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Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 3:34pm On Sep 29, 2020
SHIRK (Associating Others With Allah SWT)

The greatest of all major sins in Islam is Associating Partners with Allah (SWT).
Shirk is of two kinds:
1. To make someone equal to Allah or to worship something or someone else, such as stone, tree, the sun, the moon, a prophet, a saint etc. This is surely the greatest Shirk.
Allah (SWT) says:
[4:48]
"Surely, Allah does not forgive setting up of partners with Him, and He forgives (any other sin) lesser in degree for whom He wills. And whoever sets up partners with Allah certainly fabricates a horrible sin."
[31:13]
"And (recall) when Luqman said to his son as he was advising him: ‘O my son, do not set up partners with Allah. Verily, associating partners with Allah is a very grave injustice.’"
[5:75]
"The Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), is (nothing) but a Messenger (neither a god nor a son of God nor His partner). Many Messengers have indeed preceded him, and his mother was a paragon of truth (a saintly person). Both (were mortal creatures as they) used to eat food. (O Beloved!) Observe how clearly We explain the Revelations for their (guidance), but again observe how (in spite of that) they are turning away (from the truth)!"
There are numerous verses in the Qur'an warning against associating others with Allah (SWT).

Hence, if one ascribes partners to Allah and dies a polytheist, he will definitely be an inhabitant of the fire.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) asked his companions: Shall i not inform you about the three greatest sins? They said: Yes, Messenger of Allah. Then he said: Associating others with Allah and disobedience to parents... And deliberate perjury and giving false evidence...

2. Hypocrisy in one's deeds. Allah (SWT) says:
[18:110]
" ...So, whoever hopes to meet his Lord should do good deeds, and must not associate any partner in the worship of his Lord.’"
The meaning is that one should not act for the sake of ostentation but should sincerely act for the sake of Allah alone.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) said: I warn you against the lesser polytheism. His companions asked him: And what is the lesser polytheism, Messenger of Allah? He replied: It is showing off. On the Day when Allah will reward people for their deeds, he will say to them: Go to those to whom you showed off your deeds on earth for praise and see if they will reward you.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) again said: There might be one who fasts and gained nothing of his fasting but hunger and thirst, and there might be one who prays to God all night and gains nothing of his prayers but wakefulness.

Allah SWT says:
[25:23]
"And (then) We shall turn to the deeds they (presumably) did (in life) and shall make them scattered dust particles."
This means that the deeds they had done for the sake of anything or anyone other than Allah will receive no reward and will be exactly like the scattered dust that can be seen floating with the beams of sunlight.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) was reported to have said:
On the Day of Judgement, groups Therefore ate to be led towards the Garden till they get too close to it, smell it fragrance, look at its palaces and at what God has prepared for its inhabitants. Then a call will be made to turn them away from it, since they have no portion in it, and they will turn away with so great sorrow and regret that neither those before them nor those after them ever turned away with. They will say:
Our Lord! If you had admitted us to the fire before showing us what we have seen of the reward you have prepared for your followers, it would have been easier for us. Then Allah SWT will say:
That is Exactly what I intend for you. You used to commit great sins against My will in privacy, but when you were among people you were humble toward them, showing them your good deeds, quite opposite to what you gave to Me in your hearts. You feared people and did not fear Me. You venerated people and did not venerate Me. Your renunciation was for people but not for Me. Therefore, today I make you taste My grievous punishment besides withholding, My abundant reward from you.

A man asked Allah's Messenger SAW: What is salvation? He replied:
Do not decieve Allah. The man asked: How can one deceive Allah? The Prophet replied:
Through doing a deed bidden by Allah and His Messenger, but intended for the sake of someone other than Allah SWT. Guard yourself against showing off, because that is a form of lesser polytheism.

On the Day of Judgement, the hypocrite will be called, above the heads of people, by four names: Hypocrite! Deceitful One! Faithless One! Loser! Your deeds are wasted, and your reward is cancelled. Since we do not have any reward for you, go and collect your reward from the one for whose sake you did your deeds, impostor.

Al- Fudail bin Ayyad said:
To refrain from doing something for the sake of people is hypocrisy and to do something for their approval is polytheism, whereas sincerity lies in God's protection against both. O Allah! Protect us from these two and forgive us!

SOURCE: KITABUL KABA'IR.

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by NeoWanZaeed(m): 3:40pm On Sep 29, 2020
You need to write the shirk people do in our society..

..
to make them understand..

. Taking ruqiya as work bowing and prostration and kneeling belonging to a sect supporting and defending sects soccery and magic.. jalabi blasphemy waging war against the government asmaulah wa sifat..

so many
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 4:30pm On Sep 29, 2020
NeoWanZaeed:
You need to write the shirk people do in our society..


..

to make them understand..


.
Taking ruqiya as work
bowing and prostration and kneeling
belonging to a sect
supporting and defending sects
soccery and magic.. jalabi
blasphemy
waging war against the government
asmaulah wa sifat..


so many

noted.

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by motayoayinde: 5:46pm On Sep 29, 2020
mhmsadyq:
SHIRK (Associating Others With Allah SWT)

The greatest of all major sins in Islam is Associating Partners with Allah (SWT).
Shirk is of two kinds:
1. To make someone equal to Allah or to worship something or someone else, such as stone, tree, the sun, the moon, a prophet, a saint etc. This is surely the greatest Shirk.
Allah (SWT) says:
[4:48]
"Surely, Allah does not forgive setting up of partners with Him, and He forgives (any other sin) lesser in degree for whom He wills. And whoever sets up partners with Allah certainly fabricates a horrible sin."
[31:13]
"And (recall) when Luqman said to his son as he was advising him: ‘O my son, do not set up partners with Allah. Verily, associating partners with Allah is a very grave injustice.’"
[5:75]
"The Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), is (nothing) but a Messenger (neither a god nor a son of God nor His partner). Many Messengers have indeed preceded him, and his mother was a paragon of truth (a saintly person). Both (were mortal creatures as they) used to eat food. (O Beloved!) Observe how clearly We explain the Revelations for their (guidance), but again observe how (in spite of that) they are turning away (from the truth)!"
There are numerous verses in the Qur'an warning against associating others with Allah (SWT).

Hence, if one ascribes partners to Allah and dies a polytheist, he will definitely be an inhabitant of the fire.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) asked his companions: Shall i not inform you about the three greatest sins? They said: Yes, Messenger of Allah. Then he said: Associating others with Allah and disobedience to parents... And deliberate perjury and giving false evidence...

2. Hypocrisy in one's deeds. Allah (SWT) says:
[18:110]
" ...So, whoever hopes to meet his Lord should do good deeds, and must not associate any partner in the worship of his Lord.’"
The meaning is that one should not act for the sake of ostentation but should sincerely act for the sake of Allah alone.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) said: I warn you against the lesser polytheism. His companions asked him: And what is the lesser polytheism, Messenger of Allah? He replied: It is showing off. On the Day when Allah will reward people for their deeds, he will say to them: Go to those to whom you showed off your deeds on earth for praise and see if they will reward you.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) again said: There might be one who fasts and gained nothing of his fasting but hunger and thirst, and there might be one who prays to God all night and gains nothing of his prayers but wakefulness.

Allah SWT says:
[25:23]
"And (then) We shall turn to the deeds they (presumably) did (in life) and shall make them scattered dust particles."
This means that the deeds they had done for the sake of anything or anyone other than Allah will receive no reward and will be exactly like the scattered dust that can be seen floating with the beams of sunlight.

Allah's Messenger (SAW) was reported to have said:
On the Day of Judgement, groups Therefore ate to be led towards the Garden till they get too close to it, smell it fragrance, look at its palaces and at what God has prepared for its inhabitants. Then a call will be made to turn them away from it, since they have no portion in it, and they will turn away with so great sorrow and regret that neither those before them nor those after them ever turned away with. They will say:
Our Lord! If you had admitted us to the fire before showing us what we have seen of the reward you have prepared for your followers, it would have been easier for us. Then Allah SWT will say:
That is Exactly what I intend for you. You used to commit great sins against My will in privacy, but when you were among people you were humble toward them, showing them your good deeds, quite opposite to what you gave to Me in your hearts. You feared people and did not fear Me. You venerated people and did not venerate Me. Your renunciation was for people but not for Me. Therefore, today I make you taste My grievous punishment besides withholding, My abundant reward from you.

A man asked Allah's Messenger SAW: What is salvation? He replied:
Do not decieve Allah. The man asked: How can one deceive Allah? The Prophet replied:
Through doing a deed bidden by Allah and His Messenger, but intended for the sake of someone other than Allah SWT. Guard yourself against showing off, because that is a form of lesser polytheism.

On the Day of Judgement, the hypocrite will be called, above the heads of people, by four names: Hypocrite! Deceitful One! Faithless One! Loser! Your deeds are wasted, and your reward is cancelled. Since we do not have any reward for you, go and collect your reward from the one for whose sake you did your deeds, impostor.

Al- Fudail bin Ayyad said:
To refrain from doing something for the sake of people is hypocrisy and to do something for their approval is polytheism, whereas sincerity lies in God's protection against both. O Allah! Protect us from these two and forgive us!

SOURCE: KITABUL KABA'IR.






THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE OF ISLAM.

JAZAKALLAH.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 7:51pm On Sep 29, 2020
mhmsadyq:
SHIRK (Associating Others With Allah SWT)

The greatest of all major sins in Islam is Associating Partners with Allah (SWT).
Shirk is of two kinds:
1. To make someone equal to Allah or to worship something or someone else, such as stone, tree, the sun, the moon, a prophet, a saint etc. This is surely the greatest Shirk.

Hence, if one ascribes partners to Allah and dies a polytheist, he will definitely be an inhabitant of the fire.

Mohamed is always associated with Allah in Islam. So, Islam has failed in this.

You cannot believe ONLY in Allah and become a Moslem. You cannot say a shahada without mentioning Mohamed. You must follow Mohamed to be a true Moslem. You must mention Mohamed DAILY in your prayers. And so on ....

If all these do not amount to associating Mohamed as a partner with Allah then tell us what is.

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 8:08pm On Sep 29, 2020
motayoayinde:

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE OF ISLAM.
JAZAKALLAH.
Wa iyakum!

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 8:10pm On Sep 29, 2020
sagenaija:


Mohamed is always associated with Allah in Islam. So, Islam has failed in this.

You cannot believe ONLY in Allah and become a Moslem. You cannot say a shahada without mentioning Mohamed. You must follow Mohamed to be a true Moslem. You must mention Mohamed DAILY in your prayers. And so on ....

If all these do not amount to associating Mohamed as a partner with Allah then tell us what is.
grin
sagenaija:


Mohamed is always associated with Allah in Islam. So, Islam has failed in this.

You cannot believe ONLY in Allah and become a Moslem. You cannot say a shahada without mentioning Mohamed. You must follow Mohamed to be a true Moslem. You must mention Mohamed DAILY in your prayers. And so on ....

If all these do not amount to associating Mohamed as a partner with Allah then tell us what is.

grin
Sense no go kill you.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by qwertyboss(m): 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2020
sagenaija:


Mohamed is always associated with Allah in Islam. So, Islam has failed in this.

You cannot believe ONLY in Allah and become a Moslem. You cannot say a shahada without mentioning Mohamed. You must follow Mohamed to be a true Moslem. You must mention Mohamed DAILY in your prayers. And so on ....

If all these do not amount to associating Mohamed as a partner with Allah then tell us what is.
Islam never fails, you in particular failed to observe the point you are trying to make but stick to a section that incompletely described your point.

what you are trying to establish your point with is "Allahumma Salli ala sayyidina Muhammad, wa ala ali Muhammad wasallim..."

you deliberately/blindly omit the part that said "Kama salllaita ala Ibrahim (ABRAHAM) wa ala ali Ibrahim (Abraham) innaka hameedun majeed"

meaning: " oh Allah send your prayers to Muhammad and his household/family the way you sent your prayers to Abraham and his family/household ..."

so of what benefit is it to you for trying to contend on what you lack knowledge of and trying to tarnish the innocent position of the OP?

if you Mean the verses that are being recited in the holly Quran daily, again you are making a great mistake because Muhammad name was mentioned in the Quran few times compare to how the name of Mary Jesus Christ where mentioned, so what are you saying!

go and read the Islamic version of how Mary give birth to Jesus Christ and compare it to the biblical version, my brother the Quran more decently narrate the incident.

this exact way the Muslims pray was there as a command in the bible, but what most Christians church do today is to go and sing and dance,,,
the Yoruba churches Infact are masters in that....

my brother stay your lane nake I stay my lane, there's nothing bad about that...
a Muslim is not the one going to judge a Christian and vice-versa, let's respect each others religion and live peacefully, if everyone truly believes he is the one on the right track why border others?
in Islam there is " no compulsion in religion (laa ikraha fiddeen) "
my brother you are being misinformed about Islam by fanatics and extremists...

please read this carefully and understand that you are on your own, we are on our own!.

"
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ

Unto you is your religion, and unto me is my religion.
"

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 8:31am On Sep 30, 2020
qwertyboss:

my brother stay your lane nake I stay my lane, there's nothing bad about that...

Unto you is your religion, and unto me is my religion.
"
Which lane are you talking about?
Nairaland lane?

Someone posts something on Nairaland and you're talking about staying on a lane.

Please tell us how any of the things you wrote there relate to what I wrote.

The guy's post is about shirk. I noted how Mohamed is ALWAYS associated with Allah in Islam. Are you saying that it's ok since it is Mohamed? Or are you turning a blind eye to the reality of things in Islam?
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by qwertyboss(m): 10:38am On Sep 30, 2020
sagenaija:

Which lane are you talking about?
Nairaland lane?

Someone posts something on Nairaland and you're talking about staying on a lane.

Please tell us how any of the things you wrote there relate to what I wrote.

The guy's post is about shirk. I noted how Mohamed is ALWAYS associated with Allah in Islam. Are you saying that it's ok since it is Mohamed? Or are you turning a blind eye to the reality of things in Islam?
you are arguing about something you lack knowledge of!
Associating someone in worship with Allah is like worshipping something else while you are a Muslim....

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 11:26am On Sep 30, 2020
qwertyboss:

you are arguing about something you lack knowledge of!
Associating someone in worship with Allah is like worshipping something else while you are a Muslim....
Can you do your acts of worship to Allah, like prayers, without ever mentioning mentioning Mohamed?

If you are truthful to yourself you know what the answer is.

To worship is to honor or show reverence or devotion for someone.

Do you show any of these to Mohamed on a daily basis? Be truthful to yourself, even if you don't want to admit it here.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 3:17pm On Sep 30, 2020
sagenaija:

Can you do your acts of worship to Allah, like prayers, without ever mentioning mentioning Mohamed?

If you are truthful to yourself you know what the answer is.

To worship is to honor or show reverence or devotion for someone.

Do you show any of these to Mohamed on a daily basis? Be truthful to yourself, even if you don't want to admit it here.

Oga, you no be Muslim nau... Why you like to dey poke nose for wetin you no understand, even say you read am. Reading and undertanding na two different tins.

From your reactions you no understand the Kalimatu Shahadah, yet, you wan teach Muslims Kalimatu Shahadah. You no understand the relationship between Allah and the Prophet, yet, you wan teach Muslims the relationship between Allah and the Prophet. na wa ooo for you!

You for ask questions on the post, instead of making categorical explanation of wetin you only read, but no understand.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 3:51pm On Sep 30, 2020
mhmsadyq:


Oga, you no be Muslim nau... Why you like to dey poke nose for wetin you no understand, even say you read am. Reading and undertanding na two different tins.

From your reactions you no understand the Kalimatu Shahadah, yet, you wan teach Muslims Kalimatu Shahadah. You no understand the relationship between Allah and the Prophet, yet, you wan teach Muslims the relationship between Allah and the Prophet. na wa ooo for you!

You for ask questions on the post, instead of making categorical explanation of wetin you only read, but no understand.

Oga, you wey be Mooslime explain am to us nau!

Can you see how low you guys get? You are asked simple question and you won't answer. So that's the best you can come up with the above.

Answer this simple questions: Can you say the shahada without mentioning Mohamed's name? If not, why?
Can you say your daily prayers WITHOUT mentioning Mohamed? If not, why?
If these don't amount to shirk kindly explain.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 4:04pm On Sep 30, 2020
sagenaija:
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Oga, you wey be Mooslime explain am to us nau!

Can you see how low you guys get? You are asked simple question and you won't answer. So that's the best you can come up with the above.

Answer this simple questions: Can you say the shahada without mentioning Mohamed's name? If not, why?
Can you say your daily prayers WITHOUT mentioning Mohamed? If not, why?
If these don't amount to shirk kindly explain.

If you ready to learn, i go Know.

For now:

I dey shake my head for Your mata.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 7:41pm On Sep 30, 2020
mhmsadyq:

If you ready to learn, i go Know.
For now:
I dey shake my head for Your mata.
Have you ever heard of the Umayyads and the Abbasids?
Maybe you should if you haven't.
And if you have, you should see how the tussle between these competing groups eventually led to the CREATION of Islam.
When you know more about your religion you may eventually find out that you have been sold a dummy.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by mhmsadyq(m): 8:27pm On Sep 30, 2020
sagenaija:

Have you ever heard of the Umayyads and the Abbasids?
Maybe you should if you haven't.
And if you have, you should see how the tussle between these competing groups eventually led to the CREATION of Islam.
When you know more about your religion you may eventually find out that you have been sold a dummy.

I still dey shake my head for your mata.

Wetin concern "associating partners with Allah" and Umayyads and Abbasids?
You wan turn the topic to dinner ba?

Chop your food alone!
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 9:14pm On Sep 30, 2020
mhmsadyq:


I still dey shake my head for your mata.

Wetin concern "associating partners with Allah" and Umayyads and Abbasids?
You wan turn the topic to dinner ba?

Chop your food alone!
That's what happens when you don't know your history.
If you did you would know the connection.
I'm not changing the topic. I'm just pointing you to the answer.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by Sheunma: 9:40pm On Sep 30, 2020
Surah Al-Ahzab ( Quran 33:36)

It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.

Looks like Allah all ready has a befitting partner in Mohammed.
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 7:51am On Oct 01, 2020
Sheunma just pointed us to another portion of the Koran that again shows us very CLEARLY that Islam associates Mohamed with Allah. Right from the Koran.

Of course Moslems have a way of 'magically' reinterpreting koranic passages. And they would twist this one to fit into what they want.

But to the objective person it is what it says. Moslems MUST obey Allah PLUS Mohamed. Obedience is not to Allah alone.

We can begin to develop a list:
1. No one can become a Moslem without a pledge to BOTH Allah and Mohamed.
2. No Moslem can say the shahada without joining Mohamed in it.
3. No Moslem can pray without the mention of Mohamed.
4. No Moslem can obey [b]ONLY[/b]b Allah, he must also obey Mohamed.
5. Moslems honor, revere and elevate Mohamed above any other human.

If all these do not show that Moslems associate Mohamed with Allah then what then is shirk?
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 9:20am On Oct 01, 2020
Masters of Lust - Allah and His Prophet Mohamed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlRsSGFSPI
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by motayoayinde: 8:05pm On Oct 01, 2020
sagenaija:
Masters of Lust - Allah and His Prophet Mohamed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlRsSGFSPI

POOR QUALITY VIDEO, MADE BY A QUACK ISLAMOPHOBE (Christian Prince), WITH A DISGUSTING TOPIC.

BEFORE ACCUSING MUSLIMS OF SEXUAL WHATEVER, YOU'LL HAVE TO REMOVE THE LOG IN YOUR EYES FIRST.

WHILE MUSLIMS INSIST ON DRESSING MODESTLY, CHRISTIANS INSIST ON BUM SHORTS AND MINIS EVEN TO CHURCH.

WHILE MUSLIMS ARE FIERCELY OPPOSED TO GAY MARRIAGES, SOME CHRISTIAN CHURCHES SOLEMNIZE THEM.

WHILE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES REMAIN THE MOST SEXUALLY MODEST, CHRISTIAN MAJORITY COUNTRIES ARE THE ORIGINATORS AND DEFENDERS OF ALL KINDS OF SEXUAL DEBAUCHERY.

DON'T FORGET HOW THE WEST FLOODED THE WORLD WITH THEIR PORNOGRAPHY SHAME IN THE PAST, TODAY WHAT THEY EXPORT IS DILDOS AND SEX DOLLS TO EARN MONEY.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, YOUR OYIBO BROTHERS HAVE LONG ABANDONED CRUSADES FOR CHRIST. THEIR CRUSADES NOW ARE FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE LGBTQ WORLDWIDE.
"GOD'S OWN COUNTRY" IS ALSO AMONG THE COUNTRIES CHAMPIONING THIS.

SHOW ME ONE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY COUNTRY THAT'S NOT SEXUALLY DEPRAVED.

SO IT SEEMS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT MUHAMMAD(saw) ACTUALLY THOUGHT WAS SEXUAL DECENCY.

THE REAL MASTERS OF LUST ARE THE "HOLY GHOST FATHERS" AND THEIR FOLLOWERS

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 8:35am On Oct 02, 2020
motayoayinde:


POOR QUALITY VIDEO, MADE BY A QUACK ISLAMOPHOBE (Christian Prince), WITH A DISGUSTING

You are missing something.

The issue is not what some followers of a religion are doing. The issue is WHAT THE BOOKS OF THE RELIGION TEACHES followers to do.

Are what he said in Islamic books? Yes!
So, what is your fuss about?

Turning to what some followers of a faith are doing rather than what the faith prescribes and outlines is simply a DIVERSIONARY TACTIC.

Focus on the facts. Address the facts. Not the messenger.

Btw, Christian Prince is a certified professional in Islamic studies. So he is not just talking from mere guesswork. Also, he is an Arab, so he cannot be accused of not knowing the Arabic like many Moslem apologists accuse people of. He played videos of one of your Sheikhs. Those are facts and evidence to buttress his claim.

Again, the real issue is whether his message is right and not the person. Are his FACTS correct or not?
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by motayoayinde: 9:30am On Oct 02, 2020
sagenaija:

You are missing something.

The issue is not what some followers of a religion are doing. The issue is WHAT THE BOOKS OF THE RELIGION TEACHES followers to do.

Are what he said in Islamic books? Yes!
So, what is your fuss about?

Turning to what some followers of a faith are doing rather than what the faith prescribes and outlines is simply a DIVERSIONARY TACTIC.

Focus on the facts. Address the facts. Not the messenger.

Btw, Christian Prince is a certified professional in Islamic studies. So he is not just talking from mere guesswork. Also, he is an Arab, so he cannot be accused of not knowing the Arabic like many Moslem apologists accuse people of. He played videos of one of your Sheikhs. Those are facts and evidence to buttress his claim.

Again, the real issue is whether his message is right and not the person. Are his FACTS correct or not?

YOU'RE BUSTED ON THIS ONE, YOU'VE NOTHING TO SAY ABEG.

BTW, CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TYPED THIS:

"Focus on the facts. Address the facts. Not the messenger".

WHAT A SHAME! DO YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE ON NAIRALAND HAS BEEN SPENT DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE?

IGNORING THE BEAUTIFUL MONOTHEIST MESSAGE OF ISLAM TO LAMBAST THE NOBLEMESSANGER(saw)?

SPEWING HATE MESSAGES AGAINST THE MESSANGER TO DIVERT PEOPLE FROM THE UPRIGHTNESS AND PURE WORSHIP THAT ISLAM CALLS TO?

IT'S A GOOD THING YOU'RE COMING AROUND THOUGH.

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Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 10:52am On Oct 02, 2020
motayoayinde:


YOU'RE BUSTED ON THIS ONE,
Does you know what "Busted" means?

Anyhow watch this short video:
Safia Sunni Muslim Met Lord Jesus.... Lovely Testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ0t_eocss
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by sagenaija: 10:53am On Oct 02, 2020
Safia Sunni Muslim Met Lord Jesus.... Lovely Testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ0t_eocss
Re: Associating Others With Allah SWT (shirk) by motayoayinde: 11:55am On Oct 02, 2020
sagenaija:

Does you know what "Busted" means?

Anyhow watch this short video:
Safia Sunni Muslim Met Lord Jesus.... Lovely Testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ0t_eocss

OFF POINT.
BUT IF VIDEOS OF CONVERSIONS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO COMPETE IN, YOU'LL BE INUNDATED AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT.

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