Emusan:

Are you saying people who subjected themselves to Bible study and got baptized didn't leave your organization?

MaxInDHouse:
[s]NO!
It depends on the motive {Matthew 13:3-9} whoever comes after Jesus due to his goodness will be disappointed because Jesus will say things that will irritate you at times {John 6:61-66} whoever followed Jesus because he's performing miracles will be frustrated when Jesus refuse to perform miracles to save them {Luke 23:39} whoever follows Jesus out of pity will be disappointed because Jesus doesn't need your money! Luke 18:18-23
So what should be the bases for hanging on to Jesus? It's the joy that you've found the one and only pure worship acceptable before God!
Jehovah's sheep are still out there in so many false religions but we know them by their LOVE for the one and only pure worship {John 10:27} they're ready to forgo anything just to stay with those practicing pure worship {Ruth 1:16-17 compare to Matthew 13:45-46; Hebrews 10:24-25} Jehovah's Holy Spirit is directing us to them, they're the ones who often ask that annoying question "if we leave, which other group do we worship with?" they'll tell you "this is the one and only group where we are hearing the truth that leads to everlasting life unless you can present a better performing group we will never leave this one" John 6:68-69
So many often study with us but their motive is not to stand for pure worship, they're either born by Witnesses or enticed by the LOVE, JOY and PEACE we enjoy in God's Organization.
They don't know that there are many things they have to pass through if they must remain in the TRUTH! Luke 13:24 [/s]

jesusjnr2020:
It's a shame that you can't see that the real god you serve is not Jehovah but the organization!

You're even worse than Judas Iscariot, because even though he betrayed Christ, he had a change of heart and repented. But you're still justifying your betrayal of Christ and lies against Him, yet claiming to be the true Christians. Lol!

As for your question, It depends on what his offence was, but if i knew him well enough, that he would be able to do a good job regardless, I would! I may even trust him more than some other doctors whose license may have not been revoked, but whom I know are nothing but criminals and bad at their job, only that they may not have been found out.

Emusan:

Who asked you?
The question is this; Are you saying people who subjected themselves to Bible study and got baptized didn't leave your organization?
Remember to pick your brain from your hall next time you want to address my post.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep consoling yourself outside the camp of Israel, the avenger of blood is coming!

MaxInDHouse:

©Who did JEHOVAH made Lord over the church? Jesus of Nazareth!

MaxInDHouse:

©How many did Jesus select as Apostles?
Twelve!

JEHOVAH … was patient enough to see

MaxInDHouse:

©Was Judas Iscariot part of those taking the lead when Jesus sent his disciples out to preach? Yes!
©Who is the thief among the twelve Apostles who often steal from the money given to them?
Judas Iscariot!
©Was Jesus aware of this?
Yes!
©Did he reject Judas Iscariot for this acts?
©Is Jesus qualified to lead God's people?
©Does his action regarding Judas's unfaithfulness mean Jesus was false?

Well faithless generation of your kind can't see all of these, you just want all forms of worship to be approved anyway.
David was God's anointed King, he committed adultery with Bathsheba, killed her husband and married her. JEHOVAH never killed David for this but was patient enough to see if he will repent!

So would you have continue serving JEHOVAH alongside David?
Would you have remained with Jesus alongside Judas Iscariot?
OK Jehovah should accept all forms worship and condemn Israel or Jehovah should have rejected Jesus for not removing Judas Iscariot from the twelve! cheesy

My friend, just stop mentioning me if you don't want more headaches added to the ones you're suffering presently!

MaxInDHouse:

So would you have continue serving JEHOVAH alongside David?
Would you have remained with Jesus alongside Judas Iscariot?
OK Jehovah should accept all forms worship and condemn Israel or Jehovah should have rejected Jesus for not removing Judas Iscariot from the twelve!

rottennaija:

My dear, this is 2021 not 4000BCE. There is no avenger of blood anywhere, unless you are joining ISIL of Boko Haram, which I will not be surprised.
Jesus is head of the church or congregation. God is the head of Jesus.
In JWS, the congregations are headed by the organisation which has the Governing Body acting as Governors. This places Jesus under the GB.No surprise Jesus is missing in chart above.
Jesus selected the 12 apostles. 11 were faithful, 1 was not.
These 11 apostles and the replacement could perform miracles, had varied gift of the spirit and could heal sick ones as evidence of Jesus spirit, when they make prophecies, it was 100% accurate, their message was consistent without contradiction. They was no old light, new light, advancing understanding or cherished understanding.
They Governing Body has no gift of the spirit, no miraculous ability and 100% failure whenever they attempt their hands on prophecies. They are not even honest about their failures. They deny, lie and mislead their followers.
This is 2021, Governing Body claimed to have been chosen by Jesus in 1919. As at 1920 when Jesus was supposed to have chosen the GB, they were still teaching the truth that CT Russel was the FDS when the man had died in 1916. In 1927, it became Jesus and the anointed ones and by 1930, it was the Watchtower


"THE WATCH TOWER unhesitatingly proclaims Brother Russell as "that faithful and wise servant." He delivered the message faithfully, finished his course and has now entered into his reward. Through him the Lord gave to the church the message that is so essential to each one who in this harvest time would win the glorious prize." Watch Tower 1917 Mar 1 p.67

"We believe that all who are now rejoicing in present truth will concede that Brother Russell faithfully filled the office of special servant of tile Lord; and that he was made ruler over all the Lord’s goods." Watch Tower 1923 Mar 1 p.68

"Seeing then that The Servant of Jehovah is The Christ, and that The Christ is composed of Jesus and the faithful members of his body, we find it proper to apply the term "Servant" to Jesus Christ alone or to Jesus Christ and the members of his body collectively as one; and sometimes it is applied only to the members of the body of Christ yet on earth." Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.53
It is either Jesus was there in 1919 choosing the GB (which did not exist) as the FDS or it was Russel who was long death or it was the WT hierarchy choosing people and claiming it was Jesus, but it cannot be all. But as MaxInDHouse has said,
What is more? The reference to the FDS occurs in Mt 24:45 and Lu 12:41-48, just those 2 places, and yet is the most abused 2 verses in the bible occurring about 4634 times in Watchtower magazine, 840 times in books, 432 times in Kingdom Ministry etc.
All the above are just mediocre silly excuses to justify nonsense.
Jesus was the leader and was aware of Judas betrayer and stealing nature (Jn 12:5,6). He was the son of destruction, who had been handed over to the devil. While looking for mediocre justification for nonsense, you should rather be asking yourself if Jesus gave Judas any commission after his death or gave him authority to lead his disciples?
While at it, you should be asking the fate of the Israelite when the leaders engaged in Idolatry? How many Israelite died because David took a census which God did not authorized? How many lost their lives because David took someone' wife? How many died when Aaron made a golden calf for worship? How many were lost when King Saul turned to Idolatry?
You just do not get it? When you ask the wrong questions, you get wrong response which gets you nowhere. It like when you friend Janosky was busy talking about consulting doctors whose license was revoked when actually the question was if the medical board will ask you to shun the doctor and consider him death before you because his license has been revoked.
Ask the right questions man and see your life gets brighten. Instead of excusing the nonsense the governing body is doing, you should be asking yourself "if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" - Ga 1:8
Ask yourself, how many of the doctrines of JWs can they comfortably teaching in the first century?
My dear, if David is practicing idolatry, he is no longer serving God. Get it? True worship is true worship, there are no two ways. Or maybe you wanted to ask if I will support David in his sins, while claiming worship. Or maybe I should support Judas Iscariot while he steals from the money pocket. But here is the irony, Judas was not worshiping God, he was simply living a hypocritical life (which i understand you could not see it because of blindness).
Or did you not read that that you cannot serve two masters? Have you so eagerly forgotten.? (Mt 6:24) Can you worship God and Demon at the same time? Oh insincere MaxInDHouse? Get it my friend, David was a king but not a religious leader. Judas was a disciple but not a leader. In anycase, if both were engaging in false worship, it is my duty to not worship with them. Do you think the 7000 prophets God told Elijah about were joining the religious authority (Governing Body) of their time to worship in the temple?

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o, with this lengthy epistle?
OK i've heard you, so do you suggest that people leaving JW Organization stop associating with people for worship?

rottennaija:

My dear, this is 2021 not 4000BCE. There is no avenger of blood anywhere, unless you are joining ISIL of Boko Haram, which I will not be surprised.


Jesus is head of the church or congregation. God is the head of Jesus.
In JWS, the congregations are headed by the organisation which has the Governing Body acting as Governors. This places Jesus under the GB.


No surprise Jesus is missing in chart above.


Jesus selected the 12 apostles. 11 were faithful, 1 was not.
These 11 apostles and the replacement could perform miracles, had varied gift of the spirit and could heal sick ones as evidence of Jesus spirit, when they make prophecies, it was 100% accurate, their message was consistent without contradiction. They was no old light, new light, advancing understanding or cherished understanding.

They Governing Body has no gift of the spirit, no miraculous ability and 100% failure whenever they attempt their hands on prophecies. They are not even honest about their failures. They deny, lie and mislead their followers.

This is 2021, Governing Body claimed to have been chosen by Jesus in 1919. As at 1920 when Jesus was supposed to have chosen the GB, they were still teaching the truth that CT Russel was the FDS when the man had died in 1916. In 1927, it became Jesus and the anointed ones and by 1930, it was the Watchtower


"THE WATCH TOWER unhesitatingly proclaims Brother Russell as "that faithful and wise servant." He delivered the message faithfully, finished his course and has now entered into his reward. Through him the Lord gave to the church the message that is so essential to each one who in this harvest time would win the glorious prize." Watch Tower 1917 Mar 1 p.67

"We believe that all who are now rejoicing in present truth will concede that Brother Russell faithfully filled the office of special servant of tile Lord; and that he was made ruler over all the Lord’s goods." Watch Tower 1923 Mar 1 p.68

"Seeing then that The Servant of Jehovah is The Christ, and that The Christ is composed of Jesus and the faithful members of his body, we find it proper to apply the term "Servant" to Jesus Christ alone or to Jesus Christ and the members of his body collectively as one; and sometimes it is applied only to the members of the body of Christ yet on earth." Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.53




It is either Jesus was there in 1919 choosing the GB (which did not exist) as the FDS or it was Russel who was long death or it was the WT hierarchy choosing people and claiming it was Jesus, but it cannot be all. But as MaxInDHouse has said,

What is more? The reference to the FDS occurs in Mt 24:45 and Lu 12:41-48, just those 2 places, and yet is the most abused 2 verses in the bible occurring about 4634 times in Watchtower magazine, 840 times in books, 432 times in Kingdom Ministry etc.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/13282121_fds_pngbb5837b18265a0c476e04a871266fa01

It is has become a source of control
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All the above are just mediocre silly excuses to justify nonsense.
Jesus was the leader and was aware of Judas betrayer and stealing nature (Jn 12:5,6). He was the son of destruction, who had been handed over to the devil. While looking for mediocre justification for nonsense, you should rather be asking yourself if Jesus gave Judas any commission after his death or gave him authority to lead his disciples?

While at it, you should be asking the fate of the Israelite when the leaders engaged in Idolatry? How many Israelite died because David took a census which God did not authorized? How many lost their lives because David took someone' wife? How many died when Aaron made a golden calf for worship? How many were lost when King Saul turned to Idolatry?

You just do not get it? When you ask the wrong questions, you get wrong response which gets you nowhere. It like when you friend Janosky was busy talking about consulting doctors whose license was revoked when actually the question was if the medical board will ask you to shun the doctor and consider him death before you because his license has been revoked.

Ask the right questions man and see your life gets brighten. Instead of excusing the nonsense the governing body is doing, you should be asking yourself "if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!" - Ga 1:8

Ask yourself, how many of the doctrines of JWs can they comfortably teaching in the first century?

My dear, if David is practicing idolatry, he is no longer serving God. Get it? True worship is true worship, there are no two ways. Or maybe you wanted to ask if I will support David in his sins, while claiming worship. Or maybe I should support Judas Iscariot while he steals from the money pocket. But here is the irony, Judas was not worshiping God, he was simply living a hypocritical life (which i understand you could not see it because of blindness).

Or did you not read that that you cannot serve two masters? Have you so eagerly forgotten.? (Mt 6:24) Can you worship God and Demon at the same time? Oh insincere MaxInDHouse? Get it my friend, David was a king but not a religious leader. Judas was a disciple but not a leader. In anycase, if both were engaging in false worship, it is my duty to not worship with them. Do you think the 7000 prophets God told Elijah about were joining the religious authority (Governing Body) of their time to worship in the temple?

LYING WAILER
Acts 2:42, "believers devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles.." (your Bible no call am 'teaching of Christ, e get why..)
Acts 15:3-6 "the apostles and elders gathered together to look into this matter.."
Central control and command by the Governing Body , the leaders of Jehovah's Servants.
Hebrews 13:7,17 .
Were they perfect? Not at all...
Jehovah's Servants today have copied that practice.
We are Jehovah's Servants, just as our leader, Jesus Christ is still serving our Father in heaven.
Bros,WAIL till kingdom come, no wahala

rottennaija:

Matthew 18:20
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.
The fewer the better.

jesusjnr2020:
It's a shame that you can't see that the real god you serve is not Jehovah but the organization!

You're even worse than Judas Iscariot, because even though he betrayed Christ, he had a change of heart and repented. But you're still justifying your betrayal of Christ and lies against Him, yet claiming to be the true Christians. Lol!

As for your question, It depends on what his offence was, but if i knew him well enough, that he would be able to do a good job regardless, I would! I may even trust him more than some other doctors whose license may have not been revoked, but whom I know are nothing but criminals and bad at their job, only that they may not have been found out.

JWs love Jehovah's inspired word @ Matthew10:32-40, 2John 1:9-11, 1 Cor 5:2,11-13, ,2Thess 3:6, Matthew18:17, 2 Corinthians 6:14, according to you, Jnr Bros it's "betrayal of Christ and lies against him", Jnr Bros, you well?

Jehovah loves Matthew10:32-40, 2John 1:9-11, 1 Corinthians 5:2,11-13 ,2Thes 3:6, Matt 18:17,
& 2 Corinthians 6:14...the truth in your Bible which you, Jnr Bros shamelessly rejects.

Jnr Bros dey shout upandan " betrayal of Christ and lies against him", Bros, you're a Hypocrite confirmed ,3 dogheads worshipper

Jnr Bros confesses he would patronize a quack whom the laws of the land does not permit to operate, e get why.
Birds of a feather always flock together.

rottennaija:


Matthew 18:20
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.

The fewer the better.

Janosky:


Their Churchpreneur , Leader and G.O na Rott WAILER .
Him say Jesus Christ is against house to house preaching..
Acts 5:42, Paul was disobeying Jesus Christ,
John 15:15 & 1 Corinthians 11:1, no dey him Bible

MaxInDHouse:
Wait until i SEE the lies myself nah!

jesusjnr2020:
In other words, he should wait until you stop being blind to the glaring Truth.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep consoling yourself outside the camp of Israel, the avenger of blood is coming!

©Who did JEHOVAH made Lord over the church?
Jesus of Nazareth!

©How many did Jesus select as Apostles?
Twelve!

©Who was Judas Iscariot?
One of the twelve Apostles!

©Was Judas Iscariot part of those taking the lead when Jesus sent his disciples out to preach? Yes!
©Who is the thief among the twelve Apostles who often steal from the money given to them?
Judas Iscariot!
©Was Jesus aware of this?
Yes!

©Did he reject Judas Iscariot for this acts?
©Is Jesus qualified to lead God's people?
©Does his action regarding Judas's unfaithfulness mean Jesus was false?
©Who is leading God's people today?
©Has Jesus' attitude changed?
©Has he approved all forms of worship?
©What happens to those that reject his PEACE LOVING GROUP due to the unfaithfulness of few?

Well faithless generation of your kind can't see all of these, you just want all forms of worship to be approved anyway.
David was God's anointed King, he committed adultery with Bathsheba, killed her husband and married her. JEHOVAH never killed David for this but was patient enough to see if he will repent!

So would you have continue serving JEHOVAH alongside David?
Would you have remained with Jesus alongside Judas Iscariot?
OK Jehovah should accept all forms worship and condemn Israel or Jehovah should have rejected Jesus for not removing Judas Iscariot from the twelve!

My friend, just stop mentioning me if you don't want more headaches added to the ones you're suffering presently!

Pure worship stands above all others, and those leading are imperfect humans like everyone else, the only sign Jesus promised will serve as the mark of identification is the LOVE, JOY and PEACE among adherents globally not perfect ministers!

Meanwhile you've been avoiding my question, which group are those leaving God's Organization going? Are they just sitting at home and worshiping in isolation?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and destroy the undeniable LOVE among them, bitter rumour peddlers will cry and cry and cry until they expire!

Emusan:


Are you saying people who subjected themselves to Bible study and got baptized didn't leave your organization?

MaxInDHouse:
Our people don return from market!

rottennaija:


Why do you always sound so embittered and pain?

Na exposure of your FALSEHOOD dey cause your sifia pains

Why do you Rott WAILER enjoy LYING on this forum?

Did you tell this forum Jesus Christ did NOT command house to house preaching?

Yes !

Janosky:


Na exposure of your FALSEHOOD dey cause your sifia pains

Why do you Rott WAILER enjoy LYING on this forum?

Did you tell this forum Jesus Christ did NOT command house to house preaching?

Yes !

Janosky:

MaxInDHouse:

achorladey:




The below is from your brother sorry friend Janosky.

We will appeal the Belgium court judgement. This is just the first half, the matter go still shele for court, even as far as the European Court ,if the need arises..........Janos


What made your post laughable is the use of this captured........bitter rumour peddlers will cry and cry and cry until they expire


Emphasis on bitter rumour peddler......a typical example on how you love to DIVERT.

How can rumour be a case in the court of law?

How can rumour become something to appeal at the court?

How can rumour be taken from Belgian courts to European courts?

The rumour even get second half


destroy the undeniable LOVE.........Max

Had their been undeniable love amidst the JWs how come the religious organization you belong to have APOSTATES(remember yours are not just apostates but DESPICABLE APOSTATES that will go up in smoke) just like every other religious organization out there? . That is another common denominator your organization share with every other ones out there before and after its existence.

Mightysparrow must definitely remember that apostates thread created by Mr Max aka nlGB about shunning APOSTATES

Oga rottenaija I don't know perhaps AM3 words concerning DESPICABLE APOSTATES was used as well in this case . That is enough to warrant another 12000 fine after all it was addressed specifically to ex-members of the JW organization.

achorladey:



Whenever he joins a discussion you go think set the professor that knows the A to Z about JWS has landed

Here are his words again.....I highly doubt that, because if you like, attend all our meetings whether for 10,20,30 years and you don’t subject yourself to a Bible study and get baptized, you won’t be counted as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.



Even those not baptized are counted as Jehovah's witnesses . He only needs to see the image below

MaxInDHouse:
ATTENTION! ATTENTION!! ATTENTION!!!
The Nigerian branch of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization will be celebrating a hundred years of zealous preaching and industrious teaching in the world's most populous black nation!

Congratulations my brothers and sisters, may JEHOVAH continue to strengthen us by means of his Holy Spirit in Jesus name. Amen!

Emusan:


So Jehovah witness is hundred years in Nigeria!

And what all your zealous preaching and industrious teaching can fetch you in hundred years is less than 1% of the population of Nigeria.

such a fruitless efforts.

Hear the word of Our Lord and Master on branch that bears NO FRUIT.

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be EVEN MORE fruitful. John 15:1-2

Emusan:


They are out there to lie for their god without shame.

That's why you see them saying many things opposite of what the organization believes.

And this is what they inherited from the same organization because Devil their father is father of liar.

Janosky:

Acts 2:42, "believers devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles.." (your Bible no call am 'teaching of Christ, e get why.

Janosky:

Acts 15:3-6 "the apostles and elders gathered together to look into this matter.."
Central control and command by the Governing Body , the leaders of Jehovah's Servants.

Janosky:

Were they perfect? Not at all...
Jehovah's [Watchtower] Servants today have copied that practice.

Janosky:

Bros,WAIL till kingdom come, no wahala[/b]

Janosky:

[b]Jesus said John 13:35 is the visible evidence for knowing Jehovah's Servants.

Janosky:

1 Cor 13:1-3, Matt 7:22,23, miracles is no evidence of Jehovah's approval.

Janosky:

Luke 24:21, Luke 19:11, the disciples made FALSE predictions & wrong expectations.

Janosky:

Luke24:25, Jesus said to them " how foolish you are and slow of heart to believe....

Janosky:

Acts 1:6-7, Jesus chastised them for their wrong expectations and predictions.

Janosky:

Luke 24:26 ,27,45 Jesus began teaching them all over again, granting them new light & understanding,

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 13:8,9,12, Paul said them no know everything, they were not perfect

Janosky:

Galatians 2:11-14, Matt26:33-35,71-74 were the disciples’ message & practice always consistent

Janosky:

Your professional relationship with your colleague has ended because his license was revoked.
In like manner, your relationship with excommunicated individuals have been revoked because Jesus Christ and your Bible says such relationship with fellow believers supersede family ties, Matt 10:32-40, 2 Thess 3:6, Romans 16:17, 2 John 1:9-11.

Janosky:

In like manner, your relationship with excommunicated individuals have been revoked because Jesus Christ and your Bible says such relationship with fellow believers supersede family ties, Matt 10:32-40, 2 Thess 3:6, Romans 16:17, 2 John 1:9-11.

Janosky:

See him LYING mouth.
Mr LIENUS posting GIBBERISH on this forum.

rottennaija:
I will advice you on this, once more - context.
Whenever you have any scriptures you feel suite your twisted narrative and theology, take some minutes, read the verses around it, probably 10 verse around them (as may be the case), likely, you will have a broaden view of it. Believe me, it will brighten your outlook and you will avoid the pitfall of a narrowed viewpoint.

(**1)
Good point. Not teachings of the governing body or WT organization.
What where these teachings of the apostles?

Ac 2:17, holy spirit poured to believers in the last days, they prophesied, spoke in tongues, saw vision
Ac 2:22 spoke about Jesus, his works, his death, his resurrection by God,
Ac 2:28 his listeners has been shown the way to life
Ac 2:36 continued speaking about Jesus, his throne, his crucifixion
Ac 2:38 the call to repent, turn to God, be baptized in the name of Jesus and receive the gift of the spirit
Ac 2:40 those who believed were baptized and added to the church (3000 on the day, that occassion)
Ac 2:42 teachings of the apostles led to baptism, communion and in prayer
Ac 2:47 daily, many who were being save were added to the church

( *2)
What else were the apostles doing?
Ac 3:1 went to the temple during prayer service
Eph 3:7-9 preaching about the Christ
Ac 18:5 preaching to the Jews about the Jesus
Ac 8:5 Philip preached the Christ

(*3)
Does the organization have JWs go to the temple or church for whatever reason? Can member of the governing body go to the church?
Do those you preach to get baptized after hearing the teachings about the Christ? DO you even preach about Jesus? Can you honestly say you are devoting yourselves to the teachings of the apostles?

What are the teachings of the Governing body/watchtower organization?

Earth turned into a paradise? Did any apostle ever preach that? Read the whole new testament and you will find them preaching about Jesus, having faith in Jesus and be save, having faith in Jesus and be born again, going to heaven etc. Not even one mention of some sugary paradise, not even one. As I had said early, can anyone teaching of the governing body be taught or believe in the first century? No even one.

1.)
The WAILER wants the Bible to suit his mumu GIBBERISH

Acts 2:17, speaking in tongues etc ,@1 Cor13:8, your Bible says those gifts will do what?

How would JWs preach about God's kingdom , without Jesus, when in fact, actually started the preaching of God's kingdom?
Person wey him parents na JW dey FALSELY claim we don't preach about Jesus, this Bros ,go & resolve your anger issues