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Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:13am On Mar 28, 2022
9JAFULLBREED:
Here u go

First taking alcohol as medication is very different from taking it as a drink. So when the bible speaks of wine for the stomach, it was talking about medicine. In the same light, cannabis, cocaine, heroin, and fentanyl all have medical uses yet we don't take them for recreation.

No to my question, are you saying an alcoholic is a sinner?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:19am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:


It's straightforward. If you chose to drink but you can't control your drinking, you should stop before you become dependent and addicted to alcohol.

Drunkenness is a sin. If you were not an alcoholic, but you maybe one day drank too much and became drunk, it's a sin. Control your drinking and if you couldn't, stop drinking before it becomes addiction.

If alcoholics drink and don't drink to stupor, then it's not a sin but I don't think that's possible because every alcoholic I know get drunk.

Is there some kind of surgery and drugs to treat and cure alcoholism?
Did you know that about 5.3 million people die of alcohol-related deaths each year? Now, most of these deaths are not a result of drunkenness but rather a result of alcohol intake. If someone dies from taking sniper, is it a sin? Alcohol kills more people than sniper each year

A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters. All thanks to Jehovah!
What are you saying, how can you stop what you can't control?
Is there some kind of surgery and drugs to treat and cure alcoholism?
the treatment is not surgical. There are detox and other methods to stop alcohol dependence. There are medications for withdrawal. You can check that up.
If alcoholism is treatable, can other sins be cured by modern medicine?
The biggest problem about alcohol is not getting drunk rather it is what it does to the body over time.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:23am On Mar 28, 2022
9JAFULLBREED:
Here u go

Again, the verse you quoted mentioned only wine, is beer and spirit also good for the stomach? Did you know that 1 out of every 20 deaths in the world is alcohol-related? These people did not die of drunkenness but of health problems related to alcohol consumption. The biggest problem about alcohol is not getting drunk rather it is what it does to the body over time.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 1:32am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:

What are you saying, how can you stop what you can't control?
Is there some kind of surgery and drugs to treat and cure alcoholism?
the treatment is not surgical. There are detox and other methods to stop alcohol dependence. There are medications for withdrawal. You can check that up.
If alcoholism is treatable, can other sins be cured by modern medicine?
Do you know that medications for withdrawal could lead to another addiction?

Drunkenness is a sin. If alcoholics are drunkards, they are sinning too.

A guy couldn't drive a car, he entered the car, started the engine and later had an accident. Who's to be blamed?
If he couldn't drive the car, why did he enter it in the first place?

If you can't control your drinking, stop drinking altogether and if you can't stop by yourself, seek help.


A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters. All thanks to Jehovah!


May you have peace!
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:37am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:

Do you know that medications for withdrawal could lead to another addiction?

Drunkenness is a sin. If alcoholics are drunkards, they are sinning too.

A guy couldn't drive a car, he entered the car, started the engine and later had an accident. Who's to be blamed?
If he couldn't drive the car, why did he enter it in the first place?

If you can't control your drinking, stop drinking altogether and if you can't stop by yourself, seek help.


A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters. All thanks to Jehovah!


May you have peace!
Do you know that medications for withdrawal could lead to another addiction?
I think you should do some study here. Withdrawal medications are not addictive. Please if you want me to send you a list of common withdrawal medications, I would so you can study to find out if they are addictive.
About alcoholism being a sin, let's just agree that sin is treatable by modern medication. This way you are also correct.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:40am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:

Do you know that medications for withdrawal could lead to another addiction?

Drunkenness is a sin. If alcoholics are drunkards, they are sinning too.

A guy couldn't drive a car, he entered the car, started the engine and later had an accident. Who's to be blamed?
If he couldn't drive the car, why did he enter it in the first place?

If you can't control your drinking, stop drinking altogether and if you can't stop by yourself, seek help.


[b]A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters. All thanks to Jehovah
![/b]

May you have peace!
Yes Jesus also cured many diseases. Curing disease via spiritual means is not new. Yet must people still depend on medical cure so if your pastor can cure alcoholism, good for him. It does not stop the great work doctors are doing.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:55am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:

Do you know that medications for withdrawal could lead to another addiction?

Drunkenness is a sin. If alcoholics are drunkards, they are sinning too.

A guy couldn't drive a car, he entered the car, started the engine and later had an accident. Who's to be blamed?
If he couldn't drive the car, why did he enter it in the first place?

If you can't control your drinking, stop drinking altogether and if you can't stop by yourself, seek help.


A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters. All thanks to Jehovah!


May you have peace!
If I asked, is drinking sniper a sin or taking poison a sin, you probably would have said yes. Alcohol is poison to the liver and kidneys but unlike sniper, it works over a period of time. It does not destroy only the livers and kidneys of those who get drunk rather it poisons after a prolonged period of use.
So if we are allowed to destroy our bodies then alcohol isn't a sin but if we would give an account of what we did with our bodies, then poisoning the liver is a sin.
On the other hand, Alcoholism is a state where the body depends on alcohol in other to function normally. It's a medical state with a medical and professional solution. Alcoholism is not caused by drunkenness rather, it leads to drunkenness.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 1:56am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:
Yes Jesus also cured many diseases. Curing disease via spiritual means is not new. Yet must people still depend on medical cure so if your pastor can cure alcoholism, good for him. It does not stop the great work doctors are doing.

They are trying.
There are doctors and scientists among the JWs (Jehovah witnesses and they don't have pastors). JWs takes medications.

So what's your point gangan?
Are you comparing God's power to doctors limited ability?
Abi doctors can raise a patient that died because of their incapability back to life?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 2:00am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:


They are trying.
There are doctors and scientists among the JWs (Jehovah witnesses and they don't have pastors). JWs takes medications.

So what's your point gangan?
Are you comparing God's power to doctors limited ability?
Abi doctors can raise a patient that died because of their incapability back to life?
We are making the same point. You now explained that it's doctors that heal alcoholism. that makes it a disease and no longer a sin. Doctors don't cure sin.
I am not comparing God to doctors. Medical knowledge also comes from God
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:03am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:

If I asked, is drinking sniper a sin or taking poison a sin, you probably would have said yes. Alcohol is poison to the liver and kidneys but unlike sniper, it works over a period of time. It does not destroy only the livers and kidneys of those who get drunk rather it poisons after a prolonged period of use.
So if we are allowed to destroy our bodies then alcohol isn't a sin but if we would give an account of what we did with our bodies, then poisoning the liver is a sin.
On the other hand, Alcoholism is a state where the body depends on alcohol in other to function normally. It's a medical state with a medical and professional solution. Alcoholism is not caused by drunkenness rather, it leads to drunkenness.

Anything we do that is harmful to us is a sin.
But consuming alcohol on a moderate level is not harmful and not a sin.
People are different from each other. Just a little intake of alcohol could cause some people health problems. It's better for them to stop.

I don't drink myself. I occasionally drink palmwine though because I like the taste.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:10am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:

We are making the same point. You now explained that it's doctors that heal alcoholism. that makes it a disease and no longer a sin. Doctors don't cure sin.
I am not comparing God to doctors. Medical knowledge also comes from God

Drunkenness is a sin.
I never said only doctor heals alcoholism.

A lot of alcoholics among JWs have been helped to quit alcohol consumption by their brothers and sisters with God's word. All thanks to Jehovah!

My conclusion is if every alcoholic drinks to stupor, get drunk, thus alcoholism is both a sin (biblical) and a disease (medical).
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 2:11am On Mar 28, 2022
cornelboy:


Anything we do that is harmful to us is a sin.
But consuming alcohol on a moderate level is not harmful and not a sin.
People are different from each other. Just a little intake of alcohol could cause some people health problems. It's better for them to stop.

I don't drink myself. I occasionally drink palmwine though because I like the taste.
But consuming alcohol on a moderate level is not harmful and not a sin.
Sir, you are wrong and I would give you reasons why.
1. What is your definition of moderation? How much alcohol is too much. No doctor or scientist has ever defined what moderate alcohol means.
2. Alcohol's effect is long-term so even if you drink little, it has a cumulative effect.
3. As you said, people are different and a little alcohol can cause health problems for some people; the danger is, no one knows the amount of alcohol that can cause harm to themselves. There is no instrument for measuring. So each time you take alcohol, you put your body is an unnecessary risk.
4. The health problems from alcohol have little to do with drunkenness.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:11am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:

If I asked, is drinking sniper a sin or taking poison a sin, you probably would have said yes. Alcohol is poison to the liver and kidneys but unlike sniper, it works over a period of time. It does not destroy only the livers and kidneys of those who get drunk rather it poisons after a prolonged period of use.
So if we are allowed to destroy our bodies then alcohol isn't a sin but if we would give an account of what we did with our bodies, then poisoning the liver is a sin.
On the other hand, Alcoholism is a state where the body depends on alcohol in other to function normally. It's a medical state with a medical and professional solution. Alcoholism is not caused by drunkenness rather, it leads to drunkenness.
What's the cause of the disease, alcoholism?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:17am On Mar 28, 2022
tctrills:

But consuming alcohol on a moderate level is not harmful and not a sin.
Sir, you are wrong and I would give you reasons why.
1. What is your definition of moderation? How much alcohol is too much. No doctor or scientist has ever defined what moderate alcohol means.
2. Alcohol's effect is long-term so even if you drink little, it has a cumulative effect.
3. As you said, people are different and a little alcohol can cause health problems for some people; the danger is, no one knows the amount of alcohol that can cause harm to themselves. There is no instrument for measuring. So each time you take alcohol, you put your body is an unnecessary risk.
4. The health problems from alcohol have little to do with drunkenness.


If that's it, then everyone should quit drinking.

You don't need to drink 5 bottles na like unwise people do today.

You do have to drink it everyday as well.

Doctors themselves drink alcohol.

A cup won't stress the kidney or liver.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 12:09am On Mar 30, 2022
cornelboy:


If that's it, then everyone should quit drinking.

You don't need to drink 5 bottles na like unwise people do today.

You do have to drink it everyday as well.

Doctors themselves drink alcohol.

A cup won't stress the kidney or liver.
Bro, we can't afford to be naive... We have seen many doctors commit suicide, we have seen doctors engage in unprotected sex. We know doctors who are overweight yet they refuse to excises and eat right. We know doctors who died from drug overdose. Just because your doctor does it does not make it right.
These days, you don't need to be a doctor to access the best health journals and to have the latest knowledge about alcohol.
And you are wrong, a cup would stress your liver. It most likely would not kill you but the overtime accumulation has an effect.
Also, if you have tendencies for alcoholism, a cup or two would finally get you hooked on drinking.
Alcohol is a poison. It kills 1 in every 20 people. It is more potent than war.
True I would not kill every user, but you can never say because you can't see inside your body. It's just like the game of Russian roulette. You can never tell the effect of the next bottle.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:27am On Mar 30, 2022
tctrills:

Bro, we can't afford to be naive... We have seen many doctors commit suicide, we have seen doctors engage in unprotected sex. We know doctors who are overweight yet they refuse to excises and eat right. We know doctors who died from drug overdose. Just because your doctor does it does not make it right.
These days, you don't need to be a doctor to access the best health journals and to have the latest knowledge about alcohol.
And you are wrong, a cup would stress your liver. It most likely would not kill you but the overtime accumulation has an effect.
Also, if you have tendencies for alcoholism, a cup or two would finally get you hooked on drinking.
Alcohol is a poison. It kills 1 in every 20 people. It is more potent than war.
True I would not kill every user, but you can never say because you can't see inside your body. It's just like the game of Russian roulette. You can never tell the effect of the next bottle.

1. Is alcoholism different from alcohol addiction?
2. What are the causes of alcoholism disease?
3. What are the symptoms?
4. Do you know the meaning of naïve? Are doctors naïve? Why do they still drink?
5. Is moderate intake of palmwine harmful to the liver?

6. What is your motive for creating this thread?
Do you wanna prove that alcoholism is a disease not sin or you wanna enlighten people to quit drinking or your catching fun as usual?

I'll give you a well balanced post about alcohol from the JW library, Enjoy Life Forever.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 10:27am On Mar 30, 2022
cornelboy:


1. Is alcoholism different from alcohol addiction?
2. What are the causes of alcoholism disease?
3. What are the symptoms?
4. Do you know the meaning of naïve? Are doctors naïve? Why do they still drink?
5. Is moderate intake of palmwine harmful to the liver?

6. What is your motive for creating this thread?
Do you wanna prove that alcoholism is a disease not sin or you wanna enlighten people to quit drinking or your catching fun as usual?

I'll give you a well balanced post about alcohol from the JW library, Enjoy Life Forever.
Too many questions here let me start from the last. You are right, I am always about fun and education. so I enlighten and have fun at the same time.
To the next question, can you define moderate drinking? Did you know that a bottle of palm wine has a higher alcoholic content than beer?
To the next question, I wasn't talking about doctors being naive. Drinking does not make one naive. Rather I was referring to the belive that because doctors drink then it must be great for their health. If you see a doctor smoking, would you conclude that smoking is great? Because I have a few doctor friends who smoke.
If you see a doctor always eating junk food would that be the excuse for eating junk? You can't be that naive to think that anything doctors do must be correct.
Now to your questions about alcoholism, I would live you with a link or two so you can read from those with more authority than myself.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alcohol-use-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20369243
https://www.healthline.com/health/alcoholism/basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5DxD6Tuxxw&vl=en

About moderate drinking, let me quote from the CDC. The CDC is the biggest drug and health administrator in the US

The Guidelines note, “Emerging evidence suggests that even drinking within the recommended limits may increase the overall risk of death from various causes, such as from several types of cancer and some forms of cardiovascular disease. Alcohol has been found to increase risk for cancer, and for some types of cancer, the risk increases even at low levels of alcohol consumption (less than 1 drink in a day).”4
Although past studies have indicated that moderate alcohol consumption has protective health benefits (e.g., reducing risk of heart disease), recent studies show this may not be true.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 2:57pm On Mar 30, 2022
tctrills:

Too many questions here let me start from the last. You are right, I am always about fun and education. so I enlighten and have fun at the same time.
To the next question, can you define moderate drinking? Did you know that a bottle of palm wine has a higher alcoholic content than beer?
To the next question, I wasn't talking about doctors being naive. Drinking does not make one naive. Rather I was referring to the belive that because doctors drink then it must be great for their health. If you see a doctor smoking, would you conclude that smoking is great? Because I have a few doctor friends who smoke.
If you see a doctor always eating junk food would that be the excuse for eating junk? You can't be that naive to think that anything doctors do must be correct.
Now to your questions about alcoholism, I would live you with a link or two so you can read from those with more authority than myself.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alcohol-use-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20369243
https://www.healthline.com/health/alcoholism/basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5DxD6Tuxxw&vl=en

About moderate drinking, let me quote from the CDC. The CDC is the biggest drug and health administrator in the US

The Guidelines note, “Emerging evidence suggests that even drinking within the recommended limits may increase the overall risk of death from various causes, such as from several types of cancer and some forms of cardiovascular disease. Alcohol has been found to increase risk for cancer, and for some types of cancer, the risk increases even at low levels of alcohol consumption (less than 1 drink in a day).”4
Although past studies have indicated that moderate alcohol consumption has protective health benefits (e.g., reducing risk of heart disease), recent studies show this may not be true.

From the Bible point of view, moderate consumption is not bad. It's not a sin.

People are addicted to many things not just alcohol.
What's your personal conclusion?

Do you drink?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 6:02pm On Mar 30, 2022
cornelboy:


From the Bible point of view, moderate consumption is not bad. It's not a sin.

People are addicted to many things not just alcohol.
What's your personal conclusion?

Do you drink?
The bible teaches that drunkenness is wrong, what about those that can take much alcohol without getting drunk does that make it right? It's wrong to take in poison no matter how little since we can't tell how much is exactly too much. Don't tempt the Lord your God.
From the bible's point of view, we should take good care of our bodies. if we knowingly destroy our bodies, it is a big sin. The body is not your own. So now you know that even moderate drinking can harm your body, would it be right to continue your moderate drinking?
Now to conclude... Alcoholism itself is not a sin but a disease. But then the only sure way to escape alcoholism is by never drinking in the first place so the body does not create a dependence on it.
Now drinking in itself is another thing. To anyone who knows the truth and refuses to obey, to him, it is sin. After learning that alcohol is dangerous to the body, it would be wrong to continue drinking.
Alcohol kills more people than heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl combined. It's a subtle killer.
You said people are addicted to many things; true but some drugs are known for their addictive properties. Alcohol is one such drug.
Finally, you asked if I drink. personally, I don't like discussing my personal life in public forums so forgive me if I do not answer your question. And it doesnt only kill addicts or drunks.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 11:12pm On Mar 30, 2022
tctrills:

The bible teaches that drunkenness is wrong, what about those that can take much alcohol without getting drunk does that make it right? It's wrong to take in poison no matter how little since we can't tell how much is exactly too much. Don't tempt the Lord your God.
From the bible's point of view, we should take good care of our bodies. if we knowingly destroy our bodies, it is a big sin. The body is not your own. So now you know that even moderate drinking can harm your body, would it be right to continue your moderate drinking?
Now to conclude... Alcoholism itself is not a sin but a disease. But then the only sure way to escape alcoholism is by never drinking in the first place so the body does not create a dependence on it.
Now drinking in itself is another thing. To anyone who knows the truth and refuses to obey, to him, it is sin. After learning that alcohol is dangerous to the body, it would be wrong to continue drinking.
Alcohol kills more people than heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl combined. It's a subtle killer.
You said people are addicted to many things; true but some drugs are known for their addictive properties. Alcohol is one such drug.
Finally, you asked if I drink. personally, I don't like discussing my personal life in public forums so forgive me if I do not answer your question. And it doesnt only kill addicts or drunks.
Your small post here can't stop factories from producing alcohol and people from consuming.
The Bible only teaches that drunkenness is sin.
I like palmwine and no one can stope from drinking it.
Not everyone is a glutton and a drunkard.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 3:43am On Mar 31, 2022
cornelboy:

Your small post here can't stop factories from producing alcohol and people from consuming.
The Bible only teaches that drunkenness is sin.
I like palmwine and no one can stope from drinking it.
Not everyone is a glutton and a drunkard.
You are right about my post, we really can't change the world we can only change ourselves.
And yes again I can't stop you from drinking, I can only make you aware of the damage alcohol does to your body. And if you value your body as a gift from God, it's up to you to make the hard decisions. Palmwine is more alcoholic than beer.
You don't need to be a drunk to have alcohol-induced health issues. As long as you drink, your health is at risk.
Alcohol is an irritant to all body tissue, from where it comes in to where it goes out. Alcohol does kill brain cells. Some of those cells can be regenerated over time. In the meantime, the existing nerve cells branch out to compensate for the lost functions.
Finally, you can live a happy life without alcohol. You don't need to drink to find happiness.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 12:37pm On Mar 31, 2022
tctrills:

You are right about my post, we really can't change the world we can only change ourselves.
And yes again I can't stop you from drinking, I can only make you aware of the damage alcohol does to your body. And if you value your body as a gift from God, it's up to you to make the hard decisions. Palmwine is more alcoholic than beer.
You don't need to be a drunk to have alcohol-induced health issues. As long as you drink, your health is at risk.
Alcohol is an irritant to all body tissue, from where it comes in to where it goes out. Alcohol does kill brain cells. Some of those cells can be regenerated over time. In the meantime, the existing nerve cells branch out to compensate for the lost functions.
Finally, you can live a happy life without alcohol. You don't need to drink to find happiness.
Well, Jesus drank vinegar and wine in the Bible. He is the wonderful counsellor and he knows more than anybody in the world.

Alcohol dependence is a form of alcohol addiction.

Imperfect humans get addicted to many things today.

The Bible is the best guide on that.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 12:57pm On Mar 31, 2022
cornelboy:

Well, Jesus drank vinegar and wine in the Bible. He is the wonderful counsellor and he knows more than anybody in the world.

Alcohol dependence is a form of alcohol addiction.

Imperfect humans get addicted to many things today.

The Bible is the best guide on that.
Actually, the bible is not the best health guide. In the days of Jesus, the science on alcohol was very little. For example, the bible taught, don't get drunk but now we know that alcohol is dangerous even if we don't get drunk.
Yes, alcohol dependence is alcohol addiction, it's a disease but if we never take alcohol in the first place, we would be free from that disease. Why tempt god and expose ourselves to the disease. Anyway I guess we have both exshusted our points on the subject or do you have any new light to shed?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 1:18pm On Mar 31, 2022
cornelboy:

Well, Jesus drank vinegar and wine in the Bible. He is the wonderful counsellor and he knows more than anybody in the world.

Alcohol dependence is a form of alcohol addiction.

Imperfect humans get addicted to many things today.

The Bible is the best guide on that.
2000 years ago, it was believed that alcohol was bad only when you get drunk. Today, you and I know better. Is it wisdom to live by the health code of 2000 years ago or by the present knowledge on ground? If we claim that we would stick to the 2000 years old facts then clearly, we should use the bible as the guide when it comes to tobacco, cocaine, heroin, and other drugs. Remember, with the exception of tobacco, alcohol kills more people than all these other drugs combined.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 12:55pm On Apr 06, 2022
tctrills:

2000 years ago, it was believed that alcohol was bad only when you get drunk. Today, you and I know better. Is it wisdom to live by the health code of 2000 years ago or by the present knowledge on ground? If we claim that we would stick to the 2000 years old facts then clearly, we should use the bible as the guide when it comes to tobacco, cocaine, heroin, and other drugs. Remember, with the exception of tobacco, alcohol kills more people than all these other drugs combined.

I didn't say the Bible is a health guide. In God's view, it's a sin if we get drunk or misuse it.

Why are all these drugs not legalized but alcohol the killer is legalized and the only warning is; don't drink if you're below 18 and drink responsibly even though alcohol can kill more than the drugs combined together?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 2:00pm On Apr 06, 2022
cornelboy:


I didn't say the Bible is a health guide. In God's view, it's a sin if we get drunk or misuse it.

Why are all these drugs not legalized but alcohol the killer is legalized and the only warning is; don't drink if you're below 18 and drink responsibly even though alcohol can kill more than the drugs combined together?
You asked a very good question. It tells you that there is something very wrong somewhere. Do you think that a drug responsible for 1 in every 20 dead people should be legalized? Again, most of the people alcohol kills are over 18 so saying those above 18 makes very little sense.
Personally, I have no issue with legalizing all drugs. people should be free to consume whatever they want. It should be their right but that isn't the issue here.
Now some countries legalize some of these other drugs we are talking about. Tobacco an even greater killer is legal in about every country. Holland and Portugal allow lots of these drugs to be taken.
The US ban alcohol in the 1920s but it was impossible to enforce because much of the population was already hooked.
Again Alcohol is banned in most of the Muslim world.
Taking about the right use of Alcohol, it is only useful as a drug and not as a beverage. It is not food, it is a drug.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 10:38pm On Apr 06, 2022
tctrills:

. Do you think that a drug responsible for 1 in every 20 dead people should be legalized? Again, most of the people alcohol kills are over 18 so saying those above 18 makes very little sense.

Now some countries legalize some of these other drugs we are talking about. Tobacco an even greater killer is legal in about every country. Holland and Portugal allow lots of these drugs to be taken.
The US ban alcohol in the 1920s but it was impossible to enforce because much of the population was already hooked.
Again Alcohol is banned in most of the Muslim world.
Taking about the right use of Alcohol, it is only useful as a drug and not as a beverage. It is not food, it is a drug.

Alcohol is banned in Muslim countries because of their religion not healthy related issues.

Personally, I have no issue with legalizing all drugs. people should be free to consume whatever they want. It should be their right but that isn't the issue here.
If indeed you believe this, there's no need for this thread.

You asked a very good question. It tells you that there is something very wrong somewhere

So with all the facts you put up there, why couldn't alcohol be banned?
Why do doctors and medical personnesl drink when they know it kills than most drug combined together?
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 11:27pm On Apr 06, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=111714951]

Alcohol is banned in Muslim countries because of their religion not healthy related issues.
It doesn't matter, the banning of alcohol is about politics and policy.



If indeed you believe this, there's no need for this thread.
The purpose of the thread was not to take away people's free will. It was to show them a better way and to help all as best as I can.



So with all the facts you put up there, why couldn't alcohol be banned?
Because it is political and banning it did not stop or reduce the sale in the 1920s in America. It's very hard to ban what a majority of your voters love. That shows you the power of Alcohol. same with tobacco.
Why do doctors and medical personnel drink when they know it kills than most drug combined together?
Many doctors and medical personnel make poor health choices. Just because I am a doctor does not mean I am not human and bound by the weaknesses of the flesh. There are doctors that use hard drugs and there are doctors that have unprotected sex. In fact, the suicide rate among doctors is one of the highest in the world. This tells you that even doctors do not always make the best life choices.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 3:44am On Apr 07, 2022
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Little consumption of alcohol is not bad for the body.
I made my own research on that.

Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by tctrills: 3:49am On Apr 07, 2022
cornelboy:

Little consumption of alcohol is not bad for the body.
I made my own research on that.
I feel proud of you, you have started doing research but a few questions, how recent is your publication? Also, at what quantity does it become dangerous?
finally, do some research on alcohol and brain cells.
Re: Alcoholism, A Disease Or A Sin? by cornelboy(f): 3:57am On Apr 07, 2022
tctrills:
I feel proud of you, you have started doing research but a few questions, how recent is your publication? Also, at what quantity does it become dangerous?
finally, do some research on alcohol and brain cells.

That's Britannica. It's a reliable source.

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