MaxInDHouse:



Guy, you are just funny as in really really funny!

I told you that you should be careful regarding the people you're following.
The NWT purposely indicated with John 1:1 that something is fishy but if you don't have interest you won't know.

There's no reason to render the word God or god but for the reader to know that the original Greek manuscript made a distinction between Jesus and Jehovah the translators of the NWT like other translators rendered it differently using the small letter "g"

The writers called Jesus and others like Moses God (THEOS) but for Jehovah they rendered the title (THEON) meaning the two are not the same person. That's the import!

DappaD:

While that is true, also remember that talk given by Bro Splane in the Saturday’s afternoon session of the convention. I’m confident that you can make wise decisions my brother.

MaxInDHouse:


No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah Isaiah 54:17

Our righteousness that seems so difficult for you people to decipher is from our God Jehovah!

GardenOfGod:

You lost it my puppy

shadeyinka:

What else does one expect when your conscience is already stolen by satan!?

MaxInDHouse:


Stolen by Satan the same way Jesus' conscience was stolen, shey? Matthew 10:25

shadeyinka:

When a light is fake, there is nothing that can redeem it.
Go sleep

MaxInDHouse:


All these are misinformed churchgoers (critics) who thought they have something tangible to say against God's people, not Apostates that's why i'm catching the fun!
I tell you that any honest hearted follower can see how desperate they are to accuse JWs but they have nothing just envy!

MaxInDHouse:


Stolen by Satan the same way Jesus' conscience was stolen, shey? Matthew 10:25

DappaD:
LOL! My brothers still doing this silly thing of defending the organization when there’s no need to. Jehovah’s pure worship has been elevated above every other form of false worship for many decades, that’s why you see these mudslingers who have no identity on the ground trying to hurl stones.

Well as for me I’m 1000000% sure that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses are the representatives of the anointed remnant of the woman’s seed who was described at Revelation 12:17. The dragon(Satan) is the mastermind behind the intense attack, these humans are mere puppets in the hands of the Devil, that’s why they can’t pinpoint a single crime that was committed by GB.

Best we can do for them is pray Jehovah doesn’t them accountable for their error(Luke 23:34), because when their eyes will actually clear is when they realise they got it all wrong as they face this dilemma during the great tribulation: “Hide us from the face of the One(Jehovah) seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb(Jesus), because the great day of their wrath has come, and WHO IS ABLE TO STAND?”—Revelation 6:16,17; Luke 21:26

DappaD:


While that is true, also remember that talk given by Bro Splane in the Saturday’s afternoon session of the convention. I’m confident that you can make wise decisions my brother.

MaxInDHouse:


All these are misinformed churchgoers (critics) who thought they have something tangible to say against God's people, not Apostates that's why i'm catching the fun!
I tell you that any honest hearted follower can see how desperate they are to accuse JWs but they have nothing just envy!

MaxInDHouse:



Guy, you are just funny as in really really funny!

I told you that you should be careful regarding the people you're following.
The NWT purposely indicated with John 1:1 that something is fishy but if you don't have interest you won't know.

There's no reason to render the word God or god but for the reader to know that the original Greek manuscript made a distinction between Jesus and Jehovah the translators of the NWT like other translators rendered it differently using the small letter "g"

The writers called Jesus and others like Moses God (THEOS) but for Jehovah they rendered the title (THEON) meaning the two are not the same person. That's the import!

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is your problem!

My friend, you're alone in the search for truth {Matthew 7:13-14} it's after you've found the truth that you will now have brothers and sisters with whom you will share the same line of thought. Matthew 12:46-50

Not just following a confused crowd of people having contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines whose only intention is to antagonize a specific group with unique Identity!

Only JEHOVAH is rendered THEON (GOD) in the Greek text but whenever it has to do with Jesus it's always THEOS (God) of course there is no meaning in rendering a title doctor or Doctor because it's just a title!

@ Matthew 1:23 it's THEOS (God) which could be used for Jesus, Moses and any other God for that matter. But whenever you see THEON it means JEHOVAH (God)

THE GOD" Greek 3588 2316.
Trinitarians omitted Greek 3588 ,e get why

Bishopkingsley:


So, who is speaking in Isaiah 48:12-13?

Isaiah 48:12-13
[12] “Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last.
[13] Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together.?

The reason they can not answer you is because they don't even know that part of the Bible exist

Now they will take that part to their governing body to seek solutions to your questions

The governing body will sit to manipulate the answer or like MaxInDHouse told me they will include it in the new light message lol

They have the right in the future to believe that Jesus is almighty God

According to MaxInDHouse so their teaching can change any moment..

Lol that is sign of instability the cult in JW is strong

sagenaija:
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MaxinDHouse, Thank you. Now, who is speaking here:
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Revelation 1:17‭-‬18 NIV

sagenaija:

MaxinDHouse, do you see the "I am the First, I am also the Last" in Isaiah 48 and the "I am the First and the Last" in Revelation 1?

You said that the the First and the Last in Isaiah 48 is Jehovah and the one in Revelation is Jesus.

Now, are there two different "the First and the Last" persons ‐ one being Jehovah and the other Jesus Christ?

MightySparrow:



Don't mind the GB, Prov. 8: 22 doesn't clearly talk about creation but 'possession'. Which can be literally means "owned', 'have' neither is it referring to any particular Accounts of creation. The JW interprete the Bible with bad extrapolations.

When you ask critical questions, the coil away. Only people of low reasoning level can swallow their doctrines.

orunto27:
They just choose to LIMIT THE POWERS OF THE ALMIGHTY.

shadeyinka:

When people are demonized, the best one can do is to pray for them.

Heb 1:5-8:
"For to which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten you? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he brings in the first-begotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he said, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom."
If Jesus was an angel, then he wouldn't have been the begotten Son.
Let the Angels worship Him, not let the other angels worship Him.
And then, the Father calls the Son God.

But, the JW organisation says otherwise and so they follow sheepishly.

Masoretic Text Psalms 45:6-7.
Your throne given of God/ your throne is from God/ God is your throne"
Catholic Jerusalem Bible/Byington Bible,
The Message Bible/NWT/ Moffat Bible etc
(confirmed @ Luke 1:31-33, 2 Chro9:.

Your Trinitarian mentors TWISTED Hebrews 1:8.

Angel/Malak, meaning son of God,Job 2:1 NIV.
Which angel is not begotten by God their Father?

Bishopkingsley:
The cult is a strong one that why we say JW is a cult not among Christianity

Bishopkingsley:
JW hate Jesus when they preach lies about him when you belittle someone who has no beginning that is hate the same hate devil has on Jesus

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society—also known as the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Watchtower Society—is one religious organization that claims definite answers to all questions about Jesus Christ. This unusual religious movement, founded in 1884 by Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916), and now led by a small committee of supposedly inspired biblical interpreters claims to have the final word about the person and work of Jesus, as well as all other theological issues. Millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses believe confidently that the Watchtower Society’s positions indisputably are correct and any opinions to the contrary are wrong.

Bishopkingsley:
the Watchtower Society’s Bible, The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT), translates John 1:1: “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.”

The Watchtower Society asserts that since the Greek language has no indefinite articles (a or an), the article can be used where needed in translating; thus they insert “a” before god to emphasize the Word’s (Christ’s) inferiority to God. This biased rendering cannot be justified grammatically and has been rejected by every reputable Greek scholar.

This dishonest Bishop LIENUS
Greek 1510 2316 @ Acts 28:6 "was a god"
Greek 1510 2316 @ John 1:1 "was a god"
Very very Greek grammatically correct.
Theologian James Moffat & Goodspeed are well known Trinitarian scholars.
John 1:1 Moffat Bible & Goodspeed Bible , Bishop,go & confirm that.
Also proven Screenshots evidences.

Bishopkingsley:
The Watchtower Society also errs in its interpretation of Colossians 1:15-20. They interpret the word “firstborn” in verse 15 to mean “first-created.” However, the firstborn (prototokos) principle in Hebrew culture refers to privilege and superiority, not to priority in time. Also, the Watchtower Society has presumptuously added to its translation of verses 16-20 by parenthetically inserting “other” in several places where no word appears in the Greek text. This unwarranted addition is made so the text will conform to the Watchtower Society’s theological position on Christ.

Because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist” (Col. 1:16-17, NWT).

You don't want firstborn to be first CREATED or born first, but you want born again to be a new CREATURE.
Hypocrisy speaks volumes.

Emphasis on BORN /CREATURE

Bishopkingsley:
Jesus clearly indicated the physical aspect of His resurrection when He appeared to His disciples. “And He said to them, ‘Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have'” (Luke 24:38-39, NASB).

Jesus clearly indicated the physical aspect of His resurrection when He appeared to His disciples. “And He said to them, ‘Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have'” (Luke 24:38-39, NASB).

https://www.nairaland.com/6702940/jehovahs-witnesses-occultic-view-christ

shadeyinka:

Sorry sir!
The Lord does not know ECWA. The Lord knows each of His children in ECWA, these His people make up the Church. ECWA is just a denomination and it doesn't replace Christ and His Lordship in people's lives.
It's not all who say to Me Lord Lord that shall enter the kingdom of Heaven. It's not a group thing sir.

That is why Jesus says in the parable of the wheat and tares.

Mat 13:29-30:
"But he said, No; lest while you gather up the tares, you root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather you together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

Janosky:

John 9:4, Acts 15:14,17, is WE the group chosen to bear Jehovah's name?
Will Jesus gather only one stick of wheat?

EFULEFU1:

A fool busy fighting his maker, Jesus Christ. You will see Him on His Judgment Seat

Janosky:


John 17:4-5,24 did Jesus share his Father's glory in the physical realm?

Why would God raise him to heaven in human form?

MaxInDHouse:

You quoted me first on this particular thread after you ran away saying you won't dare me again!
I will always silence you shadeyinka so before coming to face me next time in any scriptural debates remember it's still the same Maximus!

Janosky:


Genesis14:19,22, how did JEHOVAH possess heaven and earth?
Proverbs 8:22-30, 1 Corinthians1:24,Jesus Christ is "the Wisdom" personified as 'Craftsman' working for JEHOVAH his Father.
Bros,you go write your Bible to suit your Trinitarian taste

shadeyinka:

Wrestling with a pig is never worth it!