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Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:04am On Oct 26, 2021
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You are just spewing conspiracy theories. I am O+ And i donated blood to my friends mom not too long ago..
That's what you people don't know, why not do a follow up on someone who has taken blood transfusion and keep them on constant watch for about five years then come back and tell us the story? smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 6:53am On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

That's what you people don't know, why not do a follow up on someone who has taken blood transfusion and keep them on constant watch for about five years then come back and tell us the story? smiley
confirmation bias again.... normally people who take blood transfusion already have an illness so the probability that things get worse or they die within five is quite high...
even for a normal human being the probability that you will die or become sick in the next five years is very high.... undecided
or are you doubting that you cannot die in the next five years....

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Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44am On Oct 26, 2021
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confirmation bias again.... normally people who take blood transfusion already have an illness so the probability that things get worse or they die within five is quite high...
even for a normal human being the probability that you will die or become sick in the next five years is very high.... undecided
or are you doubting that you cannot die in the next five years....

It's not about if they'll die but the fact that the one who designed the formation of blood cells said we mustn't mix it is enough to tell you that whoever goes for a blood transfusion is already on a suicide mission!
So stop accusing people who chose not to follow you on some uncertain path because blood transfusion doesn't guarantee a long life! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 12:43pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


It's not about if they'll die but the fact that the one who designed the formation of blood cells said we mustn't mix it is enough to tell you that whoever goes for a blood transfusion is already on a suicide mission!
So stop accusing people who chose not to follow you on some uncertain path because blood transfusion doesn't guarantee a long life! smiley
Common stop playing dumb... The reason why we do blood transfusion is not majorly to give people long life but to assist people in surviving when blood is lost due to injuries, accidents and illness... Due to this process lots of lives have been saved...
lets assume you get involved in an accident, and you end up losing so much blood and you are just at the brink of death. Now would you rather opt. for a blood transfusion or you would watch yourself die...
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:49pm On Oct 26, 2021
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Common stop playing dumb... The reason why we do blood transfusion is not majorly to give people long life but to assist people in surviving when blood is lost due to injuries, accidents and illness... Due to this process lots of lives have been saved...
lets assume you get involved in an accident, and you end up losing so much blood and you are just at the brink of death. Now would you rather opt. for a blood transfusion or you would watch yourself die...

Preparation is the watchword of God's people, we have what is called alternative treatment so anything that happens we go for that not a blood transfusion! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 1:08pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Preparation is the watchword of God's people, we have what is called alternative treatment so anything that happens we go for that not a blood transfusion! smiley
Please be brief and in a simple way explain which alternative treatment you mean and show how it can help you regain lost blood when involved in an accident.... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:27pm On Oct 26, 2021
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Please be brief and in a simple way explain which alternative treatment you mean and show how it can help you regain lost blood when involved in an accident.... undecided
Educate yourself by seeing a health professional! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 2:31pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Educate yourself by seeing a health professional! smiley
Just like I expected you couldn't explain yourself.... . undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Oct 26, 2021
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Just like I expected you couldn't explain yourself.... . undecided
So you expected me to start telling you what to do when you can just walk up to health professionals regarding what you feels so important to you?
Well i've played my part, you yourself agreed that there is always complications after blood transfusions so talk to health officials and stop being naive. I don't expect atheists like you who so much believe in research to be so dependent on what a religionist will say when you can speak with certified health professionals! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 2:55pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

So you expected me to start telling you what to do when you can just walk up to health professionals regarding what you feels so important to you?
Well i've played my part, you yourself agreed that there is always complications after blood transfusions so talk to health officials and stop being naive. I don't expect atheists like you who so much believe in research to be so dependent on what a religionist will say when you can speak with certified health professionals! smiley
I just want you to explain yourself more to be sure you know what you are saying.... undecided

okay if you can't explain... Just mention 2(two) alternative methods to blood transfusion that you know....
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:09pm On Oct 26, 2021
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I just want you to explain yourself more to be sure you know what you are saying.... undecided
okay if you can't explain... Just mention 2(two) alternative methods to blood transfusion that you know....
Guy you're just full of pride over nothing!

Once you mention alternative treatment health professionals will know you're informed not just a novice with whom they can prefer any kind of treatment. cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 3:18pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Guy you're just full of pride over nothing!

Once you mention alternative treatment health professionals will know you're informed not just a novice with whom they can prefer any kind of treatment. cheesy
these alternative treatments don't they have names...
okay I live in a village I don't have access to health proffessionals can you please help me get more info on these alternative treatments.... cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Oct 26, 2021
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these alternative treatments don't they have names...
okay I live in a village I don't have access to health proffessionals can you please help me get more info on these alternative treatments.... cheesy

In villages?
Good! ask herbalists for herbs that can boost the blood level! cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 3:39pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


In villages?
Good! ask herbalists for herbs that can boost the blood level! cheesy
This is an emergency a patient (MaxInDHouse) just got involved in fatal accident, he has lost so much blood through bleeding and is currently at the brink of death. He needs urgent treatment ..... Let's stop the bleeding and then give him some blood to regain the ones he lost...
[MaxInDHouse with the little strenght he has left whispers NO! I don't need blood transfusion I am a bloody J.witness I want alternative treatments]
The doctor is confused and wants MaxInDHouse to explain more on this alternative treatments... MaxInDHouse can you please explain to our doctor the alternative treatments you want him to administer in this period of emergency .... Please make it brief.... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:48pm On Oct 26, 2021
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This is an emergency a patient (MaxInDHouse) just got involved in fatal accident, he has lost so much blood through bleeding and is currently at the brink of death. He needs urgent treatment ..... Let's stop the bleeding and then give him some blood to regain the ones he lost...
[MaxInDHouse with the little strenght he has left whispers NO! I don't need blood transfusion I am a bloody J.witness I want alternative treatments]
The doctor is confused and wants MaxInDHouse to explain more on this alternative treatments... MaxInDHouse can you please explain to our doctor the alternative treatments you want him to administer in this period of emergency .... Please make it brief.... undecided

Keep fooling yourself! cheesy

Even when a JW can't say a word we already have a card on us that speaks for us regarding non-blood treatment. The doctor will loose his license if he/she should ignore our choice of treatment! wink
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 3:53pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Keep fooling yourself! cheesy

Even when a JW can't say a word we already have a card on us that speaks for us regarding non-blood treatment. The doctor will loose his license if he/she should ignore our choice of treatment! wink
grin
So what should the doctor do to save MaxInDHouse....
Please this is emergency make it brief.... cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04pm On Oct 26, 2021
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grin
So what should the doctor do to save MaxInDHouse....
Please this is emergency make it brief.... cheesy
Alternative treatment without the use of blood!
You'll notice that we aren't saying we don't want to be treated but we want a blood free type of treatment. So a professional in that field should know what to do, in fact there are more awareness about non-blood treatment today. It's just that many people hate Jehovah's Witnesses so they want to create unnecessarily noise about it! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 7:09pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Alternative treatment without the use of blood!
You'll notice that we aren't saying we don't want to be treated but we want a blood free type of treatment. So a professional in that field should know what to do, in fact there are more awareness about non-blood treatment today. It's just that many people hate Jehovah's Witnesses so they want to create unnecessarily noise about it! smiley
I know of the non-blood treatment but right here in Nigeria we don't have much access to such technology that's why i said i live in a village.... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Oct 26, 2021
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I know of the non-blood treatment but right here in Nigeria we don't have much access to such technology that's why i said i live in a village.... undecided
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, but you have forgotten that JWs are one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers who will make sure that whatever good that's enjoyed by members in advance countries is available for in Africa for the benefit of our brothers.
For your information while Churchgoers are still contemplating vaccination JWs globally are rushing to make sure that all our members gets vaccinated before we resume our meetings. And we've all been informed about the best vaccination available! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 8:25pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, but you have forgotten that JWs are one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers who will make sure that whatever good that's enjoyed by members in advance countries is available for in Africa for the benefit of our brothers.
For your information while Churchgoers are still contemplating vaccination JWs globally are rushing to make sure that all our members gets vaccinated before we resume our meetings. And we've all been informed about the best vaccination available! smiley
majority of these hospitals in Nigeria are not well equiped with technology (apart from private owned) refusing blood transfusion would be tantamount to suicide.... cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Oct 26, 2021
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majority of these hospitals in Nigeria are not well equiped with technology (apart from private owned) refusing blood transfusion would be tantamount to suicide.... cheesy
Well whatever you call it we are tough people who always go for what we want not just what the world present to us! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 9:25pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Well whatever you call it we are tough people who always go for what we want not just what the world present to us! smiley
tough people who always go for what they want....embarassed

and here you are slaves to what you want... undecided
you are human and you will always have desires and those desires most times you can't control....
we are all slaves... Slaves to our desires...
are you truely free....
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45pm On Oct 26, 2021
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tough people who always go for what they want....embarassed
and here you are slaves to what you want... undecided
you are human and you will always have desires and those desires most times you can't control....
we are all slaves... Slaves to our desires...
are you truely free....

Freedom is about making choices not following the crowd, we learn what is right and we stand up for it no matter what the world say we stand up for what we know is right.
As for desires there are right desires as well as wrong desires, a conqueror will always fight back to overcome wrong desires not just give in to it. That's what freedom is all about! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 9:57pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Freedom is about making choices not following the crowd, we learn what is right and we stand up for it no matter what the world say we stand up for what we know is right.
As for desires there are right desires as well as wrong desires, a conqueror will always fight back to overcome wrong desires not just give in to it. That's what freedom is all about! smiley
freedom is all about making choices...
but in life your choices are limited... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by haddeylium(m): 11:56pm On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

So you expected me to start telling you what to do when you can just walk up to health professionals regarding what you feels so important to you?
Well i've played my part, you yourself agreed that there is always complications after blood transfusions so talk to health officials and stop being naive. I don't expect atheists like you who so much believe in research to be so dependent on what a religionist will say when you can speak with certified health professionals! smiley

Actually, we someone got into accident and lose too much blood. What's important is how to increase the volume of the fluid in the body. There are several bloodless procedures that are used and are more effective than blood transfusions with high risk of complications.

Mere searching 'Alternative to blood transfusions' will give you the answers you need. They're are so many of them and more preferable than the former
Albumin (Protein found in plasma),Streptokinase (De-clotting medication used for heart attacks), Erythropoietin or EPO (used to stimulate production of RBC,s),Immune globulins (Proteins found in the body),RhoGam (Proteins given to resolve RH factor incompatibles).


Here are some good references to use to show that Blood transfusions are dangerous.

Question #1 How many die because of a Blood Transfusion?
https://www.healthline.com/health/transfusion-reaction-hemolytic#causes

Transfusions kill patient
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/transfusions-kill-patients-say-doctors-1070012.html


Should Anyone Be Given a Blood Transfusion?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/should-anyone-be-given-a-blood-transfusion

Management of patients who refuse blood transfusion
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4260316/
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:48am On Oct 27, 2021
An atheist doesn't need all these explanation because all they want to say is "there is no God" so no matter how much you know they just feel you're being intimidated not really about knowledge. That's why i keep telling him to go and make his own research, and from the look of things it's obvious he knows what i'm saying he just finds it very strange that religionists knew so much about human health!
However thanks brother for the contribution! smiley

haddeylium:


Actually, we someone got into accident and lose too much blood. What's important is how to increase the volume of the fluid in the body. There are several bloodless procedures that are used and are more effective than blood transfusions with high risk of complications.

Mere searching 'Alternative to blood transfusions' will give you the answers you need. They're are so many of them and more preferable than the former
Albumin (Protein found in plasma),Streptokinase (De-clotting medication used for heart attacks), Erythropoietin or EPO (used to stimulate production of RBC,s),Immune globulins (Proteins found in the body),RhoGam (Proteins given to resolve RH factor incompatibles).


Here are some good references to use to show that Blood transfusions are dangerous.

Question #1 How many die because of a Blood Transfusion?
https://www.healthline.com/health/transfusion-reaction-hemolytic#causes

Transfusions kill patient
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/transfusions-kill-patients-say-doctors-1070012.html


Should Anyone Be Given a Blood Transfusion?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/should-anyone-be-given-a-blood-transfusion

Management of patients who refuse blood transfusion
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4260316/
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:51am On Oct 27, 2021
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freedom is all about making choices...
but in life your choices are limited... undecided
You really amuses me when you talk about limited choices because in reality i've educated you about choices here, you just feel so bad that a believer can be smarter than you despite all you think you know! cheesy
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 6:44am On Oct 27, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

You really amuses me when you talk about limited choices because in reality i've educated you about choices here, you just feel so bad that a believer can be smarter than you despite all you think you know! cheesy
"He who claims to know everything never learns anything"..... undecided


They are things a man can do and things a man cannot do....
They are things we control and they are things we can't control....
you did'nt choose where you were born....
you did'nt choose your parents....
you did'nt choose your gender....
you did'nt choose your height....
you did'nt choose your relatives...
you did'nt choose your birthday...
you can't choose when to die (or maybe suicide)
The fact is majority of the things that happen in life are not within your control and you only get to pick the choices you are given.... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04am On Oct 27, 2021
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"He who claims to know everything never learns anything"..... undecided
They are things a man can do and things a man cannot do....
They are things we control and they are things we can't control....
you did'nt choose where you were born....
you did'nt choose your parents....
you did'nt choose your gender....
you did'nt choose your height....
you did'nt choose your relatives...
you did'nt choose your birthday...
you can't choose when to die (or maybe suicide)
The fact is majority of the things that happen in life are not within your control and you only get to pick the choices you are given.... undecided
Choices comes to mind when you're alive and sound in mind, a dead man or one not yet born can't make choices so stop deceiving yourself smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 8:13am On Oct 27, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Choices comes to mind when you're alive and sound in mind, a dead man or one not yet born can't make choices so stop deceiving yourself smiley
Even when you are alive you still don't have all the choices to make.... undecided
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Oct 27, 2021
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Even when you are alive you still don't have all the choices to make.... undecided
Choice is all about what is available! smiley
Re: [Misconception] The Church of satan Does Not Really Worship Satan... by XXXXTENTACION: 12:38pm On Oct 27, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Choice is all about what is available! smiley
If choice is all about what is available... Then that means our choices are limited.... Am I right

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