Lexusgs430:


PM entitlement benefit for life ......... If you also become the PM, you go chop inside.......

I feel they would tweak that entitlement[b][/b]...........

Kia, as I deh plan my no 10 route

Zahra29:


Lol, I said that ihs fees is peanuts compared to the actual cost of treatment (obviously if you never require treatment then it may seem exorbitant and an unfair tax which is understandable). Furthermore, student ihs fees are cheaper than the ihs fees on other visa routes.

You guys are ignorant. Ihs is not cheaper for students it's prorated at 1 year and four months for students so it looks cheaper than other visa routes which are more in duration than student visas. Even if it were cheaper you expect students who can only work for 20 hrs week to pay same with those working for more hours. This beef with students is something else. And if you think it's cheaper than cost of treatment, are immigrants not better than citizens not paying at all. Let them pay something too nah.

Munamoqel:
how many countries do you know? Irish student visa no depandants only PhD student ! Germany block accounts ,US interview

Block account and interview... doesn't mean the visa doesn't allow dependent so why call the US. There are many people with their families together in America

Omo!!! The hate on STUDENTS is really strong and pathetic.

Zahra29:


Try to make your point without resorting to calling people names -ignoramus, ignorant, olodos- take it easy lol

You guys are irritating, let people live with their decisions and don't dictate to them. Ok

Zahra29:


I don't think anyone here will defend you on this point. The NHS might not be perfect but it is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest that the health system in Nig is better.

You may not have needed to use the NHS, but many have literally had their lives saved by the NHS and the bonus is they didn't have to bankrupt themselves in the process - unlike places like US and other 1st world countries you seem to think are better. So yes, while it's not perfect I'm very proud and grateful for the NHS and I hope it will get even better going forward.

Do I look like I need a defense or speak my thoughts for validation?

The operative word here is access... If people have to wait weeks unend for an appointment in the UK whereas, they can just walk into a hospital in Nigeria to receive attention and treatment, tell which one works then?

These things are just simple.

I have not compared quality... Let people have access in the first instance before we move on to discuss quality.

AKALAMAGBO:
Omo!!! The hate on STUDENTS is really strong and pathetic.

It's a shame, most of Nigerian elites in the past who have foreign citizenship migrated as students even with govt scholarships. They are angry seeing Nigerians without govt support taking their destiny in their hands. Even if people fail, who are you to decide for them

Gemma11:


Young Nigerian mothers are dying recklessly anyhow from childbirth, young Nigerians are being left untreated and left to die because of lack of health care in Nigerian and you are proud...You say that with foolish pride. Foolish pride that allows you to compare the Nigerian healthcare to that of the UK's NHS service.

Yes the NHS needs reform because it vital system which should be always be in the transient state of progress and not static like the health system in Nigeria. No one is denying that. However for a newcomer like you to come into the UK to start criticising what you don't have in your homeland reeks nothing but the height of hypocrisy and obnoxiousness.

Look at this chart below and read with your foolish pride. Nigerian women are dying recklessly from preventable ailments during childbirth and you say you are proud. That is nothing but sheer evil on your part and you are part of the problem in Nigeria. Continue burying your head in the sand whilest criticising the NHS.

People like you deserve to stay in Nigeria because una na dey get mouth pass...That P must never reach your hand.

Yes hand me down properties that are generating nearly £20k a month...Jealousy no good o..lol

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/429266-despite-having-highest-maternal-mortality-in-africa-nigerias-situation-still-underreported-report.html

These are my last words to you on this matter.

I don't care wherever you go to pull your stats from, it is not entirely a representation of the facts on ground in Nigeria.

Nigeria is not an eldorado, we have some of the most fantastically corrupt persons in government and fantastically corrupt government institutions but I know for certain that access to basic healthcare is a service that is available to most, whether it is privately driven or government supported, and this service is better and cheaper in Nigeria than in the UK.

For migrant students. You can't stop the flood gates. Nigerians in droves will continue to come as it remains legally able to do so, and I reckon the UK government will continue to allow it for 2 reasons.

1. The money is sweet and hard to pass up.
2. They get access to cheap labour for rolling terms.

Try being Liz Truss for a day and you would see why stopping migrants (lots of £££ paying like the Nigerian Student) is such a hard call to make.

Finally. You may have to go pray really hard about a pending heartbreak. Because this black nyash boy from Nigeria will get surely get the P and there is nothing you can do about it.

LagosismyHome:


Next sales section online

Thanks a lot �

Gemma11:


I never generalised anyone. I specifically stated that my points were directed at those mature students packing all of their families here to the UK and then complaining that there was no suitable student accomodation to house those families plus the fact that their children were taken up places in schools etc...again i was only talking about those particular individuals on student visas and not genuine students or those on other visas. You just don't like to hear the truth but guess what.....


...My views have not changed.

Madam, hope there are transformers around you that you can hug if none you can use a nearby sea cos you are just unnecessarily bitter and jealous about the progress of others.

Na wa for the gbasgbos going on oo, reading and reading for days.

It is interesting how some think skilled worker applicants are somehow better than student visa applicant.

The absolute truth is the income from international students and their dependant has ripple effects on the economy.

Unis like hull, Sunderland etc could have sacked staffs due to redundancy and alll. But see how education sector is all booming and including that of UKVI.
Add IHS/NI/tax etc, its simple mathematics

iboboyswag:


These are my last words to you on this matter.

I don't care wherever you go to pull your stats from, it is not entirely a representation of the facts on ground in Nigeria.

Nigeria is not an eldorado, we have some of the most fantastically corrupt persons in government and fantastically corrupt government institutions but I know for certain that access to basic healthcare is a service that is available to most, whether it is privately driven or government supported, and this service is better and cheaper in Nigeria than in the UK.

For migrant students. You can't stop the flood gates. Nigerians in droves will continue to come as it remains legally able to do so, and I reckon the UK government will continue to allow it for 2 reasons.

1. The money is sweet and hard to pass up.
2. They get access to cheap labour for rolling terms.

Try being Liz Truss for a day and you would see why stopping migrants (lots of £££ paying like the Nigerian Student) is such a hard call to make.

Finally. You may have to go pray really hard about a pending heartbreak. Because this black nyash boy from Nigeria will get surely get the P and there is nothing you can do about it.

Denial is a river in Egypt. Please whenever you need medical treatment just bypass the NHS and go and wait in that your Nigeria where many people are dying everyday because they have fake or substandard medication available.
https://punchng.com/how-fake-drugs-threaten-nigerias-multi-billion-pharma-industry/

Liz Truss messed up the budget. It had nothing to do with immigrants. Also if Boris is installed he will more than likely bring back Bravaman who will then implement her rutheless policy to limit the number of Student dependencies in the UK.

Have a good day.

babajeje123:

Madam, hope there are transformers around you that you can hug if none you can use a nearby sea cos you are just unnecessarily bitter and jealous about the progress of others.

I am bitter because I am speaking out against people who have fleecing the system. You must be one of them. Please sit down.

Gemma11:

I am bitter because I am speaking out against people who have fleecing the system. You must be one of them. Please sit down.

You're being needlessly aggressive. Accusing everyone who holds a different opinion from you of being 'one of them' is childishly absurd. This is like the third person whom you're accusing of that and it's actually funny because if you knew them, you'd realise how ridiculous it is.

Gemma11:


Not every black Nigerian person 'came' to the UK. Some of us are born and raised in this land. My parents were paying Uk taxes long before I was born here in London. I am now also paying my own share....na you get bad belle..lol

Anyway the reason why I contributed to this thread was just to help genuine students and Nigerian immigrants answer questions about life in the UK not those who want to play ojoro to fleece the system.

Taking you back to this, @Gemma. What changed? It is true that some people are absuing the system but they remain a very small minority. Or has it been your perception that most people here are doing any sort of ojoro?

The vast majority of Nigerians migrating (whether on student route or not) are doing so legitimately. Even if things like POF loans etc are on the rise, it doesn't really matter because those people don't access public funds in the UK and still work and pay taxes just as anyone else would.

And as to people in their 40s going to study. Yes it may be said that they are not really focused on studying and are rather intent on migrating with their families but again - so what? They have skills and are coming to study (this is mandatory because otherwise they won't be able to do any other thing) and then work afterward, The two partners will work and pay taxes just like anyone else and they will very likely even do more work to raise money to settle into the country, buy house etc. So how exactly is it a problem to anyone really? Nigerians didn't start economic migration - it has been a thing for literally millennia. Even the Braverman was born by migrants, as were Sunak, Badenoch and so many others.

Of course I have said before that the rise in numbers may be cause for concern, but that's a very different conversation from painting migrants with a tar brush merely on the basis of their countries of origin or their visa route.

The vast majority of migrants are hard working and diligent and they almost always accomplish highly from their studies to work - that I statistics, not opinion. I don't get what you appear so antsy about tbh.

Two things can be true at the same time - migration via student route and otherwise is beneficial for the UK economy, and it is also being abused. The simple solution is to close the loopholes and not to demonise the migrants.

Gemma11:


Yeah her focus should be on Nigerians because they are abusing the system.

Students are normally single people

Students consisting of a grown man/wife & partner with 3- 5 kids is not normal and taxing on the system. Yes they are paying for healthcare but are they also paying for school places, books, pens, free food and all the other amenities that these children use? It is something when British Born children can't find a place in school because a new Nigerian immigrant child has taken their place.

There are more Indians and Chinese coming in as students than Nigerians but these are genuine students coming alone to study. It is the Nigerians who are packing whole families here.

Suella will be back. She probably only resigned so that she could do so before the PM.

Someone bold enough to tell the bitter truth. …

Goke7:


It's difficult to keep quiet when some folks wants to present Nigerians as the worse humans in the world. Kolewerk

Sometimes leaving people to their miseries will keep them quiet at some point.

The more you grant them audience, the more drama unfolds and start having scenario where insults and tantrums are been thrown around

Say no to immigration abi ....

oya make people continue to fight and live with staff shortage in several industries . Make we all enjoy panic attack, e go touch everybody .

In the meantime any Nigerian who wants to relocate continue, grace will follow you and you will find your feet and your path

Gemma11:


It is actually around 25% to 33% on average.

I am talking about people earning over £150K

LagosismyHome:
Say no to immigration abi ....

oya make people continue to fight and live with staff shortage in several industries . Make we all enjoy panic attack, e go touch everybody .

In the meantime any Nigerian who wants to relocate continue, grace will follow you and you will find your feet and your path

Sorry if i seem ignorant but how come there is staff shortage in a lot of industries? Why dont a lot of citizens do these jobs? Is it cos theyre minimum wage jobs or theyre too hard?

My colleague was telling me about when she used to cook for one restaurant and they literally used to beg people not to quit

phyl123:


Someone bold enough to tell the bitter truth. …

Abeg Abeg. No add your own join

leef2022:


Kia, as I deh plan my no 10 route

For double decker bus ........

hustla:



Sorry if i seem ignorant but how come there is staff shortage in a lot of industries? Why dont a lot of citizens do these jobs? Is it cos theyre minimum wage jobs or theyre too hard?

My colleague was telling me about when she used to cook for one restaurant and they literally used to beg people not to quit

To run an economy and grow it, you need workforce to make it run like a well oiled machine.... all these years what have been saving UK is hardworking EU people that have been coming . Even if their citizens work, its not enough labour to run the economy efficiently

But I guess the EU were not appreciated and all we were hearing is they are taking our jobs, they are taking up the NHS, our benefit.... ok. Brexit happened and EU people have jejely be packing their load, why stay where you are not wanted .

Now a self made problem has arisen and will continue to grow and grow .... Shrinking workforce problem . Let me see how UK can operate with no labour. ...... it would have been good self if Nigerians or indians were not coming to save their ass, it is them that would have been going to force immigrants that abeg come na.

LagosismyHome:


To run an economy and grow it, you need workforce to make it run like a well oiled machine.... all these years what have been saving UK is hardworking EU people that have been coming . Even if their citizens work, its not enough labour to run the economy efficiently

But I guess the EU were not appreciated and all we were hearing is they are taking our jobs, they are taking up the NHS, our benefit.... ok. Brexit happened and EU people have jejely be packing their load, why stay where you are not wanted .

Now a self made problem has arisen and will continue to grow and grow .... Shrinking workforce problem . Let me see how UK can operate with no labour. ...... it would have been good self if Nigerians or indians were not coming to save their ass, it is them that would have been going to force immigrants that abeg come na.

I think this explains it

Even with the high number of students they have let in, it does not seem enough to fill those jobs. I think I asked Lexus a few months ago why the NHS is understaffed and workers say work wants to finish them

They probably need to come up with a policy that will help them balance it all out instead of complaining when immigrants come in. Maybe better pay like Australia or easy to get visa (which they are currently doing now).

koonbey:


You're being needlessly aggressive. Accusing everyone who holds a different opinion from you of being 'one of them' is childishly absurd. This is like the third person whom you're accusing of that and it's actually funny because if you knew them, you'd realise how ridiculous it is.

So if I return insult I am being aggressive? I don't think so.

Lordfiido:
Abeg Abeg. No add your own join

Truth is a very bitter pill to swallow……

Lexusgs430:


For double decker bus ........

I go make u secretary of state transport

koonbey:


Taking you back to this, @Gemma. What changed? It is true that some people are absuing the system but they remain a very small minority. Or has it been your perception that most people here are doing any sort of ojoro?

The vast majority of Nigerians migrating (whether on student route or not) are doing so legitimately. Even if things like POF loans etc are on the rise, it doesn't really matter because those people don't access public funds in the UK and still work and pay taxes just as anyone else would.

And as to people in their 40s going to study. Yes it may be said that they are not really focused on studying and are rather intent on migrating with their families but again - so what? They have skills and are coming to study (this is mandatory because otherwise they won't be able to do any other thing) and then work afterward, The two partners will work and pay taxes just like anyone else and they will very likely even do more work to raise money to settle into the country, buy house etc. So how exactly is it a problem to anyone really? Nigerians didn't start economic migration - it has been a thing for literally millennia. Even the Braverman was born by migrants, as were Sunak, Badenoch and so many others.

Of course I have said before that the rise in numbers may be cause for concern, but that's a very different conversation from painting migrants with a tar brush merely on the basis of their countries of origin or their visa route.

The vast majority of migrants are hard working and diligent and they almost always accomplish highly from their studies to work - that I statistics, not opinion. I don't get what you appear so antsy about tbh.

Two things can be true at the same time - migration via student route and otherwise is beneficial for the UK economy, and it is also being abused. The simple solution is to close the loopholes and not to demonise the migrants.

I never denied that Nigerians were hard working or that the ones fleecing the system were the majority.

I only replied to a comment about Suella Bravaman and he stance against those Nigerians who were taking the UK system for a ride by emigrating under the pretense of study but bringing their whole families. As I said there are genuine students and those on worker visas who do not deserve to have their opportunities compromised because of others.

Others in this thread took it to mean that I was talking about every Nigerian which was simply not true and I just defended my comments. Those who are coming at me from all corners trying to insult are probably triggered because they are in the category of those fleecing the system...I mean if the shoe doesn't fit then why try to defend such bad behaviour from people just because you come from the same country?

I am born and raised in the UK from Nigerian immigrants. I know full well the bad behaviour some newly arrived Nigerians impact on us of direct Nigerian descent who have lived and breathed the UK all our lives. So I feel I am well placed to call out this bad behaviour in the community because it will only serve to make others look down on those who arrive in the country for genuine reasons.

phyl123:


I am talking about people earning over £150K

Still nowhere near 60%

phyl123:


Truth is a very bitter pill to swallow……

Okay ehn agreed. Don’t add your own Abeg Abeg.

hustla:


One will come through, just a matter of time

Plenty PM jobs around , I suppose?

Amen oh! Well yea, a lot of PM roles and then some Operations/Admin, Delivery manager and Implementation manager, and Business Analyst roles disguising as PM roles.

Amarathripple0:


Amen oh! Well yea, a lot of PM roles and then some Operations/Admin, Delivery manager and Implementation manager, and Business Analyst roles disguising as PM roles.

A couple of people have asked about BA roles from me, is it easy to get into? Suitable for women? (them no like wahala )