AreaFada2:

Lol. A commoner (possibly from Middle Belt originally) quoting a man obsessed with Benin.

I am from Ibadan

I have no history with middle belt.

Iamgrey5:
Going through history of Awolowo?

Who do you think Nominated the first woman to be a senator in Nigeria?

You must think you are talking to one of those people on Nairaland?

Actually Awolowo's intolerance and effect on my relatives. We do not lick balls or worship godfathers in my part of Yorubaland. They are all our subjects no matter their political position.

politicsng:
You purposely created this thread to cause wahala

It was his attempt to create division.

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Iamgrey5:
I am from Ibadan

I have no history with middle belt.

They all say they are from Yorubaland. All those immigrants from middle belt. I know them.

AreaFada2:

Actually Awolowo's intolerance and effect on my relatives. We do not lick balls or worship godfathers in my part of Yorubaland. They are all our subjects no matter their political position.

I don't care about your sub story

Just stay out of Yoruba issues.

Iamgrey5:
. https://sheroes.ng/tributes/2018/07/29/senator-wuraola-esan-1909-1985/

Noted but stop repeating it.

I have read this and most times it keeps coming from you.

Is she related to Yemi-Esan?

MelesZenawi:

Noted but stop repeating it.
I have read this and most times it keeps coming from you.
Is she related to Yemi-Esan?

No. we are not related.

AreaFada2:

Lol. A commoner (possibly from Middle Belt originally) quoting a man obsessed with Benin.

Not interested in bini issues but just blocking any history that wants to breathe or rears it's head...

Iamgrey5:
No. we are not related.

well, you and Seyi Awolowo (Awolowo grandson) has same characteristics and behaviour.

Iamgrey5:
I don't care about your sub story

Just stay out of Yoruba issues.

Unless you can also get people like Ooni of Ife to back out of Yoruba issue.

If you cannot, you also have no chance of getting me out of Yoruba issues.

By the way trying to impress with education is childish. People with earliest contact with Europeans and educated over 500 years ago.

That Nigeria has the singular misfortune of producing the worst, most divisive and corrupt politicians since 1914 till date means one cannot use political positions to impress me.

I do not even tell people of my relatives currently in political positions. Nothing to be proud of.

They have all failed Nigeria woefully.

AreaFada2:

Unless you can also get people like Ooni of Ife to back out of Yoruba issue.

If you cannot, you also have no chance of getting me out of Yoruba issues.

So Oni of ife is Bini?

Iamgrey5:
So Oni of ife is Bini?

Read my posts from years ago. I cannot spoon feed you guys every time.

In essence I have as much stake in Yorubaland as any other genuine Yoruba person. I am not even talking of immigrants from Middle belt.

Ctorch:
The ranking of kings or Obas in Yoruba land is a topic that has caused series of controversies as to who is the most powerful Yoruba King in Nigeria between the Ooni and the Alaafin of Oyo.
In a report, the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo, declared the answer to that question, that the Ooni of Ife remains the number one monarch in Yoruba land and should be given the honour as the number one paramount ruler in the Yoruba culture.

There are many Obas in Yoruba land ruling various Kingdoms, towns and even villages. For instance, the Olubadan of Ibadan is the traditional ruler of Ibadan, the Oba of Lagos is seen as a first class king but rules in Lagos, and so on. These respected monarchs are often seen as custodians of the Yoruba culture and people, and represent the gods.

This post will list the ranking of first class traditional rulers in the Yoruba Empire as listed by the Alake of Egbaland. He identified ego and pride as the sole reason behind the disunity among Yoruba traditional rulers and people in Yoruba land, and called for peace for the progress of the Yoruba speaking people.


Below is a list of the ranking of five principal monarchs in Yoruba land according to their order of superiority.


1. Ooni of Ife

The Ooni of Ife is the most powerful king in Yoruba land. The current Ooni of Ife is Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi . According to the Alake of Egbaland, the Ooni is the first of the five principal Obas in Yorubaland just like the Sultan of Sokoto is the highest ruler in the northern part of Nigeria. This is because his supremacy dates back to the origin of the Yoruba tribe. He is also one of the most influential figures in Nigeria and he recently married Queen Morenike Naomi Oluwaseyi, a prophetess.


2. Alaafin of Oyo
He is the second in line in the ranking of Yoruba monarchs in Nigeria, Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III was born 15 August 1938 and he is the current Alaafin, or traditional ruler, of the Yoruba state of Oyo and righful heir to the throne of its historic empire. His dynasty dates back to the old Oyo empire which recognizes him as the emperor of the Oyo empire. He is among the list of the richest Yoruba king in Nigeria


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3. Oba of Benin
Some say that the Oba of Benin, or Omo N’Oba, is the highest traditional ruler in Nigeria as he wields influence over the Edo people and is a popular figure in Nigeria. He heads the historic Eweka dynasty of the Great Benin Empire. It is also said that the Yorubas in Nigeria descended from the Benin people, hence the tittle Oba is being used to mean a king. The title of Oba was first created by Oba Eweka I, Benin Empire’s first ‘Oba’, who ascended power between 1180 and 1300. His son, grandson and now his great-grandson, Ewuare II were traditional rulers of Benin in modern-day Nigeria.


4. Alake of Egbaland
Fourth on the list of ranking of obas in Yorubaland is the Alake of Egbaland . He is the paramount Yoruba king of Egba, a city in Abeokuta, Ogun State, southwestern Nigeria. Egba consists of Egba Alake, Owu kingdom rule by the Olowu of Owu Kingdom, Oke-Ona and Gbagura. He was the one who cleared the air concerning how the monarchs in Yoruba land should be ranked starting from the Ooni of Ife to the Awujale of Ijebuland.


5. Awujale of Ijebuland
He is the least on the list of 5 powerful obas in Yoruba land. His kingdom, Ijebu (also known as Jebu or Geebu) was a Yoruba kingdom in pre-colonial Nigeria. It was formed around the fifteenth century. According to legend, its ruling dynasty was founded by Obanta of Ile-Ife. The current Awujale of Ijebuland is Sikiru Kayode Adetona.

There is a recent tussle as to who is superior between the Oba of Lagos and the Ooni of ife (Yoruba Emperor). This should not be so as history backs the Ooni as the most superior paramount ruler of the Yoruba speaking people.


Credit: NigeriaInfopedia

Rubbish

AreaFada2:
Their madness don start again. Who let these people out of Aro?

I rank highly only the following Obas after Oba of Benin: Oba of Lagos, Olowo of Owo, Olu of Wari, Obi of Agbor and Obi of Onitsha,

I respect Alaafin for representing a former Empire just like Benin and the Awujale for respecting himself and not talking anyhow. Then the Ologbo for exposing liars on Oduduwa.

The first Oba of benin came from a particular source

Mraphel:
The first Oba of benin came from a particular source

Which is Yoruba.

MelesZenawi:




Is it a crime for you to call the name of the senator?

Must it be google issue?

The guy is a liar.

Franca Afegbua is a Nigerian beautician and politician who represented Bendel North in the Nigerian Senate in 1983. Elected as a National Party of Nigeria (NPN) senator, she was the first elected woman senator in Nigeria. Afegbua was born in Okpella, Edo State.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Franca Afegbua - Wikipedia

MelesZenawi:





Not interested in bini issues but just blocking any history that wants to breathe or rears it's head...

Have you not see the recent broadcast from your leader Nnamdi Kanu claiming that Igodomigodo land and people were Igbos? One of his mission is to unite eastern Igbos with what he called Edo and Delta Igbos, he blamed Ohaneze not to have done this in the past.

The truth is, Benin is the beautiful bride every one wants to associate with. The Yorubas are celebrating their links with Benin and now Nnamdi Kanu is claiming the entire Edo/Benin for the Igbos.

What else can a Benin person do other than to be proud of his heritage.

I was just saying to myself that I have not seen a ranking of Yoruba Obas on Nairaland this August, and the month is about to end. Thanks for this.

Yorubas always want to lump our king, omo no oba nedo ukwakpolopolo as a Yoruba man.... Lol

They are just attache, if you stage them on their own words
To bring prove, they will began insulting thesame oba they claim to be yoruba because they are so frustrated they cant prove their own words



Yorubas its free to claim us, but we will always draw the actual historical line


Which says the oba if benin never had relationships with ife people tilll 1914

samuk:


Have you not see the recent broadcast from your leader Nnamdi Kanu claiming that Igodomigodo land and people were Igbos? One of his mission is to unite eastern Igbos with what he called Edo and Delta Igbos, he blamed Ohaneze not to have done this in the past.

The truth is, Benin is the beautiful bride every one wants to associate with. The Yorubas are celebrating their links with Benin and now Nnamdi Kanu is claiming the entire Edo/Benin for the Igbos.

What else can a Benin person do other than to be proud of his heritage.

I don't listen to Nnamdi kanu neither am I in any of his social media pages.


But one thing is certain and clear, Igbos have no connective history with binis. Igodomigodo is a moonlight tale...and weak one at that.

History can't be erased in few years just as the case of Bini. I have in time past and now see binis answering Tunde, Olusegun, Akerele, Rotimi, Esan, Yemi same as Yorubas...this is history not tales. Bini has their king as oba likewise many Yoruba territories..the reason Bini is seen as yorubas...this is history not tales...Igbos has her kings as Obi/Igwe/Eze/Okpala-ukwu , names like Ifeanyi, obi, Ada, Ossai, osadebe and none of these are been answered by binis let alone Yorubas....then tell me where is the history or even the slightest rooted connectivity...


We should always say the truth at all times. Moreover from what I gathered the said kanu referred to esans and not binis...

Binis are Yorubas but Igbos history to Bini remains a made up story with no link but simply business trips and the rest.

gregyboy:
Yorubas always want to lump our king, omo no oba nedo ukwakpolopolo as a Yoruba man.... Lol

They are just attache, if you stage on their own words
To bring prove, they will began insulting thesame oba they claim to be yoruba because they are so frustrated they cant be prove their own words



Yorubas its free to claim us, but we will always draw the actual historical line


Which says the oba if benin never had relationships with ife people tilll 1914

Stop this divisive statement.

There is nothing wrong if oba of Bini is ranked along obas in Yoruba land...

Bini and Yorubas are same people tied by blood.

RedboneSmith:
I was just saying to myself that I have not seen a ranking of Yoruba Obas on Nairaland this August, and the month is about to end. Thanks for this.

Is anything wrong with the ranking?

MelesZenawi:



Stop this divisive statement.

There is nothing wrong if oba of Bini is ranked along obas in Yoruba land...

Bini and Yorubas are same people tied by blood.

The desperate foolish igbo man who think he change the hands of time, lol


I forsee you having ethnic cleansing on your people for this your act of desperation, while you're here trying to cut ties

Nnamdi who is more renowned than your full ancestors is trying to join igbi ties with benins

Something tells me you're fulani pretending to be igbo

MelesZenawi

MelesZenawi:



I don't listen to Nnamdi kanu neither am I in any of his social media pages.


But one thing is certain and clear, Igbos have no connective history with binis. Igodomigodo is a moonlight tale...and weak one at that.

History can't be erased in few years just as the case of Bini. I have in time past and now see binis answering Tunde, Olusegun, Akerele, Rotimi, Esan, Yemi same as Yorubas...this is history not tales. Bini has their king as oba likewise many Yoruba territories..the reason Bini is seen as yorubas...this is history not tales...Igbos has her kings as Obi/Igwe/Eze/Okpala-ukwu , names like Ifeanyi, obi, Ada, Ossai, osadebe and none of these are been answered by binis let alone Yorubas....then tell me where is the history or even the slightest rooted connectivity...


We should always say the truth at all times. Moreover from what I gathered the said kanu referred to esans and not binis...

Binis are Yorubas but Igbos history to Bini remains a made up story with no link but simply business trips and the rest.

Igbos history in benin is made up..... Lol and that of yoruba is not..... Lol



All bid to make yoruba tribe to share closeness with benin and rebuke others


Why do cowards join their adversaries in a feast if they cant fight them

gregyboy:



Lol, atttache, desperate attache


You should be claiming ties with fulanis they have your mother's in their farms impregnated them unknowingly by the Yoruba husband they are trainingy a fulani son


Yorubas and fulani are tied beyound � blood

They are divinely tied as masters and slaves

Severely, I am not Yoruba so I can even join to batch/hit them hard but everything have a reason and that is because of historical connectivity that made me believe that Bini and Yorubas are same people.

gregyboy:



Igbos history in benin is made up..... Lol and that of yoruba is not..... Lol



All bid to make yoruba tribe to share closeness with benin and rebuke others


Why do cowards join their adversaries in a feast if they cant fight them

You didn't even refute any of my claims meaning they are all true.

MelesZenawi:


Severely, I am not Yoruba so I can even join to batch/hit them hard but everything have a reason and that is because of historical connectivity that made me believe that Bini and Yorubas are same people.

Lol, you're not yoruba, you're an afonja from middle belt, you're not a pure yorubas, pure yorubas wont tag oba of benin, yoruba or any benin

MelesZenawi:


Severely, I am not Yoruba so I can even join to batch/hit them hard but everything have a reason and that is because of historical connectivity that made me believe that Bini and Yorubas are same people.

This is what i hate about you, self decite....

I have screenshot of this, as long as your remain in nairaland you will flop and your identity as a Yoruba muslim will be blown open, i will open a thread to bash you......

And even report your account,


Am a benin man, if you can deniel your fathers homeland, for just a mere argument, i wonder what you can do on real ground

gregyboy:




Lol, you're not yoruba, you're an afonja from middle belt, you're not a pure yorubas, pure yorubas wont tag oba of benin, yoruba or any benin

I don't have anything to do with yorubas or middle belt or whatever it is called.

As I stated earlier, I am seriously committed to nuking any bini-igbo narratives to the mud..

In time past, I used to defend binis very well that many even was thinking I am Bini and refer to me as Bini but binis themselves are not good people.


They created a Facebook page called great Bini that the only discussion they have there is Igbo...oozing out bikes upon biles..... re-writing histories in broad day light.


So we have decided to put all histories truthfully on track. They are not good people.

Moreover and truthfully Bini-Yoruba narratives has loads of truth in them critically studying them.

gregyboy:



This is what i hate about you, self decite....

I have screenshot of this, as long as your remain in nairaland you will flop and your identity as a Yoruba muslim will be blown open, i will open a thread to bash you......

And even report your account,


Am a benin man, if you can deniel your fathers homeland, for just a mere argument, i wonder what you can do on real ground

Go through my post, Yorubas no even like me one bit...Lol

But I always state the truth as it is. Gone are the days we dabble in all these Bini-Yoruba issues supporting binis while binis themselves are on another campaign on media's against ndigbo.

Not again.

MelesZenawi:



I don't listen to Nnamdi kanu neither am I in any of his social media pages.


But one thing is certain and clear, Igbos have no connective history with binis. Igodomigodo is a moonlight tale...and weak one at that.

History can't be erased in few years just as the case of Bini. I have in time past and now see binis answering Tunde, Olusegun, Akerele, Rotimi, Esan, Yemi same as Yorubas...this is history not tales. Bini has their king as oba likewise many Yoruba territories..the reason Bini is seen as yorubas...this is history not tales...Igbos has her kings as Obi/Igwe/Eze/Okpala-ukwu , names like Ifeanyi, obi, Ada, Ossai, osadebe and none of these are been answered by binis let alone Yorubas....then tell me where is the history or even the slightest rooted connectivity...


We should always say the truth at all times. Moreover from what I gathered the said kanu referred to esans and not binis...

Binis are Yorubas but Igbos history to Bini remains a made up story with no link but simply business trips and the rest.

There few points you don't get and I will explain.

1. How can Benin be part of Yoruba empire when Benin predates the word Yoruba. Yoruba like Igbo are names that are not up to 150 years old, whilst Benin has been recorded in history for over 600 years. If your argument is that Yoruba was part of the old Benin empire, you would have made a point. A son can not be older than his father. Historically, the name Benin is hundreds of year older than Igbo and Yoruba.

2. Nnamdi Kanu recognises the role ancient history or historical links play in the life of a nation. There is no great nation on earth today without a celebrated ancient historical link. America celebrates her link with Europe and modern China, Japan etc have ancient histories to celebrate. Even modern European countries celebrate their links with ancient Greek and Rome.

3. When the Yoruba elites decided to create a unified Yoruba race after centuries of different tribes killing each other, they created Ife as the cradle of their civilisation, they tried to link her to Saudi Arabia, when that failed, they tried Egypt, when there were no historical records to back it up, they came closer home to Benin, Ife history without Benin to support it is less than 150 years, this is why the link with Benin is very important to the Yoruba irrespective of what they say here on Nairaland.

4. The Igbos had the same problem of historical linkage to ancient civilisations, Zik understood this and came up with the Onitsha Benin historical link but modern Igbos like yourself who doesn't understand the significance of such links where upset with Zik. The Igbo try to link themselves to Israel but suffered the same faith as the Yoruba Saudi Arabia link because of lack of supporting historical documents. Nnamdi Kanu understand that a new Biafra needs such a link with a credible ancient civilisation and he is now following Zik's example of claiming Benin as an Igbo land. Igbo/Biafra without link to such ancient civilisations as Benin will be an historical paperweight.

4. Other developed nations make money from their ancient histories and historical sites, plus the prestige such history brings to the nation.

5. You said Nnamdi Kanu was referring to Esan and not Benin, you are naive if you think Esan and Benin are not the same people. There is no Esan town that was not founded by the Benins. The Esan are more closer to Benin than an Imo man to Anambra man yet you all refer to yourselves as Igbos while trying to make a distinction between Benin and Esan.