true2god:
This reminds me of a friend who advised his girl friend to commit multiple abortion simply because the lady is not a JW. His excuse was that the lady is not a JW but was sleeping with her. This is what I see with my own eyes.

Emusan:

@MaxInHouse this is another testimony
Or was this from the enemy of your demonic organization too?

MaxInDHouse:
This reminds me of an Apostle who sold Jesus for money so Jesus wasn't qualified to teach, shey?
What we are saying is not what an individual did but what the Organization teaches so try to get things straight Sir!

true2god:
Sorry bro, I am not here to banter or entertain immature minds. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy in jw where a jw friend was sleeping with a lady and the lady did countless abortion for him. Whats his excuse? He cannot marry her because she is not a witness and that his jw family will disown him if he marries an unbeliever. The lady he was sleeping with attends RCCG which makes her an unbeliever while he was a believer for being a jw. Can you see how pathetic the reasoning is?

MaxInDHouse:
Judas Iscariot sold Jesus for cash nah!

So Jesus was the head of a DEMONIC group shey?

What is the name of your church?

Emusan:

Yes, you brother Iscariot sold our Master for cash

Your father the Devil is the head of Demonic spirits which your organization belongs to.

What is the name of Peter, Paul, Phillip, e.t.c church?

MaxInDHouse:
I perfectly understand you what i want to point out is not much, the truth is both of them aren't believers.

So this is not about the JW but two religionists from different sects practicing what the Bible condemns, therefore it will be totally unfair if you come hear emphasizing that the evil deed should be mounted on a group whereas the partner in crime also belong to another sect claiming Christian as well!

Does that mean the RCCG taught her to engage in premarital sex? Or does that mean the church will approve her numerous abortions? Or does that mean the church want their females to go about using sex to bribe men for marriage?

God bless you and may you have PEACE?

MaxInDHouse:
Of course Judas Iscariot was one of our brothers in Christ {Matthew 12:46-49} he only fell out due to his love for riches! {1Timothy 6:9-10} that's why it's very important that a Christian focus on the more important things and concentrate during Christian meetings {Hebrews 10:24-25} Judas wouldn't have fallen into Satan's snare if he guard against greed! Luke 12:15

OK nah!

So why are you always around to comment against just one particular group also claiming Christians if you don't want to talk about different churches?

Abeg what is the name of your church?
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Emusan:

@underlined 1: But this same fellow was part of your happily LOVE one global family and among the over 8m JWs. How many are in this guy's shoes right that are still part of your happily LOVE global family? You can see the reason I do said you're a hypocrite! You'll be painting JWs as if it wasn't made up by human, whereas the same thing found in other religious groups still happening within your demonic organization.
No wonder you're always shouting LOVE LOVE when many are living in self denial.
@underlined 2: Is good as you agree that Jehovah witness is a SECT. None of your questions are Yes! but the point is, many who made up your over 8m happily family, one line of thought, having ONLY perfect LOVE among themselves as you do ranting online here are nothing but just like other religious people.
Can you see why you need to accept Bible standard rather than defending the 8 old lying men? Which God?
Do you have Peace?

Emusan:

Good as you admit to that!So you belong to the group of Iscariot because he allows his father the Devil to deceive him. Na sooo

Oponu, go through my post on Nairaland, I do comment on Islam until that oath was placed, I do comment on politics, I do comment in romance section, I do comment in science section e.t.c. I'm not a brainwashed person like you whose post is 99.9% on religion section. Definitely, something is wrong with your faith, which is the reason you're spending sleepless nights on religion section.

Abeg what is the name of Peter, Paul, Phillip e.t.c church We are the Body of Christ!

MaxInDHouse:
Oh Mr Emusan the post wasn't addressed to you Sir, so allow the person to whom it was addressed respond!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus called Judas Iscariot "brother" {Matthew 12:46-49} so he was a brother in Christ!

Good! so my mission for commenting differs from yours! Ephesians 5:15-17

No! It's evident you have no life outside Nairaland and you're not sure of your faith reason, you spend nights and days consoling yourself with plenty posts.

[quote]Your eyes is pushing me!

Emusan:

After your hypocrisy has been exposed, you remember a post must be addressed to someone before responding.
Were all your comments on Nairaland directly a post addressed to you?
Hypocrite!

Emusan:

Before your father the Devil snatched him away just as he is doing right now in your demonic organization.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus called Judas Iscariot "brother" and everyone knew that it was the love of money that Satan used to break Judas's integrity, he later regretted his actions.

So Emusan Judas Iscariot still have a conscience that he belongs to Jesus despite the betrayal that's why he couldn't bear the heartbreak.
Nobody feels like Judas Iscariot yet preaching zealously and teaching industriously for the wrong group Sir!

What is the name of your Church?

MaxInDHouse:
When people ask questions about something that seems not right to them, intelligent response often leave them in amazement making them see where they need to work on!

You may have slaughtered your conscience but others still have it,

the other commentator spoke from the point of view of a sincere observe but i've opened his eyes to see the flaws in his sense of judging.

So he can't say anything further

but trust ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan, you'll just find a way to continue arguing blindly even when it's clear that there's nothing to argue about!

Emusan:

Just as your father the Devil is using his tactics to break you people integrity.

Yet with fruitless efforts for over 100years!
Why denying the identity of your church?
Only a demon possessed can be twisting truth like your demonic organization does

MaxInDHouse:
I perfectly understand you what i want to point out is not much, the truth is both of them aren't believers. The Bible is not in support of premarital sex so both are disqualified, as for the so called JW even the congregation will punish him if this comes to the hearing of the elders.
Where you're getting it mixed up is he will be compelled to marry her if she's also a JW but once she's not then there's no ground upon which he can be forced to marry her!
So this is not about the JW but two religionists from different sects practicing what the Bible condemns, therefore it will be totally unfair if you come hear emphasizing that the evil deed should be mounted on a group whereas the partner in crime also belong to another sect claiming Christian as well!
Does that mean the RCCG taught her to engage in premarital sex? Or does that mean the church will approve her numerous abortions? Or does that mean the church want their females to go about using sex to bribe men for marriage?
God bless you and may you have PEACE?

true2god:
Maybe you don’t understand the basis of my argument. Premarital sex is bad and abortion is very bad but the reason I brought up this issue is to tell you the reason why this jw brother decided never to marry this lady. The reason is related to the topic we are discussing; that the jw group and his family will disown/shun/disfellowship him if he marries a non-jw. Which means that if this lady was a jw, despite their sexual immorality, she will still be accepted by his family and the jw. I once dated a jw lady who told me same thing, that the only basis for our continued social relationship is for me to join the group which I am/was not ready to do hence the relationship broke. We can be in the same house and still have a minor disagreement in principles. Paul and Barnabas, though both are apostles of Jesus, have divergent views but still remain one in the Christian fold. Paul and Peter have divergent views, especially whther gentiles should follow the Jewish customs and tradition, or not, yet none call each other apostates and unbelievers.

What I see here is that jw family/friends do not give room for their members to have alternative and dissenting biblical view which itself is a form of passive tyranny and psychological aggression

So what I am saying in essence is that doctrinal difference is not a new thing in the Christian faith, it is as old as Christianity itself. JW hence doesn’t have monopoly of ‘Truth’ hence if anyone chooses to leave the fold as a result of divergent/differences in view/theology, jw should not make the person look bad or demonize such a person. This practice of shunning is passive tyranny by the JW; it can break family, community and friends. Look beyond an organization’s doctrine/dogma and see things from a rational point of view.

DappaD:


I wish we could take this to some other thread, can we? Because the bolded caught my attention.
Please was the disagreement between Paul and Barnabas a result of doctrinal differences? If not, why bringing up something totally unrelated?Acts 15:36-40



Please if everybody is having different and conflicting views, then how will the unity that Jesus prayed for his disciples be achieved? John 17:20-23 see also 1Corinthians 1:10

It was the same Paul you’re quoting that made the following statement at 1Timothy 6:3-5
“If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion, he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words. These things give rise to envy, strife, slander, wicked suspicions, constant disputes about minor matters by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain”

So why was Paul not giving room for conflicting views and telling the congregation to avoid any who brought a different teaching? Romans 16:17


What you failed to realise is that this thing called “DIVINE TRUTH” is never relative as in it can never have two sides, it has to be absolute. Ephesians 4:5

From my own experience, it is not today I began hearing people talking about “rational thinking” and all of that. If truth was indeed relative, then Jesus was actually lying at John 14:6 where he said that he was the only channel to approach God.
Certainly, from your own POV, Buddha, Mohammed are also channels to get to the true God so that makes Jesus’ statement incorrect at John 14:6, yes?

Also, if truth was relative, then Hymenaeus whom Paul(the man you quoted earlier) labelled a dissenter was also correct when he said that the resurrection had begun to take place in the first century, so why was Paul being “arrogant” and why did he not agree with Hymenaeus’ POV? 2Timothy 2:16-18

true2god:
Maybe you don’t understand the basis of my argument. Premarital sex is bad and abortion is very bad but the reason I brought up this issue is to tell you the reason why this jw brother decided never to marry this lady. The reason is related to the topic we are discussing; that the jw group and his family will disown/shun/disfellowship him if he marries a non-jw. Which means that if this lady was a jw, despite their sexual immorality, she will still be accepted by his family and the jw. I once dated a jw lady who told me same thing, that the only basis for our continued social relationship is for me to join the group which I am/was not ready to do hence the relationship broke.

What I see here is that jw family/friends do not give room for their members to have alternative and dissenting biblical view which itself is a form of passive tyranny and psychological aggression. We can be in the same house and still have a minor disagreement in principles. Paul and Barnabas, though both are apostles of Jesus, have divergent views but still remain one in the Christian fold. Paul and Peter have divergent views, especially whther gentiles should follow the Jewish customs and tradition, or not, yet none call each other apostates and unbelievers.

So what I am saying in essence is that doctrinal difference is not a new thing in the Christian faith, it is as old as Christianity itself. JW hence doesn’t have monopoly of ‘Truth’ hence if anyone chooses to leave the fold as a result of divergent/differences in view/theology, jw should not make the person look bad or demonize such a person. This practice of shunning is passive tyranny by the JW; it can break family, community and friends. Look beyond an organization’s doctrine/dogma and see things from a rational point of view.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry i left the thread but if you want to chat with me please open a thread and let's discuss on any topic of your choice!

true2god:
The issue I am emphasizing is the JW’s philosophy of inciting hatred against anyone who leaves their organization. Like if a man leaves JW while his wife is still a member, they have the tendency of breaking their marriage. It is not like that in other Christian organization where there will still be harmony even if both partners are not attending the same church.

MaxInDHouse:
I know you have a lot in your mind, for instance you first talked about the lady your friend refused to marry then it was linked to hatred against ex members and i'm pretty sure you still have made more topics at heart.
So open another thread and let's chat at least you don't expect to launch a complaint and walk away without knowing why things happen the way you feel it shouldn't.
I am not comfortable chatting on this particular thread so please i'm leaving the thread!

true2god:
No one is forcing you to contribute to this thread. The truth is that JW’s policy of shunning, ostracising, and ‘disowning’ erring members, especially any member who is tired of their organization, is bad and should be condemned by any right thinking person. I am very sure 100 years ago there was no JW in Nigeria and we don’t have this peculiar problem.

true2god:
This reminds me of a friend who advised his girl friend to commit multiple abortion simply because the lady is not a JW. His excuse was that the lady is not a JW but was sleeping with her. This is what I see with my own eyes.

true2god:
Sorry bro, I am not here to banter or entertain immature minds. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy in jw where a jw friend was sleeping with a lady and the lady did countless abortion for him. Whats his excuse? He cannot marry her because she is not a witness and that his jw family will disown him if he marries an unbeliever. The lady he was sleeping with attends RCCG which makes her an unbeliever while he was a believer for being a jw. Can you see how pathetic the reasoning is?

Emusan:


@underlined 1: But this same fellow was part of your happily LOVE one global family and among the over 8m JWs.

How many are in this guy's shoes right that are still part of your happily LOVE global family?

You can see the reason I do said you're a hypocrite!

You'll be painting JWs as if it wasn't made up by human, whereas the same thing found in other religious groups still happening within your demonic organization.

No wonder you're always shouting LOVE LOVE when many are living in self denial.

@underlined 2: Is good as you agree that Jehovah witness is a SECT.




None of your questions are Yes! but the point is, many who made up your over 8m happily family, one line of thought, having ONLY perfect LOVE among themselves as you do ranting online here are nothing but just like other religious people.

Can you see why you need to accept Bible standard rather than defending the 8 old lying men?



Which God?
Do you have Peace?

MaxInDHouse:
Na wa o!
Just because you feel like arguing everything has turned upside down inside your brain shey?

The highlighted clearly exposed how deluded you are!
You are claiming JWs Organization belong to Satan which automatically means they're worshiping Satan. But the same you now said "their father the Devil (Satan) is using tactics to break their integrity"
Let's assume you're saying something worthwhile, if Satan is using tactics to break their integrity against who will such integrity be broken?
Jesus said "a Kingdom divided against itself can not stand" {Matthew 12:25}

Abeg Emusan i'm not supposed to be on this particular thread

but i just love teasing you so that everyone can see how stupid and deluded unintelligent antagonists of the truth can be.

Farewell!

achorladey:

He admit correctly that they too are a religious sect

true2god:
No one is forcing you to contribute to this thread. The truth is that JW’s policy of shunning, ostracising, and ‘disowning’ erring members, especially any member who is tired of their organization, is bad and should be condemned by any right thinking person. I am very sure 100 years ago there was no JW in Nigeria and we don’t have this peculiar problem.

true2god:
Sorry bro, I am not here to banter or entertain immature minds. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy in jw where a jw friend was sleeping with a lady and the lady did countless abortion for him. Whats his excuse? He cannot marry her because she is not a witness and that his jw family will disown him if he marries an unbeliever. The lady he was sleeping with attends RCCG which makes her an unbeliever while he was a believer for being a jw. Can you see how pathetic the reasoning is?

achorladey:


He admit correctly that they too are a religious sect