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Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 10:14am On May 01, 2011
See what God has done. 30th year anniversary and still standing. Be our guess ts week as we celebrate GOD at Living Faith Church Worldwide aka Winners' Chapel
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 12:47pm On May 01, 2011
30 years of fraud by Oyedepo you mean!
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 1:15pm On May 01, 2011
@EmmyK

I dont want to rain on your parade - but Oyede4planes is a fraud:

1) He has at least 2 planes (maybe 4) in a country where people die from malaria and lack of drugs
2) His 'calling' seems to be family based - his two sons run the branches in London and New York (note these are nice locations not in some small town in Northern Nigeria)
3) His promises about wealth - after 30 years why are his followers still as poor as the rest of the population
4) His vanity - the URL of the church website is http://www.davidoyedepoministries.org/ - if you go to the homepage of the website - his picture and that of his wife appear alternatively
5) He is on record as saying to be rich - prayers and fasting do not work - only tithing and giving money does - what if you have no money to give ? Are you destined for poverty ?
6) He is on record as saying 'dont borrow money' - why do they receive offerings via credit cards then ?
7) His falling out with his pastor in Ghana exposed how money is smuggled into Nigeria (illegally)
cool Why does he charge fees in his university that the average member of his congregation cannot afford ?

I can go into details about any of the above points - this guy is a FRAUD.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 4:53pm On May 01, 2011
Na u sabi o. Suit yourselves and the blessing is yours
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 5:01pm On May 01, 2011
Btw, I dont care about underground things. I only go to church to worship God. Do you go to church to note other people's achievements? And d new university levy has reduced for church members. Per what you score in JAMB. 25 person reduction.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 6:50pm On May 01, 2011
@Emmyk

you said
Btw, I dont care about underground things. I only go to church to worship God

Then why did you come and post the anniversary crap here ?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Pukkah: 7:12pm On May 01, 2011
Religion remains the opium of the masses. The wise and the elite use it as an instrument to manipulate the already hapless and helpless masses. The discerning know that there is a difference between 'belief' and 'truth'.

Say whatever you like to the brainwashed people and they continue to sink deeper and deeper.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Joagbaje(m): 2:39am On May 02, 2011
Emmyk:

See what God has done. 30th year anniversary and still standing. Be our guess ts week as we celebrate GOD at Living Faith Church Worldwide aka Winners' Chapel

Congrats
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 9:35am On May 03, 2011
@Earswide, cos ur screaming to know if an average memba can aford uni fee. Wait, do you believe in God? I doubt it. I pray you wont use ur mouth to destroy yourself. Like ur church pastors are wretched.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 10:35am On May 03, 2011
@Emmyk

@Earswide, cos your screaming to know if an average memba can aford uni fee

Some advice - when you post a message, try to make some sense.

Wait, do you believe in God? I doubt it. I pray you wont use your mouth to destroy yourself. Like your church pastors are wretched.
I do believe in God and I believe in honesty, compassion and integrity as well - none of which Oyedepo seems to believe in.

Why would he need 2 planes(or maybe 4) to do his work ? He is fleecing the poor to support an extravagant lifestyle - it is despicable.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Azibalua(f): 1:41pm On May 03, 2011
@ ears wide
Who says the finances involved in these laudable projects are from offerings
I think in your case ignorance is a disease
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 2:17pm On May 03, 2011
Azibalua, tell him. Earswide, do you breed poverty in ur church or what? Why wud u wanna die cos of Oyedepo. Hogar o. Ignorance is no defence, anyway. Hahahaha. Do you have issues with planes? I mean, u have been saying that for years. Poverty is not good for you. Capische?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 2:20pm On May 03, 2011
Earswide, do you monitor the alocation of ur church's offering or what?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 2:28pm On May 03, 2011
EarsWide:

I do believe in God and I believe in honesty, compassion and integrity as well - none of which Oyedepo seems to believe in.
Hypocrite! You poccess those in ur dreams. Dream on. I can see the level of ur honesty here. Blattered liar.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Joagbaje(m): 3:33pm On May 03, 2011
Emmyk:

Earswide, do you monitor the alocation of your church's offering or what?

That's if he attends any church in the first place. If you stay in glass house you don't throw stones. Most people who make sport of attcking churches are spiritual vagabonds . They dont attend any church. But rather look for ways to destract those whi are serving God somewhere just like the devil .
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 4:48pm On May 03, 2011
It is clear now why Africa is messed up - a man who is collecting millions in tithes and offerings is supposed to collect and spend the money without any oversight ? How st*pid is that ?

The arguments put forward by defenders of these frauds tend to be along the lines of 'Is it your money' - this I find amusing coming from christians. If we only cared about things which affected us - what sort of a world would it be ? It does not need to be my money for me to feel for the people conned who are obviously desperate and vulnerable.

Another line of argument is that anyone who looks closely at these frauds - is immediately called a demon - Pastor Jo is now calling me a spiritual vagabond  grin grin grin. I beg to differ o, my skills do not extend into the spiritual (neither do the skills of your 419 charlatans Oyedepo, Oyaks etc) I heard that liar Oyedepo say 'I can never be sick' yet he rushed his wife to the best doctors when she was sick - why did he not tithe\give money to ensure her recovery or use his 'annointing oil' to heal her ? He too knows the limits of his lies -  deep down he knows that he is a financial vagabond and a charlatan.

Oyedepo is a fraud who will be exposed eventually - same applies to 'fried hair' Oyaks and co.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Pukkah: 5:45pm On May 03, 2011
EarsWide:

It is clear now why Africa is messed up - a man who is collecting millions in tithes and offerings is supposed to collect and spend the money without any oversight ? How st*pid is that ?

The arguments put forward by defenders of these frauds tend to be along the lines of 'Is it your money' - this I find amusing coming from christians. If we only cared about things which affected us - what sort of a world would it be ? It does not need to be my money for me to feel for the people conned who are obviously desperate and vulnerable.

Another line of argument is that anyone who looks closely at these frauds - is immediately called a demon - Pastor Jo is now calling me a spiritual vagabond  grin grin grin. I beg to differ o, my skills do not extend into the spiritual (neither do the skills of your 419 charlatans Oyedepo, Oyaks etc) I heard that liar Oyedepo say 'I can never be sick' yet he rushed his wife to the best doctors when she was sick - why did he not tithe\give money to ensure her recovery or use his 'annointing oil' to heal her ? He too knows the limits of his lies -  deep down he knows that he is a financial vagabond and a charlatan.

Oyedepo is a fraud who will be exposed eventually - same applies to 'fried hair' Oyaks and co.


When was the wife sick?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 5:47pm On May 03, 2011
Mr. Holier dan thou. What church do u attend?! I see you are doomed. Keep saying negative things about men of God. And Lastly, I pray you dont die trying to make money. You are truely a spiritual vagabon. Why do u know bout Oyedepo's life more than your dad's? Can we hear your dad's achievement or any notable thing ur dad eva made   Perhaps,
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 5:56pm On May 03, 2011
Pukkah:

When was the wife sick?
few years back. She was seriously attack by a witch-gurl who ate at their table.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 6:31pm On May 03, 2011
@EmmyK

you said
few years back. She was seriously attack by a witch-gurl who ate at their table.

Why do you clowns see witches in everything ? She was attacked by a witch-girl ? you guys are crazy!!! The witches in the world must be very busy because at least 5 - 10% of the world population are sick at any point in time. By the way are the witch attacks restricted to Africa or are they international  grin grin grin

She was sick like anyone else can be sick and the fraud Oyedepo realised she needed a real doctor not a fraud like himself so he found her appropiate care - which is more than he will do for his congregation. If she was attacked by a witch-girl why did she need a doctor, why didnt he use his powers (remember HE CAN NEVER BE SICK  grin grin grin) - surely you see how st*pid you sound ?

By the way before I get 'Are you a christian' remarks - I am and I believe God heals but please this crap about witches been responsible for all the sicknesses in the world is just complete crap. Remember John 9 3

“Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

So please lets have less of these witches crap - it is one of the reasons why Africa is so backward: we are too scared of our own shadows
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 10:55pm On May 03, 2011
Only to say the name of ur church brings about this long sermon? Why do I even give a hoot to reply u in d first place. You need to get a real life and start attending a church. Devil's incarnate. Guess this is my last reply,I see u have no job. GET ONE, Hobo. Get A life, dag!
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Winnerslfc(m): 9:38am On May 04, 2011
@Emyc,
great post. I came here yesterday to post this but network was bad.
Happy anivasery to all genuine members of this great liberation camp.
Over the years, God has remained faithful in backing and proving His words with signs and wonders.
As He said to his servant Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo (PHD) after an eighteen hours vision
"From the begining it was not so but now, The hour has come to liberate the world from all opressions of the devil through the preaching of the word of faith and I am sending you to undertake this task."

Gone are those days when we border about the foolishness of some folks who keep talking down their destiny on their bid to bring down the work of God. The bible says when this happens, God has no other option but to laugh because He knows that those men are vanity (Psalms 2:4)
And who the hell said we are poor?
Is any member complaining of missing offerings?
Oh! No wonder there is much poverty in churches today. People believe that Christianity is just suffering and persecution. Who told you that God is poor? so why should you who was created in His image be?
Please keep the criticisms coming (atleast that shows that we are making progress).
The more you criticise, the more we increase and the more you decrease.
God have this to say.
"Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake." (Isaiah 54:15).
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 1:03pm On May 04, 2011
@WinnersLFC

you said
As He said to his servant Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo (PHD) after an eighteen hours vision

According to Oyede4planes abi ? grin grin grin
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Winnerslfc(m): 3:09pm On May 04, 2011
Guy!
It doesn't do mature minds any good to argue unnecessarily.
In response to your question.
GOD ALSO BEARING THEM WITNESS WITH SIGNS AND WONDERS AND DIVERSE MIRACLES.
Hebrews 2:4
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by sleekymag(m): 3:54pm On May 04, 2011
Congratulations to Living Faith a.ka. Winners Chapel, God is good!
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by dare2think: 4:30pm On May 04, 2011
Winnerslfc:

Over the years, God has remained faithful in backing and proving His words with signs and wonders.
As He said to his servant Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo (PHD) after an eighteen hours vision
"From the begining it was not so but now, The hour has come to liberate the world from all opressions of the devil through the preaching of the word of faith and I am sending you to undertake this task."


@winnerslfc
This is what I dont get. God sent him to "liberate the world from all opressions of the devil through the preaching of faith, "

Last time I checked, the world is still opressed, natural disasters still occurring, terrorism still active, religious violence still prevalent, children still dying of hunger around africa and the list goes on.

So,pls which world was he sent to liberate?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 4:31pm On May 04, 2011
Bless you, partner. Ur words are so true, expecially those after the blue lettered. U saw power uti yesternite? Did he beat super festus?? #justwannaknow. Lol. How I wish earswide has an official website to criticize winners' church.
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by dare2think: 4:35pm On May 04, 2011
Winnerslfc:

Oh! No wonder there is much poverty in churches today. People believe that Christianity is just suffering and persecution. Who told you that God is poor? so why should you who was created in His image be?
Please keep the criticisms coming (atleast that shows that we are making progress).

And is God concerned about earthly riches?
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by Emmyk(m): 4:42pm On May 04, 2011
@dare2think, hope u dont mind if I put in some words? Those underlisted by you are the irrevocable things which was already written in the bible long ago. Mattew 24 has it all. And the liberation u said is for those that believe in it. Because believing is seeing. God has liberated thousands since He call him. Just try to watch today's programme via internet and hear diverse instant miracles. Ur blessed
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 5:14pm On May 04, 2011
@EmmyK

You guys at Winners chapel are a bunch of clowns  tongue

What signs and wonders do you guys have ? Even if your claims of riches were true - the secular world is still far richer than you clowns are.

The thing you clowns and your Man of Fraud dont realize is that christianity has nothing to do with earthly wealth - the riches mentioned in the bible by Jesus is not pounds or dollars - your MOF has been lying and misleading you for 30 years.

Go and read your bible carefully - see what Jesus says about wealth and rich people - dont take my word for it - READ THE BIBLE YOURSELF!
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by EarsWide(m): 5:16pm On May 04, 2011
@EmmyK

You said
Just try to watch today's programme via internet and hear diverse instant miracles

I will try and watch it too - lets see what lies he has prepared for today. grin grin grin
Re: Living Faith Church Is 30 by dare2think: 5:19pm On May 04, 2011
@Emmyk

Thanks, cool that you replied. From the manner of your response I take that you are an objective individual. Before I start, I want to implore you to please, do  not take my critique in a negative way, as an individual, just like you, I am entitled to my opinion and belief. Bishop Oyedepo, just like Osama,Abacha or Obama, has not offended or taken my "tithe", for me to be furious or upset about him. But does that mean I can't state my feelings about some activities that, in my opinion, does not add up?

Firstly, why does some of his members get very irritable when someone raises a negative connotation/critique about him. God, is the only entity beyond criticism. The congregation seem to have built a personality cult around him, which seems to have sidelined the role of Jesus and God. Pls, I am judging from the response I get/see from his "Followers"

Secondly, I personally, Have nothing against his person, but I have "critical" questions about his activities i.e purchase of an aircraft as an excuse for evangelism in the midst of abject poverty, and his apologist are very quick to defend him. Emmyk, are you aware that power corrupts? are people forgetting that he is just human just like you and I? is he beyond reproach? If he does wrong, are there people within the church that can raise their objections?

Thirdly, according to winnerslfc, God made a revelation to him (Oyedepo), did God also give his mandate to his wife and children? Why, according to reports, does his children head other branch of churches?

The morality of the personality cult built around him really baffles me, as christianity, from what i understand entails humility, spirituality and love for thy neighbour. This shift to concentrated urge for prosperity raises an eyebrow. The contradictory and amazing part of it all, is the fact that I am yet to see/meet/hear an average member richer than Oyedepo himself after years of him preaching prosperity.

Thanks.

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