AmazingELixir:


What myopic view...So Abuja is now a northern state...even have the temerity to compare Rivers and Kano VAT input at 6% to 5%. Better wake up to reality and recheck your data source.

Next online is complete resource control...by then your current tears will turn red.

In your dysfunctional ipob brain Fct is in the south!

LibertyRep:
Lawyers can so much make a simple case unnecessarily complicated.

What stops the judge from stating it clearly in unambiguous language like:

" I hereby order that River State and any other state should stop the process of collecting VAT until the appeal is determined."

� �..lol

All institutions in Nigeria is a mess... We don't have strong institutions... We are in shambles.

sirvic68:
I wish Wike and Sanwo-Olu wins this. But Appeal court will soon over rule the judgement. Las las Bubu and supreme court go intervene on behalf of FIRS.

This country's judiciary system is a mess.

A don talk am. Lagos will die there. The brain that Asiwaju (Jagaban) and Prof Osinabjo used to box OBJ to corner when he was the president legally with law to collect taxes is still there. I am telling you, since Lagos has joined Wike, FG has lost VAT. Forget it. Lagos will die there cos they know how much they are making from taxes. Oh! All VAT from Tin Can Island, and Muritala Muhammed Airport.... Yee Paaaa! Lagos don win lotto. Jagaban and his warrior will die there. All VAT from oil companies for River alone...jack pot....lol. Dem no send Buhari and Abuja. If this will break the little friendship remaining btw Buhari and Jagaban, I know Tinubu will not send. All other SW states have joined. Dem no send Buhari. I keep saying it that SW is the fore runner of this Nigeria. Only that Igbo should wake up too. Igbo Kwenu. Let's go there. E no go better for anyone wey say Naija no go get better. Let's go.

APCNig:


Educated Almajari. Go and say this nonsense to your fellow Almajaris.

Go and keep VAT from your Grains while we keep VAT from our Beer.

You know this VAT thing is like a basta*d child confidently demanding for DNA test in protest against sharing the inheritance with another child he or she considers to be undeserving.
If every State stands alone, you will realise that your bragging is on thin air. We have clearly seen that Lagos, Abuja, Rivers, Kano lead the pack.
If we carry out a simple VAT fertility you will see that your State is VAT impotent....and your much touted beer VAT are blank shots.
Na just gum body dey make una think say your state dey fertile.

Terrier99:
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Mai gworo, you haven't seen anything yet. All Southern States will soon ban okada riding. Then, we will build ranches and when we are self sufficient in meat production, we pass health regulations that cattle to be sold for public consumption must pass state health checks.
Dan Fodio will cry bitterly by the time we're done.

Arewa shall not be a tribal nation or a theocratic dogmatists nation like Biafra or Odua. Arewa is a modern nation of nations were Hausa, Fulani, Angas, Yoruba, Igbo, Jarawa, Kanuri, Nupe, white men, yellow men and black men coexist.
Arewa is not a crusader nation like Biafra where those who do not practice the state religion will be killed and chased out.
Arewa Republic is not ethnocentric like Odua where if a man does not bear Yoruba name is seen as a half human to be subjected to descrimination and set to be killed by elite sponsored tribal terrorists like Odua or cursed to die in the Lagoon by a tribal chief
That is why we have half-Yoruba man as the Emir of Kano, the biggestst Kingdom in Hausaland. That is why Arewa was led in war during the Civil War by an Angas Christian, Yakubu Gowon.

That is why the xenophobic tribalists of the west and the end time black crusaders of the east hate us and are doing their best to divide us and conquer. Come what may, we shall remain the richest in terms of resources and the largest in terms of population in Africa, Arewa is the heart of Africa. This is why the malevolent envious ones want to see it in chaos. We shall surmout the current troubles and emerge strong. We are the Phoenix that always emerges renewed from the ashes of conflagration.
We have demonstrated our capacity to uphold minority rights despite the constants instigations of the minority by the tribo-religious extremists of the South. We shall in our independent nation secure human rights, religious freedom, minority rights, cultural autonomy and we shall efface the faces of induced terrorists. Let the bakwarward tribalists and neo-crusaders die of envy. It is a quetion of time and men of my vision to take over leadership. It is written and shall it be. #Hausa Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.

mu2sa2:
God bless you. I have said it before that more revenue does not necessarily translate to better service delivery. Imagine, Wike is wasting hundreds of millions all over the place but is refusing to pay pension and gratuities to elderly people who served the state all their youthful years and are now helpless!
On VAT, many people are being misled into thinking only northern states will suffer if central collection by FIRS is stopped. But that's far from the truth. FG will immediately rake in over 50% of the present collection by taking all of collection on imports. At present there is only one percentage point difference between rivers(6%) and kano (5%) contribution to Vat collection. Kano, kaduna and fct contribution is more than that of SE states combined.
Wike is just dancing to the gallery.

You must be a Northerner no doubt. Let Lagos money remain in Lagos, Yobe money remain in Yobe and Anambra money remain in Anambra. What is bad about that?
Even all the oil Money should remain in Niger Delta and all the importation money should remain in Lagos.
I am from South East but want Lagos to keep their money for themselves. The north is not contributing anything to the purse and still want to call the shots.

Work hard and earn your money. Stop being a parasite

Nigeria may never move forward as a nation if true federalism is not made operational.



In federations such as the USA,Germany, Canada, etc, there's a central government but with partially self-governing states, regions or provinces as the case may be.



These states are entitled to a wide range of independence provided they carry out their constitutional obligations to the central government.



In Nigeria of today, what is touted as a "federation" is nothing but a "unitary" system of administration devoid of federalism.



Shebi we say we be "Federal" Republic of Nigeria?



The central government in Nigeria has consistently and continually encroached on areas that normally should belong to the states.

franktech:


You must be a Northerner no doubt. Let Lagos money remain in Lagos, Yobe money remain in Yobe and Anambra money remain in Anambra. What is bad about that?
Even all the pill Money should remain in Niger Delta and all the importation money should remain in Lagos.
I am from South East but want Lagos to keep their money for themselves. The north is not contributing anything to the purse and still want to call the shots.

Work hard and earn your money. Stop being a parasite

You're a joker, no doubt.

mu2sa2:
In your dysfunctional ipob brain Fct is in the south!

You see why after 5 attempts you are yet to pass your O Level exams... an obvious case of too much ingestion of cow urine ..

Now I repeat the question again with a little more clarity since you're cerebrally very weak "Is Abuja a Northern state or a territory carved out and administered by the central government?"

PeaceJoyLove:
A don talk am. Lagos will die there. The brain that Asiwaju (Jagaban) and Prof Osinabjo used to box OBJ to corner when he was the president legally with law to collect taxes is still there. I am telling you, since Lagos has joined Wike, FG has lost VAT. Forget it. Lagos will die there cos they know how much they are making from taxes. Oh! All VAT from Tin Can Island, and Muritala Muhammed Airport.... Yee Paaaa! Lagos don win lotto. Jagaban and his warrior will die there. All VAT from oil companies for River alone...jack pot....lol. Dem no send Buhari and Abuja. If this will break the little friendship remaining btw Buhari and Jagaban, I know Tinubu will not send. All other SW states have joined. Dem no send Buhari. I keep saying it that SW is the fore runner of this Nigeria. Only that Igbo should wake up too. Igbo Kwenu. Let's go there. E no go better for anyone wey say Naija no go get better. Let's go.

Are you serious?Tin can, MM airport and other key federal establishments pay Vat to Lagos govt? That won't ever happen - and Lagos govt can nothing about it. All this VAT noise is just dancing to the gallery ahead of 2023 election. Hahahaha, Wike for president!
Truth is, central collection of Vat is even more cost effective. The only issue is distribution formula- 20% allocated to contribution and whopping 50% to equality. Without resorting to dishing out stupendous bribes to corrupt judges for favourable judgement, sanity should prevail by reviewing the distribution formula, giving more priority to contribution. Simple as ABC!

I understand what the lawyers are saying. Rivers State house of assembly passed a law giving legal backing to VAT collection. There is no court in the country that invalidated the Rivers' VAT law. It there/4 means that Rivers State govt will continue to collect VAT until a higher court set the VAT law set aside.

Finally they triumphed. want's know if the heavens will spring and heck spike.

mu2sa2:
You're a joker, no doubt.

Why do you say so?
It is not good for each state to keep their wealth?
Texas have oil and the oil is for Texas state alone.
Zamfara gold belongs to Zamfara

Swaycater:
I heard a commissioner from Kogi State saying Kogi will not be a party to calls for states to callect VATs, hearing these things sometimes breaks my heart, Why are people Soo daft? Even those in postion of authority who should know the right thing to do, would supporting FG give Yahaya Bello Apc presidential ticket?

You don't know what is VAT, vat cannot be collected by STATE, it would lead to multiple taxes , go and study what is VAT..

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Ibkhaleel001:
Arewa shall not be a tribal nation or a theocratic dogmatists nation like Biafra or Odua. Arewa is a modern nation of nations were Hausa, Fulani, Angas, Yoruba, Igbo, Jarawa, Kanuri, Nupe, white men, yellow men and black men coexist.
Arewa is not a crusader nation like Biafra where those who do not practice the state religion will be killed and chased out.
Arewa Republic is not ethnocentric like Odua where if a man does not bear Yoruba name is seen as a half human to be subjected to descrimination and set to be killed by elite sponsored tribal terrorists like Odua or cursed to die in the Lagoon by a tribal chief
That is why we have half-Yoruba man as the Emir of Kano, the biggestst Kingdom in Hausaland. That is why Arewa was led in war during the Civil War by an Angas Christian, Yakubu Gowon.

That is why the xenophobic tribalists of the west and the end time black crusaders of the east hate us and are doing their best to divide us and conquer. Come what may, we shall remain the richest in terms of resources and the largest in terms of population in Africa, Arewa is the heart of Africa. This is why the malevolent envious ones want to see it in chaos. We shall surmout the current troubles and emerge strong. We are the Phoenix that always emerges renewed from the ashes of conflagration.
We have demonstrated our capacity to uphold minority rights despite the constants instigations of the minority by the tribo-religious extremists of the South. We shall in our independent nation secure human rights, religious freedom, minority rights, cultural autonomy and we shall efface the faces of induced terrorists. Let the bakwarward tribalists and neo-crusaders die of envy. It is a quetion of time and men of my vision to take over leadership. It is written and shall it be. #Hausa Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.

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Arewa is aimimg to be an Islamic country but you will fail just as you have been failing right from time. Once Buhari leaves, fulanis will see pepper within Arewa.

mu2sa2:
Are you serious. Tin can, MM airport and other key federal establishments pay Vat to Lagos govt? That won't ever happen - and Lagos govt can so nothing about it. All this VAT noise is just dancing to the gallery ahead of 2023 election. Hahahaha, Wike for president!

Most on these guys on Nairaland are too daft

AmazingELixir:


You see why after 5 attempts you are yet to pass your O Level exams... an obvious case of too much ingestion of cow urine ..

Now I repeat the question again with a little more clarity since you're cerebrally very weak "Is Abuja a Northern state or a territory carved out and administered by the central government?"

Carved out of the south, abi?

Joysticks:
If this VAT controversy that FG and state government are at loggerheads over who should be in charge of collection is to be use for the good of the people I won't be bothered.They will collect it and missappropriate it.What have they being using the ones that they have been collecting to do if not stealing it?

Its easier to fight state government than federal government. Let's win this first and see if Local governments won't take state governments to court to demand for collection of VAT on a local government basis... Restructuring just started and its gonna benefit us...

AroleOduduwa2:


Stop misleading people, no body will deduct your transferred funds, VAT means Value added tax, which will be deducted from VAT vendors (company that are tax compliance).

mainly referring to all forms of consumption tax.

Terrier99:
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Arewa is aimimg to be an Islamic country but you will fail just as you have been failing right from time. Once Buhari leaves, fulanis will see pepper within Arewa.

So sharia countries bare bad to you? Okay lets see for ourselves


They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Odiegwu Really!
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

richmond500:
As a Rivers man, this VAT sweet me but is the common man going to gain anything?

People have been begging Wike to pay pensions, he has been deaf to their request and punishing Rivers people. Now to collect money, he is at the forefront.
The common shop seller who doesn't know VAT, will be tormented by Wike's tout from now on, I like this VAT ruling but Wike's not doing this for the state, he is just being selfish.

Carry flyovers deh deceive Nigeria meanwhile ask the common River state man, u will know Wike is not trying

I don't like any of them. But Wike's argument is valid. Imagine Rivers pays Julius Berger 10b for contract, and VAT is 7.5%. that means 750million goes to FG from Rivers money. When it comes to time for FG to share the VAT, Kano state would get more than Rivers and Lagos. That's the challenge. Same goes for tax on alcohol. States drinking alcohol pay tax and Shariah states up North not paying alcohol tax would share from the money of tax for alcohol. It's wrong.

Ibkhaleel001:
Lack of solid understanding of our diversity is the reason for the needless animosity and distrust everywhere. Alcohol is frowned at in the north and the noise is that revenue from alcohol collected from States that permit sales of beer should not be shared with the states of northern Nigeria. Very valid argument but we also forgot that the same north supplies the grains used in brewing alcohol oh . So las las every region is dependent on one another - we are mutual parasites! Mutually musing

Correction plz. Grains are bought by brewery companies or are they for free? Parasites never give up. U sell ur grains and still share from VAT. Haba! Hypocrisy

Ibkhaleel001:
So sharia countries bare bad to you? Okay lets see for ourselves


They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Odiegwu Really!
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

Your Sultan sent his children to school in the uk.
Buhari goes to the uk to receive treatment.
Sani yerima sent his wife to the uk to give birth cos he wants his child to be a citizen.
Yar'Adua was treated in Germany and died in the uk.

None of these almajiri breeders agreed to have anything to do with Islamic countries.
They are all hypocrites.

Winters23:
Buhari thought his loopsided political appointments and policies is doing the north good, but on the long-run PMB have succeeded in opening the eyes of some southern leaders in taking what belongs to them from the North.

The north will suffer for PMB's crime a long time even after Buhari is long gone.

Buhari's wickedness have brought a lot of disaffection on his fulani people and trusting them with power again will take a whole lot of effort and hardwork.

how can they suffer when they have a thriving bandit industry?Bandit industry alone can generate enough vat to finance all the terrorism needed to make their Allah happy.

Ibkhaleel001:
Lack of solid understanding of our diversity is the reason for the needless animosity and distrust everywhere. Alcohol is frowned at in the north and the noise is that revenue from alcohol collected from States that permit sales of beer should not be shared with the states of northern Nigeria. Very valid argument but we also forgot that the same north supplies the grains used in brewing alcohol oh . So las las every region is dependent on one another - we are mutual parasites! Mutually musing

Is the grain free? Or does anyone force the north to sell grain against their wish?

Spin this as much as you can, the fact is that North is trying to reap where it did not sow. This VAT thing has exposed the laziness and hypocrisy in the North.

richmond500:
I am saying, will this VAT collection be useful to the common man?

So if it's not useful to common man for example, we should forget the money? Granted Wike is not perfect but don't get it twisted

richmond500:
I am saying, will this VAT collection be useful to the common man?

I understand but that that shouldn't be the problem now becauase the common man was not enjoying it when FIRS held it.

Ibkhaleel001:
From 1999 - 2015 (16 years) we did not hear Marginalization, Chritianization or Nepotism in Nigeria.

The Igbos, their cousins in South South & Christians were in total control of the Federal Executive Council, the National Assembly, the Army, Police at some point, DSS & office of the CJN etc.

In the 6 years of Jonathan, the Igbos alone where in total control of 85% of key federal executive & legislative positions as well as heads of strategic federal agencies & the Army.
The North & South West did not grudge them nor made cricket noises about Marginalization, Christianization, Igbonization or Nepotism.

They recognized that it's a party democracy that we are practicing in Nigeria & the party that wins share everything. PDP was winning for 16 years, so, Igbos & their PDP shared everything to themselves.
The North & West bidded their time without grudges, remained consistent with their smart politics in the opposition & by 2015, they succeeded in taking power at the centre.

The Igbos & their PDP, accustomed to power & looting of the treasury for 16 uninterrupted years could not believe they are out suddenly & could not imagine a life without the national treasury they enjoyed into emptiness for 16 years.

The Igbo politicians, federal ministers, Igbo hitherto heads of federal agecies, elites, federal contractors, Ohaneze & their looting Igbo Clergy accomplices with nothing to show their people the Igbos for their 16 years control of the federal government & the federal treasury;
their party PDP, with nothing to show Nigerians, with nothing to show the Igbos & campaign in the next elections as what they did in Nigeria or Igboland for 16 years in power controlling majority states in Nigeria & in Igboland, controlling the federal government & the federal treasury;
now quickly regrouped in a massive propaganda of lies & self-delusional campaigns of calumny against Buhari, his administration & APC claiming Marginalization & a hidden agenda of Islamization, Fulanization & Nepotism.
They regrouped from the pulpits, in Dubai, inside the bushes & forests around Nigeria with terrorists, bandits, armed cultists, IPOB & other insurgent militias to unleash terror & general insecurity in our land to cause mass discontent & insurrection against Buhari's APC administration because they have nothing as their achievement for 16 whole years to campaign with in any election in Nigeria.

The question then is;
at what point did the Igbos that own PDP, controlled the federal executive council, controlled the national treasury, controlled the army, controlled the police under Onovo, controlled the national assembly, controlled finance & the CBN, controlled majority of key federal agencies, controlled the Igbo states for 16 whole years & presently control over 50% of the properties in Nigeria including Lagos & Abuja, & till date control commerce in the 36 states of Nigeria become marginalised or enslaved by any other ethno-religious group in Nigeria?
Buhari's APC administration had something to show to Nigerians in 2019 as their 4 years achievements.
They will have hundred times more things to show Nigerians as their achievements come 2023.
In Igbo land, Buhari's APC have hundreds of achievements including multi billion naira ultra modern highways, bridges, interchanges, airports, seaports, railway lines, power projects, refineries (the one in Ohaji already completed & producing), agricultural projects, industrial parks & help to Igbo businesses to make them global players today (Innoson, Anammco, Choscaris, Air Peace, Oliserve just to name a few) & Ziks Mausoleum etc to show Igbo electorates as their achievements for 8 years.

Where is our Igbo brothers run PDP & government achievements in Nigeria or Igboland for 16 years they were in charge?
For the past 8 years, we Igbos & our diabolic PDP have no logical, clear nor cohorent intelligent strategy to win back power at the centre or at least get ourselves back into the mainstream of Nigeria's politics.
We are busy doping ourselves with infantile idiocy, making ourselves a stench in the nostrils of other Nigerians with our juvenile insults, abuses & swearings that smacks of lack of home training.
We have taken the most stupid self-defeating & self-annihilation path of killing oursleves & our SouthEast economy with the IPOB/ESN/Unknown Gunmen monster we are feeding, paying, equipping & covering.
On the eve of 2023 crucial elections that will define the next 50 years of Nigeria, we are "sitting at home" while the West & North are strategizing.
A sad shame indeed how a once thought intelligent people have allowed a selfish elite & their hired opportunistic conman - Kanu lead them by the nose into self destruction with lies & propaganda from the pit of hell to cover their 16 years of total failure & betrayal.

You don finish? North is the parasite.

My brother, you don't know lawyers. They will tell you that it is the process the judge stopped and that Rivers and Lagos states have concluded their processes. So they can go ahead and collect VAT.

LibertyRep:
Lawyers can so much make a simple case unnecessarily complicated.

What stops the judge from stating it clearly in unambiguous language like:

" I hereby order that River State and any other state should stop the process of collecting VAT until the appeal is determined."

Ibkhaleel001:
Arewa shall not be a tribal nation or a theocratic dogmatists nation like Biafra or Odua. Arewa is a modern nation of nations were Hausa, Fulani, Angas, Yoruba, Igbo, Jarawa, Kanuri, Nupe, white men, yellow men and black men coexist.
Arewa is not a crusader nation like Biafra where those who do not practice the state religion will be killed and chased out.
Arewa Republic is not ethnocentric like Odua where if a man does not bear Yoruba name is seen as a half human to be subjected to descrimination and set to be killed by elite sponsored tribal terrorists like Odua or cursed to die in the Lagoon by a tribal chief
That is why we have half-Yoruba man as the Emir of Kano, the biggestst Kingdom in Hausaland. That is why Arewa was led in war during the Civil War by an Angas Christian, Yakubu Gowon.

That is why the xenophobic tribalists of the west and the end time black crusaders of the east hate us and are doing their best to divide us and conquer. Come what may, we shall remain the richest in terms of resources and the largest in terms of population in Africa, Arewa is the heart of Africa. This is why the malevolent envious ones want to see it in chaos. We shall surmout the current troubles and emerge strong. We are the Phoenix that always emerges renewed from the ashes of conflagration.
We have demonstrated our capacity to uphold minority rights despite the constants instigations of the minority by the tribo-religious extremists of the South. We shall in our independent nation secure human rights, religious freedom, minority rights, cultural autonomy and we shall efface the faces of induced terrorists. Let the bakwarward tribalists and neo-crusaders die of envy. It is a quetion of time and men of my vision to take over leadership. It is written and shall it be. #Hausa Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the

southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.

Aboki trying to make sense, try harder.