kcnwaigbo:

Lol speak to real Northerners? So we have unreal northerners? Even if such a contest was to hold the damage to Tinubu will come from the SS/SE.The North will only come with fuel to add to the already burning fire.

As someone said earlier on this thread the yorubas are politically isolated,and the earlier you knew that the better for you

Lol which of the SS? Even Buhari got over like 35% in the SS with his abysmal performance and the SE votes can’t even be up to Oyo state own when the damage IPOB have done become evident in 2023.

Stop lumping SE and SS. They have their identity and you have yours as SE. Stop hiding under minority tribes like a coward!

Yes real Northerners and not Nairaland where anyone can masquerade as anything. Just frequent clubhouse room well and you will see that almost 95% of the Northerners speaking on political issue are pro-Tinubu. They don’t even rate Atiku.

Also go on Twitter and most of those Arewa feeds, you will see that they like Asiwaju so much sometimes even more than fellow Yorubas.

Lastly, I know election is about the common man off social media and Tinubu just need to use his comrades and long time allies in the North with the moneybag to effect changes.

When MKO was contesting against Tofa, people said more than this that the North won’t vote him and bla bla bla and yet he defeated Tofa in his home state of Kano and the North at large.

LegendHero:


Lol which of the SS? Even Buhari got over like 35% in the SS with his abysmal performance and the SE votes can’t even be up to Oyo state own when the damage IPOB have done become evident in 2023.

Stop lumping SE and SS. They have their identity and you have yours as SE. Stop hiding under minority tribes like a coward!

Yes real Northerners and not Nairaland where anyone can masquerade as anything. Just frequent clubhouse room well and you will see that almost 95% of the Northerners speaking on political issue are pro-Tinubu. They don’t even rate Atiku.

Also go on Twitter and most of those Arewa feeds, you will see that they like Asiwaju so much sometimes even more than fellow Yorubas.

Lastly, I know election is about the common man off social media and Tinubu just need to use his comrades and long time allies in the North with the moneybag to effect changes.

When MKO was contesting against Tofa, people said more than this that the North won’t vote him and bla bla bla and yet he defeated Tofa in his home state of Kano and the North at large.

Okay now go and ask Tinubu to contest,he will win

BTW the SS/SE are patiently waiting to pay back someone in his own coin.

NaijirianKing:
PDP is prepared to offer the NC/NE the presidency, 2 regions that have never held such a position. I personally think the NC should be given the ticket for national unity, however the internal workings will reveal how things go as time moves forward. Moreover, the SE will be given the VP ticket, this is true inclusion. What is the better offer for the SE or NC/NE? The answer is nothing.

APC wants to give a region that will have 16 years as President/VP the ticket again before others in the south. This will spell doom for APC as NW/NE/NC + SE/SS equals victory. The SW is politically isolated. The only way to beat the North is for APC to offer the ticket to the NC/NE before PDP does.

Politics is about uniting interests of various parties, not selfish ambition of party members.

As expected, you ignored the question and started talking about what i did not ask you. You claimed that the south is divided by secular interest because the south west want the presidency ahead of others in the region and i ask you to mention just one potential candidate from the south east that the south west is undermining. Let me ask you again, how exactly is the south west dividing southern's united quest for the presidency when the south east have not put anybody forward to vie for the tickets of PDP and APC? If south east have no candidates to put forward, should the south west refuse to contest because south east have no candidates?

See, if your argument is that south east want to sabotage the southern presidency simply because they have no candidate to present and also that they stand a good chance of producing the VP to a northern president, i won't waste my time to argue with you because the SE have simply taken a decision in its overall interest. However, claiming that secular interest from the south west is what is dividing the south is what I will disagree with. It is a lie that will not stand.

kcnwaigbo:

Lol Kano will vote for Tinubu over Atiku ?? una yorubas get mind I swear.The way you carry out your analysis while assuming other regions are zombies amazes me

Go and check Abiola election. He defeated Tofa in Kano which is Tofa home state.

Currently, Ganduje is Tinubu ally and the bond they share is strong. Tinubu helped him win his re-election and even Kwakwanso caucus blamed Asiwaju in that election.

Ganduje daughter got married to Ajimobi a Tinubu man, RIP to him. Few days ago Ganduje visited Tinubu in London and the Kano structure is in place.

Tinubu will defeat Atiku in Kano under the current climate. Atiku don’t have the structure and the only one that can upset the balance is Kwakwanso and I’m sure APC would have signed him before then.

kcnwaigbo:

Okay now go and ask Tinubu to contest,he will win

BTW the SS/SE are patiently waiting to pay back someone in his own coin.

Again nothing like SS/SE.

Speak for the SE with your inconsequential 5% votes. I doubt it’s even up to that anymore coz IPOB keep reducing the percentage.

gidgiddy:
Outside the South West, Tinubu is nobody

Lol. Leader of IPOB on Nairaland has spoken. If Tinubu is "nobody" outside the SW then point to a single Southern politician with more clout than Tinubu outside the entire South.

Putting that aside a minute, and showing you Igbos will never be politically intelligent, what was Buhari outside the North and especially in the SW where he was largely unelectable and did not win a single State in the region when he contested in 2011?

Lo and behold, with Tinubu on his side, Buhari won all the 4 APC - controlled States in the SW because it was in Tinubu's permanent political and administrative interest to help Buhari win.

Same way Tinubu has the loyalty, clout and appeal to get influential and savvy Northerners working for his ambition in their region because of their personal permanent interest. It is about people keying into a project and working for it. Something you Igbos can never understand because of your hateful disposition.

Igbo mumuism will once again be exposed, to ridicule, in 2023. Mark it down. Igbo loss and misery is very predictable because you people have no reverse gear, are completely sentimental, and are like lemmings always destined to fall off a cliff.

ObalaEmma:

Don't mind them. The man that brought them here is dying of constant worry of the woe that will befall him in 2023. Most of his puppet still thinks this is a card. The southern governors forum failure will tell them, nobody is ready to partner with a traitor. We would only accept what will benefit our region. Yourouba cant demand for resource management but see all of them supporting Wike with his Vat Nonsense. Since we know how to behave like coward in the South. Let's know who sophisticated pass

The governor explained: “The issue of VAT did not start from Rivers State alone. It started in Lagos State when Lagos State challenged it in Supreme Court. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court said you (Lagos) shouldn’t have sued the Federal Government. All you would have done was to sue the agency. ” Governor Wike.

https://www.nairaland.com/6763823/wike-kicks-fg-excludes-rivers

Read up on issues before rushing to post nonsense on social media.

LegendHero:


Go and check Abiola election. He defeated Tofa in Kano which is Tofa home state.

Currently, Ganduje is Tinubu ally and the bond they share is strong. Tinubu helped him win his re-election and even Kwakwanso caucus blamed Asiwaju in that election.

Ganduje daughter got married to Ajimobi a Tinubu man, RIP to him. Few days ago Ganduje visited Tinubu in London and the Kano structure is in place.

Tinubu will defeat Atiku in Kano under the current climate. Atiku don’t have the structure and the only one that can upset the balance is Kwakwanso and I’m sure APC would have signed him before then.

You guys are plain funny!! So because Ganduje's daughter got married to Ajimobi's son is one of the reasons you are optimistic Tinubu will win in Kano? Are you fucking kidding me?

kcnwaigbo:

I don't remember sharing my age with you.How did you conclude I was a kid by 1993-1998?

It is obvious from your comments. Your reasoning is juvenile.

LegendHero:


Again nothing like SS/SE.

Speak for the SE with your inconsequential 5% votes. I doubt it’s even up to that anymore coz IPOB keep reducing the percentage.

We shall know for sure by the end of 2023 who belongs to 5% and 97%.

The disgrace Tinubu suffered in the last Edo election will be nothing compared to what he will suffer in the entire South-south region come 2023.Greedy folks ,you think you are the only region in the south suited for the presidency.

I have come to realise that the very reason Tinubu helped to truncate GEJ's re-election was for his own personal ambition.Well he should come and become president let's
See.

seunmsg:


It is obvious from your comments. Your reasoning is juvenile.

You mean you have a childish understanding?

kcnwaigbo:

You mean you have a childish understanding?

In as much as your comments are childish, the understanding will also be childish. I can't help you in that regard.

omoharry:
Only in the South west.Atiku is more influential in the north ,SE & SS.But both of them should go and rest. Nigerians have suffered enough .We are sick and tired of President that are old and likely to use half of thier administration to fly abroad for medical treatment due to old age while in office.

That is a lie.tinubu is more influential than atiku evetywhere

seunmsg:


And that is why he's not taking any chances again. He underrated Atiku in 2019 and he has learnt from that mistake. Without Wike's support, Atiku can't even get PDP's ticket in 2023 so where is his influence? There is no president in PDP and still, Atiku can't keep his loyal National Chairman in office till December when his tenure expires and you're calling him influential. You guys joke too much i swear.

Is it Tinubu that has completely lost control of APC since Buni took over that is influential? How come Tinubu was not able to save Oshiomhole and stop Malami from taking over the party from him.

The way I see it will take a miracle for Tinubu to even pick up the APC ticket under the current APC structure let alone contesting in the main elections

LegendHero:


Tinubu will defeat Atiku in a presidential election in this current political climate.

Speak to real Northerners and gauge the popularity of Bola Tinubu and come back here to give us the result.

If Atiku will win the North, it will not be with a figure that will show too much difference. Remember the North is three zone and the NW got a lot of Tinubu allies.

Bro! Buhari's popularity is not equal to Tinubu's popularity. APC can't be a guarantee for Tinubu's acceptance up north.

LegendHero:


Go and check Abiola election. He defeated Tofa in Kano which is Tofa home state.

Currently, Ganduje is Tinubu ally and the bond they share is strong. Tinubu helped him win his re-election and even Kwakwanso caucus blamed Asiwaju in that election.

Ganduje daughter got married to Ajimobi a Tinubu man, RIP to him. Few days ago Ganduje visited Tinubu in London and the Kano structure is in place.

Tinubu will defeat Atiku in Kano under the current climate. Atiku don’t have the structure and the only one that can upset the balance is Kwakwanso and I’m sure APC would have signed him before then.

Bro, Igbos are just blindly emotional and hateful. Do they think all Northern leaders are happy or comfortable with what Buhari, Buni, Malami etal are doing or the animosity they are attracting to the North and for Northerners?

Only yesterday Nasarawa Governor boldly backed Osinbajo for 2023 not Atiku or any other Northerner.

Many Northern leaders who are core Party and nationalist politicians ( that Buhari, Buni, Malami etal are not) are only respecting the Presidency publicly.

They will wait till their leanings cannot be punished, eg at the APC primaries, to take actions that promotes their permanent interest since proper politicians know there will be life beyond Buhari who will be done in 2023.

You may not need to be brilliant to be a successful politician in Nigeria but you must be calculative.

There are still many sensible Northerners who anticipate life beyond PMB and his regime. Winning 2023 begins at Party primaries.

An outgoing President is particularly weak because he cannot really promise any 'carrots', such as ministerial position, and can only use EFCC to bully delegates. This is where Tinubu comes into his own, as a candidate or as a 'wingman' for another like Osinbajo.

Tinubu is someone trusted as able to deliver on pledges and the permanent interest of many who will already be looking beyond what Buhari wants or pleasing him by July next year. Only Igbos won't accept this appeal of Tinubu because they are permanent dwellers of Hateville.

Will the choice of the Buhari, Buni, Malami etal camp be able to defeat the choice of the Tinubu camp at the APC Primaries? , 2022-2023 will be interesting sha and I remain an avid learner

Okwyjesus:


Bro! Buhari's popularity is not equal to Tinubu's popularity. APC can't be a guarantee for Tinubu's acceptance up north.

Even Buhari's popularity has waned seriously in the North. We are in a new dawn with new dynamics and realities influencing people's thinking.

The North will not vote as clannishly as you Igbos are touting they will.

Certainly not if many of their influential men like Ganduje, El Rufai, Zulum etal take it upon themselves to work dedicatedly for a Southern APC candidate against Atiku, Tambuwal etal in the spirit of re-establishing good regional relationship and especially to heal rifts beyond the ultra-divisive years of Buhari.

OneTemplate:


Bro, Igbos are just blindly emotional and hateful. Do they think all Northern leaders are happy or comfortable with what Buhari, Buni, Malami etal are doing or the animosity they are attracting to the North and for Northerners?

Only yesterday Nasarawa Governor boldly backed Osinbajo for 2023 not Atiku or any other Northerner.

Many Northern leaders who are core Party and nationalist politicians ( that Buhari, Buni, Malami etal are not) are only respecting the Presidency publicly.

They will wait till their leanings cannot be punished, eg at the APC primaries, to take actions that promotes their permanent interest since proper politicians know there will be life beyond Buhari who will be done in 2023.

You may not need to be brilliant to be a successful politician in Nigeria but you must be calculative.

There are still many sensible Northerners who anticipate life beyond PMB and his regime. Winning 2023 begins at Party primaries.

An outgoing President is particularly weak because he cannot really promise any 'carrots', such as ministerial position, and can only use EFCC to bully delegates. This is where Tinubu comes into his own, as a candidate or as a 'wingman' for another like Osinbajo.

Tinubu is someone trusted as able to deliver on pledges and the permanent interest of many who will already be looking beyond what Buhari wants or pleasing him by July next year. Only Igbos won't accept this appeal of Tinubu because they are permanent dwellers of Hateville.

Will the choice of the Buhari, Buni, Malami etal camp be able to defeat the choice of the Tinubu camp at the APC Primaries? , 2022-2023 will be interesting sha and I remain an avid learner

Exactly bro. Perfect submission.

Sorry, who are the South South you're forcing into your sole opinion? Who are they please? Let Igbos, the 5%er live with their hate. We don't need their vote.

Stop dragging South South to u people's madness

kcnwaigbo:

Okay now go and ask Tinubu to contest,he will win

BTW the SS/SE are patiently waiting to pay back someone in his own coin.

Tinubu by far, Tinubu is nex after buhari

For your info about Edo election, go and ask again, the election was won with propaganda.

Obaseki played his card well by making himself seem weaken and subjugated by Oshiomhole.
Obaseki was voted out of pity. Obaseki made people see the election between himself and Oshiomhole.

kcnwaigbo:

We shall know for sure by the end of 2023 who belongs to 5% and 97%.

The disgrace Tinubu suffered in the last Edo election will be nothing compared to what he will suffer in the entire South-south region come 2023.Greedy folks ,you think you are the only region in the south suited for the presidency.

I have come to realise that the very reason Tinubu helped to truncate GEJ's re-election was for his own personal ambition.Well he should come and become president let's
See.

ObalaEmma:

Ignorant fellows. This exactly what CPC want Acn group to think in 2014. What is playing out today?

The ignorant one here is definitely you. The CPC group had zero influence on the party in 2014. Left to them, Buhari would be eating gworo in Katsina in 2015. Even Buhari knew he had no chance in securing the party ticket without the major influence of a person like Tinubu.

kcnwaigbo:

Is it Tinubu that has completely lost control of APC since Buni took over that is influential? How come Tinubu was not able to save Oshiomhole and stop Malami from taking over the party from him.

The way I see it will take a miracle for Tinubu to even pick up the APC ticket under the current APC structure let alone contesting in the main elections

If you know about real politics then you won't say Tinubu has lost control of the party. The real politics in APC is going on underground. When it's time for real politics then you will know that people like Malani do not have real influence in the party. Just wait and watch.

shosky1794:


If you know about real politics then you won't say Tinubu has lost control of the party. The real politics in APC is going on underground. When it's time for real politics then you will know that people like Malani do not have real influence in the party. Just wait and watch.

Oga Tinubu has lost control of the party.The final nail in his coffin was the last registration exercise the party did.Thats when they now finished him kpatakpata

InHeaven:
For your info about Edo election, go and ask again, the election was won with propaganda.

Obaseki played his card well by making himself seem weaken and subjugated by Oshiomhole.
Obaseki was voted out of pity. Obaseki made people see the election between himself and Oshiomhole.

Whatever strategy was used the fact remains that Tinubu was politically decimated in the elections

InHeaven:
Sorry, who are the South South you're forcing into your sole opinion? Who are they please? Let Igbos, the 5%er live with their hate. We don't need their vote.

Stop dragging South South to u people's madness

Oga Tinubu would definitely Lose in the SS,this is a no brainer

kcnwaigbo:

Oga Tinubu has lost control of the party.The final nail in his coffin was the last registration exercise the party did.Thats when they now finished him kpatakpata

Lol. You know little about National politics. I won't say more

Even when buhari's son was getting married, Atiku was honored as the groom's father

nairavsdollars:
Atiku Abubakar: Former Vice-President, PDP Presidential candidate in the 2019 elections

Asiwaju Bola Tinubu: Former Lagos state governor and APC national leader.

Who is more influential among the two and can win the presidential election if the contest comes down to both?

Asgard73:


No!

Things have changed .. Times ain’t same.. Atiku is not Tofa.

.. reason why we’re calling Tinubu to contest... since Yoruba said he’s Nigeria Kingmaker..
and since they believe times are still the same.

hey boy, are you so jobless? You have quoted 95 percent of the monikers here, what's the problem?

kcnwaigbo:

You guys are plain funny!! So because Ganduje's daughter got married to Ajimobi's son is one of the reasons you are optimistic Tinubu will win in Kano? Are you fucking kidding me?

you are the funny one here, because of all the point that man made its only the marriage part you were able to see? Abi you no dey see well?

Funny enough, Tinubu's name was not even mentioned throughout the electioneering processes.

Suit yourself then

kcnwaigbo:

Whatever strategy was used the fact remains that Tinubu was politically decimated in the elections

You're even sounding affirmative

kcnwaigbo:

Oga Tinubu would definitely Lose in the SS,this is a no brainer