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Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 8:38am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


seems u dint have sense. B4 when ipob was peaceful I supported them until they started killing innocent igbos. Bokoharam abd bandits were once ordinary Muslim till they turned to terrorist.

ipob left freedom fighting to become terrorist killing igbos instead of protecting them like dey did b4. They will rot in hell.

u are the one sounding like a F00l. supporting terrorism.



So if igbos don't want to sit at home they should be killed?? God will punish all these terrorist and their supporters for the atrocities committed by ipob/UGM. U judgement will come. Criminals

Point me to a thread where you condemned when the Nigerian government and its soldiers were killing ipob members when they were only waving harmless flags and chanting hymns on the streets of Nigeria

If you can’t point me to one then keep your mouth closed on this matter and stop playing the ostrich.

I hate hypocrites like you I swear

Tueeh angry

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Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 8:40am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


seems u dint have sense. B4 when ipob was peaceful I supported them until they started killing innocent igbos. Bokoharam abd bandits were once ordinary Muslim till they turned to terrorist.

ipob left freedom fighting to become terrorist killing igbos instead of protecting them like dey did b4. They will rot in hell.

u are the one sounding like a F00l. supporting terrorism.



So if igbos don't want to sit at home they should be killed?? God will punish all these terrorist and their supporters for the atrocities committed by ipob/UGM. U judgement will come. Criminals
Hahaha you people are really funny.The way you people always try everything possible to sell this una propagandas that IPOB kills Igbos they meant to protect make you people sounds s..pid but guess what,Igbos are use to that una propagandas and divide and rule antics.I advice you to worry about your failed precious country called zoogeria because when IPOB/ESN and great Nnamdi Kanu succeeded in actualising Biafra for us Housa/Fulanis will use you people do barbeque....I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 8:44am On May 18, 2022
Oxb90:
A particular section has even fought for independence. They are wiser. Their leaders then saw the future. They already know that the one Nigeria mantra is fake.
It's just for the economic gain of some vested interest.
While other sections of the country is doing everything in their power to drag them back by using all the propagandas and blackmails they learnt to hold them back by claiming that IPOB/ESN and Mazi Nnamdi Kanu that meant to protect Igbos are now killing them.Am glad that great Igbos will soon leave this failed marriage called zoogeria let other tribes remain in this fake marriage with Housa/Fulanis....I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 8:48am On May 18, 2022
Asgard13:
Any group or region that wants to leave the country should follow the un procedure

The problem with IPOB is that... having found that they’re clueless and international community has not paid any attention to their gibberish

They inplace thought of a means to control igboland

Ask any IPOB wetin Be dia plan or make them try educate those they’re destroying their means of livelihood on how sitting at home will give them Biafra

Fools gat nothing ..

Na why dem Dey force and intimidate ..th y have nothing else to say or defend their foolishness

Said they’re sitting for Kanu release

Ask them about Biafra

Nothing

Igbos wake up
Oga unity beggar and parasite leave IPOB out of this because there is no where OP mentioned IPOB in this thread.What is problem with you people and IPOB,I thought you people said IPOB are online country and chest beaters but anytime there is news about Nigeria woes you people must find way to drag IPOB in it....I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 8:51am On May 18, 2022
BloomingDale:


So why has the South, especially the Igbos not asked for self determination?
See this unity beggar that is trying to use reverse psychological but you failed.Oga Igbos said and keep saying that they are not interested in your zoogeria so leave them and stop dragging them back...I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 8:57am On May 18, 2022
Igbojew:
Hahaha you people are really funny.The way you people always try everything possible to sell this una propagandas that IPOB kills Igbos they meant to protect make you people sounds s..pid but guess what,Igbos are use to that una propagandas and divide and rule antics.I advice you to worry about your failed precious country called zoogeria because when IPOB/ESN and great Nnamdi Kanu succeeded in actualising Biafra for us Housa/Fulanis will use you people do barbeque....I am that Igbojew

when igbos refused to sit at home. have u not been killing and attacking them?? Answer
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 8:58am On May 18, 2022
tunjijones:


It's okay if everyone goes their separate ways but have you thought of what wld happen to northern Christians when Nigeria eventually break up?

Think about this.
What concerns Igbos with the way Northern Christians fare or live with their Northern Muslims if zoogeria break up.Oga every Aboki with his kettle and Igbos don't care how you Northern Christians will live with Northern Muslims since you people love one Nigeria with passion and refused to fight those Northern Muslims the way Igbos fight them...I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 9:01am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


Point me to a thread where you condemned when the Nigerian government and its soldiers were killing ipob members when they were only waving harmless flags and chanting hymns on the streets of Nigeria

If you can’t point me to one then keep your mouth closed on this matter and stop playing the ostrich.

I hate hypocrites like you I swear

Tueeh angry

I can point u to serveral bt why must ipob kill innocent igbos for not sitting at home?? are they mad?? and u are defending the terrorist??

The blood of these innocent igbos will hunt.
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Igbojew: 9:03am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


when igbos refused to sit at home. have u not been killing and attacking them?? Answer
Which IPOB was attacking Igbos on sit at home? You will sit somewhere in ogbomosho or Iragbiji spewing trash but all una propagandas will not work.....I am that Igbojew
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 9:05am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


I can point u to serveral bt why must ipob kill innocent igbos for not sitting at home?? are they mad?? and u are defending the terrorist??

The blood of these innocent igbos will hunt.

POINT

ME

TO

ONE

THREAD

or leave me in peace tongue
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by sweet12345: 9:06am On May 18, 2022
say's who. who is FG... the country is not united, and so we can't stand together FG
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 9:11am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


POINT

ME

TO

ONE

THREAD

or leave me in peace tongue

why are u supporting killing of igbos by ipob? why
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 9:14am On May 18, 2022
Igbojew:
Which IPOB was attacking Igbos on sit at home? You will sit somewhere in ogbomosho or Iragbiji spewing trash but all una propagandas will not work.....I am that Igbojew

u think I'm not from the South east? I have family members and friends telling me everything.

Bloody hooligans and criminals. u will all perish for ur atrocities against innocent igbos.
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 9:15am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


why are u supporting killing of igbos by ipob? why

And what proof do you have that it’s ipob doing all the killings? undecided
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 9:24am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


And what proof do you have that it’s ipob doing all the killings? undecided

who is controlling and killing people in the east? the army only come when they want to flush out the criminals after getting reports.

all the sit at home killings where done by ipob.
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 9:27am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:

who is controlling and killing people in the east? the army only come when they want to flush out the criminals after getting reports.
all the sit at home killings where done by ipob.

To the bolded I’m still waiting for your proof undecided

And if you keep shifting the goalpost I will conclude you’re one of them chameleon faced afonja/minority/notherners who play on the sensibilities of igbos on this forum

And I won’t be civil with you anymore angry
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by AlphaMogul: 9:47am On May 18, 2022
Hamzaaaaaaaa:
Ds northern elders forum are just playing a mind game using reverse psychology,[s]how will you guys survive if igbo leaves,they keep using population to control how things will be done in Nigeria and igbo elites keep betraying their people because of money[/s]
@Hamzaaaaaaaa
I assume you are Ibo but using a Muslim name "Hamza" as your user name.

You are also engaging in delusion of grandeur here like the so-called Northern Elders Forum
which is a supporter of PDP. What do you mean by "how will you guys survive if igbo leaves?"

Stop overplaying the self-importance of Ibos OK. Those Northerners have always survived and will survive because
they have ancestral connections with Niger, Chad, Mali, Sudan and the rest of the Muslim world.

Have you NOT heard of the trans-Saharan trade that made certain Northern cities to prosper before colonial rule.

Some of you folks underestimate the Northern folks a lot. By the way I'm originally of Southern roots but have
had ties with the North for decades. Make NO mistake about it, I'm in support of the peaceful dissolution of Nigeria
just like Czechoslovakia and former USSR, and then it will be possible for the far North to form a new country or
join Niger Republic to form a new country because Hausaland extends into Niger Republic, and even Buhari's father
is originally from Niger. PMB himself is NOT originally from Daura but was born in a migratory cattle Fulah settlement
in Katsina State. His mother is a Kanuri woman. The Kanuris can also join their Kanembu kith-and-kin in Chad.
The Yorubas have kith-and-kin in Benin Republic and Atakpame Province in Togo. Yorubaland also extends into
Benin and Togo Republics.

Everybody should go their ways peacefully. That's the only solution to the BIG lie called Nigeria. I have lost hope in
Nigeria after several decades of hoping for the best. Period.


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Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 9:48am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


To the bolded I’m still waiting for your proof undecided

And if you keep shifting the goalpost I will conclude you’re one of them chameleon faced afonja/minority/notherners who play on the sensibilities of igbos on this forum

And I won’t be civil with you anymore angry

who is enforcing sit at home in the east?? isn't it ipob? who is attacking innocent igbos for not sitting at home?

when u answer that u will know who has been killing igbos cos of sit at home. They will perish in hell for their atrocities.

is it innocent igbos that locked Nnamdi kanu up I dss cell?? u are killing them cos of sit at home.

one useless person was saying yes they should sit at home or be dealt with cos Nnamdi kanu is still locked up. imagine undecided
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by angelfallz(m): 9:49am On May 18, 2022
It is Igbo, not Ibo.
AlphaMogul:

@Hamzaaaaaaaa
I assume you are Ibo but using a Muslim name "Hamza" as your user name.

You are also engaging in delusion of grandeur here. What do you mean by "how will you guys survive if igbo leaves?"

Stop overplaying the self-importance of Ibos OK. Those Northerners have always survived and will survive because
they have ancestral connections with Niger, Chad, Mali, Sudan and the rest of the Muslim world.

Have you NOT heard of the trans-Saharan traded that made certain Northern cities to prosper before colonial rule.

Some of you folks underestimate those Northern folks alot. By the way I'am originally of Southern roots but have
had ties with the North for decades.

Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 9:57am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


who is enforcing sit at home in the east?? isn't it ipob? who is attacking innocent igbos for not sitting at home?

when u answer that u will know who has been killing igbos cos of sit at home. They will perish in hell for their atrocities.

is it innocent igbos that locked Nnamdi kanu up I dss cell?? u are killing them cos of sit at home.

one useless person was saying yes they should sit at home or be dealt with cos Nnamdi kanu is still locked up. imagine undecided

What makes you say that it’s ipob enforcing the sit at home protest in the south east today?

And don’t come with the stale line ‘ugm is esn/ipob’ because I will ask for proof again angry
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 10:12am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


What makes you say that it’s ipob enforcing the sit at home protest in the south east today?

And don’t come with the stale line ‘ugm is esn/ipob’ because I will ask for proof again angry

u are funny. so who declared and is still declaring sit at home? who else will and is enforce the sit at home??
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by Freeman50(m): 10:12am On May 18, 2022
BloomingDale:


So why has the South, especially the Igbos not asked for self determination?
You certainly fall down from the sky?
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by AlphaMogul: 10:23am On May 18, 2022
angelfallz:
It is Igbo, not Ibo.
@angelfallz,

I choose to use IBO because that is what my generation used back in the day.
All the Chinua Achebe books I read years back had "Ibo" in them and books, newspapers, and
magazine publications as far back as the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and way past 2000 that I have in
my library have Ibo in them and NON of your kinsmen complained then.

It was after the year 2000 that we started seeing the gradual smuggling of the spelling
"Igbo" in some publications.

Oxford Advanced Learners dictionary lists Ibo in it as well.

I will continue to use Ibo because it is ingrained in me and it is too late for me to drop.

Moreover NOBODY has been able to explain WHAT it means in your language and
why you would refer to yourselves as IGBO. I read a PDF doc on Anioma history that
the Anioma viewed the term in derogatory light and it denoted the people of the BUSH
who were viewed as slaves back in the day.

I downloaded that academic PDF online while searching for info on Anioma history.
It was 2 lecturers of DELSU that wrote the doc. I read it last 3 years ago. If I can find
it in my archive, I'll upload it or search for it online when I have the chance.

All the best.
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 10:24am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


u are funny. so who declared and is still declaring sit at home? who else will and is enforce the sit at home??

The onus lies on your shoulders to present PROOF and not HERESIES on this topic.

Not once, twice or three times have ipob’s spokespersons come out on live tv and social media to end and distance themselves from this sit at home exercise

but I’m sure you’d claim that you didn’t hear of such as usual wink
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by jaxxy(m): 10:26am On May 18, 2022
an0daGuy:


The onus lies on your shoulders to present PROOF and not HERESIES on this topic.

Not once, twice or three times have ipob’s spokespersons come out on live tv and social media to end and distance themselves from this sit at home exercise

but I’m sure you’d claim that you didn’t hear of such as usual wink

who is Simon ekpa?
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by an0daGuy: 10:30am On May 18, 2022
jaxxy:


who is Simon ekpa?

He is a figure that sprouted out from the depths of oblivion after MNK was illegally and extrajudicially kidnapped from Kenya

And whoever he is

he will definitely crawl back into the oblivion from whence he came once MNK is released by the federal government
Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by angelfallz(m): 10:51am On May 18, 2022
Lol. the fact that you are used to something does not make it correct. I like the way you cited Chinua Achebe's books and newspaper publications, to back yourself up.

But let me counter with this.

When I was in primary school we were taught that Mungo Park discovered the river Niger. It was in our curriculum, text books I read also said, that river Niger was discovered by Mungo Park, and our teachers then, taught us with so much zeal that Mungo Park discovered the river Niger.

It was not until maybe my university or even after University that I realised that what I was taught all those years ago was wrong and the text books that I read about the river Niger was wrong.

For me Ibo, is just the spelling of the English mispronunciation of the word Igbo. Let me give you another example of the spelling of the English mispronunciation of an Igbo word. Awka, which is the capital of Anambra state. "Awka" is not an Igbo spelling, but an English spelling. The Igbo spelling should be Okaa, with a dot under the O.

Another example is Enugu. Enugu, is the English spelling of the mispronounced Igbo word, Enugwu, which means on top of a hill.

So sir, the fact that your generation and the books you read said Ibo and not Igbo, does not make Ibo right.

Thank you.




AlphaMogul:

@angelfallz,

I choose to use IBO because that is what my generation used back in the day.
All the Chinua Achebe books I read years back had "Ibo" in them and books, newspapers, and
magazine publications as far back as the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and way past 2000 that I have in
my library have Ibo in them and NON of your kinsmen complained then.

It was after the year 2000 that we started seeing the gradual smuggling of the spelling
"Igbo" in some publications.

Oxford Advanced Learners dictionary lists Ibo in it as well.

I will continue to use Ibo because it is ingrained in me and it is too late for me to drop.

Moreover NOBODY has been able to explain WHAT it means in your language and
why you would refer to yourselves as IGBO. I read a PDF doc on Anioma history that
the Anioma viewed the term in derogatory light and it denoted the people of the BUSH
who were viewed as slaves back in the day.

I downloaded that academic PDF online while searching for info on Anioma history.
It was 2 lecturers of DELSU that wrote the doc. I read it last 3 years ago. If I can find
it in my archive, I'll upload it or search for it online when I have the chance.

All the best.

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Re: No Group Has A Right To Ask A Section Of The Country To Leave - Presidency by AlphaMogul: 1:21pm On May 18, 2022
angelfallz:
Lol. the fact that you are used to something does not make it correct. I like the way you cited Chinua Achebe's books and newspaper publications, to back yourself up.

But let me counter with this.

When I was in primary school we were taught that Mungo Park discovered the river Niger. It was in our curriculum, text books I read also said, that river Niger was discovered by Mungo Park, and our teachers then, taught us with so much zeal that Mungo Park discovered the river Niger.

It was not until maybe my university or even after University that I realised that what I was taught all those years ago was wrong and the text books that I read about the river Niger was wrong.

For me Ibo, is just the spelling of the English mispronunciation of the word Igbo. Let me give you another example of the spelling of the English mispronunciation of an Igbo word. Awka, which is the capital of Anambra state. "Awka" is not an Igbo spelling, but an English spelling. The Igbo spelling should be Okaa, with a dot under the O.

Another example is Enugu. Enugu, is the English spelling of the mispronounced Igbo word, Enugwu, which means on top of a hill.

So sir, the fact that your generation and the books you read said Ibo and not Igbo, does not make Ibo right.

Thank you.
Everyone knew the Mungo Park stuff was cock-and-bull even in the Colonial era.
Yes, I'm aware of those so-called anglicised words.

Sokoto is spelled Sakwato in Hausa. Owerri is spelled Owere in the local dialect, etc.
Onitsha is Onicha locally. Enugu as you said is actually Enugwu.


The Esan people of Edo State [Esan-Edo] too said changed their spelling from Ishan long ago. The
Esans originally migrated from Benin about 500 years ago because of social crises that existed in
the Bini Kingdom then. Esans and Bini-Edos are related to one another and share Edo names,
and similar cultural practices.

My main problem is that these ethnic spelling corrections should have been made in the Colonial
era or right after 1960 when the "British got independence from Nigeria" [pun intended] to make
it easy for everyone. Those spellings have been institutionalised now in official documentation.

The fact is that there was NO "Igbo" ethnic group that existed pre-British colonial era but different
subgroups existed that identified themselves by their subgroup names and spoke their local dialects
such as Mbaise, Ngwa, Owerre, etc. I read in one of the history books that even in Abia State, the different
subgroups do NOT mutually understand one another unless they use "Central Igbo" to communicate.
It was the British colonialist that created the concept of a "Central Ibo" or an Ibo ethnic group for
administrative purposes.

Achebe's published books in the 1960s to about 2000 for instance still had Ibo
in them and Achebe ought to have insisted on using "Igbo" then if he was sure the
spelling "Ibo" was wrong.

Anyhow, we keep trucking. lol

Thanks for the feedback.

Cheers.

NOTE:
I searched for the fuller version link of the Anioma document I indicated I was going to upload for you
but couldn't find it : "Origins and Migrations of the Enuani People of South Central Nigeria Reconsidered" by E.N. Mordi & P.O. Opone
Link to full article: http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/T%20&%20T/T%20&%20T-07-0-000-09-Web/T%20&%20T-07-1-000-09-Abst-PDF/T&T-07-1-047-09-186-Mordi-E-N/T&T-07-1-047-09-186-Mordi-E-N-Tt.pdf

I also grabbed this other one [18 pages] though that I had in my archives, you may wish to read them:
THE BENIN FACTOR IN THE WEST NIGER IGBO HISTORY
https://www.eajournals.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Benin-Factor-in-the-West-Niger-Igbo-History-The-Example-of-Ubulu-Ukwu.pdf

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