If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to forgive sins?", The obvious response would be Allah only!
AND
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to admit people into paradise"? , The obvious response still would be Allah only!

HOWEVER:
Evidence from the Shahada:
1. We know that it is impossible for anyone now to become a Muslim WITHOUT reciting the shahada pledging a belief in both Allah and Mohammed.

2. Evidence from the Qur'an
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Observations:
1. Muslims are enjoined by Allah to have faith in Mohammed
2. Mohammed has the power to forgive sins of Muslims AND
3. save them from painful hellfire
4. HOWEVER, It seems UNLIKE Allah, Mohammed can only forgive SOME of Muslim's sins.

This is also confirmed in the next Quranic verse
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

We can see two personalities who can forgive sins
1. Allah
2. Mohammed the Messanger

3. Evidence from the Hadith
To make it more clear, we can check the Hadiths (the hadith is long but you can read the full text in www.sunnah.com

Sahih Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.' ..
...
They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, but you'd better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and the future had been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will come to me and I will ask the permission of my Lord, and I will be permitted (to present myself) before Him. ..... O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will then raise my head and praise my Lord with certain praises which He has taught me, and then I will intercede. Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise.

The story starts from Adam, then to Noah, then to Abraham, then to Moses and eventually to Jesus who would ALL reject the assignment because they are UNFIT for it.

It is amazing that even though Jesus didn't have any excuse for being UNFIT, he recommends Mohammed as the one that is perfect for the assignment.

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

QUESTIONS:
1. Since we can see that Mohammed can forgive Sins like Allah AND he is the one to Admit Muslims into paradise; What are the explanations you have that Mohammed is not a PARTNER with Allah?
2. What are the kinds of sins Mohammed cannot forgive?


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SMH. Arabian fairytales.

Islam built a skyscraper of lies and fabrications! It never crossed their mind that internet would UNVEIL the rot that was meant only for the strong Islamic Cleric!

SMH!

TenQ:
Islam built a skyscraper of lies and fabrications! It never crossed their mind that internet would UNVEIL the rot that was meant only for the strong Islamic Cleric!

SMH!

Hmmmm.

TenQ:
Islam built a skyscraper of lies and fabrications! It never crossed their mind that internet would UNVEIL the rot that was meant only for the strong Islamic Cleric!

SMH!

The major problem with Islam is that Mohammed is the only witness of the things he claimed to see and hear.

Even his character didn't bear him any witness.

HisSplendor:


The major problem with Islam is that Mohammed is the only witness of the things he claimed to see and hear.

Even his character didn't bear him any witness.

The worst of the heathens shouldn't do some of the things Mohammed did...like flirting with and finally marrying the young wife of his adopted son.
And when even the heathen Arabs complained, he fabricated some ayahs for it in the Qur'an.

Mohammed's followers accused him of stealing a red velvet cloth. He quickly fabricated a Qur'an as a rebuttal!

How Muslims accept the man as the best of mankind is unbelievable!

TenQ:

The worst of the heathens shouldn't do some of the things Mohammed did...like flirting with and finally marrying the young wife of his adopted son.
And when even the heathen Arabs complained, he fabricated some ayahs for it in the Qur'an.

Mohammed's followers accused him of stealing a red velvet cloth. He quickly fabricated a Qur'an as a rebuttal!

How Muslims accept the man as the best of mankind is unbelievable!

It seem the cat eat the tongues of the Mohammedans!
LOL!

I am on my way to the mosque o!

Indeed without LIES and DECEPTION , Islam dies.

Adherents of Islam must be made to lack knowledge but encouraged to do endless repetition of La illah il la Lah.

Hey Potential Thief TenQ

My joy knows no bound with this post. This is all I’ve been asking for - an hardworking TenQ that listens to my calls for more topics.


So when are you forging your next topic?

TenQ:
Indeed without LIES and DECEPTION , Islam dies.

Adherents of Islam must be made to lack knowledge but encouraged to do endless repetition of La illah il la Lah.

I have a very honest question for you actually: since you’ve been doing your so called evangelism, who have you convinced about the “lies and deceit” of Islam and his now a Christian on this forum.

Just name one person please. Because if there’s anyone whose brain is properly placed in his skull that listens to your rabid and uninspiring rant, they’ll just laugh and move on with their day. You can mention them anyways.

Of all things I’ll do in life is to worship a god that can’t forgive without shedding blood? God forbid !

LegalWolf:


I have a very honest question for you actually: since you’ve been doing your so called evangelism, who have you convinced about the “lies and deceit” of Islam and his now a Christian on this forum.

Just name one person please. Because if there’s anyone whose brain is properly placed in his skull that listens to your rabid and uninspiring rant, they’ll just laugh and move on with their day. You can mention them anyways.

Of all things I’ll do in life is to worship a god that can’t forgive without shedding blood? God forbid !

Why is that your business!?
I am not complaining!

Your understanding of sin is terribly miotic: no wonder, your project did not see anything wrong with having sex with a prepubescent girl playing with her dolls!

Answer the question or keep QUIET!

So many things Islam doesn't want honest Muslims to know is being unveiled! Is this why you are annoyed?

LegalWolf:
Hey Potential Thief TenQ

My joy knows no bound with this post. This is all I’ve been asking for - an hardworking TenQ that listens to my calls for more topics.


So when are you forging your next topic?

When a person is so stupid to understand that he doesn't matter at all in whether TenQ post or not post a thesis on NL!

Deal with the revelation you have received yesterday and today!

TenQ:

Why is that your business!?
I am not complaining!

Your understanding of sin is terribly miotic: no wonder, your project did not see anything wrong with having sex with a prepubescent girl playing with her dolls!

Answer the question or keep QUIET!

So many things Islam doesn't want honest Muslims to know is being unveiled! Is this why you are annoyed?

Lol, annoyed? And I am having this good fun with you? LOL

TenQ as long as you ask me questions, I will not keep quiet. Nope I will always have fun with it and enjoy myself in your mention as much as I can. Of course, subject to you acting rationally.

If you say it is none of my business how you do your evangelism, that may be true but I just want you to think. Maybe a form of self-reflection: if you are doing something that is not achieving the stated purpose, does it not make sense if you switch tactics. A wise man once said:

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different result - Don't you think this is true?

LegalWolf:


Lol, annoyed? And I am having this good fun with you? LOL

TenQ as long as you ask me questions, I will not keep quiet. Nope I will always have fun with it and enjoy myself in your mention as much as I can. Of course, subject to you acting rationally.

If you say it is none of my business how you do your evangelism, that may be true but I just want you to think. Maybe a form of self-reflection: if you are doing something that is not achieving the stated purpose, does it not make sense if you switch tactics. A wise man once said:

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different result - Don't you think this is true?

You've actually showed how like a brute mule you are.
Are you pleading that I stop posting!?
Sorry!
I am not posting because of LegalWolf, I post to create awareness of the true Islam in both Christians and Muslims.
I call Muslims specifically because they are forbidden by Allah to ask questions: so I ask it for them.
LOL!

I am not in anyway complaining, thank you

TenQ:

You've actually showed how like a brute mule you are.
Are you pleading that I stop posting!?
Sorry!
I am not posting because of LegalWolf, I post to create awareness of the true Islam in both Christians and Muslims.
I call Muslims specifically because they are forbidden by Allah to ask questions: so I ask it for them.
LOL!

I am not in anyway complaining, thank you

How would I plead that you stop when I specifically said I will never be quiet if you ask me questions? Does that make sense to you?

Modified: Potential Thief TenQ, do you ask before you think or think after asking? I asked for a change of tactics no where did I even insinuate you should stop posting. Is conscience pricking you?

Fire your ammunitions abeg! When next are you forging your next topic? That is the koko of the matter that we are dealing with now

LegalWolf:


How would I plead that you stop when I specifically said I will never be quiet if you ask me questions? Does that make sense to you?

Modified: Potential Thief TenQ, do you ask before you think or think after asking? I asked for a change of tactics no where did I even insinuate you should stop posting. Is conscience pricking you?

Fire your ammunitions abeg! When next are you forging your next topic? That is the koko of the matter that we are dealing with now

That is what you are getting at. Didn't you say I've been repeating the same thing with no result?

You are irrelevant to whether I post or not post a topic.

Do you want me to make you relevant!?

You are not even close to being worthy! Please take the crumbs and left overs if you please: Oliver Twist always asking for more!

TenQ:

That is what you are getting at. Didn't you say I've been repeating the same thing with no result?

You are irrelevant to whether I post or not post a topic.

Do you want me to make you relevant!?

You are not even close to being worthy! Please take the crumbs and left overs if you please: Oliver Twist always asking for more!

I will ask for more. Till I die, I will always ask for more. I am a Muslim, a Fulani and a Lawyer, so you expect me to be ambitious!

Modified: TenQ attention to details will help you in life. I was only asking about the mode of your so-called evangelism. And when I went further, it was about tactics I said. You cannot even think to know which tactics I am making reference to. But since it is not my business, I will keep quiet.

As if you think I have no knowledge of Jewish law. I would have commended certain portions of the Mishnah but you are not Jew. Please defend your 'God' and we are waiting for what you have to say 'Mr. Prosecution'?

LegalWolf:


I will ask for more. Till I die, I will always ask for more. I am a Muslim, a Fulani and a Lawyer, so you expect me to be ambitious!

Modified: TenQ attention to details will help you in life. I was only asking about the mode of your so-called evangelism. And when I went further, it was about tactics I said. You cannot even think to know which tactics I am making reference to. But since it is not my business, I will keep quiet.

As if you think I have no knowledge of Jewish law. I would have commended certain portions of the Mishnah but you are not Jew. Please defend your 'God' and we are waiting for what you have to say 'Mr. Prosecution'?

Are you getting information about Islam from me?

Now, whether you agree with my interpretation or not is not my business.

People are reading: Christians , Muslims and even Atheists.

I don't have power to convert any human being. I only have the power to share knowledge! This, I've done and will continue to do!

So, LegalWolf, you are irrelevant and immaterial to these posts.

Sorry!

Abridged Version:

Lukuluku69:

And another one!

Guess what? I will answer them but break it down. One question at a time.

If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to forgive sins?", The obvious response would be Allah only!
AND
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to admit people into paradise"? , The obvious response still would be Allah only!

HOWEVER:

We can see two personalities who can forgive sins
1. Allah
2. Mohammed the Messenger

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

QUESTIONS:
1. Since we can see that Mohammed can forgive Sins like Allah AND he is the one to Admit Muslims into paradise; What are the explanations you have that Mohammed is not a PARTNER with Allah?
2. What are the kinds of sins Mohammed cannot forgive?

FULL VESRSION:
@ Lukuluku69: Take your pick
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to forgive sins?", The obvious response would be Allah only!
AND
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to admit people into paradise"? , The obvious response still would be Allah only!

HOWEVER:
Evidence from the Shahada:
1. We know that it is impossible for anyone now to become a Muslim WITHOUT reciting the shahada pledging a belief in both Allah and Mohammed.

2. Evidence from the Qur'an
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Observations:
1. Muslims are enjoined by Allah to have faith in Mohammed
2. Mohammed has the power to forgive sins of Muslims AND
3. save them from painful hellfire
4. HOWEVER, It seems UNLIKE Allah, Mohammed can only forgive SOME of Muslim's sins.

This is also confirmed in the next Quranic verse
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

We can see two personalities who can forgive sins
1. Allah
2. Mohammed the Messanger

3. Evidence from the Hadith
To make it more clear, we can check the Hadiths (the hadith is long but you can read the full text in www.sunnah.com

Sahih Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.' ..
...
They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, but you'd better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and the future had been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will come to me and I will ask the permission of my Lord, and I will be permitted (to present myself) before Him. ..... O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will then raise my head and praise my Lord with certain praises which He has taught me, and then I will intercede. Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise.

The story starts from Adam, then to Noah, then to Abraham, then to Moses and eventually to Jesus who would ALL reject the assignment because they are UNFIT for it.

It is amazing that even though Jesus didn't have any excuse for being UNFIT, he recommends Mohammed as the one that is perfect for the assignment.

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

QUESTIONS:
1. Since we can see that Mohammed can forgive Sins like Allah AND he is the one to Admit Muslims into paradise; What are the explanations you have that Mohammed is not a PARTNER with Allah?
2. What are the kinds of sins Mohammed cannot forgive?

TenQ:
Abridged Version:


If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to forgive sins?", The obvious response would be Allah only!
AND
If you ask any Muslim the Question:
"Who has the power to admit people into paradise"? , The obvious response still would be Allah only!

HOWEVER:
Evidence from the Shahada:
1. We know that it is impossible for anyone now to become a Muslim WITHOUT reciting the shahada pledging a belief in both Allah and Mohammed.

2. Evidence from the Qur'an
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Observations:
1. Muslims are enjoined by Allah to have faith in Mohammed
2. Mohammed has the power to forgive sins of Muslims AND
3. save them from painful hellfire
4. HOWEVER, It seems UNLIKE Allah, Mohammed can only forgive SOME of Muslim's sins.

This is also confirmed in the next Quranic verse
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

We can see two personalities who can forgive sins
1. Allah
2. Mohammed the Messenger

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

QUESTIONS:
1. Since we can see that Mohammed can forgive Sins like Allah AND he is the one to Admit Muslims into paradise; What are the explanations you have that Mohammed is not a PARTNER with Allah?
2. What are the kinds of sins Mohammed cannot forgive?

Bros, you are confusing so many things together and in doing that you won't see the answers you seek.

So on Forgiveness:

The General principle is that ONLY ALLAH forgives. It is an attribute of Allah which humans too can display. I can wrong you and you can decide to forgive or seek retribution.

If you care to know, SINS usually come in Three Folds:

1. Against your Creator (Disobedience to His Eternal Laws, taking others besides Him as god/s etc)

2. Against fellow beings( backbiting, slanders etc)

3. Against your own self.

God Forgives if your repentance is genuine and you won't go back to them. He Forgives.

So as a human too, I can decide to forgive you or decide to seek retribution or redress from Authority.

It is exactly the same. The Prophet can choose to Forgive or seek retribution for those that slander him, lied against him and all that.


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Thank you Mr Lukuluku69 for your kind response.
I agree with you in some parts, however their are some ununclear portions of your explanations!

Lukuluku69:


Bros, you are confusing so many things together and in doing that you won't see the answers you seek.

So on Forgiveness:

The General principle is that ONLY ALLAH forgives. It is an attribute of Allah which humans too can display. I can wrong you and you can decide to forgive or seek retribution.

If you care to know, SINS usually come in Three Folds:

1. Against your Creator (Disobedience to His Eternal Laws, taking others besides Him as god/s etc)

2. Against fellow beings( backbiting, slanders etc)

3. Against your own self.

God Forgives if your repentance is genuine and you won't go back to them. He Forgives.

So as a human too, I can decide to forgive you or decide to seek retribution or redress from Authority.

It is exactly the same. The Prophet can choose to Forgive or seek retribution for those that slander him, lied against him and all that.


(

Thank you,

1. On Forgiveness:
I agree with you that Human beings can forgive! I think what a human being can forgive is OFFENCE
But can human beings forgive SINS?

Let me give you an example:
If I stole your car and I was caught by the police after I've sold the car. You can decide to forgive me and not ask me to return the stolen car!
1. Have you forgiving me absolved me of the sin (against Allah) of STEALING?
2. Has your forgiveness absolved me of the crime against the State (police)?
The verse below is explicit isn't it?
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

My point is that a human being can forgive, but it doesn't remove the crime of SIN against God. It is even possible to forgive a person who NEVER asked for forgiveness: does it mean that such a person's sin against God is forgiven?

2. On the Shahada:
Is it possible that a person like me can become a Muslim by Reciting the Shahada BUT Omitting Mohammed in it?
How is this not associating partnership with God?

Power to Admit a Person into Paradise:
You didn't make any response on this! The Hadiths show that Mohammed is the one to grant passage to mankind into paradise: this right is not given to any other prophet in Islam.
Sahih Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.' ..
...
They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, but you'd better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and the future had been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will come to me and I will ask the permission of my Lord, and I will be permitted (to present myself) before Him. ..... O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will then raise my head and praise my Lord with certain praises which He has taught me, and then I will intercede. Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise.

The story starts from Adam, then to Noah, then to Abraham, then to Moses and eventually to Jesus who would ALL reject the assignment because they are UNFIT for it.

It is amazing that even though Jesus didn't have any excuse for being UNFIT, he recommends Mohammed as the one that is perfect for the assignment.

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

TenQ:
Thank you Mr Lukuluku69 for your kind response.
I agree with you in some parts, however their are some ununclear portions of your explanations!

Thank you,

1. On Forgiveness:
I agree with you that Human beings can forgive! I think what a human being can forgive is OFFENCE
But can human beings forgive SINS?

Let me give you an example:
If I stole your car and I was caught by the police after I've sold the car. You can decide to forgive me and not ask me to return the stolen car!
1. Have you forgiving me absolved me of the sin (against Allah) of STEALING?
2. Has your forgiveness absolved me of the crime against the State (police)?
The verse below is explicit isn't it?
Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah’s summoner and believe in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and guard you from a painful doom.
Qur'an 4:64
We sent no messenger save that he should be obeyed by Allah’s leave. And if, when they had wronged themselves, they had but come unto thee and asked forgiveness of Allah, and asked forgiveness of the messenger, they would have found Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

My point is that a human being can forgive, but it doesn't remove the crime of SIN against God. It is even possible to forgive a person who NEVER asked for forgiveness: does it mean that such a person's sin against God is forgiven?

2. On the Shahada:
Is it possible that a person like me can become a Muslim by Reciting the Shahada BUT Omitting Mohammed in it?
How is this not associating partnership with God?

Power to Admit a Person into Paradise:
You didn't make any response on this! The Hadiths show that Mohammed is the one to grant passage to mankind into paradise: this right is not given to any other prophet in Islam.
Sahih Bukhari 7410
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah will gather the believers on the Day of Resurrection in the same way (as they are gathered in this life), and they will say, 'Let us ask someone to intercede for us with our Lord that He may relieve us from this place of ours.' ..
...
They will go to Jesus who will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, but you'd better go to Muhammad whose sins of the past and the future had been forgiven (by Allah).' So they will come to me and I will ask the permission of my Lord, and I will be permitted (to present myself) before Him. ..... O Muhammad! Raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will then raise my head and praise my Lord with certain praises which He has taught me, and then I will intercede. Allah will allow me to intercede (for a certain kind of people) and will fix a limit whom I will admit into Paradise.

The story starts from Adam, then to Noah, then to Abraham, then to Moses and eventually to Jesus who would ALL reject the assignment because they are UNFIT for it.

It is amazing that even though Jesus didn't have any excuse for being UNFIT, he recommends Mohammed as the one that is perfect for the assignment.

To cut the long story short, we can see that Mohammed would be the one to ADMIT people into paradise and NOT Allah.

Yet, Muslims try to convince everyone that only Allah can admit people into paradise.

Funny you!

I told you to take it one at a time.

On Paradise, Jesus is reported to have told obe of the Robbers on the Cross that " this day you will be with me in paradise"( I paraphrased), so if The Prophet says he assures anyone who believe in One God and he/she followed it with keeping God's Commandments and is a doer of Good why then are you taking offence?

The Robber only believed in the Mission of Christ yet Christ says he will be with him in paradise " this day" yet you have issues with someone being assured Paradise because he believed in One God and keeping God's Commandments?

Really, how do you guys judge? How?

Lukuluku69:


Funny you!

I told you to take it one at a time.

On Paradise, Jesus is reported to have told obe of the Robbers on the Cross that " this day you will be with me in paradise"( I paraphrased), so if The Prophet says he assures anyone who believe in One God and he/she followed it with keeping God's Commandments and is a doer of Good why then are you taking offence?

The Robber only believed in the Mission of Christ yet Christ says he will be with him in paradise " this day" yet you have issues with someone being assured Paradise because he believed in One God and keeping God's Commandments?

Really, how do you guys judge? How?

Of course as Christians we can easily explain this because Jesus the Messiah is GOD (in the human flesh) ! Because of this, He has the POWER and AUTHORITY to Admit ANYONE into Paradise!

It may interest you to know that prior to this time, the Robber was not following the laws of God. He even contributed to railing against Jesus on the cross until he repented in his heart and changed his mind.

The prerequisite of Being Born Again is Faith in the Atonement of Christ that propels us to ASK for Eternal Life with God. The Robber asked, and he Received!

Do you think any Human being (or even Muhammed) has such Authority?

Before you answer this question:
I think (I may be wrong) Whoever can admit anyone into paradise must have been in paradise!
Mr Lukuluku, can you answer this question:
Is Mohammed currently in his spacious beautiful grave or in Paradise?

Thank you(two questions)

Lukuluku69:


Funny you!

I told you to take it one at a time.

On Paradise, Jesus is reported to have told obe of the Robbers on the Cross that " this day you will be with me in paradise"( I paraphrased), so if The Prophet says he assures anyone who believe in One God and he/she followed it with keeping God's Commandments and is a doer of Good why then are you taking offence?

The Robber only believed in the Mission of Christ yet Christ says he will be with him in paradise " this day" yet you have issues with someone being assured Paradise because he believed in One God and keeping God's Commandments?

Really, how do you guys judge? How?

Of course as Christians we can easily explain this because Jesus the Messiah is GOD (in the human flesh) ! Because of this, He has the POWER and AUTHORITY to Admit ANYONE into Paradise!

The prerequisite of Being Born Again is Faith in the Atonement of Christ that propels us to ASK for Eternal Life with God. The Robber asked, and he Received!

Do you think any Human being (or even Muhammed) has such Authority?

Before you answer this question:
I think (I may be wrong) Whoever can admit anyone into paradise must have been in paradise!
Mr Lukuluku, can you answer this question:
Is Mohammed currently in his spacious beautiful grave or in Paradise?

Thank you(two questions)

TenQ:

Of course as Christians we can easily explain this because Jesus the Messiah is GOD (in the human flesh) ! Because of this, He has the POWER and AUTHORITY to Admit ANYONE into Paradise!

The prerequisite of Being Born Again is Faith in the Atonement of Christ that propels us to ASK for Eternal Life with God. The Robber asked, and he Received!

Do you think any Human being (or even Muhammed) has such Authority?

Before you answer this question:
I think (I may be wrong) Whoever can admit anyone into paradise must have been in paradise!
Mr Lukuluku, can you answer this question:
Is Mohammed currently in his spacious beautiful grave or in Paradise?

Thank you(two questions)

Of what use is my answer to you and my own Faith if the Prophet is in Paradise or his grave?

Lukuluku69:


Of what use is my answer to you and my own Faith if the Prophet is in Paradise or his grave?

Of what use!?
It's to answer my preconceptions about Islam: as it could be wrong!

I know of a certain that only God should be able to forgive SIN. I can understand why Jesus could forgive SIN but I can't understand how Mohammed can forgive SIN.

Do you think any Human being (or even Muhammed) has such Authority?

Of the Grave:
If Mohammed is ALREADY in Paradise, we can assume he is waiting for other Muslims and may even INTERCEDE for them. However, if Mohammed is in his grave, then it would be an impossible affair as he too will be waiting for resurrection day to come alive .

What do you think?

Hey TenQ,

I have a question that troubles my soul (remember you have never logically answered any question that troubles my soul):

Jesus is a god right? From a logical perspective, can you tell us WHY he is the only god I know that HIS own people refuse to worship? I do not mean stray people like advocatejare o whose grandfathers probably worshipped Esu. I mean those who had direct relationship with him.

Esu and Obatala (Yoruba), Gajimare and Kuri (Magazuwa), Zeus (Greek) etc. were all worshipped by their OWN people, why is your own 'God' different?

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ,

I have a question that troubles my soul (remember you have never logically answered any question that troubles my soul):

Jesus is a god right? From a logical perspective, can you tell us WHY he is the only god I know that HIS own people refuse to worship? I do not mean stray people like advocatejare o whose grandfathers probably worshipped Esu. I mean those who had direct relationship with him.

Esu and Obatala (Yoruba), Gajimare and Kuri (Magazuwa), Zeus (Greek) etc. were all worshipped by their OWN people, why is your own 'God' different?

Unfortunately , you have demonstrated that you are not worth any civil answer or response to any Question!

You may repeat your question indefinitely!

TenQ:

Unfortunately , you have demonstrated that you are not worth any civil answer or response to any Question!

You may repeat your question indefinitely!

Like the stray advocatejare, you want to stray from the question! You CANNOT answer because you do not have an answer.

Think TenQ !!!!!!!!!!!!! And know that it is absolutely inconceivable for Jesus to be god. God of who and where? He is just like you and I with the only difference that GOD, THE ALMIGHTY gave him bigger powers than us. Outside that, Jesus is absolutely not different from me!

TenQ:

Unfortunately , you have demonstrated that you are not worth any civil answer or response to any Question!

You may repeat your question indefinitely!

(underlined mine)

And thank you for the underlined. I will repeat my questions indefinitely until you give me a response and ANY question you asked me henceforth depends on this. After, all TenQ said I may repeat my question indefinitely, isn't it?

Potential thief!

LegalWolf:
(underlined mine)

And thank you for the underlined. I will repeat my questions indefinitely until you give me a response and ANY question you asked me henceforth depends on this. After, all TenQ said I may repeat my question indefinitely, isn't it?

Potential thief!

So, why were you AFRAID of repeating your questions?

I didn't hold any cane o