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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 11:43am On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:
So Musa is no longer a Muslim like you always claim? Where is the Torah you believe in?
grin grin grin grin grin. Muslims claim ownership of Moses but don't want to claim his torah. So funny.

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 11:44am On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
Show me, from the quran, where allah said muslims are not under the obligation to obey/accept/follow the torah.

You should show me where I am obliged to follow it in the Qur'an!

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 11:45am On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:
Torah is lost!
Who told you this; provide your islamic source for this claim.

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 11:50am On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:
Don't mind him, he was doing Taqiyya. It's quite a while True2god. How have you been
I have been very busy. I occasionally post here; I spent some of my time offline to bring Muslims to the true God, and Yahweh Akbar!, the results are awesome.

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:52am On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:


Muhammad was only re emphasizing what is in the Qur'an that you should not be friends with Christians and Jews, the same people he calls people of the book.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَتَّخِذُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصٰرٰىٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ  ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ  ۚ وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِّنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُۥ مِنْهُمْ  ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى الْقَوْمَ الظّٰلِمِينَ
"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 51)


Yes, same thing you are doing here now. You can't do it to other Christians can you?

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:53am On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:
When the Jewish Rabbis started changing it.
Are you wiser than Allah who says that no one can alter his words? Can u see that you are confused now?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقًا وَعَدْلًا  ۚ لَّا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِۦ  ۚ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. [b]None can alter His words,[/b]and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 115)



Allaah says about the Jews (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will belive in your religion in spite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allaah (the Tawraat), then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?” [al-Baqarah 2:75]
Oh, Allah was busy contradicting himself?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقًا وَعَدْلًا  ۚ لَّا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِۦ  ۚ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words,[/b]and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 115)



Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) not but as a mercy for the Aalameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107]

The verses you quoted are a subset of the one above!
Oh so you're saying that Qur'an was sent to the people of Mecca while Muhammad was sent to the world? Wonderful!

"[b]And thus We have revealed to you an Arabic Qur'an that you may warn the Mother of Cities [Makkah] and those around it
and warn of the Day of Assembly, about which there is no doubt. A party will be in Paradise and a party in the Blaze."
(QS. Ash-Shura 42: Verse 7)



"And this is a Book which We have sent down, blessed and confirming what was before it, that you may warn the Mother of Cities and those around it. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in it, and they are maintaining their prayers."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 92)
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:54am On Aug 13, 2021
Rashduct4luv:


Yes, same thing you are doing here now. You can't do it to other Christians can you?
Why can't I? If a Christian is lying I'll expose him

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:55am On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
I have been very busy. I occasionally post here; I spent some of my time offline to bring Muslims to the true God, and Yahweh Akbar!, the results are awesome.
Well done brother. Yahweh will continue to bless you and use you to rescue them from darkness
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 12:00pm On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:
Well done brother. Yahweh will continue to bless you and use you to rescue them from darkness
Thanks bro! Hope you are doing well.
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 12:00pm On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
Who told you this; provide your islamic source for this claim.

Follow up

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 12:01pm On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
Thanks bro! Hope you are doing well.
Yes I am. Thanks
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 12:01pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:
Follow up
Provide reference. Even Ibn kathir, although he also lies in many cases, will be considered.
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Supib1997(m): 12:22pm On Aug 13, 2021
TheSexLover:
See them Boko Haram sympathizers

Muslim shit

Imagine a world without u guys

Filled up with wickedness


Motherfuckers
Must y you be a jerk, accept Islam as a religion today before it's too late
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 12:24pm On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:

Are you wiser than Allah who says that no one can alter his words? Can u see that you are confused now?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقًا وَعَدْلًا  ۚ لَّا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِۦ  ۚ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words,[/b]and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 115)

Oh, Allah was busy contradicting himself?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ صِدْقًا وَعَدْلًا  ۚ لَّا مُبَدِّلَ لِكَلِمٰتِهِۦ  ۚ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. [b]None can alter His words,[/b]and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 115)

(None can change His Words.) meaning, none can avert Allah's judgment whether in this life or the Hereafter

The context of the verse is unrelated to what your are saying here.

Oh so you're saying that Qur'an was sent to the people of Mecca while Muhammad was sent to the world? Wonderful!

"[b]And thus We have revealed to you an Arabic Qur'an that you may warn the Mother of Cities [Makkah] and those around it
and warn of the Day of Assembly, about which there is no doubt. A party will be in Paradise and a party in the Blaze."
(QS. Ash-Shura 42: Verse 7)

"And this is a Book which We have sent down, blessed and confirming what was before it, that you may warn the Mother of Cities and those around it. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in it, and they are maintaining their prayers."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 92)

Check the meaning of set and subset as i responded before.

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 12:25pm On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
Provide reference. Even Ibn kathir, although he also lies in many cases, will be considered.

And you are the determiner of his lies? Didn't you lie to get here?
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by true2god: 12:41pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:
And you are the determiner of his lies? Didn't you lie to get here?
I have read Ibn Kathir's and Jelalyn’s tasfirs on surah 66 ayah 1-5, and both referenced different hadiths (sahih Bukari and Nissa respectively) to support their arguments. Of course 2 contradictory tafsirs cannot be correct simultaneously.

So both, or one of them, lied.
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 1:18pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


Allah commands the believing Muslims:
O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Ever Well ­Acquainted with what you do. (Qur'an 4:135)

So Islam is not what you think!

And do not generalise what a few are doing to the others!

I have met Christians who are intolerant, who lies, who womanise, etc and i never thought all of them are like that.

And the olonea doing it are never corrected by the "good ones" to stop

Deception.

The fat that your monicker reads, antichristian, is it because the Quran told you to hate Christians or you are among the bad ones disobeying the Quran?

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Rashduct4luv(m): 1:54pm On Aug 13, 2021
advocatejare:

Why can't I? If a Christian is lying I'll expose him

But you lied to be here! sad

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 2:16pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


(None can change His Words.) meaning, none can avert Allah's judgment whether in this life or the Hereafter
None can change his words is self explanatory.

You said Allah revealed the Torah meaning the Torah like the Qur'an is the word of Allah, the same you said people changed the Torah, meaning people changed the word of Allah. You're just confused



The context of the verse is unrelated to what your are saying here.

You've said it that Qur'an was sent to the people of Mecca and it's peninsula and not to the world but Muhammad was sent to the world
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 2:22pm On Aug 13, 2021
Rashduct4luv:


But you lied to be here! sad
Do you mean like Muhammad permitted Muhammad bin Maslama to lie in order to kill K'ab?



Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!......


.....When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by TheSexLover(m): 4:15pm On Aug 13, 2021
Supib1997:

Must y you be a jerk, accept Islam as a religion today before it's too late
U mean I should be kneeling down n shouting Allah bubbaka���

Hell no man

I Ain't ready to bomb people
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 7:11pm On Aug 13, 2021
effort1:


And the olonea doing it are never corrected by the "good ones" to stop

Deception.

The fat that your monicker reads, antichristian, is it because the Quran told you to hate Christians or you are among the bad ones disobeying the Quran?

Does being antichristian mean to hate Christians?

Why are you Christians like these?
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 7:14pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


Does being antichristian mean to hate Christians?

Why are you Christians like these?

Lolz.


I guess you don't even know the meaning of the identity you carry about.

That's a shame.

Go and ask your fellow Muslims and they will tell you the meaning of your absurd monicker

Islamic Bigot

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 7:15pm On Aug 13, 2021
true2god:
I have read Ibn Kathir's and Jelalyn’s tasfirs on surah 66 ayah 1-5, and both referenced different hadiths (sahih Bukari and Nissa respectively) to support their arguments. Of course 2 contradictory tafsirs cannot be correct simultaneously.

So both, or one of them, lied.

So if two Christians interprets a Bible verse in two different ways, that surely means one of the Christian's holy spirit subscription has expired or is fake?

For as you judge you also shall be judged.
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 7:17pm On Aug 13, 2021
effort1:


Lolz.


I guess you don't even know the meaning of the identity you carry about.

That's a shame.

Go and ask your fellow Muslims and they will tell you the meaning of your absurd monicker

Islamic Bigot

Explain what it means?

1. I Know Jesus of the Bible was never a Christian anywhere in the Bible.

So my moniker is great!

Intolerant Christian!
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:01pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:



1. I Know Jesus of the Bible was never a Christian anywhere in the Bible.

This just exposed your senseless ignorance. Imagine the kind of utterance from someone claiming to be educated.

What a shame!

Intolerant Christian!

Didn't your Quran tell you to kill anyone that converts from Islam? Is it because you Muslims are tolerant?

Continue deceiving yourself.
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:09pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


Explain what it means?

1. I Know Jesus of the Bible was never a Christian anywhere in the Bible.

So my moniker is great!

Intolerant Christian!


Antichristian, your religion is intolerant.

Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:12pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


So if two Christians interprets a Bible verse in two different ways, that surely means one of the Christian's holy spirit subscription has expired or is fake?

For as you judge you also shall be judged.


Antichristian, your religion is set up for murder and bloodshed. Muslims are bunch of murderers! Even you can't deny it.

Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:15pm On Aug 13, 2021
AntiChristian:


So if two Christians interprets a Bible verse in two different ways, that surely means one of the Christian's holy spirit subscription has expired or is fake?

For as you judge you also shall be judged.

Why is there division among Muslims? Are you not reading the same Quran?

Why are there Sunni and Shia Muslims?

Only God knows how many other divisions occur among you.

So, you should shut up when we talk about division because your own religion too is not different
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Rashduct4luv(m): 12:05pm On Aug 14, 2021
advocatejare:

Do you mean like Muhammad permitted Muhammad bin Maslama to lie in order to kill K'ab?



Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!......


.....When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369

So you are copying Muhammad or Jesus? Show us where Jesus lied to be somewhere?
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 4:24pm On Aug 14, 2021
Rashduct4luv:


So you are copying Muhammad or Jesus? Show us where Jesus lied to be somewhere?
So you accept that Muhammad was a liar?

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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 7:55am On Aug 15, 2021
effort1:


Why is there division among Muslims? Are you not reading the same Quran?

Why are there Sunni and Shia Muslims?

Only God knows how many other divisions occur among you.

So, you should shut up when we talk about division because your own religion too is not different

Chai! See the question asked and see answer!

Holy spirit can't even comprehend simple sentences.

How's the questions related to your answer?

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