freshboi88:


When u read and tell me what John 16:15 and col 1:16 says u don't have a point. Mr Dullard

Mumu guy u couldn't answer ba .

freshboi88 , How come Jesus is our brother and nobody is his son if he owns what he made ?

John 16:15 and Col 1:16 doesn't change the Fact that Jesus himself belong to God and came through the Father (Romans 11:35,36)

Barristter07:

Mumu guy u couldn't answer ba .

freshboi88 , How come Jesus is our brother and nobody is his son if he owns what he made ?

John 16:15 and Col 1:16 doesn't change the Fact that Jesus himself belong to God and came through the Father (Romans 11:35,36)

You be clown ah swear: make I translate John 16:15 for pidgin, maybe u too bolo to understand English

Use your God given brain for once

John 16:15: Everything way my papa get, na my own too, na me get am too.

So which other confirmation you need. Btw U and Jesus who dey lie....

Jesus dey lie?....Jesus no fit lie because he nah Truth. So there's only one liar here and that's you bro. because of doctrine, u dey call Jesus liar, shey u see as u mugu


John 16:15: Everything

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Barristter07:


Point is what the Father gave him, he repaid back. Jesus is not the one spoken of at Romans 11:35,36 . Hence the question , what came through the Father since they are different persons ?

If he gives back is kingdom, it would have not be called the everlasting kingdom of Christ.

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

So Jesus isnt repaying anything

Barristter07:


Stupidity . Under no circumstances should source of life be granted life. You are exposed.

Do you even listen to yourself? Jesus was granted for him to have life in himself, mean Jesus gave life to himself only that he needed the authority from his father to do so.

No creature can give life to their self not possible.

Jesus receives authority from the father to do so because he was a servant, he made himself a servant.

Barristter07:
Stupidity . Under no circumstances should source of life be granted life. You are exposed.

See ignorance speaking with bold face.

Your stupidity is legendary.

When we read that Jesus

CEV: "Instead he(Jesus) gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us."

You're still denying the scripture where it is boldly written that Jesus is:

1. The source of life
2. Source of Creation
3. Source of Salvation
4. Source of Faith.

Lying liar like your father the devil

Barristter07:
For whom we live, is Jesus included ?

" I live because of the Father, " John 6:57

Not only Does Jesus come from the Father , Through the Father , he also LIVE for the Father . Cover your eyes in shame

Keep jumping like kangaroo.

1 Corinthians 8:6 exposed your lies.

ALL THINGS are from the Father THROUGH Jesus.
WE ALL LIVE by the Father THROUGH Jesus....

Without Jesus no life will exist outside God.

Same being , what's the being ?

Same Human being ?

They are not same being. Totally different persons , so it's important for you to realize All things in both context have different margins.

Being means one person

Beings mean two persons .

Don't you hear English ?

@bold is what your deluded mind has been trying to spew since but I didn't allow it, now you have finally spew the thrash.

Only a lying liar mouth will say "ALL THINGS" in both context have two different margins. No wonder your demonic organization has to fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" into that Colossians 1.

If it has two different margins why didn't your demonic organization leave the text as it is in Original Greek? But you what, the lies won't be supported without that.

Jesus exist in Spirit form before coming to earth, That make them TWO different Spirit BEING (S)

A being is a single person, Beings is more than one.

CALM DOWN and learn, it's silly to say both are the same being (person)

Since they are different persons, what came through the Father?

Stop this your ignorance in cyberspace, you're disgracing yourself.

HUMAN BEING means the whole of people living on earth male and female.

human being

Pronunciation /ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/ 

Translate human being into Spanish

NOUN

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/human_being

Go school you know gree.

ALL THINGS came from Father and the Son means they are the same BEING.

I'm still waiting for you to provide where I said "they are the same PERSON"

Lying liar.

Ridiculous . Under no circumstances should a creator be called brothers of what he created. I gave you strong proof tht Jesus own Nothing.

Says the deluded who couldn't find Phil 2:7 in his polluted version of the Bible.

Jesus is a Son before coming to earth , We are also sons ... We are all brothers from the same Father. Sons are created beings

Or Jesus is not a son before coming to earth, let me know if Trinity doesn't exist until he came to earth ? Mumu guy

Jesus became our brothers when HE TOOK ON THE NATURE OF ADAM

Trinity is from everlasting to everlasting.

[s]What comes from two different persons is a Child to both of them, Why is no one reffered to as Son of Jesus ?? Why ONLY THE Father is spoken of as having Sons ?[/s]

Jesus shall see His SEED

Who are these seeds?

I repeat Jesus own nothing, if he does, The angels would have been called sons of Jesus . Humans would have been called his sons too .

But EVERYTHING (ALL THINGS) the Father has belongs to Jesus.

See what lying mouth is causing you.

All things means the same thing for both, Yet Jesus belong to the Father and live for him ?

Phil 2:7 will cure your delusion on that, for NOW ALL THINGS means just one thing EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS FROM CREATION TIME TILL NOW.

( I know you can't defend your Jesus is human in heaven dogma anymore , its more like a robot approach now. Keep it up )

Still looking for a way to derail this thread.

Take it again, Jesus is human in heaven! You can find the nearest wall to hit your head.

livingchrist:
Do barrister have sense at all?

Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Christ striped himself of all his privileges as God by taking on the form of man, so God giving him back his glory does not mean he does not own them, he only temporarily put them aside.

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Jesus did not say the father should glorify him with the glory that the father gave to him but rather the glory he had with the father.

This is it. This is the End of this. U have finished them with this......JW deluded mu raised to the power of 2 can we go to bed now.

I wonder how have d it is been u guys. It must really be hard, having to defend lies all your life. Kpele!!!....I don't envy been you guys

livingchrist:

You like a drowning man holding tenaciously to a straw,
Look at the verse you quoted compare it, with vv 5 and vv 24

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.




John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

@ bolded Jesus didnt say 'the glory which God had given him from the foundation of the world' rather the glory which God has given me.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

The difference is clear, Jesus had the glory with the father before the foundation of the world but in verse 24 it is the glory that he was given to him as the messiah or the messianic glory.

Hebrews 2:7-9 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.

But now we see not yet all things put under him.
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Janosky c as dem expose your lies waaaaaaa....like fowl Yanch way breeze blow.

The devil will be ashamed of you now because u r doing a very terrible job walahi!!!!!

livingchrist:
try harder, Jesus didnt not say 'glorify me with the glory you gave to me before the foundation of the world. If there is anywhere Christ said such notify it.


You have not yet realised this wahala is for you yet.

Mr Barrister where did Roman's 11 vv 36 say all things was created through the father?

@bolded clown only you ask only you answer.

Christ kingdom is an everlasting one.

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Your lie that Christ will return his kingdom has being exposed.

Choi!!!!......Barrister has been basterdized n barristerized with the truth. Everlasting Kingdom of Christ!!!......

Barrister devil dey vex for u oh..........e say nah the hottest part of hell e go give cos u too dull. U no even fit tell better lie

Barristter07:


Answer the bold first ... And let's see if it holds water. U might see why nobody is even called Jesus sons but brothers. He owns Nothing except what he was given.

Jesus is called our brother because he was one of us. He gave up the Glory he had with the Father before the foundation of the World. Because he loves u.

Nd u insult him and demean him because his sacrifice. He forgave those who killed cos they didn't know what they were doing.

You u know what u r doing even when the truth is been shown to u. I pity u

Janosky:


Mr LIENUS the Second
John 17:1-24, Bros, where did Jesus tell your 3 Gods spirits shared the glory?

John 17:5
Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began."

22 “I have given them the glory you gave me"
24 "Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!"

Yahweh gave Jesus the glory before the world began,
Bros, Was Jesus a Messiah before the world began?

LYING clown

You are a clown I swear..you are quoting scripture that is countering u and u don't even know it.


John 17:5
Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began

We shared not what was given....Lie no let u Sabi English again....ABI share don mean something else again. Maybe for Janosky dictionary.

DappaD:
From = Source/origin; which refers to the Father, Jehovah God. Psalm 36:9, Acts 17:28
By/through = Link; which pertains to the Son, Jesus Christ. John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:15-17

Who is that person still saying Jesus is the source of life after quoting 1Corinthians 8:6?

Read through the thread to cure your delusion. Ur kind is been battered on this thread

Emusan:


Keep jumping like kangaroo.

1 Corinthians 8:6 exposed your lies.

ALL THINGS are from the Father THROUGH Jesus.
WE ALL LIVE by the Father THROUGH Jesus....

Without Jesus no life will exist outside God.



@bold is what your deluded mind has been trying to spew since but I didn't allow it, now you have finally spew the thrash.

Only a lying liar mouth will say "ALL THINGS" in both context have two different margins. No wonder your demonic organization has to fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" into that Colossians 1.

If it has two different margins why didn't your demonic organization leave the text as it is in Original Greek? But you what, the lies won't be supported without that.



Stop this your ignorance in cyberspace, you're disgracing yourself.

HUMAN BEING means the whole of people living on earth male and female.

human being

Pronunciation /ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/ 

Translate human being into Spanish

NOUN

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/human_being

Go school you know gree.

ALL THINGS came from Father and the Son means they are the same BEING.

I'm still waiting for you to provide where I said "they are the same PERSON"

Lying liar.



Says the deluded who couldn't find Phil 2:7 in his polluted version of the Bible.



Jesus became our brothers when HE TOOK ON THE NATURE OF ADAM

Trinity is from everlasting to everlasting.



Jesus shall see His SEED

Who are these seeds?



But EVERYTHING (ALL THINGS) the Father has belongs to Jesus.

See what lying mouth is causing you.



Phil 2:7 will cure your delusion on that, for NOW ALL THINGS means just one thing EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS FROM CREATION TIME TILL NOW.



Still looking for a way to derail this thread.

Take it again, Jesus is human in heaven! You can find the nearest wall to hit your head.

Choiiii gbas gbos.......This is a full upper cut. This brutality and fatality mix together. Dude has gone inside the hole he crawled out of.

If u see barrister now, nah bandage go full e body

Emusan:


Keep jumping like kangaroo.

1 Corinthians 8:6 exposed your lies.

ALL THINGS are from the Father THROUGH Jesus.
WE ALL LIVE by the Father THROUGH Jesus....

Without Jesus no life will exist outside God.

But Jesus Himself Came through the Father and belong to the Father , Live for the Father .. Make peace with it ( Romans 11:35,36)

@bold is what your deluded mind has been trying to spew since but I didn't allow it, now you have finally spew the thrash.


Only a lying liar mouth will say "ALL THINGS" in both context have two different margins. No wonder your demonic organization has to fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" into that Colossians 1.

If it has two different margins why didn't your demonic organization leave the text as it is in Original Greek? But you what, the lies won't be supported without that.

almost all translations use other for emphasis. Mumu

If it doesn't have different context, Jesus won't have been part of all things that belong to the Father.

Stop this your ignorance in cyberspace, you're disgracing yourself.

HUMAN BEING means the whole of people living on earth male and female.

human being

Pronunciation /ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/ 

Translate human being into Spanish

NOUN

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/human_being

Go school you know gree.

ALL THINGS came from Father and the Son means they are the same BEING.

I'm still waiting for you to provide where I said "they are the same PERSON"

Lying liar.

Open your eyes na...


A man

A woman

A child

Singular person. " A"

Human being is a single person , Olodo Oshi


Human beings are many persons

One being means one person

Two beings mean two persons

Olodo buruku


So Father and Son are Same being or beings ?

Says the deluded who couldn't find Phil 2:7 in his polluted version of the Bible.

Jesus became our brothers when HE TOOK ON THE NATURE OF ADAM

Trinity is from everlasting to everlasting.

Jesus shall see His SEED

Who are these seeds?

That means he was a Son prior to coming on Earth , Sons are brothers . Mumu

Jesus is our brother before coming to earth .

" So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. " Hebrew 2:11

You this stupid liar , he was our brother because we all have the same Father. He is also a Created son like us.

But EVERYTHING (ALL THINGS) the Father has belongs to Jesus.

See what lying mouth is causing you.

Phil 2:7 will cure your delusion on that, for NOW ALL THINGS means just one thing EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS FROM CREATION TIME TILL NOW.

Still looking for a way to derail this thread.

Take it again, Jesus is human in heaven! You can find the nearest wall to hit your head.

Your last line is robotic , am not engaging you on that. If you have the skill, go back to that thread and defend your Jesus is human theory.

The bold reveal who is the owner of All things, Jesus himself belong to him .

freshboi88:


Jesus is called our brother because he was one of us. He gave up the Glory he had with the Father before the foundation of the World. Because he loves u.

Nd u insult him and demean him because his sacrifice. He forgave those who killed cos they didn't know what they were doing.

You u know what u r doing even when the truth is been shown to u. I pity u

" So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. " Hebrew 2:11

You this stupid liar , he was our brother because we all have the same Father. He is also a Created son like us.

Emusan:


See ignorance speaking with bold face.

Your stupidity is legendary.

When we read that Jesus

CEV: "Instead he(Jesus) gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us."

You are sounding more stupid, this is another prove he isn't the source of life . Source of life should not die under any circumstances. Source of life died and was raised by Another person , are you sure you are okay upstairs ?

You're still denying the scripture where it is boldly written that Jesus is:

1. The source of life
2. Source of Creation
3. Source of Salvation
4. Source of Faith.

Lying liar like your father the devil

The scriptures is clear , we have One God, the Father ... From whom all things came. The only source of all things , All things even Jesus came from him, this is why he is his son .

livingchrist:
Do you even listen to yourself? Jesus was granted for him to have life in himself, mean Jesus gave life to himself only that he needed the authority from his father to do so.

No creature can give life to their self not possible.

Jesus receives authority from the father to do so because he was a servant, he made himself a servant.

@bold , your head is not working

livingchrist:
If he gives back is kingdom, it would have not be called the everlasting kingdom of Christ.

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

So Jesus isnt repaying anything

The Kingdom the Father gave him, he returned. Comprehend ?

Romans 11:35,36 is not for Jesus , So tell us what came through the Father ?

freshboi88:


You be clown ah swear: make I translate John 16:15 for pidgin, maybe u too bolo to understand English

Use your God given brain for once

John 16:15: Everything way my papa get, na my own too, na me get am too.

So which other confirmation you need. Btw U and Jesus who dey lie....

Jesus dey lie?....Jesus no fit lie because he nah Truth. So there's only one liar here and that's you bro. because of doctrine, u dey call Jesus liar, shey u see as u mugu


John 16:15: Everything

By the authority of who ? U no just get sense

" All things have been handed over to me by my Father " Matthew 11:27

If Jesus is the owner, does he need someone else to hand over ?

Jesus own Nothing except what the Father gave him.

Barristter07:
You are sounding more stupid, this is another prove he isn't the source of life . Source of life should not die under any circumstances. Source of life died and was raised by Another person , are you sure you are okay upstairs ?

See shallow reasoning!

Oponu...

But Jesus is source of life according to the scripture.

The scriptures is clear , we have One God, the Father ... From whom all things came. The only source of all things , All things even Jesus came from him, this is why he is his son .

Just as the scripture is clear that Jesus is the source of life and shut up your lying mouth forever that Jesus isn't a SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH Jesus which mill make Jesus come from Himself.

Emusan:


See shallow reasoning!

Oponu...

But Jesus is source of life according to the scripture.

Just as the scripture is clear that Jesus is the source of life and shut up your lying mouth forever that Jesus isn't a SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH Jesus which mill make Jesus come from Himself.

Source of life was crying to someone else to save him from death? Your brain is freezed .

Jesus didn't come from himself, if he does, he won't have been a son.

Barristter07:


By the authority of who ? U no just get sense

" All things have been handed over to me by my Father " Matthew 11:27

If Jesus is the owner, does he need someone else to hand over ?

Jesus own Nothing except what the Father gave him.

Liar...you have been shamed.....Shame no grew u agree.

When u understand the diff between preincarnation and postincarnation u will.beg Jesus for forgiveness

Pre-Incarnation

John 17:5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.


John 16:15All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’


Col 1:16for through him God created everything

in the heavenly realms and on earth.

He made the things we can see

and the things we can’t see—

such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.

Everything was created through him and for him.

17He existed before anything else,

and he holds all creation together.


Post-incarnation

" All things have been handed over to me by my Father " Matthew 11:27

And others verses u r clinging to like ur entire existence depends on it.

Only a mumu and unintelligent fellow, a deluded brain will ignore all the pre-incarnation statements made by Jesus and cling to the post incarnation to defend an indefensible doctrine.

freshboi88:


Liar...you have been shamed.....Shame no grew u agree.

When u understand the diff between preincarnation and postincarnation u will.beg Jesus for forgiveness

Pre-Incarnation

John 17:5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

Verse 24 The Father gave him that Glory .

John 16:15All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’


Col 1:16for through him God created everything

in the heavenly realms and on earth.

He made the things we can see

and the things we can’t see—

such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.

Everything was created through him and for him.

17He existed before anything else,

and he holds all creation together.

Col 1:15 calls him the IMAGE of the invisible God. Your image is your son/creation .

Proving you a liar.

Post-incarnation

" All things have been handed over to me by my Father " Matthew 11:27

And others verses u r clinging to like ur entire existence depends on it.

Only a mumu and unintelligent fellow, a deluded brain will ignore all the pre-incarnation statements made by Jesus and cling to the post incarnation to defend an indefensible doctrine.

Was he lying ?


Don't forget he is an image of someone else. The owner of all things

Barristter07:


" So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. " Hebrew 2:11

You this stupid liar , he was our brother because we all have the same Father. He is also a Created son like us.

This one mumu oh.....are u not agreeing with here. Jesus became our brother because he became a human being.

Phil 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing(L)
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,(M)
being made in human likeness.(N)

8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death

He became a servant because he decided on his own to take human likeness. Becoming like us, thus becoming our brother MUMU.

freshboi88:


This one mumu oh.....are u not agreeing with here. Jesus became our brother because he became a human being.

Phil 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing(L)
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,(M)
being made in human likeness.(N)

8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death

He became a servant because he decided on his own to take human likeness. Becoming like us, thus becoming our brother MUMU.

Kid, that scripture is clear enough. , He is our brother because we have the same Father.

Or you mean Jesus didn't have a Father before coming to earth ?

Barristter07:


Verse 24 The Father gave him that Glory .



Col 1:15 calls him the IMAGE of the invisible God. Your image is your son/creation .

Proving you a liar.



Was he lying ?


Don't forget he is an image of someone else. The owner of all things

MUMU, Ur sense dey under ur shoe

The Visible image of the Invisible God. The member of the Godhead which is visible.

Doesn't imply any stupid creation ode!

freshboi88:


MUMU, Ur sense dey under ur shoe

The Visible image of the Invisible God. The member of the Godhead which is visible.

Doesn't imply any stupid creation ode!

When God make man in his image , Creation

When Seth was made in Adams image , Creation

It simply means he came from the one whose image He hears .

Mumu oshi

Barristter07:


When God make man in his image , Creation

When Seth was made in Adams image , Creation

It simply means he came from the one whose image He hears .

Mumu oshi

Thank God u used the word made.

Show me where it says Jesus was made in God's image

Y is made missing in the case of Jesus....Olodo rabata

freshboi88:


Thank God u used the word made.

Show me where it says Jesus was made in God's image

" When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. "

Do you see Made here ? Does it mean Adam didn't produce Seth and by virtue of this become his Father ?

Jesus is the Image of the invisible God means He was made by God and this God became his Father and Jesus his son .


Open your brains

Barristter07:


" When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. "

Do you see Made here ? Does it mean Adam didn't produce Seth and by virtue of this become his Father ?

Jesus is the Image of the invisible God means He was made by God and this God became his Father and Jesus his son .


Open your brains

Show me where God made Jesus nah....Mumu!!!.....Deluded brain !!!!

freshboi88:


Show me where God made Jesus nah....Mumu!!!.....Deluded brain !!!!

process that post once again. Image of God and he went ahead to be called Firstborn of creation. , First born means the first person born to a Father , this is not pre Eminence, the word " Image " showed it reffering to Creation