hupernikao:


You know the real point here is that you agreed that those characters werent fictional. That goes a long way to help in your study in future. I appreciate your diligence in doing research. I am sure years back you would have denied their existence just like some still do today, but now you have read further and more, and see their existence. The other issues will come to roast over the years.

Victorian London is real, not because Sherlock Holmes story describe it, but because history substantiated it. Pilate realness does not establish the historical Jesus

hupernikao:


Your points above are purely Christian theology and am sure you dont hold the view, hence i wont have the discussion with you. The school of thoughts and systems you mentioned above are on the premise of theology. I will rather discuss it with someone who holds them as believe not you as you dont believe in it.

Lastly, they are ideas founded on study of the scriptures and believe in God. I dont think you also affirms any of that. So, I will let them pass because it will take your trust in the truth of the scriptures to speak on any of those doctrines above. If you dont hold such believe, all the doctrines you listed with fall flat behind your ears no matter how loud the explanation is.

Remember I am an ex- Christian You suppose look well. Adress the question buddy.

Is John 1:1 asserting Jesus was created or supporting the claims of Homoousian?

Why would 1 John 4:2 subtly attack against Marcionism and Docetism which process Jesus is a mere illusion? Oh possibly is your own version of Jesus historical?

What is the root of gnosticism in Christianity?

Please answer these questions sir

FOLYKAZE:


Remember I am an ex- Christian You suppose look well. Adress the question buddy.

Is John 1:1 asserting Jesus was created or supporting the claims of Homoousian?

Why would 1 John 4:2 subtly attack against Marcionism and Docetism which process Jesus is a mere illusion? Oh possibly is your own version of Jesus historical?

What is the root of gnosticism in Christianity?

Please answer these questions sir

I can't be discussing diverse doctrine with you when you don't hold any of them. You have to come out well on doctrine you hold then we can start discussion. But putting up many doctrines that span over decades for discussion at a time won't be productive.

FOLYKAZE:


Victorian London is real, not because Sherlock Holmes story describe it, but because history substantiated it. Pilate realness does not establish the historical Jesus

Like I said, you are already in the middle of something, the end will come full. It's a journey.

FOLYKAZE:


Why you not start with Jewish Messiah to know that the idea of Christ went beyond 8BC

You can only discuss Jewish Messiah from the point of the scriptures not sentiment. You can start now.