies... Do we need to teach y'all the basics of football, and football awards??!... Haba!!!
football has to do with team,is messi the one defending,goalkeeping etc issokay.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Nobody: 4:58pm On Sep 24, 2019
movingclouds:

That one doesn't know what he's saying.. Trust me, guys like this only have hatred for Messi.. They support teams like Chelsea, ManU and Liverpool.. They wouldn't say the same about Scholes, Lampard or Gerard
We must always give them reality checks cool cool
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by sammhi(m): 4:59pm On Sep 24, 2019
Martinez39:
There is no conspiracy. Messi deserves that award.
How ? What did Messi achieve this year ? Or is the award is now for being skillful ?
What impact did Messi had on his Barca team or national team ?
VVD and CR7 did more.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by fokusmind: 4:59pm On Sep 24, 2019
What can we do? They will tell us to keep wailing
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by verifiablefacts: 5:00pm On Sep 24, 2019
solmusdesigns:
cool

Its about who fifa members vote for
Thank you,voted by coaches and captains.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by tunnamaniah(m): 5:05pm On Sep 24, 2019
Men, i dont know about this year, but that 2010 own still dey do me somehow till date. That award belongs to Wesley Sneijder
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by maik99(m): 5:06pm On Sep 24, 2019
majamajic:


u don't need to tell some people everything

so Messi won the Copa or World cup ?


he even perform better than Messi in national team outings , according to u he did better in Europe than Messi

now what was the measurement used ?

By reasonable practice the "FIFA best men's player" should go to the most outstanding player of the year
I'm sure you'll not be willing to wager your reputation on the popular falsehood that VVD was better than Messi last season

All the Ballon d'ors that Messi has won have been purely based on Individual brilliance
It is when it's Ronaldo and others turn that we start hearing "he won this, he won that"..They should probably create a FIFA best team award or best team player award
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Icon79(m): 5:07pm On Sep 24, 2019
Actually, ALL of Cristiano Ronaldo's awards were all gifts. If Ballon d'Or is given to the real best players in the world then ONLY Messi would've been winning it since 2009. The fact of the matter is, Messi has been the best player in the world for the past 10 years … not giving him all the Ballon d'Or over the years simply because didn't win the UCL has been the most unfair thing ever. And individual award should be based solely on individual performance not on how many trophies the teams win.

And by the way, FIFA has only changed the Ballon d'Or rules once in their history - when they extended the voting deadline in 2013. And their goal on that voting extension was to help Cristiano Ronaldo win the award. As a matter of fact, even Sepp Blatter openly confessed it himself. Read all about it here (unlike you, I don't make stuffs up):

https://www.espn.com/soccer/news/story/_/id/1621866/fifa-extend-ballon-dor-voting-deadline-%E2%80%93-report


O pari

NORSYK:
Fifa always put Messi ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo. At least three of the Messi's awards are gifts. Every year the rules keep changing simply to favour Messi. If it's not team performance, then it's a so-called individual performance. When Messi is nowhere, then the awards go to someone else. This is just robbery!

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by maik99(m): 5:09pm On Sep 24, 2019
tunnamaniah:
Men, i dont know about this year, but that 2010 own still dey do me somehow till date. That award belongs to Wesley Sneijder

Even Sneidjer was not individually more outstanding than Messi was that year
The same situation is replaying this year..Messi outperforms everyone else...VVD has a sizeable contribution to "team success" and the media makes him look like the best thing that happened to football

The players and coaches clearly massed behind Messi including VVD himself
It's the media that don't know shit that voted for VVD..at least he got them fresh headlines and stories last season

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by trilacos: 5:10pm On Sep 24, 2019
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ThierryJay:


Henderson played great against Barca in the SF second leg even though he was injured, he still created the first assist that Origi scored. He was better than VVD in that game.
okay,VVD should come from the backline to come and assist.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Olowola2: 5:11pm On Sep 24, 2019
Ogun Idile Ni...They Need To Buy Twenty Ram With Four Elephant, And 29 Corpse Of Player That Playing In Hell League One To Wipe The Curse..........
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by maik99(m): 5:12pm On Sep 24, 2019
sammhi:

How ? What did Messi achieve this year ? Or is the award is now for being skillful ?
What impact did Messi had on his Barca team or national team ?
VVD and CR7 did more.

What impact did Cr7 have on Juve?
I'd like to reason with people's arguments here but they are mostly clouded with sentiment

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by MrFly(m): 5:14pm On Sep 24, 2019
sexiestharam:
Conspiracy indeed. Messi is the GOAT and should win all awards in football till the day he retires. Period!
this award was introduced in 2016 and Ronaldo won it twice b4 Modric usurped him in 2018 only for Messi to win it this year and u and ur likes are screaming GOAT. NANSENSE!
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Chrisdolz1997: 5:16pm On Sep 24, 2019
Wait wait wait so you mean to tell meVVD of last season played better then Ramos when he won 3 champions league in a row or better then vidic
Look don't be mad at nothing, Messi deserved it period, English media just was hyping shit
And wonder how it's an achievement for VVD in reaching the final and not winning it but when Messi finishes second or third it's a failure undecided

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by tfash96(m): 5:17pm On Sep 24, 2019
NaijaOlododo:
Hmmmmm, I dont think Messi deserve the award. His performance in the year under review is below par compare with what he is known for. The earlier FIFA and its panel of judges consider other roles for this feat, the better for team coercion o. Even little in d street know say Messi no deserve am.
na Mbappe deserve am abi or Harry Kane
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Angelfrost(m): 5:19pm On Sep 24, 2019
trilacos:
football has to do with team,is messi the one defending,goalkeeping etc issokay.

Lol... With all due respect, you haven't really said anything contrary.

Football itself is a team sport, but specific awards are meant for outstanding players in a team... Van Dijk was outstanding in his position, but he pales greatly in significance to Messi's output in Barca last season... To claim otherwise, means you didn't actually watch football last season.

You can't name any player that did better than Messi overall last season... I care not about trophies, cos one player doesn't single handedly win trophies. We are talking overall individual contribution to the beautiful game. I'm not a fan of individual players, but Messi owned it last season hands down.

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by AlgazaliAmfani: 5:20pm On Sep 24, 2019
54 goal ,22 assist in 58 games .won laliga ,reach champions league semi final , cops de rel final, and won bronze in copa America.
he must be sick to mention conspiracy.

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Odualomo1: 5:21pm On Sep 24, 2019
Almor333:
Sneider was robbed
He was not even the best player in his team, so how can he become the best player in the world?. Google is your friend ooo

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Jaytecq(m): 5:22pm On Sep 24, 2019
Jayslicky:
shocked

Messi has twice gained from the injustice done against the Dutchs, van dijk deserves this year player of the year, he was outstanding but FIFA has always been in Messi's favour.

Define Favour
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by tfash96(m): 5:22pm On Sep 24, 2019
Devops:
You're a big fool. No player born of a woman was better than Messi last season. Do you what it means to be 5times UEFA player of the week. Nigga was on some God sh!!t. His goal won UEFA best goal another one was nominated for puskas. His numbers were monstrous. Go watch cricket if you don't understand football
grin grin U bad o.. Cricket grin grin

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Jaytecq(m): 5:24pm On Sep 24, 2019
flowx:
Yes!

VVD should have won it!

Very painful as favorite manipulates his way to win it.
all i see in this picture is a Team effort.

For Abraham's sake its Individual Award not a team award brother

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Jaytecq(m): 5:25pm On Sep 24, 2019
emmabest2000:
Messi knows that he can never withstand the bully of people on Twitter and other social media telling him to make a change to another club and prove that he is a talented player that’s why he always keep silent ,


The fear of failure is what keep messi in bac grin
6-5

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Chrisdolz1997: 5:25pm On Sep 24, 2019
Una remember sneidjer 2010 abi but when Ronaldo win am for 2013 over Ribery Una no talk all this scientific and research and conspiracy
Move on pained Ronaldo fans

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Rumxy(m): 5:25pm On Sep 24, 2019
LA LIGA IS ALWAYS FAVOURED

In 2010, Sneijder won the treble with inter and was the best player for inter Milan that year, reached the world cup final winning 4 man of the match awards, silver ball and bronze boot. He also won the best midfielder and top assist provider in the champions league that year. Yet he didn't even make the first 3 spots of FIFA best.

In 2018, Modric another attacking midfielder won the champs league with Real Madrid. In his case he was an integral member of the squad but not the best Madrid player in that tournament unlike sneijder who was the driving force for his team. He also won the best midfielder in Uefa and golden ball at the world cup reaching the world cup final too.

Overall, Modric's stats were inferior to Sneijder's stats but Modric won the World best while Sneijder didn't make the Final 3. In both cases, there was clear double standard.

In conclusion, I think the bias is generally towards LA liga (real n barca) against other leagues. Both Messi and Ronaldo have benefitted from this. The same Ronaldo also fell victim last year. If he hadn't left Madrid, he would have won last year, the same way Messi won Sneijder in 2010 because Ronaldo and Messi's individual stats were far superior to Modric and Sneijder respectively. The same shit has repeated again this year.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Happydave(f): 5:27pm On Sep 24, 2019
ThierryJay:
Which conspiracy? VVD did not take Liverpool to champs league glory. Liverpool won by virtue of notable performances from Origi, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Allison in the SF and Final. Mane and Salah in the QF. VVD's outstanding performance was in the second round against Bayern munich. How do you now think this is better than Messi's outstanding performances in the SR, QF and First leg of the SemiFinal. The La Liga that Messi won, he was the main protagonist, so when you combine all of these individual factors, Messi takes the cake, except you are being unobjective.

Many players have won the award without winning any major trophy in the year they won it, case in point, Ronaldinho in 2004, Figo in 2001, Zidane in 2003, CR7 in 2013.

The FIFA Best player is first and foremost, an individual award, and in all honesty, VVD and Messi's performances over the past season are still miles apart.

You did not raise this issue when CR7 won over Ribery on the basis of individual performances even though Ribery won all the most important trophies. I submit that you are just a pained CR7 fan.
That is the plain truth.Mercy deserved the award.

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Odualomo1: 5:32pm On Sep 24, 2019
tunnamaniah:
Men, i dont know about this year, but that 2010 own still dey do me somehow till date. That award belongs to Wesley Sneijder
He was not even inter Milan best player how can he be the best in the world? . Think nowww

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Sep 24, 2019
Premiumwriter:
Me no dey watch ball sha
why did you visit this thread?
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by grandstar(m): 5:32pm On Sep 24, 2019
The problem Messi. The voters love him die.

It seems you have Messi, Ronaldo and then the rest.

Ronaldo seems to have blown his chances by snubbing the awards last year. I'm sure they felt humiliated.

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Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Jaytecq(m): 5:34pm On Sep 24, 2019
Angelfrost:
Sigh... Conspiracy??! Who writes these dumb and silly articles??!...

The players mentioned did not single handedly win anything. If Liverpool and Dutch strikers and midfielders hadn't been top notch, we won't even be talking about Van Dijk by now...

How hard can it be to get it into your thick skulls that the award in question is an individual player award irrespective of the team??!... That a team fails to win a top trophy doesn't mean an outstanding player should be snubbed for a less outstanding player whose team won trophies... Do we need to teach y'all the basics of football, and football awards??!... Haba!!!

Nice one Bro.

The day i discover some people who comment here dnt knw crap about football, i dnt rply most of dem again, Most of dem sell spare parts and home-movie at Alaba, they all go about with Sentiments and love of individuals...... imagine one was telling me ytday dat Kante is best but dey dnt consider him.
Re: Fifa Best Player Awards : Is There A Conspiracy Against Dutch Players? by Premiumwriter: 5:35pm On Sep 24, 2019
justbusy:
why did you visit this thread?
I wan c wetin the happen na

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