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| Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 3:10pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Re: Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims: My Views, My Experiences – By Alhaja Adeola Agoro November 6, 2021 I read Kperogi’s article with a smile playing around my lips. It brought back the contents of the second chapter of the first part of my (yet to be published) book, ‘Journey to Islam: The Journey So Far’. While I wouldn’t say Kperogi was totally right in his submissions, I’ll say that I agree with a lot of what he said. I was born a Christian. I converted to Islam in 2009. I have spent enough time in the Islamic religion to form an opinion about it. I can say what is right or wrong about the religion and those who practise it. I started writing the book, ‘Journey to Islam in 2017. Then I paused. Life is a journey and you can never really capture it all until the last day, so I said, ‘Let’s see if something will change and I may have to change some things in the book’. As Jon.Bellion said in one of his songs that I love so much, “Nothing has changed, he’s the same…” From the point of writing that book till now, let me say nothing has changed. So, let me share the second chapter of the first part of that book below: 2’Yerima and Other Influences Long before my innocent mind began to get conscious of the fire religious strife and crisis caused by displacing people and rendering many homeless, fatherless and sending several to their early graves in Nigeria, I knew about religious marginalisation. I grew up to know about religious sentiments, influences and stigmas. 1 Like
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 3:13pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims: My Views, My Experiences – By Alhaja Adeola Agoro CONTINUATION...... I grew up amongst a certain class of Christians who considered themselves holy. Going to church on Sunday, coming back to eat jollof rice and chicken and watching good family films like the ‘Sounds of Music’ was a way of life. In those days, we were made to believe that the Christian kids were the ones who wore crisply ironed clothes on Sunday. They were the ones who wore ‘ready-made’ clothes with socks and nice shoes to match. Looking back now, I must admit that it was the highpoint of Christianity to wear the kinds of beautiful dresses with hats to match that I wore on Sundays. Looking that good meant I was a Christian. Or so I was made to believe. We were the sheltered ones who were not allowed to mix with just any other children in the neighbourhood. We were only heard from the confines of our homes and hardly seen. On the other hand, those who wore clothes sewed with ankara materials, who played outside, who went to Arabic schools or who chanted Arabic language as dictated by their teachers were regarded as considered to be a little lower than us. The explanation was not really made; we just knew. I knew how the opinions of certain people about you became coloured the moment they found out your name was Mojeed or Shakirat or whatever Muslim name it was. Oh no! It just meant that you must be ill-bred. It meant that your upbringing was not all together complete. In cases where they couldn’t fault you for being half-baked because you were a Muslim, they assumed that you were aggressive and stubborn. In Ibadan where I spent my first sixteen years, Muslims were referred to as ‘Imale’ (followers of the hard religion). 1 Like
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 3:18pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims: My Views, My Experiences – By Alhaja Adeola Agoro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The explanation was not really made; we just knew. I knew how the opinions of certain people about you became coloured the moment they found out your name was Mojeed or Shakirat or whatever Muslim name it was. Oh no! It just meant that you must be ill-bred. It meant that your upbringing was not all together complete. In cases where they couldn’t fault you for being half-baked because you were a Muslim, they assumed that you were aggressive and stubborn. In Ibadan where I spent my first sixteen years, Muslims were referred to as ‘Imale’ (followers of the hard religion). To this day, there is an area in Ibadan known as ‘Imalefalafia’ literarily meaning the ‘followers of the hard religion want peace’.In the Christian family where I grew up, a Christian was more likely to be trusted for anything than an imale. By a stroke of fate, I discovered that most of the people hired for house chores and such other things in my family were Muslims. It went to show that the Muslims around us then were not educated and so had to take the lowest of jobs. I could remember that the woman who did our laundry till I grew up was called Iya Seki (Sekinat). It was just assumed that Muslim families didn’t care about educating their children beyond a certain level. I can’t remember if anything was ever done to assist them in that regards. In a funny way, it didn’t matter if you were a Baptist or Anglican, if you came for a domestic work and it was discovered that you were a Christian, it used to elicit a level of surprise that you were not educated or that you chose to do some menial jobs. It was certain that your employer would ensure that you either went to school or learnt a vocation. All you to had to do worm your way into the minds of your employers or to get favours was to say you were a Christian. (It might matter though if you were a Celestian or aladura. 1 Like
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 3:20pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims: My Views, My Experiences – By Alhaja Adeola Agoro ______________________________________________________ You were not quite different from a Muslim in the estimation of the holier-than-thou Christians). But things did not have that kind of colouration the moment I stepped out into the real world. From the moment I left home for my higher education till the moment I embraced Islam, it never mattered to the Muslims I met whether I was a Christian or Muslim or traditionalist before help came my way. All that mattered was the fact that I was a human being. And very much unlike what I grew up to know with somebody preaching to you that you must accept Christ to enter heaven and bearing heavily on your whether you wanted to talk religion or not, the Muslims I met NEVER tried to talk to me about their faith in a you-must-accept-it-by-force manner. To this day, no Muslim that I met in those days condemned my religion.I would sit and dine with Muslims and we would be talking but the moment it was time for prayer, they would excuse themselves, do their ablution and quietly withdraw to pray without as much as invite you. If you visited them on Fridays, they would leave you in their house, go to mosque to pray and come back to meet you. Not only were they respectful of your religion, they trusted you with their possessions. I wonder if there are Christians who would leave you in their house on a Sunday when going to church without pressurizing you to go to church with them – whatever your religion or sect.This was my unprejudiced observation until I met Yerima. Sen. Ahmed Sani popularly known as Yerima was the Governor of Zamfara State then.Yerima came into national prominence for the introduction of Sharia Law to Zamfara State. Under him, the Penal Code became more effective and whoever erred or contravened the law faced summary actions. The name Yerima meant fear to non-Muslims outside his state. It was the general opinion that if you were not a Muslim, you couldn’t be safe near a fanatic like Yerima and in fact, you had no business being in Zamfara. I had started making a mark in journalism when one day, a friend I went to school with called to say she met Yerima’s ADC and discussed the prospects of me coming down to Zamfara to interview the governor. Without thinking about it for a moment, I turned down the opportunity. Me, Yerima? No way!! As hungry as I was for good stories, I didn’t think Yerima was an area I could approach and I thought I was not the kind of journalist he would want near him for an interview. After all, I was a jean-wearing journalist with braids and totally un-Islamic in all ways.Little did I know that fate was bringing me in contact with Yerima and that was going to be an opportunity to see all Muslims in the same light – accommodating and not condemning of your religion. I met Yerima in the Summer of 2006. I was one of the panellists on a live broadcast of the breakfast show of Ben TV where Yerima was a guest. I had gone there dressed in jeans with my braids pulled up and complete with trainers and clanging bangles. |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 3:23pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims: My Views, My Experiences – By Alhaja Adeola Agoro _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ I looked a complete I-don’t-care type – a yuppy woman. After the television program, along with some other journalists, I went for more exclusive interview for my newspaper and despite Yerima’s stance on Sharia, he didn’t as much as look at me as a sinner for once. The biggest part of it is that when I returned to Nigeria and applied to be one of his media consultants, he gave me the chance without delay. There I was, a Christian and a woman for that matter!I was treated with much respect and dignity and everybody around him respected me for what I had to offer – my brain. Whenever I had a job to discuss with him or show him, he would attend to me but he never allowed us to be alone together. And when it was time for prayer, they would all go for prayers and come back to resume whatever I had to show him. It was around that time that I began to feel naked by not covering my head and body. Something in me told me it wasn’t right. Yerima and those around him preached to me through their behaviours without saying a word. They accepted me the way I was. They worked with me without discrimination and they made me see what beauty there was in Islam. In those days of surrendering to the silent and beautiful pull of Islam, I couldn’t stop asking myself if any of those I grew up with in my Christian background would be so accommodating. Would they give a Muslim woman a chance to work with them, dine with them, make money and not go to church with them? Would they have a very attractive Muslim woman around them and not as much as make a pass at her?I doubt. Seriously, I doubt. From Justice Babatunde Adejumo, President of the National Industrial Court to my mentor and father, Sen. Umaru Dahiru through whom I finally embraced Islam, through whom I went for Hadj, through whom I grew in faith and through whom I have learnt a lot, to Arch. Halima Tayo Alao, to Dr. Mahmuda Aliyu Shinkafi and so many others, I have been given opportunities by a lot of Muslims without any asking for anything in return. These are all people of deep faith who never asked me to compromise my former religion till I was personally convinced. I am indeed lucky to have seen the light of Islam myself through the conducts of these Muslim people. These people showed the way to Islam more through deep love and acceptance of everybody whatever your religion than through talks. May Allah continue to guide them in their faith and make them lead more to Him through their conducts, ameen.’ That’s that about the second chapter of the book. I’ve not come here to say I agree or disagree with Kperogi, but I know that a Muslim will most likely accept you for a job or marriage or anything sooner than a Christian will. Well…. I stand to be corrected after so many years of holding that belief. –Alhaja Adeola Agoro JP writes from Abuja |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by thorpido(m): 3:34pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
I’ve not come here to say I agree or disagree with Kperogi, but I know that a Muslim will most likely accept you for a job or marriage or anything sooner than a Christian will.Like most articles like this,this is just someone's opinion and personal belief. There are many places in this world where non-muslims do not have their own rights.She should tell me more about this acceptance @ bold in Afghanistan. |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:02pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Empiree: Be corrected, Christians do have their stories of Muslim bigotry, a common experience seen in Abuja. Even evident that Igbo men, a whole Igbo man became Muslim. Please, just continue in your own driving. |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 4:50pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
Ikoyi Tragedy and Casual Bigotry Against Yoruba Muslims. By Farooq A. Kperogi Amid the grief of the heartrendingly tragic collapse of the 21-storey luxury apartment building in Ikoyi, Lagos, a sadly familiar, barely acknowledged but nonetheless insidiously widespread anti-Muslim bigotry in Yoruba land came to light. A Yoruba Muslim by the name of Adebowale Sikiru revealed in an interview with a YouTube news channel called AN 24 that he was rejected for a job at the Ikoyi construction site because of his Muslim faith. He applied for the position of a site engineer and was found qualified enough to deserve being invited for an interview by Femi Osibona, the MD of Foursquare Homes, the firm that managed the construction of the ill-fated multi-storey building. After the interview, Sikiru said Osibona asked him what church he attended, and he responded that he was a Muslim. “Ah, I can’t work with a Muslim,” Sikiru quoted Osibona to have said. Osibona reportedly said in Yoruba that he couldn’t work with someone whose response to his chant of “Praise God!” would be “Alhamdulillah!” When Sikiru told him of his struggles with getting gainfully employed after graduation, Osibona also reportedly said it was probably because of his Muslim faith that he was not “able to make a headway” in life. “He said that in front of even the bricklayers” and many others at the site, Sikiru said. Sikiru left the site sad, humiliated, and deflated, but a friend of his who brought his attention to the job he had interviewed for called him while he was on his way back home. The friend wanted to find out if he was trapped in the building that had collapsed a few hours earlier. That was the time it dawned on Sikiru that his rejection and humiliation on account of his faith ironically saved him from death. Unfortunately, Osibona died in the collapsed building, so we have no way of getting his own side of the story. Nonetheless, it doesn’t seem plausible that Sikiru, who didn’t even come across as a devout Muslim during his interview with AN 24, would just wake up and invent the encounter with Osibona. Plus, videos that have emerged of Osibona’s meretriciously outward displays of his Christianity and evangelical exhibitionism are consistent with Sikiru’s account of his encounter with him. More than that, though, it merely instantiates the casual bigotry that Yoruba Muslims routinely contend with in their own natal region on account of their faith, which I’ve known for years. I followed the social media conversations that Sikiru’s encounter with Osibona triggered among Yoruba Muslims and came away with the distinct impression that many Yoruba Muslims are seething with frustration and deep-seated inferiority complex on account of their faith-based systematic exclusion and demonization, but they are grinning and bearing their fate in smoldering silence out of social pressure, out of anxieties about social ostracism. We call this the spectacle of the spiral of silence in communication theory. A Facebook friend of mine by the name of Ganiyu Oludare Lasisi who now lives and works in Scotland narrated how he was denied a job to teach high school geography in his hometown of Abeokuta because of his Muslim faith. He has an Upper Second-Class honors degree in Geography and a distinction in the subject in his “O” level. But “on the day of the interview,” Lasisi said, “the school owner/founder (also a pastor) rejected me because of my Muslim name (Ganiyu). I was so sad and angry then. He even suggested that I can convert to Christianity and change Ganiyu to Gabriel.” In their safe spaces, multiple Yoruba Muslims shared similar such anecdotal encounters of causal bigotry. |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 4:51pm On Nov 12, 2021 |
They say they are habitually ridiculed for their faith, sneered at for their Muslim sartorial choices, alienated and rhetorically marginalized, and outright denied opportunities by people with whom they share the same ethnicity. Several of them are forced to convert to Christianity or hide their faith to fit in. Just the other day, on November 3, Premium Times published a story of the appointment of a 45-year-old professor of geo-technical engineering by the name of Afeez Bello as acting Vice Chancellor of the Osun State University in Osogbo. The photo of Bello that the paper used to illustrate the story was of a heavily bearded man with a Muslim felt hat. Apparently, that sartorial symbol of male Muslim identity was like a red rag to a bull among Christian Facebook commenters, most of whom were Yoruba. The man was called “Boko Haram,” “Shekau’s reincarnation,” a “fanatic,” and all sorts of other cruel slanders and unwarrantedly unmentionable vituperations. I was emotionally distraught after reading a sample of the comments. I inflicted self-torture on myself. The truth is that the famed religious ecumenicalism and tolerance of the Yoruba people is often achieved at the expense of Yoruba Muslims. It is they, and not their Christian brothers and sisters, who must always perform religious tolerance. (In his interview with the YouTube news channel, even Sikiru felt compelled to say that 95 percent of his friends are Christians and that he hadn’t closed off the possibility that he could convert to Christianity at some point in his life.) It is Yoruba Muslims who are required to downplay or hide their religious identity in the interest of an overarching Yoruba identity because, over the last few decades, Christianity has been rhetorically constituted in the popular imagination as a core constituent in the construction of Yoruba identity. That’s why prominent Yoruba Muslims almost always have to invoke their connection to Christianity to fit in. The late Gani Fawehinmi always had a need to show that his wife was a Christian. Bola Ahmed Tinubu has a need to strategically let it be known that his wife isn’t only a Christian but a deacon. House of Representatives Speaker Olufemi Hakeem Gbajabiamila concealed his Muslim identity until he needed the support of the Muslim North to become Speaker. After the fact, his handlers played up the fact that his wife and his mother are Christians. Prince Bola Ajibola, one of Africa’s finest jurists who happens to be a devout Muslim, doesn’t openly bear Abduljabar, his Muslim name—unlike his father who bore Abdulsalam as his first name—perhaps, not being married to a Christian, it was his only way to reassure his Christian Yoruba brothers and sisters that he is Yoruba. Yet, he is so strong in his Muslim faith that he established the Crescent University, one of Nigeria’s first private Islamic universities, in his hometown of Abeokuta. Although Muslims constitute a numerical majority in Yoruba land, they are a symbolic minority and are perpetually put in a position to prove their “Yorubaness.” For instance, in the heat of the debate over the formation of Amotekun to ward off “Fulani bandits,” Bolaji Aluko, who was a professor here in the United States and who is now a prominent Ekiti State government official, used the moment to stealthily alienate Yoruba Muslims in his state. In a January 25, 2021 article titled “Sunday Musings: On the Matter of Farmer-Herdsmen Clashes in Ekiti State,” he wrote, among other things, “Our Muslim Yoruba citizens must decide whether the Umma principle of brotherhood is greater that [sic] the collective security of our Yoruba citizenry." As I told him then, there are at least four ways in which he was wrong. First, he exoticized, needlessly put Yoruba Muslims on the spot, and created a false binary between being Muslim and being Yoruba, even though (nominal) Muslims constitute the majority in Oyo, Osun, Ogun, and Lagos states. Islam has been in Yorubaland since at least the 1400s. The first mosque was built in Oyo-Ile, the ancient capital of the Oyo Empire, in 1550, that is, centuries before colonialism. Second, Yoruba Muslims are themselves victims of the homicidal fury of Fulani brigands. If being Muslim hasn't immunized Yoruba Muslims against sanguinary clashes with Fulani people, why should they be singled out as people who are suspect, as people who might betray non-Muslim Yoruba people to the Fulani out of "the Umma principle of brotherhood," which, by the way, is nonsensical, meaningless verbiage? Third, Aluko’s claim assumes that all Fulani brigands are Muslims (they are NOT) and that they are committing their crimes on behalf of Islam, which would predispose them spare Yoruba Muslims in the spirit of "the Umma principle of brotherhood." But nothing can be more ignorant and bigoted than that. If "Umma principle of brotherhood" (whatever the heck that means) were a thing, Muslims in Katsina, Zamfara, Kaduna, Niger, and elsewhere (who are also incidentally Fulani, Hausa, or "Hausa-Fulani"  wouldn't be killed, kidnapped, and overawed by criminally bloodthirsty Fulani brigands. Mosques wouldn’t be invaded, and imams and worshipers kidnapped and murdered. That should tell anyone that this isn't about religion or even ethnicity.Sadly, Yoruba Muslims have no voice and seem to have accepted their fate with listless resignation. Not being a Yoruba myself, I know I will be viciously attacked by the people who lubricate and enjoy the current hegemonic high ground that puts Yoruba Muslims at the lower end of the totem pole, but I am not one to shy away from telling the truth because of fear of attacks. I resist injustice no matter who the victims or the perpetrators are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJgIZvkjqPo |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 10:21pm On Nov 15, 2021 |
VIDEO | Tolerance or violation of fundamental rights of Muslims in Southwest? We can no longer hide away from the fact that the fundamental rights of Muslims in the Southwest region of Nigeria are being grossly violated by their non-Muslim neighbours. Evidence are too numerous to mention even though some still hide under this denial, calling it tolerance. The earlier we all admit and find a lasting solution, the better for us all, and the greater for Nigeria, our dear country. To start with, some people should be prosecuted for the recent forceful preaching in Oyo state public schools. Watch >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A_K8aKM1O0 *Powered by Rawshield PR Media* |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 9:48pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Concerned Muslim Organisations, Oyo State 15th November, 2021 His Excellency, Engr. Seyi Makinde, The Executive Governor of Oyo State, Governor’s Office, Secretariat Ibadan. Dear Sir, TESCOM CHAIRMAN - AN IMPLACABLE PROMOTER OF INJUSTICE All praises and adorations are due to Almighty Allah, the Bestower of power to whomever He wills, may His choicest blessing continued to be with the best of mankind, Noble Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.). The above named umbrella Organisation wishes to bring to your notice Sir, the shattering pain, fear, confusion and cloud of despondency- the action of your political appointee in person of Pastor Akinade Alamu with collaboration of the Permanent Secretary Teaching Service Commission (TESCOM) Mrs. Grace Olabisi Oderinde inflicted upon the Muslim Ummah of our noble state. As parents and stakeholders, we are “concerned” about the evangelisation of a carefully laid down plan of a foreign evangelist called Daniel Kolenda under the auspices of GREAT GOSPEL CRUSADE in our public schools across the city of Ibadan and its environs. Therefore, there is no gainsaying in the fact that Pastor Alamu and TESCOM Permanent Secretary had fore knowledge of the said GOSPEL CRUSADE. Second Christianity Crusade In Yorùbáland Has Begun |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 9:51pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Concerned Muslim Organisations, Oyo State A ‘deep apology letter’ was purportedly written by the organiser of the said crusade on the 10th of November, 2021 to the Chairman TESCOM through the Permanent Secretary claiming thus; “it has come to our notice that one of our team visited a public school in their outreach. We are sorry for this error as it was done without our knowledge”. This letter dated 10th November. 2021, was delivered and acknowledged same day by TESCOM. When a group claiming to be working for God wrote such a letter, a sane man ought to believe that it was actually done in error as claimed and that TESCOM would come out with clear instruction to its work force on the field. But to our dismay, TESCOM has done nothing to bring this unholy situation under control. On the contrary, the crusade to public schools continued unabated till Friday 12th November 2021. The Crusaders’ were seen calling out Muslim pupils to abandon their classes and lessons and were encouraged to give their lives to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. Not only is this contrary to the provisions of Nigeria’s constitution, the action of these crusaders constitute open invitation to religious war and the enthronement of anarchy in this state. Propositioning students in public schools and their invitation to abandon the religion of their parents through odious and brazen proselytization constitute an egregious infraction of their rights and that of their parents. It is unarguably the worst injustice that a government agency could perpetrate against the citizens of the state. Second Christianity Crusade: An Agenda To Christianize Nigeria |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 9:53pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
CHRISTIANITY Re-colonization of Nigeria Has Started Mr. Governor Sir, Muslims are the most tolerant people as you may also attest to, but for the Christian folks to add insults to our injuries is a privilege taken too far. It may interest your Excellency to know some of the schools visited by this so called GREAT GOSPEL CRUSADERS include: 1. Yejide Girls Grammar School, Molete, Ibadan. 2. Anglican Grammar School, Molete. 3. Basorun Ojoo High School, Bashorun 4. Community Grammar School, Laniba 5. Aperin Boys’ High School 6. Pegba Community High School, Pegba 7. Olunde Community High School, Olunde. 8. Ifelodun Community Secondary School, Muslim Area, Ibadan 9. Abbey Technical, Odo-ona Elewe, Ibadan 10. Community High School, Sasa 11. Loyola College, Ibadan 12. Government Sec. School, Orita Aperin 13. Government Technical College, Orita Aperin 14. Jericho High School, Ibadan 15. Abadina College, U. I., Ibadan 16. Lalupon Community Grammar School, Lalupon 17. Methodist Grammar School, Bodija 18. Gbekuba Community School, Gbekuba, Ibadan. just to mention but a few. A man of great integrity and deep sense of public service could not dare to be so partisan as the Chairman of TESCOM appears. How could he have allowed an international Christian Evangelist preachers to the unsuspecting Muslim Students in public schools because you are a pastor heading TESCOM. You sowing winds; he who sows wind will reap whirlwind! OUR DEMANDS 1. Immediate sack and termination of the appointment of the Chairman Teaching Service Commission (TESCOM) in person of Pastor Akinade Alamu as he is not fit to hold a public office in a multi religious environment such as ours. 2. Immediate sack or at worst demotion of Permanent Secretary TESCOM in person of Mrs. Grace Olabisi Oderinde for negligence of duty. 3. Immediate demotion and re-deployment of affected school Principals for their incompetence. 4. Upholding UNESCO declaration on public schools to prevent future occurrence. Yours in the service of the Nation, Signed Alhaji Luqman Onaolapo Co-ordinator Abdul Jalil Abdur Razaq Secretary CC: - His Excellency, Deputy Governor of Oyo State - State Director of DSS - Commissioner of Police, Oyo State - Commissioner of Education, Oyo State - Chairman, Teaching Service Commission (TESCOM), Oyo State - Permanent Secretary, Teaching Service Commission (TESCOM), Oyo State - The Chief Imam of Ibadanland - Aare Musulumi of Yorubaland, Edo and Delta States - Executive Secretary, MUSWEN - Muslim Community of Oyo State - National Council of Muslim Youth Organisations (NACOMYO), Oyo State - Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN), Oyo State Area Unit - S.A. to Executive Governor on Islamic Affairs - Muslim Lawyers Association (MULAN), Oyo State Chapter - Political Awareness Group (PAG), Oyo State - MURIC, Oyo State Chapter - Federation of Ahlul-Sunnah Organisations (FASON) - Muslim Media Practitioners of Nigeria (MMPN), Oyo State Chapter - Federation of Muslim Women Association of Nigeria (FOMWAN), Oyo State - Association of Model Islamic Schools (AMIS), Oyo State Chapter |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 7:51pm On Dec 11, 2021 |
https://www.facebook.com/102774866979146/posts/1003473463575944/ It is getting too much and out of hand. When did they suddenly develop this intolerance attitude in 21st century?. There was nothing like this in the 90s. Everyone was fine back then It is the same in Ghana
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Mummymanal(f): 1:04am On Apr 22, 2022 |
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Mummymanal(f): 3:04pm On Apr 23, 2022 |
Empiree: Assallamu Alaikum sir Good afternoon sir I understand sir May Allah continue to bless you sir for all you have been doing Shukuran jazeelan 1 Like |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Padipadi(m): 12:36am On Apr 27, 2022 |
You are sighted MURIC agent. I don't support injustice. Table any injustice against Muslims with logical facts. Farooq Kperogi is just a paid writer feeding from political crumbs. Hope you v helped that young lady whose post is up there. |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by J3susFr3ak: 4:47am On Jun 21, 2022 |
Empiree: When I had my first conversations with you....in my mind I really did think you might be a a deluded Yoruba young lad completely blinded by whatever Islam is presenting itself to be. With some bit of search I was surprised to learn that you are a woman. Hmm.... My apologies if I was to harsh on you thinking you were a male like me. Is this your image below? Reading through what you read....I think it was very misguided of you to make these broad generalizations about the actual nature of WHO Christians are simply based on your own very narrow experiences. I would have frozen to death in Canada several times if Canadian Christians did not open their homes to me and accept me to live with them until I could sort myself out and get back on my feet. Me being Nigerian black....and they being White. There was NO REASON at all for them to want to help me....but the compassion of Christ made them do so. And yes at a point, I could opt out of attending Church with them--or choose to go to another Pentecostal Church nearby. Those experiences HUMBLED me a lot and sort became a great teachable moment for me. I really thought I was a great Christian....but these believers were further challenging me too by their kindness to be even better. I suppose there would be a few Nigerian Christians with the same level of maturity to treat strangers too in the same way....But I think the inherent mutual suspicion in the cultures here makes others very skeptical in helping strangers. This is mostly a Nigerian cultural thing...not necessarily a Christian thing! But there are a few exceptions. In the Mid-80s when I was just a kid and we had to as a matter of emergency vacate a company house since our dad was overseas for studies....we had actually NO WHERE TO GO! My mom's teaching colleague from Kagoro in Southern Kaduna lived i the Air Force Quarters in Jos and was neighbors with a single Yoruba lady. This single Yoruba lady (whom we came to know as Aunty Biola) was a passionate Pentecostal Christian (as a kid I did not even know what that meant) but she had a spare bedroom and was willing to accept my mom and her three young children to stay with her since she had a spare bedroom. We lived with this Aunty for three months at the Air Force Quarters until my mom found another place for us to move in to. No one is perfect. Only Jesus Christ is! There are still a few Christians who will honestly acknowledge their weaknesses and still do their best to follow the very example of Jesus Christ...despite what it might cost them. It is very very wrong of you to hastily make the type of conclusions you made about Christians and then proceed to take whatever superficial attitudes you get from Muslims as being the type of non-judgmental giving kindness that you seek.... Remember that when you make a deal with the devil...he will surely make you pay for it with your very soul in the end. I very much disagree with your assertions of who that Yerima of Zamfara is. This Sharia fanatic kickstarted the persistent rebellion during Obasanjo's time that eventually led to the madness of the various Islamic Terrorist groups we have today. Zamfara state has been in a state of war because of this...exporting this evil to other peaceful states elsewhere. Even my village. There was no single Fulani before the British came. Only after the British were a few allowed to come only for a certain season....and even with that, they needed a permit to be allowed to stay for that period. But over time these same herders began to take advantage of the kindness of their hosts. Doing all sorts of witchcraft, proclaiming curses, murdering people for water and land....and finally because of Buhari in 2015 invaded the village with Ak-47s and drive out the indigenous Christian villagers who were kind to them before...killing some. So tell me....what kind of kindness is that really? One moment, the guest muslim is inviting you to share a meal and making light conversation as if nothing is the matter. Only to cut off your head the next day so that he can claim your property and land? This is what happened.....and is happening. And this is the very definition of the "kindness" of Islam you have "fallen blindly" into.
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 6:19pm On Jun 21, 2022 |
J3susFr3ak:After you gloriously praised Canada kind gestures and attributed their kindness to Christianity/Christian , you then went tirade on Fulani Islam and Muslims as if Islam is responsible for so called Fulani miscreants. Let me tell you one thing. Canada did not accept you or extends their kindness to you because of religion or Christianity or Jesus. They don't believe in this. They do what they do based on their CONSTITUTION not based on Bible. What I noticed from you just now is that, it seems you agree there isn't good Christians in Nigeria because anytime I showed you charlatan Christians/pastors you are quick to say "they aren't perfect". It took you thousands of miles to Canada to find true CHRISTIANS  . Do you think rubbish Christians do in Nigeria exist in Canada and western world?. They dont have time for that nor do they do their kindness based on christianity but based on humanity and their "almighty constitution" . They don't give a damn what Bible says.Now, speaking about Christianity and kind gesture, the reason many of you are glued to churches and Christianity in Nigeria is due to lack of employment. If you have jobs you won't give a fig leaf about church. You guys pray too much but there is nothing to show for it. All the big and small companies in the 70s, 80s and even 90s are now converted to mega churches. Why there won't be unemployment?. Christians destroyed companies and factories and replaced them with churches. And then you pray in churches for employment ...no be juju be that?  Majority of Nigerians hired for professional jobs in the Middle East are Christians. Ask them to choose btw going to church on Sundays or go to work Sunday, they'd picked job instead of church. Unemployment is the reason y'all have time for church/Jesus in Nigeria. Read this short to experience kindness in the Muslim world https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02SM3Rmhvv9uVbUssKH2trFTkEHxafrnSTeADu7FHDszDcSW9dXSN5twznGkDmyoTbl&id=100000529153230 1 Like
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by J3susFr3ak: 3:46am On Jun 22, 2022 |
Empiree: You forgot the part I mentioned that when I was ten years old, a single YORUBA WOMAN working with the Airforce in Jos--took my mom and us (three kids) into her home because we were told to vacate a company house! We lived with her for THREE MONTHS! This Yoruba woman was a complete stranger to us....but only took us in because she was a passionate Christian! And with regards to the Canadians...there was absolutely NO REASON for these kind Christians to allow me live with them as I looked for a job after my Studies. It is not in their constitution for them to be kind to some African who is a stranger in their own land. Even their own fellow white Canadians would have been rejected by these same Christians--or told to go to a Homeless Shelter to seek a temporary emergency help. Yet I was kindly welcomed into their home and lived with them as a part of their own family. The only person who could allow this type of love and compassion in a human being's heart (with NO hidden agenda at all) is Jesus Christ Himself. I think you should learn to understand the difference between someone who labels themselves as Christian (yet has no relationship with Christ) and those who are genuinely Born Again Christians. So called Christians who are just Christians by name will definitely not take the Sunday worship seriously and would instead go and work for money on Sundays--as the article you shared suggested. Born again Christians will always choose Jesus Christ FIRST no matter what! I am sure you should know the very difference between someone who is really Born Again and passionate for Christ (the REAL Christians) and those who are not--or just lukewarm. I do want to invite you to give Jesus Christ another chance to prove His reality to you. Please overlook and ignore the foolish mistakes and whatever ignorant behavior you may have experienced in the past by those who may have claimed to be Christians but are not. Go to Jesus directly and personally TALK to Him about exactly how you feel and what is in your heart. Just ask Him to PROVE Himself to you and remove any doubt you may have had to make you run away to Islam. Jesus will definitely PROVE Himself to you if you pray to Him. Please do it....He does care about you. He did die for your soul and will not want to lose you.... |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 10:48am On Jun 22, 2022 |
J3susFr3ak:Mention just one example of a true "born again Christian" in Nigeria?. Famous one. Id Bishop Oyedepo a true born again Christian?. Show me in your bible where Jesus tells you to worship on Sunday? I do want to invite you to give Jesus Christ another chance to prove His reality to you. Please overlook and ignore the foolish mistakes and whatever ignorant behavior you may have experienced in the past by those who may have claimed to be Christians but are not. Go to Jesus directly and personally TALK to Him about exactly how you feel and what is in your heart. Just ask Him to PROVE Himself to you and remove any doubt you may have had to make you run away to Islam. Jesus will definitely PROVE Himself to you if you pray to Him. Please do it....He does care about you. He did die for your soul and will not want to lose you....I have told you to stop wasting your tie preaching to me. It seems you have no idea who you re talking to. Ask your fellow Christians I have dialogued with on this platform over the years. I know Jesus far more than you do. I am a Muslim scholar of the bible and I dont attach emotions when it coms to the truth. What you are doing is emotion which Christians are known for For us Muslims, it is the truth over emotions. See those highlights, they are against fundamental principles of Jesus that y ou claim you love. Jesus the son of Mary(peace be upon him) is no more than prophet and messanger of God. Period |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 10:58am On Jun 22, 2022 |
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by J3susFr3ak: 1:42am On Jun 30, 2022 |
Empiree: Jesus is the Son of God who came down to earth as a human being to DIE for your sins Empiree. Christians believe that EVERY reality--visible and invisible--was created by Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ. Christ Is Supreme "Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him. He existed before anything else, and he holds all creation together. Christ is also the head of the church, which is his body. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything. For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and through him God reconciled everything to himself. He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth by means of Christ’s blood on the cross. -- Colossians 1: 15 -20 By accepting this HARD REALITY by faith in Jesus Christ--it only proves Christians to be the most LOGICAL people on earth! Reality has a Divine Power that is only understood and is approachable through Jesus Christ our Lord. You try to accuse Christians of being emotional. Let me ask you a simple question? Are you a parent? A mother? If you as a parent can be logical with your children in the way you train them....will you also be mechanical and logical when you stand and watch something bad about to befall them? What kind of parent will claim to be so robotic and logical if they saw their baby in the middle of a busy road about to be crushed to death by a massive truck? Will you not shout and rush to save that child? And when you save that child will you not shout for joy? If your teenage daughter or son whom you have had a problem with finally decides to admit they were wrong and say sorry to you...will you not also be happy with joy in your heart? Who created emotions? Is it not God our Creator? And yet you expect God's children who have understood they are sinners and confessed their sins to Jesus Christ to be forgiven to be like dead robots when God through the Holy Spirit embraces them with the assurance that Jesus Christ has forgiven their sins? Empiree....only by accepting what Jesus Christ did on the Cross for you can your own sins be forgiven. Islamic rituals and chants CANNOT SAVE YOU. Many before you trusting in Islam have ended up in hell. You still have the chance to escape this destruction soon coming to this world. Only our Lord Jesus can save you. He is your only hope for eternal life...choose wisely. Choose Jesus.
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Antiislaam(m): 1:52am On Jun 30, 2022 |
Empiree: 1. Show us in your quran where allah tells you to worship five times a day? 2. Show us in your quran where allah tells you to have tahjud night? 3. Show us in your quran where allah tells you to have Asalatu on Sunday morning? Empiree: You know isa, if truly you know Jesus Christ you should know that he died and resurrected on the third day |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 2:12pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Antiislaam:it is not a bad idea to educate you over and over again. I am sure I discussed this subject few times in the past but it doesn't hurt to teach you again. Chapter 30 Surah Rum ayat 17: "So, glorify Allah in the evening and the morning; praise is due to Him alone in the heavens and the earth: and (glorify Him) in the afternoon and at the declining of the day". (implies Fajr, Magrib, Dhuhr and Asr) As you can see 4 obligatory Salat are already mentioned here. “Chapter 11, Surah Hud ayat 114: "Establish the Salat at the two ends of the day and in the early part of the night". (implies Fajr, Magrib and Isha). As you can see the 5th Salat is mentioned in this verse 2. Show us in your quran where allah tells you to have tahjud night?Tahajjud, also known as the "night prayer" or what Christians called "vigil", is a voluntary prayer performed by followers of Islam. It is not one of the five obligatory prayers required of all Muslims, Q17:79 Wa minal laili fatahajjad bihee naafilatal laka ‘asaaa any yab’asaka Rabbuka Maqaamam Mahmoodaa So you see tahajjud is mentioned in this verse. Now let's translate for you. "And in some parts of the night (also) offer the Salat (prayer) with it (i.e. recite the Quran in the prayer), as an additional prayer (Tahajjud optional prayer Nawafil). It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqaman Mahmuda (a station of praise and glory, i.e. the highest degree in Paradise!)." 3. Show us in your quran where allah tells you to have [b]Asalatu on Sunday morning? [/bThere is no restriction when it comes to nawafil. Sunday assalatu is nawafil. In Islam, a nafl prayer (Arabic: صلاة نفل, ṣalāt al-nafl) or supererogatory prayer, also called as Nawafil Prayers, is a type of optional Muslim salah (formal worship). As with sunnah prayer, they are not considered obligatory but are thought to confer extra benefit on the person performing them. No day is forbidden to do nawafil You know isa, if truly you know Jesus Christ you should know that he died and resurrected on the third dayscam |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Antiislaam(m): 11:22pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Empiree: You and this your taqqiya sha. You are too ignorant of what you belief In the Quran, there’s is no direct naming of the five prayers. It does not say pray Fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Isha salah. Stop lying for allah here Empiree: So according to your Chief imam fatahajjad which means to arise from sleep for prayer is the same as vigil which is the period of darkness each 24 hours between sunset and sunrise, as distinct from day right? Empiree: I think you go school and you can read, The question says show us in your quran where allah tells you to have Asalatu on Sunday morning? Empiree: Why won't you called it scam, your isa is different from Jesus Christ that died and resurrected the same way your islamic allah is different from Arab Christian Allah that has a son as you are been tutored by my Christian's brothers |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 12:44am On Jul 01, 2022 |
Antiislaam:mtcheeww
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| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Antiislaam(m): 3:39am On Jul 01, 2022 |
Empiree: We'll make sure you learn by force by fire |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05am On Jul 01, 2022 |
The problem the world has today began when religion and politics started working hand in hand! Throughout the whole world there was no nation where religion has a say in politics until God formed His own nation (Israel) Religionists were only consulted when they're needed to solve problems having to do with their field and afterwards they are disengaged to be called some other times, that's why there are different gods and shrines so if what affects the city has to do with Èṣù, Ṣàngó, Ọya or any other god the King and chiefs will call on the priest of the god in question and after the service they no longer have anything to do with the political affairs of the city. But when God formed his own nation it was built on spiritually first and no kings. So that's what Satan later introduced to other nations but instead of having rules that will prevent the people from hurting one another Satan only demands worship and nothing more but insisting on having a say in the political affairs of the nations. Well different priests will like to become close confidants of the king so each will be fighting to gain attention, that's what is happening in the world today. God only introduced that when he formed that nation (Israel) but since they choose to have human kings God allowed them have their way and ever since then that nation started having issues until God finally condemned them! Today there is no nation in a geographical location where God is interested in their politics so if you see any religion interfering in politics know that demons are at work, that's why there's killings in one place after another! Revelations 6:3-4  1 Like |
| Re: Christianity And Intolerance by Empiree: 11:16am On Jul 01, 2022 |
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