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You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:11pm On Jul 04, 2021
Hitler killed millions of Jews yet none of his generation is poor or suffering. White people killed blacks and used us as slaves yet till date they are smarter, richer and better than us. They don't go to mountains to fast and pray yet they enjoy better life expectancy.

But a pastor convinced you that you are poor, sick, jobless or suffering bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Abeg remind me what sins your forefathers committed that is greater than slavery

#WHYYOUNORGETSENSE

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Missyajoke(f): 6:36pm On Jul 04, 2021
What kind of preachers do we have on nairaland nowadays, they say things that are false
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:46pm On Jul 04, 2021
Missyajoke:
What kind of preachers do we have on nairaland nowadays, they say things that are false


This is not about nairaland preachers, this is about fake black African pastors that turn the bible upside down for selfish interest. To these false preachers, every thing bad is bc of generational curse. I don't blame them, I blame those that believe their false teachings

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Missyajoke(f): 7:49pm On Jul 04, 2021
iykbethany:

This is not about nairaland preachers, this is about fake black African pastors that turn the bible upside down for selfish interest. To these false preachers, every thing bad is bc of generational curse. I don't blame them, I blame those that believe their false teachings

Are you trying to day there is no generational curse right
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Jul 04, 2021
Missyajoke:

Are you trying to day there is no generational curse right
Even the God who inflicted generational curses on His people, Israel, swore by His Name, back in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 , that there will no longer be such in His land. undecided
Yet, here you are , thousands of years later, stil believing in that which God never placed on your kind and already took away from those whom He did. undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by judedwriter(m): 9:35am On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:
Hitler killed millions of Jews yet none of his generation is poor or suffering. White people killed blacks and used us as slaves yet till date they are smarter, richer and better than us. They don't go to mountains to fast and pray yet they enjoy better life expectancy.

But a pastor convinced you that you are poor, sick, jobless or suffering bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Abeg remind me what sins your forefathers committed that is greater than slavery

#WHYYOUNORGETSENSE

Generational curses are as real as the back of your head.

The only thing is that the curses of the white man are different from the black man from Africa...
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:58am On Jul 05, 2021
And if you are told why the Pinks are not affected by curses now, you will call me a Racist. The truth is that you are the original people of the book and your Bible stories all happened in Africa. This is already clear for those who have eyes to see. That's why the curses affect you

The curses of Deutronomy 28 is still on hold on Africans. They departed from the LAWS YHWH gave them for foreign religions and ways not cast up

When the Messiah was on earth people suffer for the sins of their fathers (John 9:2). Today many are still suffering from such curses. All religion are Apostate today and many can't seek their Creator for themselves and do what is lawful to be free.

We are Africans and our Ancestors did a lot of evil when they fell from the true way. They can offend someone and the person may enter a covenant with the devil to inflict their generation with curses. You see a family where about 4 children are blind or deaf. There are families that no one can get to 40yrs and many more. So if you say people are not suffering from generational curses in Africa, lay one hand on your head and the other on your eyes and tell your Creator to give you sense and also open your eyes to see clearly.

It's only the Messiah that can free all from these curses at his coming. Some people can do it themselves and their are also righteous men who can do it but the Messiah is the only one that can properly do it when He comes.

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 1:37pm On Jul 05, 2021
judedwriter:


Generational curses are as real as the back of your head.

The only thing is that the curses of the white man are different from the black man from Africa...

So you are saying that the white man is superior to you?
Son, kindly emancipate yourself from mental slavery.
Africa is poor because of poor leadership and corrupt politicians. That is why most Nigerians are hungry, poor and jobles bc your politicians don't even have sense or ideas on how to grow the economy, they just loot and bc they know that ignorant people like you will blame their uncles and village people for their poverty and joblessness. Get sense will you?

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 2:07pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:
And if you are told why the Pinks are not affected by curses now, you will call me a Racist. The truth is that you are the original people of the book and your Bible stories all happened in Africa. This is already clear for those who have eyes to see. That's why the curses affect you

The curses of Deutronomy 28 is still on hold on Africans. They departed from the LAWS YHWH gave them for foreign religions and ways not cast up

When the Messiah was on earth people suffer for the sins of their fathers (John 9:2). Today many are still suffering from such curses. All religion are Apostate today and many can't seek their Creator for themselves and do what is lawful to be free.

We are Africans and our Ancestors did a lot of evil when they fell from the true way. They can offend someone and the person may enter a covenant with the devil to inflict their generation with curses. You see a family where about 4 children are blind or deaf. There are families that no one can get to 40yrs and many more. So if you say people are not suffering from generational curses in Africa, lay one hand on your head and the other on your eyes and tell your Creator to give you sense and also open your eyes to see clearly.

It's only the Messiah that can free all from these curses at his coming. Some people can do it themselves and their are also righteous men who can do it but the Messiah is the only one that can properly do it when He comes.


Jesus died on the cross of calvary for a purpose so these old lawss no longer apply.

At Job 34:10-12, the Bible says that it is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly.

Also note what James 1:13 says: "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 2:19pm On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:

Jesus died on the cross of calvary for a purpose so these old lawss no longer apply.

At Job 34:10-12, the Bible says that it is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly.

Also note what James 1:13 says: "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
You missed the message in his post to you. undecided

It's only the Messiah that can free all from these curses at his coming. Some people can do it themselves and their are also righteous men who can do it but the Messiah is the only one that can properly do it when He comes.
Basically, he purports that Africans are the original Israelites and that the Messiah, not Jesus Christ, is yet to arrive to free Africa from the Old Covenant curses God put on them, the "true" people of israel undecided

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by judedwriter(m): 3:10pm On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:


So you are saying that the white man is superior to you?
Son, kindly emancipate yourself from mental slavery.
Africa is poor because of poor leadership and corrupt politicians. That is why most Nigerians are hungry, poor and jobles bc your politicians don't even have sense or ideas on how to grow the economy, they just loot and bc they know that ignorant people like you will blame their uncles and village people for their poverty and joblessness. Get sense will you?

Exactly...

Bad leadership is a typical CURSE of the black man. It's mostly in Africa that you see sit tight leaders who fear leaving office.

It's an african CURSE bro.

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:17pm On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:


Jesus died on the cross of calvary for a purpose so these old lawss no longer apply.

At Job 34:10-12, the Bible says that it is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly.

Also note what James 1:13 says: "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.

You are very funny. The Messiah didn't die on cross, He was lynched, murdered, slewed on a tree (Acts 5:30; 1 Peter 2:24) cos they thought he would establish his Kingdom on earth in that era. This was exactly what they did to many Africans who rise up to save their people like Gaddaffi and others. He didn't die for your sins in that era. The thieves who transliterated the bible are those who assumed it to be so. You still struggle with sin. There are even sins we commit that we don't even have knowledge of, that's why we need to confess our sins everyday cos we don't know where we might have erred. His death saved those in heaven not earth (Rev 12:10). Many of you Christians don't understand how the Bible was written, neither do you understand what was removed or added.

The Messiah never abolished the laws his father gave Moses. Words that came out from the Father's mouth. His words are yea and Amen. It never returned void . The Messiah was the Word and Law that was given to the children of Isreal via Moses. By the time the Messiah came in the flesh , they have corrupted it with many man made doctrines. The Messiah came to fulfil what was written of him. As the Law, he came to simply, abrogate it to what it really was. He came to remove the burdens in the laws given to Moses by his Father. The law was not abolished or done away. You will be judged by law (Matt 7:21-22). The will of his father is His Father's commandments. Sin is the transgression of the law. When you go against the law, you are a sinner!

Our Creator is not wicked. If you go against His commandments, you will be punished or die. The wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23) (what they wrote as death was actually a cut off from Him).

Trials, Tests, Troubles are what your Creator use to test your faith to know if you are capable. He only works with a strong person. If you don't write tests and exams, you can't graduate. James 1:2,12; 1Peter 5:10; Rom 12:12
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:38pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You missed the message in his post to you. undecided

Basically, he purports that Africans are the original Israelites and that the Messiah, not Jesus Christ, is yet to arrive to free Africa from the Old Covenant curses God put on them, the "true" people of israel undecided

Keep deceiving yourself. Lord JC aka Jesus Christus is the impostor they sold to you as the Messiah 2000yrs ago. The Messiah was a Hebrew man not a greek or latin. Jesus is not a Hebrew name. He came in the name of his Father, Jesus don't even have the Father's name in it. The true identity of the Messiah was hidden and Lord JC was used to replace him. Your eyes will open one day and you will see clearly

Those who know what to do to be free, can set themselves free from the curses. That's what I meant. Many are blind, cursed, in bondage, deaf, oppressed etc and can't be free today for many reasons. And these are very glaring that you can see them around you. When the true Messiah comes not your impostor Lord JC, all will be freed provided they are pure in heart.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by tamonokare: 4:07pm On Jul 05, 2021
judedwriter:


Generational curses are as real as the back of your head.

The only thing is that the curses of the white man are different from the black man from Africa...

This one is irredeemably colonised. Oya oga name the different kinds of curses and why theirs doesn't affect them.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 4:19pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:

Keep deceiving yourself. Lord JC aka Jesus Christus is the impostor they sold to you as the Messiah 2000yrs ago. The Messiah was a Hebrew man not a greek or latin. Jesus is not a Hebrew name. He came in the name of his Father, Jesus don't even have the Father's name in it. The true identity of the Messiah was hidden and Lord JC was used to replace him. Your eyes will open one day and you will see clearly

Those who know what to do to be free, can set themselves free from the curses. That's what I meant. Many are blind, cursed, in bondage, deaf, oppressed etc and can't be free today for many reasons. And these are very glaring that you can see them around you. When the true Messiah comes not your impostor Lord JC, all will be freed provided they are pure in heart.
You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:19pm On Jul 05, 2021
To the slowpoke that said white men sins abi curses is different from African curses abeg let him tell us why the families of OBJ and all the Nigerian soldiers that killed millions of armless Biafrans are not suffering?

Your politicians that have been killing innocent people for juju rituals are all balling till date with their families and you are here telling us how you are poor and ignorant bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Some people are beyond redemption....

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by FantasyHub: 8:19pm On Jul 05, 2021
iykbethany:
Hitler killed millions of Jews yet none of his generation is poor or suffering. White people killed blacks and used us as slaves yet till date they are smarter, richer and better than us. They don't go to mountains to fast and pray yet they enjoy better life expectancy.

But a pastor convinced you that you are poor, sick, jobless or suffering bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Abeg remind me what sins your forefathers committed that is greater than slavery

#WHYYOUNORGETSENSE





If u wanna gile the average African use religion. Such a scam, religion.

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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:21pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided

The New Testament you read are just commentaries. All including many things the Messiah said has their root in the Old testament. This is the reason they always quote the Old i.e "it is written". They all refer to the Torah. Many things in the book of Revelations are also in the Torah. Prophet Ezekiel, Isaiah etc talked about them. No where did they tell you about any Lord JC or mentioned such name. When they killed the Messiah, they also killed his disciples and after many years rewrote the book to their taste to what you follow today. The names, geography, stories were all turned and credited to others. This is a mystery you and your Christians can never understand now.

I don't have strength to argue. Many things you read in the NT are not what was truly written there. A lot were removed and added. They replaced the name of the true Messiah to Lord JC and the Creator as God. If you are the author of a book, you would not change your name for anything even if the book was translated to all languages in the world. Your enemies are the ones who brought the book to you and they knew what they did there but you Christians are still blind when their lies are very glaring.

That is all I can tell you. Continue with your Lord JC. The bible is true but a lot were turned to deceive you all. The Messiah will come first to correct these lies. Many of you will see but will not understand as Prophet Isaiah said. Many of you will see him but will not know why you keep waiting for Lord JC

Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 8:25pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:


The New Testament you read are just commentaries. All including many things the Messiah said has their root in the Old testament. This is the reason they always quote the Old i.e "it is written". They all refer to the Torah. Many things in the book of Revelations are also in the Torah. Prophet Ezekiel, Isaiah etc talked about them. No where did they tell you about any Lord JC or mentioned such name. When they killed the Messiah, they also killed his disciples and after many years rewrote the book to their taste to what you follow today. The names, geography, stories were all turned and credited to others. This is a mystery you and your Christians can never understand now.

I don't have strength to argue. Many things you read in the NT are not what was truly written there. A lot were removed and added. They replaced the name of the true Messiah to Lord JC and the Creator as God. If you are the author of a book, you would not change your name for anything even if the book was translated to all languages in the world. Your enemies are the ones who brought the book to you and they knew what they did there but you Christians are still blind when their lies are very glaring.

That is all I can tell you. Continue with your Lord JC. The bible is true but a lot were turned to deceive you all. The Messiah will come first to correct these lies. Many of you will see but will not understand as Prophet Isaiah said. Many of you will see him but will not know why you keep waiting for Lord JC

Again....You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

The very same Messiah that John spoke of seeing is his dreams is the one he wrote of in his gospels. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:31pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again....You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to.
You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. undecided

The very same Messiah that John spoke of seeing is his dreams is the one he wrote of in his gospels. undecided

4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? undecided

Are you sure I am the one deceived here? undecided
Let it be how you understand it. No time for stories.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:

Let it be how you understand it. No time for stories.
Really? undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by oaroloye(m): 9:24pm On Jul 05, 2021
MISHIGAS!

iykbethany:


Hitler killed millions of Jews


ADOLF HITLER DID NOT KILL MILLIONS OF JEWS- THE HOLOCAUST IS A PROPAGANDA LIE.

iykbethany:


yet none of his generation is poor or suffering.


YOU ARE A LIAR: BY 2018, 678,000 GERMANS WERE HOMELESS, WHILE 41,000 OF THEM LIVED ON THE STREETS.

iykbethany:


White people killed blacks and used us as slaves yet till date they are smarter, richer and better than us.


ANOTHER STUPID LIE: MANY OYINBOS LIVE HAND-TO-MOUTH, WHILE FEW ARE RICH.

They are not smarter than any other race- as their own Schools prove. Their highest achievement is to find better ways to kill themselves.

Their beautiful toys and clever gadgets are made by processes that poison their own environment.

Fluoride in Toothpastes is a TOXIC WASTE PRODUCT of their GLASS industry. That is how they dispose of it.

iykbethany:


They don't go to mountains to fast and pray yet they enjoy better life expectancy.


OYINBOS TRAVEL HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD, TO FIND A MOUNTAIN TO PRAY ON.

iykbethany:


But a pastor convinced you that you are poor, sick, jobless or suffering bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Abeg remind me what sins your forefathers committed that is greater than slavery

#WHYYOUNORGETSENSE

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

TO REPENT OF OUR OWN SINS IS NOT SUFFICIENT: GOD HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ANCESTORS' INIQUITIES, TOO.

. DEUTERONOMY 28:45-61.

45. Moreover all these Curses
shall come upon thee,
and shall pursue thee,
and overtake thee,
till thou be destroyed;
because thou hearkenedst not
unto The Voice of The LORD thy God,
to keep His Commandments
and His Statutes
Which He Commanded thee:
46. And they shall be upon thee
for a sign and for a wonder,
and upon thy seed for ever.
49. The LORD shall bring
a nation against thee from far,
from the end of the Earth,
as swift as the eagle flieth;
a nation whose tongue
thou shalt not understand;
50. A nation of
fierce countenance,
which shall not regard
the person of the old,
nor shew favour to the young:
51. And he shall eat
the fruit of thy cattle,
and the fruit of thy land,
until thou be destroyed:
which also shall not
leave thee either corn,
wine, or oil,
or the increase of thy kine,
or flocks of thy sheep,
until he have destroyed thee.
52. And he shall besiege thee
in all thy gates,
until thy high and fenced walls
come down,
wherein thou trustedst,
throughout all thy land:
and he shall besiege thee
in all thy gates
throughout all thy land,
which The LORD thy God
hath given thee.
53. And thou shalt eat
the fruit of thine own body,
the flesh of thy sons
and of thy daughters,
which The LORD thy God
hath given thee, in the siege,
and in the straitness,
wherewith thine enemies
shall distress thee:
54. So that the man
that is tender among you,
and very delicate,
his eye shall be evil
toward his brother,
and toward the wife of his bosom,
and toward the remnant
of his children
which he shall leave:
55. So that he will not
give to any of them
of the flesh of his children
whom he shall eat:
because he hath nothing
left him in the siege,
and in the straitness,
wherewith thine enemies
shall distress thee in all thy gates.
56. The tender and delicate
woman among you,
which would not adventure
to set the sole of her foot
upon the ground
for delicateness and tenderness,
her eye shall be evil
toward the husband of her bosom,
and toward her son,
and toward her daughter,
57. And toward her young one
that cometh out from
between her feet,
and toward her children
which she shall bear:
for she shall eat them
for want of all things
secretly in the siege
and straitness,
wherewith thine enemy
shall distress thee
in thy gates.

58. If thou wilt not
observe to do all
The Words of This Law
that are written in This Book,
that thou mayest fear
This Glorious and Fearful Name,

"THE LORD THY GOD;"

59. Then The LORD
will make thy Plagues Wonderful,
and the Plagues of thy Seed,
even Great Plagues,
and of long continuance,
and sore Sicknesses,
and of long continuance.
60. Moreover He will bring upon thee
all the Diseases of Egypt,
which thou wast afraid of;
and they shall cleave unto thee.
61. Also every Sickness,
and every Plague,
which is not written in
The Book of This Law,
Them will The LORD
bring upon thee,
until thou be destroyed.

ENSLAVEMENT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF PARENTAL/ANCESTRAL DELIBERATE SIN.

The SlaveMaster Nations have the privilege of being able to enjoy the fruits of their Ancestral Wickedness, now, in this Time.

They earned that Right by applying Biblical Principles the Slaves did not.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are
The Commandments,
The Statutes,
and The Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them
in the land whither ye go
to possess It:
2. That thou mightest
fear The LORD thy God,
to keep all His Statutes
and His Commandments,
Which I Command thee,
thou, and thy son,
and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days
may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore,
O Israel,
and observe to do (It);
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may
increase mightily,
as the LORD God of thy fathers
hath promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee
this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

THE SLAVEMASTERS MADE THEMSELVES STRONGER THAN THOSE WHOM THEY ENSLAVED.


. DEUTERONOMY 28:1-20.

AND it shall come to pass,
if thou shalt hearken diligently
unto The Voice of The LORD thy God,
to observe and to do
all His Commandments
Which I Command thee this day,
that the LORD thy God
will set thee on high
above all nations of the Earth.
2. And all these Blessings
shall come on thee,
and overtake thee,
if thou shalt hearken unto
The Voice of The LORD thy God.

3. Blessed shalt thou be in the city,
and blessed shalt thou be in the field.
4. Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body,
and the fruit of thy ground,
and the fruit of thy cattle,
the increase of thy kine,
and the flocks of thy sheep.
5. Blessed shall be thy basket
and thy store.
6. Blessed shalt thou be
when thou comest in,
and blessed shalt thou be
when thou goest out.
7. The LORD shall
cause thine Enemies
that rise up against thee
to be smitten before thy face:
they shall come out
against thee one way,
and flee before thee seven ways.
8. The LORD shall
Command the Blessing
upon thee in thy storehouses,
and in all that thou settest
thine hand unto;
and He shall Bless the
in the land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
9. The LORD shall establish thee
an Holy people unto Himself,
as he hath sworn unto thee,
if thou shalt keep
The Commandments of
The LORD thy God,
and walk in His Ways.
10. And all people of the Earth
shall see that thou art
called by The Name of the LORD;
and they shall be afraid of thee.
11. And The LORD shall make thee
plenteous in goods,
in the fruit of thy body,
and in the fruit of thy cattle,
and in the fruit of thy ground,
in the land which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers to give thee.
12. The LORD shall open unto thee
His Good Treasure,
the Heaven to give the rain
unto thy land in his season,
and to Bless all the Work of thine hand:
and thou shalt lend unto many nations,
and thou shalt not borrow.
13. And The LORD shall
make thee the head,
and not the tail;
and thou shalt be above only,
and thou shalt not be beneath;
if that thou hearken unto
The Commandments
of The LORD thy God,
Which I Command thee this day,
to observe and to do them:
14. And thou shalt not go aside
from any of the Words
Which I Command thee this Day,
to the right hand,
or to the left,
to go after other gods
to serve them.

15. But it shall come to pass,
if thou wilt not hearken unto
The Voice of The LORD thy God,
to observe to do
all His Commandments
and His Statutes
Which I Command thee this Day;
That all these Curses
shall come upon thee,
and overtake thee:

16. Cursed shalt thou be in the city,
and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
17. Cursed shall be thy basket
and thy store.
18. Cursed shall be
the fruit of thy body,
and the fruit of thy land,
the increase of thy kine,
and the flocks of thy sheep.
19. Cursed shalt thou be
when thou comest in,
and cursed shalt thou be
when thou goest out.

20. The LORD shall
send upon thee
cursing, vexation, and rebuke,
in all that thou settest
thine hand unto
for to do,
until thou be destroyed,
and until thou perish quickly;
because of the wickedness
of thy doings,
whereby thou hast forsaken Me.

THE SLAVES COULD HAVE USED THEIR FULLEST FACULTIES OF SPIRIT, SOUL, AND BODY TO ESCAPE BEING ENSLAVED, AND TO ESCAPE SLAVERY.

Why did they not do so?

What stopped them from doing so?

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.


These are achieved by those who love God with all their HEART, all of their SOUL, and all of their MIGHT.

That is the easiest and safest way I know.

Do you know any better?

The Enslaved surely did not.

. MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"


24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against
The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'


37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'


and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THOSE WHO REJECTED THE GOSPEL, AND BLASPHEMED GOD DESERVED TO BE ENSLAVED UNLAWFULLY!

Their descendants also deserved any Fate that could befall them.

ALL OF THEM LOST THEIR SOULS WHEN THEY DIED!
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:57pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Really? undecided
Yea cos you will not understand.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 11:13pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:

Yea cos you will not understand.
I doubt you even understand what you spew at all. undecided

You hack against the Messiah but you believe in the same Messiah. You quoted from Peter's letter to Jewish Christians in exile, where He spoke clearly of Jesus Christ as his Messiah. The Book of Acts is filled with stories of the very same Messiah. [b]The Book of Revelation[/b]s, another book you quoted - which by the way contains only about 20% of that expressed in the book of Ezekiel- mentioned the Messiah enough times for anyone reading to realize the Messiah was indeed a major feature in that dream. undecided
Yet here you are trying to tell me that even though the verses you referenced point clearly to Jesus Christ, that the Messiah is someone else? undecided

Reading you post reminds of how I felt reading through the "Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas" some weeks ago. I mean desperation written in every attempt to claim Jesus Christ is only the Messiah while still pointing at Jesus Christ as the Messiah. undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:52pm On Jul 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I doubt you even understand what you spew at all. undecided

You hack against the Messiah but you believe in the same Messiah. You quoted from Peter's letter to Jewish Christians in exile, where He spoke clearly of Jesus Christ as his Messiah. The Book of Acts is filled with stories of the very same Messiah. [b]The Book of Revelation[/b]s, another book you quoted - which by the way contains only about 20% of that expressed in the book of Ezekiel- mentioned the Messiah enough times for anyone reading to realize the Messiah was indeed a major feature in that dream. undecided
Yet here you are trying to tell me that even though the verses you referenced point clearly to Jesus Christ, that the Messiah is someone else? undecided

Reading you post reminds of how I felt reading through the "Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas" some weeks ago. I mean desperation written in every attempt to claim Jesus Christ is only the Messiah while still pointing at Jesus Christ as the Messiah. undecided
That's why I said you won't understand. The people who transliterated your Bible are not the owners of the book. They removed the true names and turned the stories. The names you all call are not the original names of the people. See the second meme I posted earlier. They derived that name from the name of their God Zeus. Some truth I may tell you might hurt and shock you. So focus on what you know.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 11:57pm On Jul 05, 2021
bobestman:

That's why I said you won't understand. The people who transliterated your Bible are not the owners of the book. They removed the true names and turned the stories. The names you all call are not the original names of the people. See the second meme I posted earlier. They derived that name from the name of their God Zeus. Some truth I may tell you might hurt and shock you. So focus on what you know.
"They" did? OK, So you shouldn't have a problem then pointing me to the "unturned" story you have read out of so I can read it for myself then. undecided
Where is the original story to be found? undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 1:30am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
"They" did? OK, So you shouldn't have a problem then pointing me to the "unturned" story you have read out of so I can read it for myself then. undecided
Where is the original story to be found? undecided
At the right time it will show. Daniel 4:12 tells you the time the sealed book will be unsealed. It says Endtime when many will run to and fro (in a time of trouble or unrest). The true and hidden message/Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all who care to hear. This is what the Messiah said in Matthew 24:14 that will be preached as a Witness to ALL before the end (Rev 14:6). This is a kind of gospel different from whatever you all know cos almost all will be deceived by the wicked one even the Elect(Rev 12:9). They will all think they know but don't know they are all decieved. Take it or leave it
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 1:36am On Jul 06, 2021
bobestman:

At the right time it will show. Daniel 4:12 tells you the time the sealed book will be unsealed. It says Endtime when many will run to and fro (in a time of trouble or unrest). The true and hidden message/Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all who care to hear. This is what the Messiah said in Matthew 24:14 that will be preached as a Witness to ALL before the end (Rev 14:6). This is a kind of gospel different from whatever you all know cos almost all will be deceived by the wicked one even the Elect(Rev 12:9). They will all think they know but don't know they are all decieved. Take it or leave it
1. Oh, so you dont have an "unturned" source but you freely quote from that which you claim is turned , about a Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that was never mentioned as being given to men until Jesus Christ showed up to declare it so? undecided

2. Again, you continue to quote from John's book of dreams, yet ignoring that the same John is author of the Gospel according to John where he claims to have known the same Jesus Christ He writes of as Messiah in Revelations. undecided

Whenever your religion puts together it's own book , let me know. Till then, ignore me abeg! undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:38am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. Oh, so you dont have an "unturned" source but you freely quote from that which you claim is turned , about a Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that was never mentioned as being given to men until Jesus Christ showed up to declare it so? undecided

2. Again, you continue to quote from John's book of dreams, yet ignoring that the same John is author of the Gospel according to John where he claims to have known the same Jesus Christ He writes of as Messiah in Revelations. undecided

Whenever your religion puts together it's own book , let me know. Till then, ignore me abeg! undecided

Another Bomb!
You African are far older than those who brought you the book
The original scriptures was written in your African languages not in English
Your African languages is far older than other languages e.g Swahili is the most old and popular language in the world according to histories

How come your stories were written in Greek, Paleo Hebrew and English?
They replaced the Son of your Creator to the son of their Greek god Zeus. Whether you believe it or not, there a true Creator and their is an Impostor God ruling the world today. There is a true son of Man and an Impostor son of man who All almost call on earth today

The original scriptures is our book not your Christian books. They transliterated from our stories and it is only us the Ancient people that can tell you the truth (Isaiah 44:7). You people were told the Ancient people/first people/original people will teach you all things not your Christians teachers who fell for the half stories.

It's our book and only the chosen among us will teach all the hidden truth. So don't tell me I am quoting from your Christian book. It is our book and though the stories be turned, we will still use it to open your eyes to the truth until the Son of Man comes to correct the lies and fulfil the book.

Truth always hurt. I can see you are truly hurt so I will avoid you.
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 10:48am On Jul 06, 2021
bobestman:

Another Bomb!
You African are far older than those who brought you the book
The original scriptures was written in your African languages not in English
Your African languages is far older than other languages e.g Swahili is the most old and popular language in the world according to histories

How come your stories were written in Greek, Paleo Hebrew and English?
They replaced the Son of your Creator to the son of their Greek god Zeus. Whether you believe it or not, there a true Creator and their is an Impostor God ruling the world today. There is a true son of Man and an Impostor son of man who All almost call on earth today

The original scriptures is our book not your Christian books. They transliterated from our stories and it is only us the Ancient people that can tell you the truth (Isaiah 44:7). You people were told the Ancient people/first people/original people will teach you all things not your Christians teachers who fell for the half stories.

It's our book and only the chosen among us will teach all the hidden truth. So don't tell me I am quoting from your Christian book. It is our book and though the stories be turned, we will still use it to open your eyes to the truth
This is all meaningless to me. I am asking you for tangible evidence of this belief of yours. undecided

You claim you believe the stories in the book have been "turned" yet you continue to quote from the very same "turned" book to support you many doctrines and traditions of men. At the same time you speak of worldly concepts as if endorsed by Almighty God Himself. All I see is someone desperate to holding on to the world and its ways at all cost. undecided

So until you find your book, ignore me. undecided
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:41am On Jul 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
This is all meaningless to me. I am asking you for tangible evidence of this belief of yours. undecided

You claim you believe the stories in the book have been "turned" yet you continue to quote from the very same "turned" book to support you many doctrines and traditions of men. At the same time you speak of worldly concepts as if endorsed by Almighty God Himself. All I see is someone desperate to holding on to the world and its ways at all cost. undecided

So until you find your book, ignore me. undecided
It's our book and those who know will continue to use it to correct you till the true Messiah comes to restore all things. He will correct it. Before He judges all. That's why the true gospel need to go out as a witness to all before judgement.

Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 12:47pm On Jul 06, 2021
bobestman:

It's our book and those who know will continue to use it to correct you till the true Messiah comes to restore all things. He will correct it. Before He judges all. That's why the true gospel need to go out as a witness to all before judgement.
Again, till you are able to find and share your book, ignore me since I am not interested in tangling with your imagination or anyone else's where God and the things of God is concerned. When you are able to provide more concrete evidence of your ideas, let me know then. All I see right now in you is another doctrine-pusher , no different from the many out there all trying to promote their Kingdom in the name of God . undecided

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