LegalWolf:


Loooooool, when we keep on pointing instances where we did things selflessly, I’m certain you’ll resort to the useless statement up there. I asked you a simple question and you did not answer. You didn’t even state how NDDC benefitted us indirectly. Sigh!

Your hatred for us won’t get you anywhere in life sha.

Coldie:

I don't hate u guys I have no reason to. But am giving reasons I think why southern senators couldn't stop northern senators

Coldie:
What do u want southern senators to do in a house where the north is in majority?

Have u ever asked how alot of skewed injustice happened in Nigeria.

Northerner's just gang up and start voting for any rubbish as long as it favours them, and the southern senators can't do anything.

LegalWolf:


This is comforting to know. But let me tell you something: our political elites are the same irrespective of tribe. No law can be passed without the concurrence of both senate and house of rep. Let’s even assume that Lawan used fraud to pass it in the senate, what was gbaja doing? They must all agree for these things to be done. That means buy southern and northern elements we have had leaders are culpable. The North can’t single handedly do this thing. This is the whole crux of my argument

ReubenE:


You're right, but what I don't quite understand is if you are trying to develop a reason why the senators are useless in this case.

Lawan can shot down a motion, or overrule a Senator or procedure. But what I can tell you that Lawan cannot and does not have the powers to pass a bill all by himself. You cannot pass a bill without 2/3 majority, which is 73 Senators. The North simply does not have that number.

If Southern Senators don't vote with their conscience because they belong to the APC, then they are only useful to the APC but useless to the people they are representing. Exactly the point I'm trying to raise here.

It is an anathema for Senators to be useless to the people they represent. A political party is below the people in a democratic order.

They are useless to the people because it is rigging that gave them those seats, not whether Lawan is muscling them.
If the people are really the givers of political power which Democracy prescribed, they can't afford to respect Lawan and APC more than the PEOPLE they represent.

They are morons, and nothing less

Workch:
I don’t understand why we have senators in the house this bill still got to a significant stage of being passed.

Them use juju pass am? The problem is not the north right now, the problem is the lackadaisical southern senators with selfish interest that won’t represent the will of their people.

tizzle:
I think the north has more numbers in the NASS than the south. Secondly most of the southern law makers are just in there for the sitting allowance, they don't really care about the interest of the people they represent but their personal interest. Some are afraid of speaking up against this kind of nonsense.

aribisala0:


You do not need 2/3 majority to pass a bill that is wrong.

To pass a bill you need a simple majority and the bill is sent to the president for assent after which it becomes law.
The 2/3 matter comes into it if the president refuses to assent to the bill.
Then the National assembly can pass it into law without presidential assent with 2/3 majority.

KaluwisxPRO:


Senators would have been free to follow their mind and do the will of the people, until this Government started selectively prosecuting only PDP looters. It was either you Join them, or you’re thrown to the wolfs.

This Government singlehanded brought up a sham of a case to remove the justice of the Supreme Court.

Except you are trying to be sentimental, you will agree that this selective prosecution of PDP looters when this admin came into power was the reason a lot of PDP thieves decamped to the APC. Making this Government the worst of its kind to be in romance with not just terrorists, but thieves both past and present.

ReubenE:


My friend, I don't mean to be rude, but you need to go and study elementary government.

Like you just said 2/3 majority is not needed to pass a bill in the legislature( Senate cum H/Reps). Please do not say something like this again if you are not really aware.

The only time Simple Majority is adopted in the Legislature when debating a bill is during Second Reading, after which it is sent to the relevant House or Senate Committee for further legislative input.

Let me reiterate again for the purpose of emphasis.
The Senate or House of Reps cannot pass a bill without 2/3 Majority.
In fact, both Houses needs Legislative Concurrence before a bill can be sent to the president for assent.

ReubenE:


My friend, I don't mean to be rude, but you need to go and study elementary government.

Like you just said 2/3 majority is not needed to pass a bill in the legislature( Senate cum H/Reps). Please do not say something like this again if you are not really aware.

The only time Simple Majority is adopted in the Legislature when debating a bill is during Second Reading, after which it is sent to the relevant House or Senate Committee for further legislative input.

Let me reiterate again for the purpose of emphasis.
The Senate or House of Reps cannot pass a bill without 2/3 Majority.
In fact, both Houses needs Legislative Concurrence before a bill can be sent to the president for assent.

Workch:
I don’t understand why we have senators in the house this bill still got to a significant stage of being passed.

Them use juju pass am? The problem is not the north right now, the problem is the lackadaisical southern senators with selfish interest that won’t represent the will of their people.

ReubenE:


My friend, I don't mean to be rude, but you need to go and study elementary government.

Like you just said 2/3 majority is not needed to pass a bill in the legislature( Senate cum H/Reps). Please do not say something like this again if you are not really aware.

The only time Simple Majority is adopted in the Legislature when debating a bill is during Second Reading, after which it is sent to the relevant House or Senate Committee for further legislative input.

Let me reiterate again for the purpose of emphasis.
The Senate or House of Reps cannot pass a bill without 2/3 Majority.
In fact, both Houses needs Legislative Concurrence before a bill can be sent to the president for assent.

aribisala0:


But you are rude and ignorant and proud of the rubbish you are saying
It is only a constitutional change that requires a 2/3 majority not legislation
The procedure is after the 3rd reading it is passed by a SIMPLE majority and forwarded for presidential assent .
If assent is withheld it can be passed if there is a 2/3 majority WITHOUT presidential assent

ReubenE:

It is very unfortunate that when Nigerians realize a gap in their ability to reason, they resort to throwing tantrums.

I don't want to join issues with you. It is very obvious you've substituted civility for discourteousness

ReubenE:


I swear, I had to laugh while reading this comment.

Thank God we have a baseline agreement that they are thieves, the reason they are not free to do their job.

@bold, Senators not free to express their mind like you opined is a big shame in our democratic experience.
What about the APC reps/senators from the South if the president is only robbing aboniki balm on PDP legislators. What is the reason for their docility?

Workch:
I don’t understand why we have senators in the house this bill still got to a significant stage of being passed.

Them use juju pass am? The problem is not the north right now, the problem is the lackadaisical southern senators with selfish interest that won’t represent the will of their people.

Workch:
I don’t understand why we have senators in the house this bill still got to a significant stage of being passed.

Them use juju pass am? The problem is not the north right now, the problem is the lackadaisical southern senators with selfish interest that won’t represent the will of their people.