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illicit:
Exactly, that's another reason why the Protestants don't accept it, they believe there is no place for God in it, that's it's just human....
But then some books in the Protestants Bible is pure fiction anyway, like the book of Job....

You know, I disagree with people who say Job is pure fiction cause the writing is too good to be just imagined. I have read that particular book several times myself and each time I come away believing that it had to be based, to a great extent on a true story.

Kobojunkie:
You know, I disagree with people who say Job is pure fiction cause the writing is too good to be just imagined. I have read that particular book several times myself and each time I come away believing that it had to be based, to a great extent on a true story.

Hmmmm it's actually fiction, it is a folktale that assimilated elements of truth along the line....


For example, Satan no longer appear in the presence of God but in the book of Job, he comes to heaven at will to meet God. God was even asking him where he has been....


All the disasters that happened to job singled him out when he wasn't an island.... i.e earthquake destroyed just his properties and left that of neighbours.... can you imagine


In reality, no one suffers that much without recanting

"The authority said these words differ slightly from other Bible versions, shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form"

Of course it will be different from other versions as usual as we often see many of them today, but hypocrites will claim things that are different are the same.

This discovery only amazes me in terms of how old the stuffs are and it's good to know more about history, but this doesn't and will not claim the bible was only written at first by some people with their own believes called christianity today, nobody can know the begining of earth and how humans also came into place on earth.
If the spiritual christians visions and prophecy nowadays are real enough, but they can't able to tell us about things in other planets and their history.
If every belief can be a religion, then science is my religion.

wasol:


I totally agree with you.
This is a confirmation of what will shortly befall the earth through World War III as revealed to Missionary John-Sogbete Princewill.
visit: www.messengerjspee..com
to read details...
...THE GOOD-SHEPHERD'S MISSIONARIES' FIELD...
...voices crying in the wilderness...

Friday, 28 October 2016
GREED, WICKEDNESS AND CELEBRATION OF IMMORALITY HAVE PROJECTED THE EARTH FOR WORLD WAR THREE (3) BEGINNING WITH AFRICA...

Another conspiracy theory

sunshineV:
so dumb christians will accept this finding but won't accept other finding by the same people when its dating back to 6 million years. na ment

Get wisdom! Its dumbness to believe everything!

illicit:
Hmmmm it's actually fiction, it is a folktale that assimilated elements of truth along the line....
For example, Satan no longer appear in the presence of God but in the book of Job, he comes to heaven at will to meet God. God was even asking him where he has been....

Satan no longer appear in the presence of God? Says who? Isn't that the same Satan who appeared before Jesus Christ? The same Satan who requested to have Peter tested - Jesus Christ praying for Peter instead of rebuking Satan then?

See, from reading all I have read, I have come away believing that the popular narrative out there about the person of Satan is not even close to the truth of God as far as Satan is concerned.

illicit:
All the disasters that happened to job singled him out when he wasn't an island.... i.e earthquake destroyed just his properties and left that of neighbours.... can you imagine

Actually, it does not say that only his property was destroyed. No, instead Job was the main character, so the story focuses on his person and his tragedy and not that of others.

illicit:
In reality, no one suffers that much without recanting

That is not true at all.
I can relate to Jobs suffering in so many ways and I know of stories of people who have been down there... close to saying "FU GOD" but chosen to hold themselves back from it.

Kobojunkie:
Satan no longer appear in the presence of God? Says who? Isn't that the same Satan who appeared before Jesus Christ? The same Satan who requested to have Peter tested - Jesus Christ praying for Peter instead of rebuking Satan then?

See, from reading all I have read, I have come away believing that the popular narrative out there about the person of Satan is not even close to the truth of God as far as Satan is concerned.
Actually, it does not say that only his property was destroyed. No, instead Job was the main character, so the story focuses on his person and his tragedy and not that of others.
That is not true at all.
I can relate to Jobs suffering in so many ways and I know of stories of people who have been down there... close to saying "FU GOD" but chosen to hold themselves back from it.

Satan was banished from heaven in Genesis....


It was only his properties that were destroyed because Satan specifically singled him out....
His children, his cattle, his wealth all gone in a jiffy....


I pray u really don't relate to what happened to Job in that tale, it's horrible

It was all fiction, it didn't happen....

There was no real Job

shugamummy:
Say for instance the Catholic Church did not compile the Bible. It just exists in the manuscripts written by the original authors, what would be your argument about what God wants and how He wants us to worship him? You will only rely on the teachings of the priests correct? We tend to be too materialistic about the things of God. We subject it to so much intellectual analysis

The Catholic church actually wanted to hide the Bible from mankind with this move. they gathered all available manuscripts, translated into Latin, and only priest were eligible to own a Bible.
It was actually the Protestant that made the Bible available to the common man.
Remember the Catholic church burned the people who translated the first few English Bible to death.
Anyone who made an attempt to read or own a Bible was killed, until the people started revolting.

AntiChristian:


You answered nothing here. God wrote the biography of Jesus.

Even the scripture that was found in israel was slightly different from the one in use now. Na God write am too.

All the copies of the scriptures available, no two are entirely the same.

Just believe with faith.

I prefer talking with people who can reason a little. not someone that talks about what he don't know.

justosee:

I am not talking about the Catholic Bible with more chapters.
I am talking about the 66 books KJV version that has more verses than other 66 books Bible.

Bro, verses omitted or included are not manipulated Scriptures.

It is all due to translation philosophies.

There is one Bible, with many versions.

mu2sa2:
Catholic bible is distinct from kjv, yes agreed. That's why your assertion of "same" bible is wrong.

you should at least understand what is being discussed before jumping in

BluntTheApostle:


Bro, verses omitted or included are not manipulated Scriptures.

It is all due to translation philosophies.

There is one Bible, with many versions.

Knowingly including your own thoughts, or doctrine in the Bible as an extra verse is manipulation.

illicit:
Satan was banished from heaven in Genesis....

Where in Genesis did you read of this?

illicit:
It was only his properties that were destroyed because Satan specifically singled him out....
His children, his cattle, his wealth all gone in a jiffy....

Well, Satan may have singled him out but we are not told that it was ONLY his property that was destroyed though.

illicit:
I pray u really don't relate to what happened to Job in that tale, it's horrible

There is a lot of suffering in the world we live in and many people endure even worse than what he, Job, had to.

illicit:
It was all fiction, it didn't happen....
There was no real Job

I have my doubts.

Kobojunkie:
I don't know about that. Someone else would tell you that qualification could be applied as far as the very books in your bible today.

All the books in the bible met certain standard

BePrepared:
All the books in the bible met certain standard

Met whose standard?
You mean you never asked yourself by whose standard those books that are today in the Bible were chosen?

Truefaith:
God uses every opportunity to remind man of the authenticity of the Bible

It is the only book that has God's signature and approval.

The book describes the birth of the universe; it also describes its end.


It predicted that Israel would be reborn in its original territory: something the world had never seen.

It also predicted that false prophets and false teachers would seize the church and would be known as its leaders; that, too, has happened.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qGVHchsa4o

..true

seunmsg:


I still don’t get why lots of you always jump to quickly conclude that I’m a Muslim. Have I ever promoted Islam on this site or what?

It's because your comments give you away. One cannot fake it. Commenting lori iro on a thread like this. No true Christian would do that.

Sheggy13:

It's because your comments give you away. One cannot fake it. Commenting lori iro on a thread like this. No true Christian would do that.

I can’t remember ever claiming to be a Christian on this forum.

Ayomide252:
..the prophecy is true..but I don't think the false teachers and false prophets seizing the church and being the leader has happened..it has not happened..but it's about to happen..there is a false church here in nigeria. that wants to restructure the church..and will tell every other churches all over the world..what churches should do and must not..and as I speak they working on it.. getting the help of the government for it to be possible..

If this were true, what do you call a 'Christian' leader who raised a rod in a 'Christian' religious assembly of more than 300,000 and asked people to look at it and pray?

Is it Peter or Paul or Jeremiah or Daniel Nigerian 'Christian' leaders in RCCG or Winners or Deeper Life or MFM or SYNAGOGUE emulate when they DECREE to God?

justosee:

I prefer talking with people who can reason a little. not someone that talks about what he don't know.

What i don't know? Are you bragging now
You can say what I don't believe but calling me an ignoramus makes you a liar.

Viciheaka:

Clap for yourself.
Just ans my question nah I dey beg you
You go dash me one virgin for that side

I asked a question then he replied with a question without answering the question.

Then he is asking for a virgin from me just like in Numbers 31

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

No....sense.

Righteousness2:


This is not an ordinary discovery/ Finding!
This is a Deliberate act of the ALMIGHTY MERCIFUL GOD. He is Passing a Concious message to the World on what is about to hit the Earth.

Let us Hear o Inhabitants of the Earth! Heed to this message! Repent and Make Peace with JESUS so as not to be Here to witness the Coming Destruction.

They that Have Ears to Hear! Let us Hear!

Jesus why not God

Raggedyness2:


[s]This is not an ordinary discovery/ Finding!
This is a Deliberate act of the ALMIGHTY MERCIFUL GOD. He is Passing a Concious message to the World on what is about to hit the Earth.

Let us Hear o Inhabitants of the Earth! Heed to this message! Repent and Make Peace with JESUS so as not to be Here to witness the Coming Destruction.

They that Have Ears to Hear! Let us Hear!

[/s]

Would you just shut the fvck up...

illicit:
If u accept this then u should accept the Apocrypha too

Have you ever heard that the Apocrypha or part of it had ever been discovered in scrolls any where in the world. It tells you something

sunshineV:
so dumb christians will accept this finding but won't accept other finding by the same people when its dating back to 6 million years. na ment

At the fullness of time this statement will come back to hunt you for all time to come if you don't repent. Over the years there have been mockers and scoffers like you but this same book they mock has outlived them all. You will be judged according to this same book you choose to trample upon whether you like it or not so keep on mocking.

Truefaith:


If this were true, what do you call a 'Christian' leader who raised a rod in a 'Christian' religious assembly of more than 300,000 and asked people to look at it and pray?

Is it Peter or Paul or Jeremiah or Daniel Nigerian 'Christian' leaders in RCCG or Winners or Deeper Life or MFM or SYNAGOGUE emulate when they DECREE to God?

.. see..what the book is saying is..false teachers and prophets..men that are not of God..will seize(control)the church(churches in different denomination)and will be leading..the book is not saying false servants of God will be leading various churches..but false servants of God will control the churches all over the world and lead all the church..and I can tell you with all confidence.. the church that will control the churches and lead..is in this our nigeria..they want to control the churches all over the world.. telling the church all over the world what to do and not

themanderon:


At the fullness of time this statement will come back to hunt you for all time to come if you don't repent. Over the years there have been mockers and scoffers like you but this same book they mock has outlived them all. You will be judged according to this same book you choose to trample upon whether you like it or not so keep on mocking.

rest. a book is a book

AntiChristian:
All na scripture!

1. Who wrote it?

2. When and where was it written?

3. What's the credibility of the writer?

4. Why is it that no two scriptures found are exactly alike?

Other questions!

1. Do you follow all the laws from Genesis to revelation in your Bible?
2. When was the Bible as it is today first compiled?
3. Can you mention the Books/chapters it contained?
4. How was each book authenticated?
5. Who were the writer of each Books?
6. And how can we ascertain these writers of the OT and NT?
7. Who were the copyists of each of the Bible Books?
8. How was it preserved from generation to generation?
9. What do you think of John 5:7 in the KJV and in the other recent Bible versions?

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Nice questions.but you can't get answers for every question.. doesn't mean those activities ain't true.like..where were you before you were given birth to?.
How do you know it's your mother that gave birth to you?..cos you were only told.
Too many questions..
Too many confusions..

Kobojunkie:
Met whose standard?
You mean you never asked yourself by whose standard those books that are today in the Bible were chosen?

The standard of the church, the body of Christ.

Kobojunkie:
I don't know about that. Someone else would tell you that qualification could be applied as far as the very books in your bible today.

The standard was set by the church the body of Christ, Jesus has already given the church that authority as his body.

Do you have problem with that