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aribisala0:

over 90% in Lagos and Abuja

Do you have a source for this claim or is it powered by high dose akpu? Hyperakpunemia?
Where is the source for the assumption that PAYE is from FG workers?


Please explain how additional states would mean more IGR for SE?

Why do the non-Lagos FIVE states still generate more?

How come SS with 6 states generates more than NW with 7

Logic has travelled far from you

You must be an otondo to be asking this sort of dumb question.

Every state in Nigeria recieves billions of naira every month from federal allocations. Out of it, all civil servants in that state will PAYE will be deducted from all their salaries, same with contractors that execute projects. Remember that PAYE forms bulk of the IGR of most states in Nigeria! Are you now getting the point?

If NW has only 5 states instead of 7, its IGR would have been much lower than it currently is. On the other hand, if SE has 6 or 7 states, its IGR as a region would be much higher than it is currently.

helinues:


Beautiful Bunkum

More like painment bro. The sort only IPOBians, forever envious of Yorubas and Yoruba land, will continue to feel. Lol.

What Lagos is doing is reasonable
They need money for tools like infrastructure factories and rails but other parts of Nigeria need that aswell and can’t benefit off being coastal like Lagos, it’s healthy for revenues to be diverted to neighbouring cities as it all comes back around when every state produces the revenue it needs to thrive and grow its industries

seguno2:


Please can someone, anyone fault this excellent submission
Any volunteer?

There's no sub-national govt in subsaharan Africa doing any project at the scale of Lagos
Only national govt embark on projects like light rail, or new cities like Eko Atlantic

This is actually chump change, they need like about 100 times more than this figure and restrain population growth and inflow migration into Lagos state for any meaningful change to be seen in Lagos.

Lagos state Lagos should be shinning like Dubai, but can not because of the large population of immigrants from failed states, they are practically stalling progress and straining resources.

I once saw a stream of new streetlights already vandalized and cannibalized for parts by criminals, same with government infrastructures all over the state.

LASG can never keep up with Lagos and unsustainable human growth and pressure on never enough resources.

Ovamboland:


There's no sub-national govt in subsaharan Africa doing any project at the scale of Lagos
Only national govt embark on projects like light rail, or new cities like Eko Atlantic

God will bless you ojare. I can't even fathom why Nigerians are so emboldened to go public with ignorance that is simply laughable.

Some chap was saying Lagos is not handling major project on the scale seen throughout neighboring Countries. I had to laugh.

Nothing is the equivalent of Eko Atlantic in the entire Africa. Talk less of the metro rail system that will be the only one of it's kind in sub-saharan Africa perhaps only matched by what is available in the most developed African nations of South Africa, Egypt etal.

The Lekki free trade zone, Dangote refinery, one of the biggest in the world, and planned international airport are amazing projects that will make the Lekki-Epe corridor one of the biggest hub of African export-import trading and logistics.

The Dangote man-made port and jetty I have seen with my own eyes nko?

Sometimes the igorance on this forum, driven by ethnocentric bigotry and mischief-making, is enough to make one deactivate a valid account.

lukaino:
Despite the huge IGR, we barely have good roads to drive on. I wonder what they do with all the money

That revenue of 267b is tiny, Johannesburg we should be comparing with Lagos generated 7 trillion naira equivalent in 6 months from it's 5m residents.
Una just plenty reach 20m for nothing, contributing little or nothing to bottom line of Lagos.

Lagos revenue looks big only when you compare to puny contraptions, jokes called states.

OmoEpe:


Why reply the NITWIT? Before Tinubu in 99 Lagos was an urban jungle earning a partly #600m annually. Tinubu started the revolution hat has brought it to #50bn monthly.
Between then and now what changed? What infrastructure has FG put there under PDP?

The nincompoop is a product of gross ignorance deserving no attention

It's over 30 years that FG did anything tangible in Lagos.
It's Buhari that has ensured the Lagos Ibadan rail was completed and pushing the Lagos Ibadan expressway.

Who says the North and West alliance has not paid off? When 16 years of PDP led by southerners delivered virtually nothing special to Lagos

seguno2:


Please can someone, anyone fault this excellent submission
Any volunteer?

Why not first start with how exactly the FG developed Lagos?

Let us know if FG or even the colonials built more than Ports, 1 airport and 2 or 3 bridges in Lagos state?

I always wonder what people like you insinuate that the FG developed Lagos or in any way responsible for their economic growth.

Economic growth in Lagos came from industrialization and the industries in Lagos state and the last time I checked, the FG's seat and presence was limited to Lagos Island and the industries and industrial estates were established by the old Western Region under Awolowo.

DOTian:
The federal government should stop giving Lagos State any sort of monthly allocations unless as relief funds for say any sort of reasonable natural disasters..
The federal government has already helped Lagos to build up solid infastructure base more than any other state bar Abuja. This has given Lagos enough headstart in terms of monthly/yearly tax incomes bigger than that of most west African countries. I don't know why they will be dragging paltry allocations with the likes of Plautue, Osun or Ebony afterwards...

Many west African States are handling mega projects bigger than whatever Fashola or Sanwo Olu have done in Lagos State. Yet Lagos earns bigger revenue but will always be comparing herself with tiny Nigerian states. If the people of Lagos State are not willing to take actions to extricate themselves from the evil grip of the Tinubu odious dynasty, they should be forced to stew in their own juice! We can't be sharing our tiny oil money with some drug lord and his platoon of rampaging evil oligarchs..
Pls..

I challenge you to name these projects here and now. No shifting of goal posts and no double-speak excuses.

Just name the projects putting Lagos to shame or accept you are an IPOBian ethnocentric bigot and tribalistic damaged goods.

The fourth mainland bridge alone that is one of many spectacular and world class projects of Lagos , with construction due to start in December 2021, is exemplarily the longest bridge in Africa.

You Igbos need to cure yourselves of the hate disease that sees you lying so hideously just because you cannot give credit where due as an extremely ethnocentric and bigoted people.

Lagos projects has names and structure every observer acknowledge as superlative and exemplary .

Can you rise to the challenge and prove your point by citing the examples of "mega projects" other African nations are handling?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmaSkL08DPE

It is grossly ridiculous to keep talking about the FG in Lagos when in fact the FG left decades ago, so who is managing Lagos, developing Lagos, transformed the IGR from N500 Million before 1999 to what massive doughnut today?

Is the FG responsible for the tax policies and tax collection policies that's generating this massive IGR?

Was the FG also the governor of Lagos state when Tinubu came up with the brilliant idea to generate huge IGR?

ba7man:
Me: Lagos is in the Southwest.

Nothing changes that.

A whole lot. States are constitutionally recognized as federating units not zones.

plaindealer:
It is grossly ridiculous to keep talking about the FG in Lagos when in fact the FG left decades ago, so who is managing Lagos, developing Lagos, transformed the IGR from N500 Million before 1999 to what massive doughnut today?

Is the FG responsible for the tax policies and tax collection policies that's generating this massive IGR?

Was the FG also the governor of Lagos state when Tinubu came up with the brilliant idea to generate huge IGR?

Don't mind them. Shameless people. To give credit where due they are incapable of because of nothing other than ethnocentric hate and envy of Yorubas.

When Dangote refinery, fertilizer and petrochemical complex kicks in and Lagos state's massive IGR quadruple, I won't be suprised to hear the same rubbish about the FG developed Lagos as if the FG begged and lobbied Dangote to establish in Lagos state instead of the Lagos state government and Fashola doing all the hard work, sacrificing thousands of acres of prime land, creating the largest FTZ in West Africa, establishing the first and the largest private deep seaport in West Africa, the largest ricer mill in Africa and so on..

The noise about the FG developing Lagos comes primarily from people with failed governors and failed states, this is their one and only face-saving argument to excuse their own failed governors and failed state.

Dsalvo:


Don't mind them. Shameless people. To give credit where due they are incapable of because of nothing other than ethnocentric hate and envy of Yorubas.

It is sad that this is all they have going for them, they have nothing more to offer humanity beyond petty hate and bitterness while their own failed states rot and decay away with poor and incompetent governance.

seguno2 post=:


All the ports (sea and air) don’t count
Who is mad now?

What does Lagos govt earn from the seaport?

plaindealer:



Why not first start with how exactly the FG developed Lagos?

Let us know if FG or even the colonials built more than Ports, 1 airport and 2 or 3 bridges in Lagos state?

I always wonder what people like you insinuate that the FG developed Lagos or in any way responsible for their economic growth.

Economic growth in Lagos came from industrialization and the industries in Lagos state and the last time I checked, the FG's seat and presence was limited to Lagos Island and the industries and industrial estates were established by the old Western Region under Awolowo.

Awolowo' built Ikeja including the industrial Estates out of a thick Jungle which Elephants leopards apes Crocodiles and Chimpanzees were still roaming around in ,Into the Commercial Capital of the Western Region

The Dream that turned Lagos into an Economic Powerhouse was Awolowo's dream

plaindealer:
Why not first start with how exactly the FG developed Lagos?

Let us know if FG or even the colonials built more than Ports, 1 airport and 2 or 3 bridges in Lagos state?

I always wonder what people like you insinuate that the FG developed Lagos or in any way responsible for their economic growth.

Economic growth in Lagos came from industrialization and the industries in Lagos state and the last time I checked, the FG's seat and presence was limited to Lagos Island and the industries and industrial estates were established by the old Western Region under Awolowo.

Industrialisation that was not enhanced/made possible by the presence of the ports

Ovamboland:
What does Lagos govt earn from the seaport?

What does Lagos NOT earn (directly and indirectly) from the seaport and airport

Ovamboland:
There's no sub-national govt in subsaharan Africa doing any project at the scale of Lagos
Only national govt embark on projects like light rail, or new cities like Eko Atlantic

Continue making excuses for the Lagos thieves instead of insisting on what they have done with the increased IGR that ultimately comes out of your pocket.
If they increased the IGR by multiple times, did they also increase the hectolitres of water and number of buildings covered by the same multiple times, to give one example

Kinematics:



What is this one saying? Make Rivers capital of Nigeria for atleast 30 yrs, then we can compare.

Abuja has been capital of Nigeria for 30 years when will it turn to Lagos?

God can never bless with the hate in your miserable wretched life. A Lagos that 95% of your pathetic household run to just to labour their souls away as slave his who you are questioning it finances while you ignore the finances fools governing Abia Ebonyi Imo Enugu Anambra.

In regards to your wail of being Yoruba you can go to hell for all I care even if you are french.

chukwugoziegi:


Sonny, I'm a Yoruba man and no member of my family is cursed or will be lagbara olorun. I chose that moniker Chukuwugoziegi because I love the meaning. It means "God bless you" not everything has to be a tribal war.

Oluwa a wa pelu e o.

Ovamboland:


Abuja has been capital of Nigeria for 30 years when will it turn to Lagos?

Dont mind them. Clowns.

harjay1986:


I think you are right on this am a yoruba man I think some states need to stand alone to finance themself without Federal allocation, we have some big wig like two or three who can manage their own affair without federal government, this will allow federal government to invest more in other states that are likely to stand alone

some country in africa self dont generate what Lagos generate per year

Only tiny countries of 500k residents or few million generate around what Lagos gets.
Ghana is 28m people but budget is $15bn while Lagos of 22m budget is $2.5bn

seguno2:


Industrialisation that was not enhanced/made possible by the presence of the ports

So we should feel guilty that our ancestors located next to the coast?
The ports were not established by the FG

The ports have been a cash cow long before the amalgamation of Nigeria

before 1900
Customs was generating £180000 which is the equivalent of £1620000 or 8.1 billion Naira in today's money
https://www.nairaland.com/4144976/lagos-1898before-nigeria-not-oil/4

Sonyboom765:
God can never bless with the hate in your miserable wretched life. A Lagos that 95% of your pathetic household run to just to labour their souls away as slave his who you are questioning it finances while you ignore the finances fools governing Abia Ebonyi Imo Enugu Anambra.

In regards to your wail of being Yoruba you can go to hell for all I care even if you are french.

That's how they are. The biggest and most hateful ingrates on earth.

Biafrarep:
Every day they keep peddling fake IGR yet hunger has almost finished all of them.

What they won't tell you is that PAYE i.e. pay as you earn is responsible for most of the so-called IGR. Now over 90% of all federal government agencies, ministries and parastertels are in Lagos and Abuja, with the remaining others in Kaduna and Rivers. That's basically why they account for most of the PAYE tax. Again, while all other regions have 7 & 6 states each, SE has just 5 meaning a massive loss PAYE tax that would have accrued to the region had it been they have 6 or 7 states.


Rubbish!!!

Why e come pain you like this

aribisala0:

So we should feel guilty that our ancestors located next to the coast?
The ports were not established by the FG

The ports have been a cash cow long before the amalgamation of Nigeria

before 1900
Customs was generating £180000 which is the equivalent of £1620000 or 8.1 billion Naira in today's money
https://www.nairaland.com/4144976/lagos-1898before-nigeria-not-oil/4

Who said that you or anyone should feel guilty about anything
If you have guilty conscience, it’s entirely your fault, not mine.

When did Lagos island change from being a Bini kingdom outpost to a British Protectorate?

seguno2:


Continue making excuses for the Lagos thieves instead of insisting on what they have done with the increased IGR that ultimately comes out of your pocket.
If they increased the IGR by multiple times, did they also increase the hectolitres of water and number of buildings covered by the same multiple times, to give one example

Have you asked what your SE Governors have done with the IGR that "ultimately" comes out of the pockets of Igbos?

Lagos you remain obsessed with maligning is good enough to be the biggest home of Igbos in the entire universe outsidey your SE domain.

Yet who wants to relocate to wretched SE that your governors have horribly mismanaged and turned into no-go deadland zones?

DOTian:
The federal government should stop giving Lagos State any sort of monthly allocations unless as relief funds for say any sort of reasonable natural disasters..
The federal government has already helped Lagos to build up solid infastructure base more than any other state bar Abuja. This has given Lagos enough headstart in terms of monthly/yearly tax incomes bigger than that of most west African countries. I don't know why they will be dragging paltry allocations with the likes of Plautue, Osun or Ebony afterwards...

Many west African States are handling mega projects bigger than whatever Fashola or Sanwo Olu have done in Lagos State. Yet Lagos earns bigger revenue but will always be comparing herself with tiny Nigerian states. If the people of Lagos State are not willing to take actions to extricate themselves from the evil grip of the Tinubu odious dynasty, they should be forced to stew in their own juice! We can't be sharing our tiny oil money with some drug lord and his platoon of rampaging evil oligarchs..
Pls..

Thank you my brother


This is what I usually say but most Nairalanders haven't been to other African cities to see real project with real impacts of the people

seguno2:


Industrialisation that was not enhanced/made possible by the presence of the ports

I asked for a list of FG actions that developed Lagos, but you only managed to come up with just 1, ports.

Here is my own question to highlight the weakness and absurdity behind your port and FG argument.

With the ports in Lagos, how come Lagos state was not generating this massive figures before 1999? Shebi the ports were there before 1999?

Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?