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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 4:51pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


if other people came to your village. built subsidiaries of whyte owned companies and other infrastructure from resources in your village with the help of wh:yte owned corporation but don't give you jobs even low paying jobs and are always condescending towards you, how would you and other hundreds of thousands of villages feel?

These are not "other people" they are black and African too.

This is what I'm saying. What do you mean by condescending? I'm sorry!

They have better experience and knowledge and you expect them to sit around and accept mediocrity?
Funny how you all want African countries to advance but you don't want to do what it takes. You want to think the same.

Anybody who tries to rock the boat is accused of thinking they are better.

Stay the way you are now. Crabs in a barrel.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by omoharry(f): 4:51pm On Jan 09, 2020
vRendoh:


They remember very well your grand fathers sold their brothers and sisters ( their fathers and mothers ) into slavery for cheap price. That is the story they knew. Your story here blames the white man (for buying the products?).
The experience is sad. We must tell the actual story and apologise.
Our forefathers sold their brother's and sisters into slavery !
These slave were not just selected among different clans and sold by their various chiefs to the white man. That was not how it happened .according to history, in the ancient time, there were various inter-ethnic clashes among various kingdoms and it is only ideal as at that time that any kingdoms or prisoner captured will be treated as a commodity and sold.Sometimes among wealthy men in various villages as domestic or commercial laborers...but not seen as slave. Some of these prisoners were fortunate to be treated nicely and became a part of the house hold of their captures.An example is Jaja of Opobo who was sold locally into slavery and he one day became the king of Opobo. So it goes in either ways, is either you are sold locally or across the Atlantic.
Though there were some pockets of Kidnapping from various villages by poachers who saw how lucrative the slave trade was but It has never been heard that Villagers will sell their own or condone such thing in their villages.However, they will not bling an eye if people from another kingdom they saw as enemies were sold. .
My great great great grand uncle was a high chief during his time. He secretly sold some of the children of the village to poachers.Though there was suspicion but the people were too afraid to confront him because he was powerful and very fetish, so they could not question him.
However, It took a joint venture from his five brothers to battle with him until he was banished from the village.The people he sold were never heard from again.It was until 1994 that his descendant whom still retained their fathers name were reunited back to the family and their village.They knew their fore-bearer was banished but they did not know why. My grand mother use to sing about the event back in the 80s whenever she is engage with her domestic shores.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by dochenaj: 4:52pm On Jan 09, 2020
Never read I a well and truthfully crafted article as this in a long while.

I have always found it disconcerting that a significant number of African - American children are raised by single mothers who have to work multiple jobs to provide for their children because the father's are not taking responsibility.

That further widens the generational decline in morals, values, and discipline.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:52pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 4:54pm On Jan 09, 2020
kongolo:
What has our correspondence got to do with America dropping an atomic bomb on Africa?Are we now treading on presumptions?Didn't south Africa have A-bombs during her apartheid regime and the US pressured them to disarm their nukes when the ANC took over?

You said foreigners tried to extinct Africa. If they wanted to they could have done so long ago as they're more technologically advanced.

Don't dare blame foreigners. The problems of africa are Africans.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by AnthonyAk(m): 4:54pm On Jan 09, 2020
The lack of wisdom is the cause of this sentiment. If you goto university most of those walls are torn down. Educated people are used to interacting with other races. Never have these issues at work.

Perhaps it's cause of how I 'look'
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by zigzagluv: 4:56pm On Jan 09, 2020
copy and pasta write up, sometin e copied from somewhere
TheEnygma:
Very good write up.....i only hope it makes front page.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:57pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:58pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


you and WorWorBoy are truly zombies...

whyte committed the biggest crime by using free labor for over 400 years to build their countries and continents and robbing the whole world.
If the whites were slaves serving the black man,do you think slavery would end till this moment?,do you think the killing of twins would end?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Daisy17: 4:59pm On Jan 09, 2020
ogbuefi677:

I'm sorry if I'm wrong ma but I have relatives who were born and brought up in the US and that's all they talk about whenever we're together.
My apologies ma

I am sorry if I came across as harsh. I am African and I hate the fact that we perpetuate the myth that African Americans are inferior to us. In every group there are always bad eggs and it always unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. Billionaire Robert F. Smith who pledged to pay off student loan debt for an entire graduating class is African American. Tyler Perry who just opened a movie studio is African American. These are just a few of the African Americans who are doing great. There are a lot of African Americans who are thriving but you do not hear about them. When your relatives disparage African Americans tell them to broaden their horizons and be more open-minded. We Africans are not better than African Americans. There have been so many Africans who have been arrested for wire fraud and Medicaid fraud. Is it because they are white-collared crimes, we think these fraudsters are better than drug dealers?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 5:01pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by RPirez: 5:03pm On Jan 09, 2020
emwye:
Dude, this statement is completely unnecessary. I cannot understand how you would put down your own kind soo much and expect things to get better for your kids? Please think hard about how your mindset actually is not helping at all. Gosh I’m disappointed.

You're disappointed cuz I'm being objective, truthful and realistic? We can never move forward without identifying the problems. angry
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
sisipelebe:
That baby mama thing is so rampant , you will see a 23 year old girl with 4 kids for different men, same thing applicable to the guys. African Americans are disgrace to the black race. They're very lazy, even me as a lady I'm stronger than their guys. They keep complaining about how the white ppl maltreat them look at them with disdain. Me as a typical African lady this white people don't treat me like trash even with my accent. If you see the way I was treated in a US bank, my head begin swell. But the African Americans keep complaining of racism.
Is the same thing in SA, I was chatting with a SA, she told me she's 21 with 3 kids, like it's a normal thing, I just kept my cool but deep down I was shocked
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 5:05pm On Jan 09, 2020
tot:



I also think we shouldn't judge an entire group of people until they've walked a mile in their shoes.

If only we could all do that.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 5:08pm On Jan 09, 2020
nlPoster:


Let me ask though, do African immigrants actually fail in their endeavors?


Daisy17:


Yes they do. There are many African immigrants who live on welfare/benefits despite being able-bodied.

Did they fail at anything or they simply utilized the benefits available to them?

I'm asking because almost every able bodied African immigrant, works. But of course every assistance helps.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jan 09, 2020
Stevecovey:
@op okpa042, the african americans suffered a deep emotional wound. Its still a fresh wound. Their grandparents are still alive who fought evil jim crow & segregation laws with the civil rights movement in the 60's. Those stories are still repeated in their homes.

That generation will have to completely die out and more time pass before a large portion of the population 'forget' & release themselves from the sense of victimhood.

I believe africans should look on that whole situation with compassion and not brash judgement. Its not so easy to overcome a mental conditioning of being inferior & unworthy. Your actions will always follow that thought pattern.
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kongolo(m): 5:10pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


You said foreigners tried to extinct Africa. If they wanted to they could have done so long ago as they're more technologically advanced.

Don't dare blame foreigners. The problems of africa are Africans.
You are not enligtened on the history of africa or simply playing dumb.Africa was ravaged for hundreds of years,first of her people then her resources.
Any insurrection during the period of her resource ravage was met with utmost violence.From German-Namibia-to King Leopold Congo-then to Kenyas' Mau Mau.What about Rhodesia and the atrocities that occured there?Or Ethiopia that was illegally annexed by Italy and the rest of the world including the league of nations turned a blind eye to?Same thing happened to Rwanda in 1994 but look at how she has risen from the ashes today.What about the proxy wars that were fought in Africa between the US and USSR in the 60s,70s and 80s?
Yet here we still are.Striving for our betterment despite all odds

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


Africans tribes already had names they called twins taiwo and kehinde e.t.c.

slavery never ended. they only changed the name...

it was called slavery then colonialism and now neo-colonialism...

Africans never killed twins..

maybe some separation surgeries were failing and whyte people decided to say they were killing twins
OK,the world you are in now,if blacks were the "dominant" race,would the world be better than it is today?What do we contribute to this world order than shouting racism.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people. I wish they can go into extinction.
This is exactly why this topic was created, to educate people like you, but you refuse to be educated.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 5:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


they are black and African too but from another continent.

They have better experience and knowledge and I expect them to teach their fellow "black and Africans", not have superiority complex and make the indigenes feel so bad that they had to change their names from their ethnic names to American sounding names and in 2020 very few liberians understand their ethnic languages..

for African countries to advanced, they have to re-create knowledge in their ethnic languages and culture and AA's or Americo liberian shouldn't be part of those undermining African culture or indigenes culture.

Why are you saying they have a superiority complex? Are you projecting?

This is the same case in Nigeria abeg. Nigerians come from abroad and some of them are killed off cos of insecure Africans and some of them that criticise and try to shake things up are are accused of being self-hating and thinking they are better.

A confident person cannot be made to change their ethnic name and culture.

When Africa was colonised, why did they reject the technology and accept religion?
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
Through love, unity and peace, the chinese stood up to withdraw as inferior, and sit and reason together to become superior as a nation. Hence the self dependence, stiffen penalties of the law, all round inventions, infrastructures, agricultural sufficiencies, herbs and roots dependence, home work/economic activities, internal monetary circulation, high birth rate, international spying and hijacking of knowledge, traditional language and education, etc.... Buhari is trying imitate this pattern but won't be easy because of indifferences and glaring nepotism. Black race need to reason together and act uprightly.

codemaniacs:


china is not under indirect rule.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by RaptorX: 5:14pm On Jan 09, 2020
At the end of the day Africans need to get over the illusion that whites love them more than AA's.
They might tolerate you more because they see you as less threatening, but all that fawning and kissing up to whites in Africa especially on NL that you people do is also one of the cause of the rift when you bring that attitude to America. At least that was one of their complaints from monitoring predominantly AA online forums.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by uzoexcel(m): 5:15pm On Jan 09, 2020
intelligent write up and a good read
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 5:15pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kongolo(m): 5:16pm On Jan 09, 2020
emddi:
If the whites were slaves serving the black man,do you think slavery would end till this moment?,do you think the killing of twins would end?
The killing of twins was not a wide spread practice amongst ethnicities in Nigeria.Only one ethnic group practiced that ritual,the Ibibios.Mary Slessor simply used that killing of twins narrative to gain publicity/fame for herself

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by softsoul22(m): 5:16pm On Jan 09, 2020
The African American ideology has been bought right from slave trade period, they only reason one way and don't want to diversify their thinking towards any other means in order to make impact in their neighborhood. African emigrants reasoning is beyond that and its channeled on how to make it and start a new life back home.
In other word I have this LG H-900 Smart phone with finger, 64gig 4glt no fault. 07062641000
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 5:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 5:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
emwye:
I started reading the article thinking it had a lot to offer until I realized it was just another write up largely based on anecdotes and lacks substance. Yet my fellow naija brethren have also been quick to commend the efforts of the writer without offering much needed criticism as to how myopic this mindset is. I agree, we need to come together as the writer concluded but with the attitude and lack of empathy displayed in the write up, I completely understand why you might not get along with African Americans.


With the user name okpa (I googled it), I doubt the writer meant the article to be taken seriously.

Nothing wrong with the food, but obviously the write up is meant to be light hearted.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 360command: 5:19pm On Jan 09, 2020
sisipelebe:
That baby mama thing is so rampant , you will see a 23 year old girl with 4 kids for different men, same thing applicable to the guys. African Americans are disgrace to the black race. They're very lazy, even me as a lady I'm stronger than their guys. They keep complaining about how the white ppl maltreat them look at them with disdain. Me as a typical African lady this white people don't treat me like trash even with my accent. If you see the way I u treated in a US bank, my head begin swell. But the African Americans keep complaining of racism.
I get what you mean but the fact is you are still a nigga to the white Americans. Dont think your accent saves you.. Your face still looks like them. The bank you talked about, a Nigerian doctor went to a bank to withdraw money, the white lady refused to pay him because he had lots of money. She called the police on the Nigerian doctor.. You see, that white lady saw him as a nigga whether you from Africa or Caribbean, you still a nigga. So dont feel so fly as you were treated positively in the bank. These white are FOREVER evil. I rather fuvck with a black American than the white.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jan 09, 2020
kongolo:
The killing of twins was not a wide spread practice amongst ethnicities in Nigeria.Only one ethnic group practiced that ritual,the Ibibios.Mary Slessor simply used that killing of twins narrative to gain publicity/fame for herself
but If the Whiteman never came,we wouldn't have the privilege of interacting live despite we might be millions of kilometres away.We would still have being in animal kingdom

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 5:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
vaca1:

100% correct

That's incorrect.

We should learn to disagree without feeling offended.

The first part is correct- namely, Africans generally prefer mingling with other Africans

The second part is not 100% correct- since Africans do live in predominantly AA neighborhoods

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