Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?

sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?

Nope. Pretty good summary of the unspeakable inanity some imagine to be elevated spirituality.
Most comically, people who believe this infantile nonsensical hogwash will actually shake their heads in pompous pity at sensible people who dont.

sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?

Wrong!

Christ Followership 101 is "Turn Away from the Roads that lead to death!"

DeepSight:


Nope. Pretty good summary of the unspeakable inanity some imagine to be elevated spirituality.
Most comically, people who believe this infantile nonsensical hogwash will actually shake their heads in pompous pity at sensible people who dont.

It's quite interesting how those of you who claim not to believe the Bible are always the ones go derangically berserk as cockroaches in the light when the Bible is raised up.

Dtruthspeaker:


derangically

There is no such word as this.

Dtruthspeaker:


Wrong!

Christ Followership 101 is "Turn Away from the Roads that lead to death!"

Which road does not?

Go only gave us the Torah to enjoy life before it comes..
Not waste it believing absurdities...

DeepSight:


There is no such word as this.

Don't mind him.

He is trying so hard to be smart. But deep down his scrotum he knows the idea is bull shiit.

sonmvayina:


Which road does not?

Go only gave us the Torah to enjoy life before it comes..
Not waste it believing absurdities...

Your Choice!

DeepSight:


There is no such word as this.

There was not a word as deranged before!

Dtruthspeaker:


There was not a word as deranged before!

Deranged, yes, derangically, never.

DeepSight:


Deranged, yes, derangically, never.

Dtruthspeaker is right and you are arguing wrongingly.

Words are sounds that refer to things or events in the world that one person is trying to communicate to another. The words make up language which is not set in stone but evolves. So “derangically” may not be correct grammar at the moment, but given the right circumstances, it can become part of the lexicon. I’m not endorsing his use of language but just pointing out that he communicated clearly albeit he writes in “derangically” style

“The lonely bandit dwindled in front of the critic.” is a sentence that uses “real” words but once upon a time it was gibberish.

KnownUnknown:


Dtruthspeaker is right and you are arguing wrongingly.

Words are sounds that refer to things or events in the world that one person is trying to communicate to another. The words make up language which is not set in stone but evolves. So “derangically” may not be correct grammar at the moment, but given the right circumstances, it can become part of the lexicon. I’m not endorsing his use of language but just pointing out that he communicated clearly albeit he writes in “derangically” style

“The lonely bandit dwindled in front of the critic.” is a sentence that uses “real” words but once upon a time it was gibberish.

I am no stranger to the evolution of language or the creation of words and dare say I have spawned a few myself. However "derangically" is just horrible and twisted to the eye, ear and tongue.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your Choice!

We are all going to die one day....nobody is leaving this planet alive. But before it comes I am enjoying it by following the laws and commandments of my creator. Not believing absurdities like you.....

Grow up man. You are not a dummy.

Back to the matter...

What is Christians idea of salvation

sonmvayina:

We are all going to die one day....nobody is leaving this planet alive. But before it comes I am enjoying it by following the laws and commandments of my creator. Not believing absurdities like you.....

Grow up man. You are not a dummy.

If you are so dim sighted that you do not see that all whom you think are dead, are not dead but only sleep and that men have not died the death which God decreed, that is your own emptiness.

it is after all your own existence and living you choose waste and not mine.

DeepSight:


I am no stranger to the evolution of language or the creation of words and dare say I have spawned a few myself. However "derangically" is just horrible and twisted to the eye, ear and tongue.

The world does not instructions from you. The mere fact that the words I elected to apply is unpleasant to your sensibilities does not mean that It was was wrongly utilised. So you have no case.

sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?

I keep wondering what exactly is the connection with this paganic nonsensical bullcrap with Judaism which it claims to stem from.
The two religions are polar opposites.

BeLookingIDIOT:

I keep wondering what exactly is the connection with this paganic nonsensical bullcrap with Judaism which it claims to stem from.
The two religions are polar opposites.

It is interesting that someone chose to call the Christian foundations "Judah-ism" instead of "Isaacism" or "Jacobism".

Secondly, it is already self evident that Nature is God's Hand in Action so there is no way that any course towards God would not be natural which evil people would readily call "paganism".

Well, these are the days of the fulfillment of the prophecy on blasphemies and evil speakings.

BeLookingIDIOT:

I keep wondering what exactly is the connection with this paganic nonsensical bullcrap with Judaism which it claims to stem from.
The two religions are polar opposites.

They are . The romans added the so called NT to the Jewish tanakh to make it sellable. Just so they can sell it to gullible people..

Dtruthspeaker:


If you are so dim sighted that you do not see that all whom you think are dead, are not dead but only sleep and that men have not died the death which God decreed, that is your own emptiness.

it is after all your own existence and living you choose waste and not mine.

You are really a dummy..sorry to say

God said from dust you where made and to dust you shall return. What else did he say...

sonmvayina:


You are really a dummy..sorry to say

God said from dust you where made and to dust you shall return. What else did he say...

You are as moronic as you have always being else you would have known that, that statement is also futurely implementable.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are as moronic as you have always being else you would have known that, that statement is also futurely implementable.

Lol..shows how unintelligent you are....

You are not God.. so whatever evil you Harbour or believe won't come to pass..

sonmvayina:


Lol..shows how unintelligent you are....

You are not God.. so whatever evil you Harbour or believe won't come to pass..

That is how vacuumy and so far evil you are such that you do not recognise God's Words at all.

Dtruthspeaker:


. . . that statement is also futurely implementable.

Hmmm.

sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..

Did I miss any bit?

John 3:16-21
16“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world,
that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son,
so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17For God did not send the Son into the world
to judge and condemn the world. [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world],
but that the world might be saved through Him
18Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged
[for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation];
but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord]
is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced],
because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God
[the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him].
19This is the judgment [that is, the cause for indictment, the test by which people are judged, the basis for the sentence]:
the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20For every wrongdoer hates the Light, and does not come to the Light
[but shrinks from it] for fear that his [sinful, worthless] activities will be exposed and condemned.
21But whoever practices truth [and does what is right--morally, ethically, spiritually] comes to the Light,
so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--accomplished in God
[divinely prompted, done with God’s help, in dependence on Him].”

Nope, you didnt miss any bit, loll, you did get it bang on the money, that salvation basically in the Christian religion, is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father, for God the Father to save man...

Your introduction post, not only feebly tried to wreckognise, loll, God's powerful performance executed winning formula plan of redemption, salvation and reconciliation of souls back to Him along with in view, bringing to end sin, sickness, poverty, diseases, misery, weeping, poverty, oppression, discrimination, inequality, unfairness, and even the last enemy, death, but worse on, went on to twist God's powerful performance executed winning formula plan of redemption, salvation and reconciliation, as to be, that anathematised Constantine invention aka Christian religion, loll

Learning expands the souls. You have quite a lot learning to do brother. In thinking you're damaging the character of God, you damage your own. First missed step Adam did with his character, loll.

Remember on the DeepSight other thread, when I said that 'so wouldnt a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles know where to start'? Well, the thing about the chameleon is that, it tries changing its colour to match the skittles, not knowing that the skittles dont change colour to match the chameleon. loll. There'll be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I bet you'll sooner or later, again, say Shalom, without knowing that there can be no peace without understanding. loll.

Now underline the following closing words, loll. If you and DeepSight or any other person(s) for that matter too, disbelieve - indeed, God is free from need of you and the other partners in cahoot with you, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

DeepSight:
[s]Nope. Pretty good summary of the unspeakable inanity some imagine to be elevated spirituality.
Most comically, people who believe this infantile nonsensical hogwash will actually shake their heads in pompous pity at sensible people who dont.[/s]

DeepSight, brother, now you're older, where you've found yourself sat at, shows where you stood in youth, loll.

There is always room outside the box, look at John 3:16-21, there's loads of room inside it, loll.

Dtruthspeaker:
It's quite interesting how those of you who claim not to believe the Bible are always the ones go derangically berserk as cockroaches in the light when the Bible is raised up.

Obstinacy does not redeem anyone.
Its true that, what you learn, is what you die with and he who can't dance, will say, ‘The drum is bad!'

DeepSight:
There is no such word as this.

There always is going to be a first time for anything.

Paul invented these two portmanteau words: 'arsenokoites' and 'arsenokoitai', before there were no such words as 'arsenokoites' which is singular nor 'arsenokoitai' that is plural

Are you going to turn your nose up at wreckognise too, loll, just you did at 'derangically' as used by Dtruthspeaker?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
John 3:16-21
16“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world,
that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son,
so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17For God did not send the Son into the world
to judge and condemn the world. [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world],
but that the world might be saved through Him
18Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged
[for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation];
but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord]
is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced],
because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God
[the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him].
19This is the judgment [that is, the cause for indictment, the test by which people are judged, the basis for the sentence]:
the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20For every wrongdoer hates the Light, and does not come to the Light
[but shrinks from it] for fear that his [sinful, worthless] activities will be exposed and condemned.
21But whoever practices truth [and does what is right--morally, ethically, spiritually] comes to the Light,
so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--accomplished in God
[divinely prompted, done with God’s help, in dependence on Him].”

Nope, you didnt miss any bit, loll, you did get it bang on the money, that salvation basically in the Christian religion, is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father, for God the Father to save man...

Your introduction post, not only feebly tried to wreckognise, loll, God's powerful performance executed winning formula plan of redemption, salvation and reconciliation of souls back to Him along with in view, bringing to end sin, sickness, poverty, diseases, misery, weeping, poverty, oppression, discrimination, inequality, unfairness, and even the last enemy, death, but worse on, went on to twist God's powerful performance executed winning formula plan of redemption, salvation and reconciliation, as to be, that anathematised Constantine invention aka Christian religion, loll

Learning expands the souls. You have quite a lot learning to do brother. In thinking you're damaging the character of God, you damage your own. First missed step Adam did with his character, loll.

Remember on the DeepSight other thread, when I said that 'so wouldnt a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles know where to start'? Well, the thing about the chameleon is that, it tries changing its colour to match the skittles, not knowing that the skittles dont change colour to match the chameleon. loll. There'll be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I bet you'll sooner or later, again, say Shalom, without knowing that there can be no peace without understanding. loll.

Now underline the following closing words, loll. If you and DeepSight or any other person(s) for that matter too, disbelieve - indeed, God is free from need of you and the other partners in cahoot with you, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I could not make heads or tails of your post.

What are you talking about.
Can you quote old testament passages to support your view or Christianity POV.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is how vacuumy and so far evil you are such that you do not recognise God's Words at all.

You believe he is going to burn people forever in hell fire, something he never said or even imagined.

And I thank God you are not his adviser.


So I am safe.

NNTR you make a grave mistake my equating jesus(a Roman idol) to God the creator of the universe. Desist from such idea...Before he smite you.

There is only one creator, he only gave us laws and commandments to keep and when we miss the mark(sin) he ask us to confess and forsake and he will forgive and restore. I don't know where you got the idea that a human blood sacrifice was required or necessary...

Where did you get the idea in the Tanakh?

sonmvayina:
I could not make heads or tails of your post.

I didnt think you will, loll.

sonmvayina:
What are you talking about.

That your contribution betrays how you havent proper nor correct knowledge on the subject you opened the thread for.

sonmvayina:
Can you quote old testament passages to support your view

I've already done

sonmvayina:
or Christianity POV.

That when you left Christianity you jumped out of the cooking pot into the fireplace, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

sonmvayina:
NNTR you make a grave mistake my equating jesus(a Roman idol) to God the creator of the universe. Desist from such idea...Before he smite you.

There is only one creator, he only gave us laws and commandments to keep and when we miss the mark(sin) he ask us to confess and forsake and he will forgive and restore. I don't know where you got the idea that a human blood sacrifice was required or necessary...

Where did you get the idea in the Tanakh?

The proto evangelium (i.e. Genesis 3:15)
- from portmanteau Greek word, 'protos' and 'evangelion', where protos meaning 'first' and evangelion means 'good news' or 'gospel'

Isaiah 59:16
He saw that there was no one, He was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
so His own arm achieved salvation for Him, and His own righteousness sustained Him.

I can give you more from where those two names from, but them two should suffice to sweeten you up enough, loll

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
I didnt think you will, loll.

That your contribution betrays how you havent proper nor correct knowledge on the subject you opened the thread for.

I've already done

That when you left Christianity you jumped out of the cooking pot into the fireplace, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Please quote old testament passages where God said he will send his son as a sacrifice to him. I will wait. I don't want conjectures or your opinion. Just show me the passages I will read them myself...

Thanks in advance