MaxInDHouse:

Guy you're not ready for intellectual talks!

It's not a must that you listen to all the Gods in the world before you know the Creator.

Out of all the Gods ever heard of throughout the whole world only the Bible God foretold {Malachi 3:16} and ordered His worshipers to go out and start what you're trying to do now which is reasoning with your neighbours on matters having to do with Godliness! Matthew 10:11-13; 24:14; 28:18-20

And to confirmed that He is the Creator who can promise and fulfill His promises the God of the Bible referred to all other Gods as blind, maim, deaf and paralyzed {Psalms 115:4-7} He even said those trusting (believing) in those Gods will become as handicap as their Gods.

So where are the Witnesses of those Gods if they truly exist?

Bros pls don't place your whole life and reality on a single book pls try to be more open minded and read other books(quaran,Vedas,sefer yetzira) and other spiritual books abeg religion don cause too much wahala for the world, I won't reply you again because you are too close minded gracias

peterincredible:
Bros pls don't place your whole life and reality on a single book pls try to be more open minded and read other books(quaran,Vedas,sefer yetzira) and other spiritual books abeg religion don cause too much wahala for the world, I won't reply you again because you are too close minded gracias

Well i only came to prove to you that the only living God is the God of Israel so you're entitled to your own opinion!
Goodbye!

oteneaaron:


A little research would do you a lot of good.

Expand your world view.

A great knowledge of how to obtain and discern Truth, would profit you greatly.

Maynman:


There is a original copy of it, and it’s the oldest written text in history.

"They Say"! Hearsay Evidence.

Maynman:

Is there a original copy of the Bible?

What is called The Bible clearly shows that it is a compilation of various independent testimonies, that is what makes it very sweet admissible evidence.

Like reading the statements of witnesses and accuseds at police stations. The reader is allowed to read, draw his own inferences and come to a reasonable conclusion of his own accord.

No personal interest, no report given with litigation in mind, no Law of Evidence being violated.

Dtruthspeaker:


"They Say"! Hearsay Evidence.



What is called The Bible clearly shows that it is a compilation of various independent testimonies, that is what makes it very sweet admissible evidence.

Like reading the statements of witnesses and accuseds at police stations. The reader is allowed to read, draw his own inferences and come to a reasonable conclusion of his own accord.

No personal interest, no report given with litigation in mind, no Law of Evidence being violated.

There’s a original text for it.

Are the “independent testimonial” not also hearsay? They are not called evidence because it was written down by murderers and rapist, a judge still have to rule over the “independent testimonies”

Maynman:

There’s a original text for it.

You say!

Maynman:

Are the “independent testimonial” not also hearsay?

Nope!

Maynman:

They are not called evidence because it was written down by murderers and rapist, a judge still have to rule over the “independent testimonies”

The Law of Evidence has determined what is evidence and I am an expert in Laws and Laws of Evidence.

Dtruthspeaker:


You say!



Nope!



The Law of Evidence has determined what is evidence and I am an expert in Laws and Laws of Evidence.

What are you doing? I said There are original text For it, that you can see.

Who created this “law of evidence” lol
Expert? What’s your qualifications?

Dtruthspeaker:


A great knowledge of how to obtain and discern Truth, would profit you greatly.

Pray tell, what is this truth and how can it be obtained?

peterincredible:
Bros I beg you go and read it pls before you comment this is a book written thousands of years before jesus walked through the surface of this earth, this is are text that describe the solar system years before even scientist even thought of describing it,

I have the works of Aristotle, Archimedes, Eratosthenes, Lucretius, all older than the Bible and they gave their own independent reports.

Note, The Bible did not say it is the oldest book in the world, even inside it, you would see that people kept books too.

peterincredible:

the Sumerian text even went further of describing how the planets weather condition of several planets in our solar system and constellation beyond where scientist cant even get to with this our current technology of our time,

And look at this statement, does this not sound exactly like what Hollywood would say?

Look at the oldies of early years, them Aristotle and co, they gave reports of things which they saw in their time, the same things which we see today, but herein comes the so called "summerians" talking about things which no reputable early scientists confirm and having an anti bible restatement of what the Bible, clearly tells you the object of attack, exactly like the movies do!

Come on, this is an obvious stadium sized sign post that screams Lies, Lies, Lies.

oteneaaron:

Pray tell, what is this truth and how can it be obtained?

I said it is a great profit to learn how to obtain, Filter and discern TRUTH.

And I know you deal with liars everyday but in spite of them all you know when Truth is given you. Use it

Dtruthspeaker:


I have the works of Aristotle, Archimedes, Eratosthenes, Lucretius, all older than the Bible and they gave their own independent reports.

Note, The Bible did not say it is the oldest book in the world, even inside it, you would see that people kept books too.



And look at this statement, does this not sound exactly like what Hollywood would say?

Look at the oldies of early years, them Aristotle and co, they gave reports of things which they saw in their time, the same things which we see today, but herein comes the so called "summerians" talking about things which no reputable early scientists confirm and having an anti bible restatement of what the Bible, clearly tells you the object of attack, exactly like the movies do!

Come on, this is an obvious stadium sized sign post that screams Lies, Lies, Lies.

How’s Aristotle a oldie?
What will you now call Heraclitus?

And which report did Aristotle give?

I've read the book this was gotten from, it was given to me by my muslim friend back then in secondary school. I had already know the bible was rubbish before even reading the book.

Gods socalled perfect book is not so perfect after all. Full of shit and lies. I dont know how someone will read the bible and not see the bullshit that it is made of.
I've seen how some of these so called Christians are trying to justify that there must be errors, or even try to change what is clearly written in the bible just to suit their narrative

"There are many GODS, why do you stick to just one out of them?"

Says the atheists.

But then my own God said so many things that i can share with my neighbours whereas there's no other God that has said anything regarding what the future holds and how people will yearn to discuss about God the way we're doing now. Malachi 3:16
My own God even ordered me to go and speak with my neighbours about Him! Matthew 28:18-20
So what makes the atheist think i must listen to another God that has nothing to offer regarding the future when i already have a God who can predict what will happen in the future, promise what He will make His own worshipers do that time and make sure he fulfilled His promises? Isaiah 55:8-12

Maynman:


How’s Aristotle a oldie?
What will you now call Heraclitus?

And which report did Aristotle give?

Bros pls don't stress ureself with religious people pls don't. Let dem remain in the bondage they created for themselves

SeraphEl:
I am quite sure that 99.999% if not 100% of these apparent “contradictions” are explainable.

I can tell that you embellished and exaggerated just by looking up by the first few lists of contradictions that you gave.

Additionally, YOU CANNOT WRITE OFF AS CONTRADICTION THINGS YOUR SIMPLE MIND CANNOT COMPREHEND.

If It makes you sleep at night to dismiss the GOD of the bible, however that sleep is not restfully. Repent! And believe in the one who died for your sins. Leave all these long stories alone.

If it's truly explainable, you would have explained my dear instead of the conventional thing you'all say for people to believe sheepishly

Puremind1225:
Do you know any other creation story that makes more sense than the one in the Bible?

I know the most senseless is the one in the bible cos there's never a proof, you just have to believe like a blind man

MaxInDHouse:
"There are many GODS, why do you stick to just one out of them?"

Says the atheists.

But then my own God said so many things that i can share with my neighbours whereas there's no other God that has said anything regarding what the future holds and how people will yearn to discuss about God the way we're doing now. Malachi 3:16
My own God even ordered me to go and speak with my neighbours about Him! Matthew 28:18-20
So what makes the atheist think i must listen to another God that has nothing to offer regarding the future when i already have a God who can predict what will happen in the future, promise what He will make His own worshipers do that time and make sure he fulfilled His promises? Isaiah 55:8-12

And I guess your god has predicted the fate of Nigeria several times and we can clearly see what we have. I guess your god is just an average gambler. he should focus more on bet9ja

BriskhoffBox:

And I guess your god has predicted the fate of Nigeria several times and we can clearly see what we have. I guess your god is just an average gambler. he should focus more on bet9ja

Nobody is forcing God on you it's the topic of your post that drew people to come and share what they have with you here so try to appreciate it when people respond to your call, stop quarrelling with people simply because they don't share your thoughts.

The one and only true God predicted what will happen globally during the last days because He is the Creator of all not just one part of the earth like other false (dead) Gods.
He said "during the last days people will start discussing one on one about holiness and His angels will start writing down the names of those who truly appreciate such discussion" {Malachi 3:16} He also send His own worshipers to go and speak (reason with their neighbours) throughout the earth {Matthew 28:19-20} and today you are here talking about God and God's word, and many joined in the discussion. So if you know another God why not present on this thread? the things that God predicted and how it came to fulfilment?

AkinwaleJJ:

Nobody is forcing God on you it's the topic of your post that drew people to come and share what they have with you here so try to appreciate it when people respond to your call, stop quarrelling with people simply because they don't share your thoughts.

The one and only true God predicted what will happen globally during the last days because He is the Creator of all not just one part of the earth like other false (dead) Gods.
He said "during the last days people will start discussing one on one about holiness and His angels will start writing down the names of those who truly appreciate such discussion" {Malachi 3:16} He also send His own worshipers to go and speak (reason with their neighbours) throughout the earth {Matthew 28:19-20} and today you are here talking about God and God's word, and many joined in the discussion. So if you know another God why not present on this thread? the things that God predicted and how it came to fulfilment?

Did you see me abuse anybody here.? No fighting, just expressing myself. As to your god predicting what happens in the world globally, that's a big fallacy. Because there's nothing happening now that has not been happening since time memorial. I dare you to name a new thing happening that we've never seen or been told about before. The yoruba man will say "ko si oun tuntun labe orun" which literally means there's nothing new happening on this earth.

tctrills:

What do you expect from a record that is thousands of years. Most Christians are not disturbed by these discrepancies because they understand the message. This was a record written by dozens of authors and passed along for centuries. Errors are bound. Still it has blessed the lives of millions.

What's the message? And maybe it has destroyed millions of lives as well

BriskhoffBox:
Many regard the bible as the infallible word of God, I regard it as a book written by man for his personal agenda. The Bible is an unreliable authority because it contains numerous contradictions. Logically, if two statements are contradictory, at least one of them is false. The biblical contradictions therefore prove that the book has many false statements and is not infallible.

Examples of Old Testament Contradictions
The contradictions start in the opening chapters of the Bible, where inconsistent creation stories are told. Genesis chapter 1 says the first man and woman were made at the same time, and after the animals. But Genesis chapter 2 gives a different order of creation: man, then the animals, and then woman.

Genesis chapter 1 lists six days of creation, whereas chapter 2 refers to the “day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.” Genesis 1:2-3 claims that God created light and divided it from darkness on the first day; but Genesis 1:14-19 tells us the sun, moon, and stars weren’t made until the fourth day.

Chapter 1 reports that the fruit trees were created before the man, while chapter 2 indicates they were made after him. Genesis 1:20 says the fowl were created out of the waters; Genesis 2:19 alleges they were formed from the ground.

Contradictions are also seen in the biblical story of a worldwide flood. According to Genesis 6:19-22, God ordered Noah to bring “of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort . . . into the ark.” Nevertheless, Genesis 7:2-3 relates that the Lord ordered Noah to take into the ark the clean beasts and the birds by sevens, and only the unclean beasts by twos.

Genesis 8:4 reports that, as the waters of the flood receded, Noah’s ark rested on the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month. The very next verse, however, says the mountaintops could not be seen until the tenth month.

Genesis 8:13 describes the earth as being dry on the first day of the first month. But Genesis 8:14 informs us the earth was not dry until the twenty-seventh day of the second month.

The Old Testament contains an interesting contradiction in the story of the census taken by King David and the resulting punishment of the Israelites. God was so angered by the census that he sent a plague that killed 70,000 men. According to II Samuel 24:1, the Lord had caused David to take the census – which makes the punishment appear even more nonsensical. But an attempt was later made, at I Chronicles 21:1, to improve God’s image by claiming that Satan incited the census.

Further, the Old Testament is contradictory as to whether the Lord commanded the Israelites to sacrifice animals to him. At Jeremiah 7:22, God denies he ever gave the Israelites commandments about animal sacrifices. In contrast, Exodus 29:38-42 and many other verses depict God as requiring the Israelites to offer animal sacrifices.

Examples of New Testament Contradictions
In the New Testament, there are contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke.

Both genealogies begin with Jesus’ father, who is identified as Joseph (which is curious, given that Mary was supposedly impregnated by the Holy Ghost). But Matthew says Joseph’s father was Jacob, while Luke claims he was Heli. Matthew lists 26 generations between Jesus and King David, whereas Luke records 41. Matthew runs Jesus’ line of descent through David’s son Solomon, while Luke has it going through David’s son Nathan.

The story of Jesus’ birth is also contradictory. Matthew 2:13-15 depicts Joseph and Mary as fleeing to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately after the wise men from the east had brought gifts.

But Luke 2:22-40 claims that after the birth of Jesus, his parents remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary’s purification (which was 40 days, under the Mosaic law). Afterwards, they brought Jesus to Jerusalem “to present him to the Lord,” and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke mentions no journey into Egypt or visit by wise men from the east.

Concerning the death of Judas, the disloyal disciple, Matthew 27:5 states he took the money he had received for betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and “went and hanged himself.” To the contrary, Acts 1:18 claims Judas used the money to purchase a field and “falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.”

In describing Jesus being led to his execution, John 19:17 recounts that he carried his own cross. But Mark 15:21-23 disagrees by saying a man called Simon carried the cross.

As for the crucifixion, Matthew 27:44 tells us Jesus was taunted by both criminals who were being crucified with him. But Luke 23:39-43 relates that only one of the criminals taunted Jesus, the other criminal rebuked the one who was doing the taunting, and Jesus told the criminal who was defending him, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

Regarding the last words of Jesus while on the cross, Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.” John 19:30 alleges the last words were, “It is finished.”

There are even contradictions in the accounts of the resurrection – the supposed event that is the very foundation of the Christian religion. Mark 16:2 states that on the day of the resurrection, certain women arrived at the tomb at the rising of the sun. But John 20:1 informs us they arrived when it was yet dark. Luke 24:2 describes the tomb as open when the women arrived, whereas Matthew 28:1-2 indicates it was closed. Mark 16:5 declares that the women saw a young man at the tomb, Luke 24:4 says they saw two men, Matthew 28:2 reports they saw an angel, and John 20:11-12 claims they saw two angels.

Also in the resurrection stories, there are contradictions as to the identity of the women who came to the tomb,[7] whether the men or angels the women saw were inside or outside the tomb,[8] whether the men or angels were standing or sitting,[9] and whether Mary Magdalene recognized the risen Jesus when he first appeared to her.[10]

As a final example of a New Testament contradiction, the conflicting accounts of Paul’s conversion can be cited. Acts 9:7 states that when Jesus called Paul to preach the gospel, the men who were with Paul heard a voice but saw no man. According to Acts 22:9, however, the men saw a light but didn’t hear the voice speaking to Paul.

The foregoing examples are just a few of the hundreds of contradictions contained in the Old and New Testaments. Each contradiction is an instance where at least one of the verses is wrong. Thus, hundreds of contradictions mean there are at least hundreds of incorrect statements in the Bible.

The fruit trees were created in Chapter one but they were not yet visible in the natural world. Chapter two was just a physical process to make them visible. Everything you see in the natural first existed in the realm of the spirit.

BriskhoffBox:


What's the message? And maybe it has destroyed millions of lives as well

Or saved a billion souls

tctrills:
Or saved a billion souls

What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster who has saved a quadrillion souls?!! The almighty FSM whose image is in every living thing.

Ken4Christ:


The fruit trees were created in Chapter one but they were not yet visible in the natural world. Chapter two was just a physical process to make them visible. Everything you see in the natural first existed in the realm of the spirit.

If the spiritual will not manifest if the physical does not put in loads of effort, so what's the importance of the spiritual? Whether the spiritual functions or not, if you plant a seed on a fertile ground, it will germinate by itself without any god performing magic

Ken4Christ:


The fruit trees were created in Chapter one but they were not yet visible in the natural world. Chapter two was just a physical process to make them visible. Everything you see in the natural first existed in the realm of the spirit.

Ahh, the “theory of forms” the ancient Christian “thinkers” borrowed from Plato, who borrowed it from more ancient people.

tctrills:
Or saved a billion souls

According to your doctrine, few will make it to heaven na, there will be much more souls in hell. If it saves a billion then hundreds of trillion have been doomed

BriskhoffBox:


According to your doctrine, few will make it to heaven na, there will be much more souls in hell. If it saves a billion then hundreds of trillion have been doomed

Not my doctrine. I never counted to know the exact number.

tctrills:

Not my doctrine. I never counted to know the exact number.

Okay���

BriskhoffBox:

Did you see me abuse anybody here.? No fighting, just expressing myself. As to your god predicting what happens in the world globally, that's a big fallacy. Because there's nothing happening now that has not been happening since time memorial. I dare you to name a new thing happening that we've never seen or been told about before. The yoruba man will say "ko si oun tuntun labe orun" which literally means there's nothing new happening on this earth.

I love the highlighted so much and for this i say God bless you again and again and again!

Now listen to the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom that's never been told, heard or seen anything like it before from the beginning of this world until today!

The God of the Bible claims He is the Creator of heaven and earth: CHEAP STORY!
He claims He caused a global deluge and save just eight souls: CHEAP STORY!
He claims confusing all the families of the earth by making them speak divers languages: CHEAP STORY!
He claims rescuing a multitude of people (Israelites) from Egypt with mighty works: CHEAP STORY!
He claims saving Shadrach Meshach and Abednego from fairy furnace: CHEAP STORY!
He claims sending Jesus who performed many wonderful works: CHEAP STORY!

Now the INDISPUTABLE facts about my God!

He PROMISED to save mankind through the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so He continued with this race until they became the most popular race throughout the world: JEWS!
He PROMISED to unite people of all nations under one umbrella making them reason like brothers and sisters so that they will not raise weapons against one another anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
How is He going to do this? He PROMISED us a child that will be born among the chosen race who will become the world's greatest counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6
He PROMISED that when the child comes his counseling will unite people from all nations making them reason on the words of my God! Malachi 3:16
He sent Jesus who established a global preaching and teaching campaign to unite people of all nations! Matthew 28:18-20
And today what do we have that has never been heard or seen before?
Jesus' true disciples have formed a global family of peace loving worshipers awaiting the Kingdom of Christ when everyone on this planet will live in PEACE and SECURITY, they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again so while there has never been a time when people from all the nations form a group or organization and say goodbye to politics, military services and use of weapons before Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) have successfully achieved this!

Jesus even said they will be known for loving themselves like one family {John 13:34-35} but that throughout the earth people will hate them for separating themselves {John 15:19} from all the issues leading people in other religions to carry weapons as soldiers to kill one another due to racism and politics! Revelations 6:3-4

Please tell me any story ever heard anywhere on this planet a time when such once happened and affected people from all races, so that a sect swept throughout the earth to gather individuals who all agreed on the same line of thought as if they're speaking one language in LOVE, JOY and PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9

KnownUnknown:


Ahh, the “theory of forms” the ancient Christian “thinkers” borrowed from Plato, who borrowed it from more ancient people.

But it is true. If it was not first created in the realm of the spirit. It will never appear in the physical. The spiritual gave birth to the physical.

BriskhoffBox:


If the spiritual will not manifest if the physical does not put in loads of effort, so what's the importance of the spiritual? Whether the spiritual functions or not, if you plant a seed on a fertile ground, it will germinate by itself without any god performing magic

It is God who ordained it to be so by the word he pronounced. This is why a fig tree stopped producing overnight when Jesus cursed it.

Everything in life is presently sustained by the word of God. The day God says its over, this present age will end. And that day is coming closer.

Ken4Christ:


But it is true. If it was not first created in the realm of the spirit. It will never appear in the physical. The spiritual gave birth to the physical.

It has never been shown to be true. You can’t just say things are true or untrue because of sentiments. The idea of “forms” or in your case “spirits” was created when the philosopher/priests did not have the knowledge of the physical world that have since been accumulated.
The idea of “animating spirit” was borne out of ignorance of how some things have life and motion while some don’t. While mankind hasn’t figured out the whole of existence, we have found “spirits” and “forms” to be crude ideas about nature’s functioning.