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Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:25pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Sabbath laws is a law that is not stable because the answer is yes and no

Now you can go to temple on sabbath day but also break it when you go to your farm after the temple obeying

But when it comes to the complete law you can't do all of them without God help
Are you serious... Sabbath laws was not stable? That should be a new thread for discussion. I would love to learn.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by HardMirror(m): 9:27pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


See how you show you knew nothing at beginning when you thought you were a Christ Follower such that you ask this foolish question?

It is exactly as you knew since you were a child that if you did any wicked thing to another, you are automatically qualified for a wickedness to be done to you.
lol. you that knows, can you tell me how you got to know God's commands? at least if i dont even learn, someone else would learn from your sensible post and not be mislead by me. so please go ahead and tell us what god ever wrote
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:30pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Sabbath laws is a law that is not stable because the answer is yes and no

Now you can go to temple on sabbath day but also break it when you go to your farm after the temple obeying

But when it comes to the complete law you can't do all of them without God help
Meaning there were and are some laws of God that are not stable, is that right?
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:32pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

Interesting... I never knew there was Holy Spirit in the Old Testament with the children of Israel....
Please show me the phrase Holy Spirit in the portions of the Bible you posted as evidence of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament?

The Names of the Holy Spirit below
Holy Spirit
Spirit of God
Spirit of Yahweh
Spirit of Grace
Spirit of Knowledge
Spirit of Truth
Spirit of Understanding
Spirit of Wisdom
Spirit of Life
Spirit of the Living God
Spirit of Prophecy
Spirit of Revelation
Spirit of the Father
Spirit of the Fear of the Lord
Spirit of the Lord
Spirit of the Son
Spirit
Breath of the Almighty
Helper
Spirit of Counsel
Eternal Spirit
Generous Spirit
God
Good Spirit
Lord
Power of the Highest
Spirit of Might
Spirit of Adoption
Spirit of Burning
Spirit of Judgment / Spirit of Justice
Spirit of Christ
Spirit of Glory

So the Lord said to Moses, “Take Joshua son of Nun, because my Spirit is in him. Put your hand on him,.(Numbers 27:18).

Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you (John 14:17).

The Spirit of the Lord came upon him and he judged Israel (Judges 3:10).

Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: "See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship" (Exodus 31:1-3).

When they came to there to the hill, there was a group of prophets to meet him; then the Spirit of God came upon him, and he prophesied among them (1 Samuel 10:10).

But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, a distressing Spirit from the Lord troubled him (1 Samuel 16:14).
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:35pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

Meaning there were and are some laws of God that are not stable, is that right?

It means people fear laws of God that is equal to government laws they fear it because they don't want to hurt themselves

Not because they love that law

Example thou shall not kill is law of God and government

Now some want kill people in their heart they already killed that person

But what holding them is the result of the work which they are afraid of not because they fear God

That why God said the heart is evil on it own only God can change the heart
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:41pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


It means people fear laws of God that is equal to government laws they fear it because they don't want to hurt themselves

Not because they love that law

Example thou shall not kill is law of God and government

Now some want kill people in their heart they already killed that person

But what holding them is the result of the work which they are afraid of not because they fear God

That why God said the heart is evil on it own only God can change the heart
You just say things that you don't understand..... Do you realise that by saying that God's law is not stable, it means God can compromise? God is not faithful?
Do you really understand something not to be stable means?
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:42pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

You just say things that you don't understand..... Do you realise that by saying that God's law is not stable, it means God can compromise? God is not faithful?
Do you really understand something not to be stable means?
I did not say God law is not stable I said man heart is evil

The laws of God is stable but man is not stable to do it without God help
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:43pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:

you keep going back to the wrong teaching you can not avoid sin you can not avoid evil
Because evil is already in every man's heart

So what you say don't make sense.

You choose not to avoid it but I have been doing it since I learnt it and I indeed living the promises of God wherein He said "if ye would Obey My Voice Indeed and Keep My Commandments and Statutes and Judgements, ye shall be Blessed in All of his way"

And indeed I am blessed in all of my ways, in my going out and in my coming in and in my lying down, exactly as promised.

So as I said earlier, you shall lie in the bed you have laid, i am lying on mine and it very very good for me.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:46pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


The Names of the Holy Spirit below
Holy Spirit
Spirit of God
Spirit of Yahweh
Spirit of Grace
Spirit of Knowledge
Spirit of Truth
Spirit of Understanding
Spirit of Wisdom
Spirit of Life
Spirit of the Living God
Spirit of Prophecy
Spirit of Revelation
Spirit of the Father
Spirit of the Fear of the Lord
Spirit of the Lord
Spirit of the Son
Spirit
Breath of the Almighty
Helper
Spirit of Counsel
Eternal Spirit
Generous Spirit
God
Good Spirit
Lord
Power of the Highest
Spirit of Might
Spirit of Adoption
Spirit of Burning
Spirit of Judgment / Spirit of Justice
Spirit of Christ
Spirit of Glory

So the Lord said to Moses, “Take Joshua son of Nun, because my Spirit is in him. Put your hand on him,.(Numbers 27:18).

Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you (John 14:17).

The Spirit of the Lord came upon him and he judged Israel (Judges 3:10).

Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying: "See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah. And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship" (Exodus 31:1-3).

When they came to there to the hill, there was a group of prophets to meet him; then the Spirit of God came upon him, and he prophesied among them (1 Samuel 10:10).

But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, a distressing Spirit from the Lord troubled him (1 Samuel 16:14).

My friend don't be neive..... My question is based on your comments on the Holy Spirit... Show me where the phrase Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament.
Don't tell me His Descriptions.... All those descriptions are in the New Testament.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:47pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


You choose not to avoid it but I have been doing it since I learnt it and I indeed living the promises of God wherein He said "if ye would Obey My Voice Indeed and Keep My Commandments and Statutes and Judgements, ye shall be Blessed in All of his way"

And indeed I am blessed in all of my ways, in my going out and in my coming in and in my lying down, exactly as promised.

So as I said earlier, you shall lie in the bed you have laid, i am lying on mine and it very very good for me.

You can lie to yourself
But the scriptures can not be broken
God said the heart of all men is evil continually

And he provides a solution
So lie to yourself that your heart do not carry hate, tribalism, anger, lust, etc

Continue to lie at the end of the day you will cry to God to help you

As all men must do


List of sins in heart

Needing to Always to claim holiness
Finding Fault with Others
Withholding Good from Others
Seeing Others As Competition
Practicing Partiality
Boasting in Yourself
Indulging in Questionable Activities
Seeing Others As Competition

There are over one billion sins the heart can commit
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:53pm On Aug 05, 2021
List of sins in heart

Needing to Always to claim holiness
Finding Fault with Others
Withholding Good from Others
Seeing Others As Competition
Practicing Partiality
Boasting in Yourself
Indulging in Questionable Activities
Seeing Others As Competition
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:54pm On Aug 05, 2021
HardMirror:
lol. you that knows, can you tell me how you got to know God's commands? at least if i dont even learn, someone else would learn from your sensible post and not be mislead by me. so please go ahead and tell us what god ever wrote

I have answered you already up where I said right from your childhood, you have seen that when you did evil and wickedness to a person, you got wickedness in return.

So also, when you did the good, you also got the good.

Also, you also saw that when you did not do any wrong or wicked thing, NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

No man could ever had set these laws for these Laws are experienced all over the world exactly as The Bible had declared.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:58pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


I have answered you already up where I said right from your childhood, you have seen that when you did evil and wickedness to a person, you got wickedness in return.

So also, when you did the good, you also got the good.

Also, you also saw that when you did not do any wrong or wicked thing, NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

No man could ever had set these laws for these Laws are experienced all over the world exactly as The Bible had declared.

NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

So what sin did job do that
Wickedness came to him
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:01pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
I did not say God law is not stable I said man heart is evil

The laws of God is stable but man is not stable to do it without God help

Oh Yeah You Said it
Bishopkingsley:


Sabbath laws is a law that is not stable because the answer is yes and no

Now you can go to temple on sabbath day but also break it when you go to your farm after the temple obeying

But when it comes to the complete law you can't do all of them without God help
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:04pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

My friend don't be neive..... My question is based on your comments on the Holy Spirit... Show me where the phrase Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament.
Don't tell me His Descriptions.... All those descriptions are in the New Testament.

Do you actually believe in Jesus
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by HardMirror(m): 10:05pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


I have answered you already up where I said right from your childhood, you have seen that when you did evil and wickedness to a person, you got wickedness in return.

So also, when you did the good, you also got the good.

Also, you also saw that when you did not do any wrong or wicked thing, NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

No man could ever had set these laws for these Laws are experienced all over the world exactly as The Bible had declared.
still does not prove god. people do evil and get away with it, people do good and get nothing or evil in return. people suffer consequences for their actions when the actions lead to events connected to their future. how does this prove god? and which god cos karma is even from hinduism
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:06pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:


Oh Yeah You Said it
am sorry what I meant is doing sabbath laws is not stable to fulfill it because you can go to church in the morning and at evening break the sabbath when going to the farm
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:

NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

Yes and True but if and when you do evil, evil shall, will and must be delivered to you also, exactly as The Law Said!

Bishopkingsley:

So what sin did job do that
Wickedness came to him

We all know that Job was a Special Case in that evil came to him because God used Him to Satan that he (Satan) was a failure over Job! That is all.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:10pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Do you actually believe in Jesus
You see, when I was making reference to Christian Righteousness, you objected and asked me to show you in the Bible. Now show me Holy Spirit in the old testament. Simple!
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:12pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Yes and True but if and when you do evil, evil shall, will and must be delivered to you also, exactly as The Law Said!



We all know that Job was a Special Case in that evil came to him because God used Him to Satan that he (Satan) was a failure over Job! That is all.

You are moving in a circle

So what did Esau do that God hated him before he was born

'Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated,
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:16pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

You see, when I was making reference to Christian Righteousness, you objected and asked me to show you in the Bible. Now show me Holy Spirit in the old testament. Simple!

I show you the name holy spirit bear in the old testament yet you don't want to accept his name in the old testament

The bible even said God will bear a new name and call us a new name when he creates new heaven and new earth

There are three dispensation
Past life
Present life
The life that is to come


Old testament is past life holy spirit bear different names through out the old testament which I gave u
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:19pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
am sorry what I meant is doing sabbath laws is not stable to fulfill it because you can go to church in the morning and at evening break the sabbath when going to the farm
About Sabbath laws..... Is it true that it was unstable in practice? Was there a law guiding it's strict adherence?
Let's read from the old testament laws of Sabbath....
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:21pm On Aug 05, 2021
HardMirror:

still does not prove god.

grin Your inability to furnish any counter, is proof enough. So we al know that you you speak empty here. grin

HardMirror:

people do evil and get away with it, people do good and get nothing or evil in return. people suffer consequences for their actions when the actions lead to events connected to their future. how does this prove god? and which god cos karma is even from hinduism

grin First Hinduism is simply acknowledging The Law of God. grin

Secondly, the mere fact that you do not always see evil being delivered to evil person does not mean that it is not delivered.

For exactly as it happened to you, your neighbour and those you have seen, so also is it delivered to them also.

And in fact if you were looking and close to them, surely you would have seen the delivery thereof!
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:21pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


I show you the name holy spirit bear in the old testament yet you don't want to accept his name in the old testament

The bible even said God will bear a new name and call us a new name when he creates new heaven and new earth

There are three dispensation
Past life
Present life
The life that is to come


Old testament is past life holy spirit bear different names through out the old testament which I gave u
You are wasting your time. Brother show me HOLY SPIRIT in the old testament... If none jut say it and shame the devil so that we move on to something else.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:26pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

About Sabbath laws..... Is it true that it was unstable in practice? Was there a law guiding it's strict adherence?
Let's read from the old testament laws of Sabbath....

Exodus 35
New Century Version
Rules About the Sabbath
Moses gathered all the Israelite community together and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do.
2 You are to work for six days, but the seventh day will be a holy day, a Sabbath of rest to honor the Lord. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death.
3 On the Sabbath day you must not light a fire in any of your houses.
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:26pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

About Sabbath laws..... Is it true that it was unstable in practice? Was there a law guiding it's strict adherence?
Let's read from the old testament laws of Sabbath....

Bible said Jesus is our sabbath he is the lord of sabbath

No one can keep the do's and don't of sabbath or all laws
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:27pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

You are wasting your time. Brother show me HOLY SPIRIT in the old testament... If none jut say it and shame the devil so that we move on to something else.

This shows you don't even believe in Jesus
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:30pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:


Exodus 35
New Century Version
Rules About the Sabbath
Moses gathered all the Israelite community together and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do.
2 You are to work for six days, but the seventh day will be a holy day, a Sabbath of rest to honor the Lord. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death.
3 On the Sabbath day you must not light a fire in any of your houses.

On the Sabbath day you must not light a fire in any of your houses.

If some one is sick at night on Sabbath day they may die since no one should use light to see and cure him lol
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:33pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


This shows you don't even believe in Jesus
Let me ask you a similar question....
Is there a word "God" in the Book of Ruth?

If there is no "Holy Spirit" as a term in the Old Testament, are you not supposed to ask a question as to why? Instead of trying to play smart?
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:36pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


On the Sabbath day you must not light a fire in any of your houses.

If some one is sick at night on Sabbath day they may die since no one should use light to see and cure him lol
That your statement is to question the intelligence and law of God. Do you know that? That's blasphemy... Are you aware that you cannot question God?
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:42pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:

Let me ask you a similar question....
Is there a word "God" in the Book of Ruth?

If there is no "Holy Spirit" as a term in the Old Testament, are you not supposed to ask a question as to why? Instead of trying to play smart?

Holy spirit means something so the meaning is spirit of God which is in the old testament


Trying to play smart won't help you with God

God is determined to make the wise man on earth to look foolish in his sight
Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:43pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


You are moving in a circle


'Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated,

I am not moving in any circle, it is you who is looking for a place to stand by changing posts again and again because I elected to respond to you despite your change of posts.

Well, this is my last response on this issue.

Bishopkingsley:

So what did Esau do that God hated him before he was born

For you to ask this clearly proves how you do not pay very close attention to what you read in the Bible, therefore you missed the part where Esau was exactly like Lamech in Genesis 4, son if evil and disobedience, who had 2 wives in Breach of The Law of God on Marriage which is "He made them male and female" and not male and females.

Secondly, when he saw that the daughters of Canaan pleased not his father Isaac, According to the Commandment of Abraham that none of his children should take a wife from the daughters of Canaan, (which I know that from his walk with God, Abraham knew that God did not like them).

Esau broke that Law and married the daughters of Canaan.

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