Tinubu is more influential. Umm, check my profile if you need help with your dissertation, thesis or assignment.

Olakunleyakub:
Shetima nah Yoruba?
Buhari nah Yoruba?
Ganduje and kano delegate nah Yoruba?
Low self-esteem and hatred will not kill you people

You're minding that irredeemable hater?

Idiot.

Is that how they brought you up pig?

For your mouth yoruba and little sense?

Tell me your tribe and how they are doing better than Yoruba both home and disapora

You are a bastard if you refused althe answer adequately.

Asgard73:

Yoruba man and little sense

Shettima polical godson
Ganduje polical ally.. from ajimobi..

Oga do this two people represent t northern interest or ever speak for the north?

Yoruba need North to validate their propaganda

Oga tell Tinubu to contest no excuses

Asgard73:

Normal Yoruba noise

Better than normal IPOBian blackmail wey no dey ever work. Lol.

Asgard73:


Okay..
what happened in 2002/2003.. 99’ Atiku left Pdp and moved to AC.. and was still Vice President of Nigeria.

You know nothing .. just trolling

can you leave your own house for someone you can hold hostage you re a clown
Atiku was disgraced out of PDP, in 2007 nd. 2011, he couldnt defeat obj stooge in pdp primary 2011.
In 2018 Atiku left unceremoniously in APC. Till today he doesn't have any visible political structure apart from moving about with his bag of Dollars

seunmsg:


Instead of wasting your time trying to frustrate the south west, why not use your time and energy to work for an Igbo presidential candidate? Is that not a more sensible approach?

See, Tinubu will contest whether you guys like him or not. If he is edge out by another northerner with the help of Igbo folks, the Yorubas will claim they got betrayed by the north after supporting them in 2015 and 2019. Another round of political unrest like we witnessed from 1993 till 1998 will ensue. At the end of the day, the North will be forced to make another concession to the south west in order to keep the country and south east will lose out again.

So you see, you are not playing this game with your head. The south east will gain absolutely nothing from the anti-Yoruba politics folks like you are pushing for. It will end in tears and we will be here to laugh at you as always.

If you know the average Igbo man you will understand he is a vainglorious, emotional and emptily egotistic creature ready to cut his nose to spite his face.

Which sane or normal person will be destroying his own land and killing his fellow man in the belief he is somehow striking back at Buhari and Fulanis doing that?

Either way, Igbos dedication to playing politics of hate against Yorubas will fail again, as usual, and we will be here to laugh at another round of failure for a people who will never understand that insanity is doing things the same way over and over to expect a different outcome.

Forget it. Nobody knows Tofa before 1993 and besides the dynamics have changed

seunmsg:


Same way they voted Tofa over MKO, right?

kcnwaigbo:

We can only say this after an election between them is conducted in the two States.We also thought Tinubu was influential in Edo until he was roundly beaten.

That Tinubu built library for northerners,gave them free bags of rice does not mean they would vote for them.That he is even friends with Ganduje does not mean he is popular in kano

Now you lost me. How can the individual who rode on the structure of Oshiomhole-Tinubu to power, betrays his political benefactors by buying off some of their followers , claim victory over the people he rode over their back? Little wonder why HE Obaseki is now at loggerheads with his co- travellers and PDP.
It's a pyrrhic victory and doesn't last. I read same people encouraging him to betray Asiwaju and Oshiomhole now lamenting so much that one said if elections were conducted in Edo today, HE Obaseki is more likely to lose because they have gone full circle to know the difference between Oshiomhole and Obaseki. Time will tell. As regards Edo State APC, it's in firm grip of the Oshiomhole- Asiwaju Tinubu camp so HE Obaseki can't get back to APC . Like I stated, 2022 and 2023 is just around the corner. May God spare our lives even beyond 2023.

Who's this deranged igboman always yapping nonsense

Asgard73:
More reason I keep saying....

Tinubu must contest....

No excuses..

No telling us he never said he will contest..

If Apc no give am ticket make he find another party..

he must contest!

ORIENTATION101:
can you leave your own house for someone you can hold hostage you re a clown
Atiku was disgraced out of PDP, in 2007 nd. 2011, he couldnt defeat obj stooge in pdp primary 2011.
In 2018 Atiku left unceremoniously in APC. Till today he doesn't have any visible political structure apart from moving about with his bag of Dollars

Exactly. Atiku who disappears to Dubai for years, after losing an election, to then return at the dawn of another election demanding to be President. Whereas he has been irresponsibly missing from Nigerian political life for the years between the last election he lost and the current one he wishes to contest.

Contrast with Tinubu who has the genuine love and respect of his political peers because he is always in the trenches in Nigeria building structures, people, careers and administrative capacity.

Only IPOBians will be rooting for Atiku because they are saboteurs who are always happy doing the opposite of what can move Nigeria forward by default.

Contest APC primary with who? Umahi? Okorocha? Even if all Igbo dead or alive contest against Tinubu, they'll lose.

Or is it yahaya Bello, Ahmed lawan, or who in the North? U need to be examined

Asgard73:


No!

Things have changed .. Times ain’t same.. Atiku is not Tofa.

.. reason why we’re calling Tinubu to contest... since Yoruba said he’s Nigeria Kingmaker..
and since they believe times are still the same.

hisexcellency34:
Forget it. Nobody knows Tofa before 1993 and besides the dynamics have changed

Stop trying to change the goalpost. You said clearly that the north will always vote for their son and I pointed out a good example of when the north voted against their son. So, it was never about popularity but your clear generalization that the north will always vote for their son irrespective of the opposing candidate.

garfield1:


Tinubu is more influential

Only in the South west.Atiku is more influential in the north ,SE & SS.But both of them should go and rest. Nigerians have suffered enough .We are sick and tired of President that are old and likely to use half of thier administration to fly abroad for medical treatment due to old age while in office.

Igbos hate Yorubas even more than their so called enemy, Fulani.

They'll rather vote a Fulani man than any Yoruba.

Any Yoruba that support Igbo must be a bastarddd.

Let Them remain third class citizen forever

I won't want either of them on any party's ticket but as things stand and going by the strength of the party they both belong to, Tinubu is more influential than Atiku in Nigeria national politics of today.

By the way, what happened to Atiku's influence in the 2014 APC presidential primaries. He was roundly out-influenced by Tinubu and came a distant third. That's the real influence by Tinubu.

In my heart

The North

NaijirianKing:
In my heart, I'm praying that the south fields their champion Tinubu against Atiku. It is that day that the south will learn who is really in control of the electoral process.

The south is still learning.

Lol. You're the one who is learning. You guys are always showing this childish fear of some mythical Northern political prowess that is
never validated by the historical politics of Nigeria.

Buhari, viewed as a "strong man" today, competed several times and lost till Tinubu 'repackaged' him. Buhari did not win a single SW State in 2011 yet won all, bar Ekiti, in 2015.


OBJ singlehandedly installed virtually unknown Yar Adua as his successor and repeated the feat keeping the Northern hawks at bay to ensure GEJ won the 2011 election.

Power is always in the hands of charismatic and influential grassroot movers like Tinubu or a President who knows how to harness and use power like OBJ.

Buhari is no politician and if Tinubu is fit and healthy then my money is on him to defeat the machinations of Buhari, Buni, Malami etal.

Politics is about permanent interests and Tinubu takes care of the permanent interests of his peers very well.

That is what he is famous for and that is what influential 'players' wil be looking at more than any obligation to please an outgoing Buhari who will be yesterday's news the day he leaves Aso Rock.

NaijirianKing:
The North is in a position to run things through true unity and understanding.

The south is divided by sectarian greed by certain sectors. The SW wants the presidency before other regions have even had the VP in this democratic dispensation.

This is why the North is offering the SE the VP position. This shows the North's understanding that politics is not about cutting your brother, but embracing all sides. Until the south learns politics of balance, they will never win a presidential race again.

If lying to yourself makes you feel good, so be it. However, some of us will be here to put issues in the right and proper perspectives without sentiments and emotions.

How many south east politician are currently canvassing for support to get the presidential ticket of APC and PDP that the south west is mounting a serious social media campaign against? Just mention one person.

So, if south east politicians are not making any effort to get the presidential ticket of any of the two political parties, the south west should simply fold their hands and not contest? Is the south west stopping the south east from contesting?

Outside the South West, Tinubu is nobody

Asgard73:


Next!

your opinion is yours but it may not be the reality of life.

The fact is that

PDP

shosky1794:
I won't want either of them on any party's ticket but as things stand and going by the strength of the party they both belong to, Tinubu is more influential than Atiku in Nigeria national politics of today.

By the way, what happened to Atiku's influence in the 2014 APC presidential primaries. He was roundly out-influenced by Tinubu and came a distant third. That's the real influence by Tinubu.

Ignorant fellows. This exactly what CPC want Acn group to think in 2014. What is playing out today?

FreeStuffsNG:

Now you lost me. How can the individual who rode on the structure of Oshiomhole-Tinubu to power, betrays his political benefactors by buying off some of their followers , claim victory over the people he rode over their back? Little wonder why HE Obaseki is now at loggerheads with his co- travellers and PDP.
It's a pyrrhic victory and doesn't last. I read same people encouraging him to betray Asiwaju and Oshiomhole now lamenting so much that one said if elections were conducted in Edo today, HE Obaseki is more likely to lose because they have gone full circle to know the difference between Oshiomhole and Obaseki. Time will tell. As regards Edo State APC, it's in firm grip of the Oshiomhole- Asiwaju Tinubu camp so HE Obaseki can't get back to APC . Like I stated, 2022 and 2023 is just around the corner. May God spare our lives even beyond 2023.

It still doesn't change the fact that Tinubu was roundly beaten in Edo State

NaijirianKing:
PDP is prepared to offer the NC/NE the presidency, 2 regions that have never held such a position. I personally think the NC should be given the ticket for national unity, however the internal workings will reveal how things go as time moves forward. Moreover, the SE will be given the VP ticket, this is true inclusion. What is the better offer for the SE or NC/NE? The answer is nothing.

APC wants to give a region that will have 16 years as President/VP the ticket again before others in the south. This will spell doom for APC as NW/NE/NC + SE/SS equals victory. The SW is politically isolated. The only way to beat the North is for APC to offer the ticket to the NC/NE before PDP does.

Politics is about uniting interests of various parties, not selfish ambition of party members.

Don't mind them. The man that brought them here is dying of constant worry of the woe that will befall him in 2023. Most of his puppet still thinks this is a card. The southern governors forum failure will tell them, nobody is ready to partner with a traitor. We would only accept what will benefit our region. Yourouba cant demand for resource management but see all of them supporting Wike with his Vat Nonsense. Since we know how to behave like coward in the South. Let's know who sophisticated pass

OneTemplate:


You are just being emotional like the average IPOBian. That is why you people are tragic at national politics. You always will be losers as long as you continue your politics of sentiments.

Say what you will but Yorubas had expectation when they merged the powerful ACN with CPC to form APC.

ACN was totally dominant in the SW and contributed 4 sitting governors, many federal Senators and reps to the merger. More than even CPC.

SS contribution was valuable and Amaechi is an APC hero. Whereas SE contribution was nil. Zilch. Zero. In fact you IPOBians only insulted and demonized APC publicly while doing your best to sabotage the Party.

Shows you IPOBians are ingrates with a sinister nature given you now feel you should reap where you have not sown while trying to blackmail Yorubas who always had a plan and worked to achieve it while you lot were busy playing politics of hate 24/7.

Yorubas are not ceding APC slot to anyone. We deserve it in the universal spirit of honorable men getting out what they put in. Go and battle for the PDP ticket if dem born una well. Haters and cowards.

Shioor bros!! You don revise history just Na Naa? I thought efulefu Rochas Okorocha was a founding member and sitting Governor when APC was formed?

If people should indeed reap from APC because of contribution to party then we should be talking about the NE that have consistently given the party the millions of votes to retain the presidency and not even the SW!! So allow the NE to reap the fruit of their labour

Tinubu has more people in power today than Atiku. See the list of people who visited him in London

Okwyjesus:


Atiku will win Tinubu if the two come out finals in 2023.

North will vote Atiku including SE/SW.
North can't vote Tinubu ahead of Atiku

Tinubu will defeat Atiku in a presidential election in this current political climate.

Speak to real Northerners and gauge the popularity of Bola Tinubu and come back here to give us the result.

If Atiku will win the North, it will not be with a figure that will show too much difference. Remember the North is three zone and the NW got a lot of Tinubu allies.

seunmsg:


Of course you are too young to understand what played out between 1993 and 1998 and why the 1999 election was between Obasanjo and Falae. It did not just happened, we played our cards to get to that point and we are on it again while you guys are clowning all around without direction.

I don't remember sharing my age with you.How did you conclude I was a kid by 1993-1998?

LegendHero:


Tinubu will defeat Atiku in a presidential election in this current political climate.

Speak to real Northerners and gauge the popularity of Bola Tinubu and come back here to give us the result.

If Atiku will win the North, it will not be with a figure that will show too much difference. Remember the North is three zone and the NW got a lot of Tinubu allies.

Lol speak to real Northerners? So we have unreal northerners? Even if such a contest was to hold the damage to Tinubu will come from the SS/SE.The North will only come with fuel to add to the already burning fire.

As someone said earlier on this thread the yorubas are politically isolated,and the earlier you knew that the better for you

bolaayenimo:
Tinubu has more people in power today than Atiku. See the list of people who visited him in London