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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:22pm On Jul 06, 2022
Courz:


Do you see these pics below? That's IBSA aka Bible Students website. With your First Watchtower magazine and Charles Taze Russell clearly showing. Do you want to deny that too? Do you see the Cross and Crown at the top? Deny this let me see.

How about the 3rd and 4th pics? That's the Links page. The links page has the Word "Bible students" all over it. The page even lists their Global connections showing different locations of Bible Students. Can you see that their own website disagrees with you? IBSA is a long name to call so they are called BIBLE STUDENTS for short. Deny these let me see you disgrace yourself. grin cheesy

When a man forms a business, he is a what? A Businessman. When a law firm is created by a man, he is a what? A lawyer. When a man forms a Freemason Cult, he is a what? A Freemason (Charles Taze Russell). When an organisation owns a Freemason Cult (IBSA), it is a what? A Freemason organisation (Watchtower). You are in a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one. Your Cult is being run by Freemasons! Watchtower is running both a blatant Freemason Cult and a Pseudo- Christian Cult! cool cool

Prove to me that the pictures and the video below are Fake!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

According to the 3 different screenshots below, are "Bible Student Channel" online (with Cross & Crown symbols) ,InternationalBibleAssociation.com &
Jehovah's witnesses JW.org
the same Entity or Organization?

NEVER !!!!

These 3 screenshots PROVEN COURZ PATHOLOGICAL LIAR... Manifests Infantile Delusional Symptoms all the time.
grin grin grin cheesy

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 8:30pm On Jul 06, 2022
Janosky:


According to the 3 different screenshots below, are "Bible Student Channel" online (with Cross & Crown symbols) ,InternationalBibleAssociation.com &
Jehovah's witnesses JW.org
the same Entity or Organization?

NEVER !!!!

These 3 screenshots PROVEN COURZ PATHOLOGICAL LIAR... Manifests Infantile Delusional Symptoms all the time.
grin grin grin cheesy

So, you now see how foolish you look when you were busy denying that IBSA are Bible Students? IBSA = Bible Students. JWs and IBSA/Bible students are One! Bow your head in shamel Do you see these pics below? That's IBSA aka Bible Students website. With your First Watchtower magazine and Charles Taze Russell clearly showing. Do you want to deny that too? Do you see the Cross and Crown at the top? Deny this let me see.

How about the 3rd and 4th pics? That's the Links page. The links page has the Word "Bible students" all over it. The page even lists their Global connections showing different locations of Bible Students. Can you see that their own website disagrees with you? IBSA is a long name to call so they are called BIBLE STUDENTS for short. Deny these let me see you disgrace yourself. grin cheesy

When a man forms a business, he is a what? A Businessman. When a law firm is created by a man, he is a what? A lawyer. When a man forms a Freemason Cult, he is a what? A Freemason (Charles Taze Russell). When an organisation owns a Freemason Cult (IBSA), it is a what? A Freemason organisation (Watchtower). You are in a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one. Your Cult is being run by Freemasons! Watchtower is running both a blatant Freemason Cult and a Pseudo- Christian Cult! cool cool

Prove to me that the pictures and the video below are Fake!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 8:50pm On Jul 06, 2022
Janosky:


According to the 3 different screenshots below, are "Bible Student Channel" online (with Cross & Crown symbols) ,InternationalBibleAssociation.com &
Jehovah's witnesses JW.org
the same Entity

Bow your head in Shame Janosky with a Maggot infested brain! I know that what you are typing is what you are really trying to use to convince yourself. You can't believe what you have just seen. So, you are trying to console yourself! IBSA is separate from JWs But You JWs own IBSA aka Bible Students because Watchtower is a Freemason Cult! You are all Freemasons! You are dedicating your life to a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one! You're a Freemason by association Janosky with your Maggot infested brain. grin grin grin

IBSA are owned by you JWs although they celebrate Christmas, Birthdays and everything else JWs prohibit at the same time stick to the teachings of Russell. Watchtower gets to exhibit its Full Freemason membership through IBSA and at the same time can pretend to be a pseudo Christian Cult through JWs in order to get your Free labor, Money and Donations. Your Governing body are from IBSA So you guys are One no matter how you choose to look at it! Why do you think your Governing body are fascinated by Charles Taze Russell and communicate with him from the dead during their Coven meetings as revealed by Freemason JWs? IBSA love their Charles Taze Russell. grin grin

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 11:13am On Jul 07, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Since you agree with Jesus oya present a better performing group than JWs! cheesy
Dear MaxinDHouse
Do u now see wat I am opening ur eyes to see?...I just stumbled on this thread and I read through...@courz has said all that I av bn refraining myself from saying cos I don't like throwing tantrums...you kept asking him to tell u another option better than JW. He referred u to
John 4:23-24
[23]But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
[24]For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

There is no option to Jesus...it is a service of individual in truth and spirit. All these founders of Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist,JW and wat av u have all failed. There history and foundational teachings are ALL questionable.
We shouldn't be more inclined on denomination...we should focus on individuals relationship with God. When a denomination was attend dish our a teaching...we shouldn't just accept in order to show allegiance...we need to compare then with the scriptures and test every spirit(teaching and doctorine) and lay hold on the truth no matter who it is coming from.
Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Like I always say...u av the potentials...don't subjectively restrict ursef
PEACE

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 12:05pm On Jul 07, 2022
immaculatesense:

Dear MaxinDHouse
Do u now see wat I am opening ur eyes to see?...I just stumbled on this thread and I read through...@courz has said all that I av bn refraining myself from saying cos I don't like throwing tantrums...you kept asking him to tell u another option better than JW. He referred u to
John 4:23-24
[23]But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
[24]For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

There is no option to Jesus...it is a service of individual in truth and spirit. All these founders of Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist,JW and wat av u have all failed. There history and foundational teachings are ALL questionable.
We shouldn't be more inclined on denomination...we should focus on individuals relationship with God. When a denomination was attend dish our a teaching...we shouldn't just accept in order to show allegiance...we need to compare then with the scriptures and test every spirit(teaching and doctorine) and lay hold on the truth no matter who it is coming from.
Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Like I always say...u av the potentials...don't subjectively restrict ursef
PEACE

Thank you for your response. One thing you must understand about JWs is they are under Physical and Spiritual brainwashing. Their leaders dabble in Spiritism as Freemasons. I said it earlier that when you open a bible verse and show it to a JW, there is a spiritual veil covering their eyes preventing them from seeing what the Bible actually says. This is not ordinary. When Watchtower quotes John 4 vs 20 to 24, those verses are Interpreted to mean that the Truth is Jehovah's witnesses. That's all. Meaning those who worship in spirit and Truth are JWs only. But when you read it without Watchtower's interpretation which is the right way to read the Bible, Jesus was actually against Superiority of one religion over another! Mad MaxInDHouse spoke like the Samaritan woman but Jesus was correcting her false notion by saying that the time has come when there will be no need for physical buildings or allegiance to denominations or superiority of one religion over another. He said Where you worship doesn't matter. He even said God is looking for people who worship that way, in Spirit and in Truth. It's just like a person telling a group of people[b]I may not be with you physically but I will be there with you in Spirit.[/b]You already know what that person is trying to say. Jesus said He is the Way, The Truth, The life! Anyone worshipping God in Spirit and Truth will follow Jesus only! No allegiance or superiority of denominations! Your focus should be on Jesus because if you are for Jesus, you are for his Father Almighty God. Jesus is even giving an expo on how to worship God in those verses.

A JW will never see that verse this way because they have been brainwashed to view their religion as Superior! This is one of the reasons why JWs are Not regarded as Christians. They don't listen to Jesus. They don't follow him. And that's why Mad MaxInDHouse disregards the words of Jesus in those verses.
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:26pm On Jul 07, 2022
immaculatesense:

Dear MaxinDHouse
Do u now see wat I am opening ur eyes to see?...I just stumbled on this thread and I read through...@courz has said all that I av bn refraining myself from saying cos I don't like throwing tantrums...you kept asking him to tell u another option better than JW. He referred u to
John 4:23-24
[23]But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
[24]For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

There is no option to Jesus...it is a service of individual in truth and spirit. All these founders of Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist,JW and wat av u have all failed. There history and foundational teachings are ALL questionable.
We shouldn't be more inclined on denomination...we should focus on individuals relationship with God. When a denomination was attend dish our a teaching...we shouldn't just accept in order to show allegiance...we need to compare then with the scriptures and test every spirit(teaching and doctorine) and lay hold on the truth no matter who it is coming from.
Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Like I always say...u av the potentials...don't subjectively restrict ursef
PEACE

MaxInDHouse:


I have told you times without number:

You and i aren't worshiping the same God!

So stop thinking there's any similarity between my God and yours the difference is clear.
Please continue worshiping your God while i keep worshiping mine and stop quoting me because it can't work out friendship between you and i.
Goodbye! smiley

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 12:08pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Dear MaxinDHouse
Do u now see wat I am opening ur eyes to see?...I just stumbled on this thread and I read through...@courz has said all that I av bn refraining myself from saying cos I don't like throwing tantrums...you kept asking him to tell u another option better than JW. He referred u to
John 4:23-24
[23]But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
[24]For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

There is no option to Jesus...it is a service of individual in truth and spirit. All these founders of Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist,JW and wat av u have all failed. There history and foundational teachings are ALL questionable.
We shouldn't be more inclined on denomination...we should focus on individuals relationship with God. When a denomination was attend dish our a teaching...we shouldn't just accept in order to show allegiance...we need to compare then with the scriptures and test every spirit(teaching and doctorine) and lay hold on the truth no matter who it is coming from.
Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Like I always say...u av the potentials...don't subjectively restrict ursef
PEACE
"There is no option to Jesus", Agreed.

"You don't like throwing tantrums,But all your pastorpreneurs and you immaculateSense, have all the Masonic symbols of Pyramids, Cross & Crown in your Church, house & business premises (screenshots).

Courz says "Jehovah is Lucifer" & you Immaculate supporting that blesphemy ?
Your deluded friend,Courz is LYING desperately to ALTER my posts as well as MaxInDHouse & attach FALSE labels to Jehovah's servants & committing blasphemy against Jehovah's name, you believe him.


You are another Courz low grade grin

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 12:35pm On Jul 09, 2022
Janosky:

"There is no option to Jesus", Agreed.

"You don't like throwing tantrums,But all your pastorpreneurs and you immaculateSense, have all the Masonic symbols of Pyramids, Cross & Crown in your Church, house & business premises (screenshots).

Courz says "Jehovah is Lucifer" & you Immaculate supporting that blesphemy ?
Your deluded friend,Courz is LYING desperately to ALTER my posts as well as MaxInDHouse & attach FALSE labels to Jehovah's servants & committing blasphemy against Jehovah's name, you believe him.


You are another Courz low grade grin
Dear Janosky
I don't want u to misunderstand my comment as regards the topic ur discussing.
I bliv in Jehovah...that bn said
My point and the reason I tagged MaxinDHouse is not to support court again u guys but to reaffirm wat av bn saying the Christ shud be our foundation and that shud be the only person our loyalty shud go to...no denomination...cos wen we research ALL denominations we will find fault in one or two areas...so,we must leave argument on denominational grounds but start talking accepting or jettisoning some things and not be subjective because of OUR denominational leanings that becloud OUR objective reasoning.I myself am faults in my denomination but I live my life by the scriptures not denomination...cos no denomination mirrors Christ perfectly but the scriptures mirrors Christ perfectly and objectively
Dats my point SIMPLE

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 12:44pm On Jul 09, 2022
Courz:


Jesus was actually against Superiority of one religion over another! [/b]Mad MaxInDHouse spoke like the Samaritan woman but Jesus was correcting her false notion by saying that the time has come when there will be no need for physical buildings or allegiance to denominations or superiority of one religion over another. [b]He said Where you worship doesn't matter. He even said God is looking for people who worship that way, in Spirit and in Truth. It's just like a person telling a group of people[b]I may not be with you physically but I will be there with you in Spirit.[/b]You already know what that person is trying to say. Jesus said He is the Way, The Truth, The life! Anyone worshipping God in Spirit and Truth will follow Jesus only! No allegiance or superiority of denominations! Your focus should be on Jesus because if you are for Jesus, you are for his Father Almighty God. Jesus is even giving an expo on how to worship God in those verses.

A JW will never see that verse this way because they have been brainwashed to view their religion as Superior! This is one of the reasons why JWs are Not regarded as Christians. They don't listen to Jesus. They don't follow him. And that's why Mad MaxInDHouse disregards the words of Jesus in those verses.
Infantile delusional symptoms of Courz manifest. grin

Matthew 5:20 , Jesus speaks:
"For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven"

Isaiah43:10,Acts 3:13,is Jesus Christ a servant of Jehovah God?
Yes, Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness.

Matthew 5:20 & Acts 3:13, is the religion practiced by Jesus Christ,a Jehovah's witness, superior to the religion of the Scribes & Pharisees?

Capital YES !!!!

Courz delusional con artist is a LIAR on Nairaland grin grin
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 1:17pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Dear Janosky
I don't want u to misunderstand my comment as regards the topic ur discussing.
I bliv in Jehovah...that bn said
My point and the reason I tagged MaxinDHouse is not to support court again u guys but to reaffirm wat av bn saying the Christ shud be our foundation and that shud be the only person our loyalty shud go to...no denomination...cos wen we research ALL denominations we will find fault in one or two areas...so,we must leave argument on denominational grounds but start talking accepting or jettisoning some things and not be subjective because of OUR denominational leanings that becloud OUR objective reasoning.I myself am faults in my denomination but I live my life by the scriptures not denomination...cos no denomination mirrors Christ perfectly but the scriptures mirrors Christ perfectly and objectively
Dats my point SIMPLE
Oga, I have few questions for you:



Acts 3:13 &Matthew 5:20, did Jesus pledge allegiance to Scribes and Pharisees?

Hebrews 11:25,whom did Moses pledge allegiance to?
Whom did Rahab pledge allegiance to?
2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21,who owns the Group that Moses pledge his allegiance to?

Hebrews 11:25, Will Moses pledge allegiance to Jehovah's people and identify with Pharoah's household?


Courz admitted that his videos and pictures are NOT similar to JWs website videos and you are still cheesy

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 1:40pm On Jul 09, 2022
Janosky:

Oga, I have few questions for you:



Acts 3:13 &Matthew 5:20, did Jesus pledge allegiance to Scribes and Pharisees?

Hebrews 11:25,whom did Moses pledge allegiance to?
Whom did Rahab pledge allegiance to?
2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21,who owns the Group that Moses pledge his allegiance to?

Hebrews 11:25, Will Moses pledge allegiance to Jehovah's people and identify with Pharoah's household?


Courz admitted that his videos and pictures are NOT similar to JWs website videos and you are still cheesy
Dear Janosky
If u don't get my point no problem...was I bn specific about JW? Or do u wanna deny the both Charles Taze Russell and WatchTower published predictions from 1878,1914,1925,1968,1975 about second coming and Ressurrection?...do u wanna deny that many of ur congregation sold the property,quit their jobs amongst others just to await those days but were disappointed?

Here is my point...if u come to all other denomination,u will see that denominationalism has failed us...but the scriptures and Christ has not...the fact that I belong to a denomination doesn't mean I shud take everything they throw at me...I don't who such allegiance to denomination...only to Christ.

Here is my watchword:
I ONLY BELIEVE IN YOU WORD(NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE TO ME OR YOU POSITION IN CHURCH) AS LONG AD YOU ARE IN LINE WITH THE WORD. COS MY ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE WORD NOT YOU.

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52pm On Jul 09, 2022
Janosky:

Oga, I have few questions for you:
Acts 3:13 &Matthew 5:20, did Jesus pledge allegiance to Scribes and Pharisees?
Hebrews 11:25,whom did Moses pledge allegiance to?
Whom did Rahab pledge allegiance to?
2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21,who owns the Group that Moses pledge his allegiance to?
Hebrews 11:25, Will Moses pledge allegiance to Jehovah's people and identify with Pharoah's household?
Courz admitted that his videos and pictures are NOT similar to JWs website videos and you are still cheesy

I believe there's just one difference between the worshipers of Jehovah and Satan's agents:

Singling out the organization under God's control!

While Satan's agents just feel like all religions should be acceptable after all they all meant to serve the same God, Jehovah's worshipers are keenly interested in IDENTIFYING the group or organization under God's control.

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to the same God but God accepted one and rejected the other, ever since then lovers of God have always been searching for the form of worship acceptable to God and to join those practicing it.
Moses lived in Egypt but he preferred being an Israelite.
Rahab lived in Jericho but preferred being an Israelite.
Ruth the Moabite chose to be an Israelite.
Uriah the Hittite love to be an Israelite even fighting against his own people because he discovered that the Israelites had God's approval.
The Samaritan woman who met Jesus at Jacob's well insisted on knowing which side Jehovah approves is it the worship of Jews or that of the Samaritans or perhaps God approves both after all they're all Israelites.
The Jews that killed Jesus and later started searching for his disciples to eradicate them were doing so because Jesus claimed that only those following him will be saved and that's exactly what his disciples were saying.
Had it been they accepted other religions as fellow believers they won't have any issue with their fellow Jews!


So whenever i find someone arguing against the idea of the only organization practicing pure worship i quickly cut them off my mention, they can't be my brother in the faith. Matthew 12:46-50

Jesus sent me out in search of my lost brothers and sisters are out there practicing different forms of religions Hindu, Buddha, Islam, Christendom, Traditionalists and others.
How do i recognize them?
It's by chatting with them as they insist on one God and one form of worship with which all adherents must have the same line of thought! John 17:22
Once i find such a person i know he/she is one of my lost brothers Jesus asked me to search for, but even though you're worshiping with JWs as long as you feel all forms of worship are OK then you can't be my brother in faith.
Oteneaaron (Courz) is not against JWs because members of the group are committing any evil that's not common in all other religions but he detests the group for insisting that they're the one and only organization of the true God.


So if he had lived back then when most nations were looking forward to exterminate the Israelites for their insistence on being the only organization worshiping the true God oteneaaron (Courz) will surely be among those battle prepared to kill the Israelites even though he had no business with them! wink

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


I believe there's just one difference between the worshipers of Jehovah and Satan's agents:

Singling out the organization under God's control!

While Satan's agents just feel like all religions should be acceptable after all they all meant to serve the same God, Jehovah's worshipers are keenly interested in IDENTIFYING the group or organization under God's control.

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to the same God but God accepted one and rejected the other, ever since then lovers of God have always been searching for the form of worship acceptable to God and to join those practicing it.
Moses lived in Egypt but he preferred being an Israelite.
Rahab lived in Jericho but preferred being an Israelite.
Ruth the Moabite chose to be an Israelite.
Uriah the Hittite love to be an Israelite even fighting against his own people because he discovered that the Israelites had God's approval.
The Samaritan woman who met Jesus at Jacob's well insisted on knowing which side Jehovah approves is it the worship of Jews or that of the Samaritans or perhaps God approves both after all they're all Israelites.
The Jews that killed Jesus and later started searching for his disciples to eradicate them were doing so because Jesus claimed that only those following him will be saved and that's exactly what his disciples were saying.
Had it been they accepted other religions as fellow believers they won't have any issue with their fellow Jews!


So whenever i find someone arguing against the idea of the only organization practicing pure worship i quickly cut them off my mention, they can't be my brother in the faith. Matthew 12:46-50

Jesus sent me out in search of my lost brothers and sisters are out there practicing different forms of religions Hindu, Buddha, Islam, Christendom, Traditionalists and others.
How do i recognize them?
It's by chatting with them as they insist on one God and one form of worship with which all adherents must have the same line of thought! John 17:22
Once i find such a person i know he/she is one of my lost brothers Jesus asked me to search for, but even though you're worshiping with JWs as long as you feel all forms of worship are OK then you can't be my brother in faith.
Oteneaaron (Courz) is not against JWs because members of the group are committing any evil that's not common in all other religions but he detests the group for insisting that they're the one and only organization of the true God.


So if he had lived back then when most nations were looking forward to exterminate the Israelites for their insistence on being the only organization worshiping the true God oteneaaron (Courz) will surely be among those battle prepared to kill the Israelites even though he had no business with them! wink

Lol...was Jethro and Balaam Israelites?...didnt Balaam hermar from God and talk to God like any other prophet in Israel?
God as bn the God of all nations from the beginning... salvation comes from the Jews not belong to the Jews alone...God av always received people from all nation's who are obedient to him from the beginning of the world.
NO DENOMINATION CAN LAY CLAIM TO SALVATION...EVEN THE JEWS CAN NO LONGER LAY CLAIM TO THAT ANYMORE...DO,WHY WILL A DENOMINATION THAT COMES FROM A FAULTY FOUNDER LAY CLAIM...THAT IS BLASPHEMY ON IT OWN

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 2:47pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Lol...was Jethro and Balaam Israelites?...didnt Balaam hermar from God and talk to God like any other prophet in Israel?
God as bn the God of all nations from the beginning... salvation comes from the Jews not belong to the Jews alone...God av always received people from all nation's who are obedient to him from the beginning of the world.
NO DENOMINATION CAN LAY CLAIM TO SALVATION...EVEN THE JEWS CAN NO LONGER LAY CLAIM TO THAT ANYMORE...DO,WHY WILL A DENOMINATION THAT COMES FROM A FAULTY FOUNDER LAY CLAIM...THAT IS BLASPHEMY ON IT OWN

That they even went ahead to publish a book titled

"Pure worship restored at last"


should tell you the whole story about the organisation and its agenda regarding interpretation of the scripture when they knew

James 1:27 states....

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Emphasis on ONESELF not GROUPSELF grin or ORGANIZATION SELF or DENOMINATION SELF grin grin grin

Their religious leaders aka governing body have said they are not inspired and make mistakes and errors in doctrines and organization directions in reality they cannot be trustworthy regarding interpretation of the scriptures. The reason you see them hiding behind light getting brighter or present truth becoming past truth and even projecting future truth. grin grin grin grin

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:06pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Lol...was Jethro and Balaam Israelites?...didnt Balaam hermar from God and talk to God like any other prophet in Israel?
Name just one servant of God that spoke against Jerusalem claiming there is worship elsewhere approved by God!
God only approve the worship of one organization never has He approved two at a time no matter the error of His servants God only corrects them as long as they're willing to make amendments and that's exactly what the Watchtower organization is doing no wonder all of you can't find another group producing the same kind of fruit like Jehovah's Witnesses!
immaculatesense:

God as bn the God of all nations from the beginning... salvation comes from the Jews not belong to the Jews alone...God av always received people from all nation's who are obedient to him from the beginning of the world.
NO DENOMINATION CAN LAY CLAIM TO SALVATION...EVEN THE JEWS CAN NO LONGER LAY CLAIM TO THAT ANYMORE...DO,WHY WILL A DENOMINATION THAT COMES FROM A FAULTY FOUNDER LAY CLAIM...THAT IS BLASPHEMY ON IT OWN

God is the Creator of all but when it comes to worship He specified how things should be done and only the organization practicing it He approves not all organisations that's why He's been fighting in support of Israel!

We know your churches has disappointed you people that's what Jesus meant when he said:

Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’
You guys are ashamed of your religions that has failed you so none of you can boldly speak in the public about your so called churches the same way JWs do! Revelations 6:16

But as for us we have every reason to rejoice over God's organization because we are producing the fruitage of FAITH just as it's written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

We're not saying there is no mistakes but the mistakes doesn't mean our God will approve any other form of worship apart from Watchtower, that's why none of you can present a better performing group despite all your arguments! smiley
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 3:09pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


This thread has disqualified all other religions claiming Christians today!

Is The Watchtower Organization A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scriptures?

Answer:

YES!

If anyone has a better option then present it. Period! smiley

The thread says

Is The Watchtower Organization A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scriptures?

And your religious organisation and leaders aka GB gladly answered by stating in one of their publications that


The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction

and they added


Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food

This thread just equally nailed your religious organisation as sharing common denominator with every other out there. Learn and keep learning.

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 3:15pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Name just one servant of God that spoke against Jerusalem claiming there is worship elsewhere approved by God!
God only approve the worship of one organization never has Her approved two at a time no matter the error of His servants God only corrects them as long as they're willing to make amendments and that's exactly what the Watchtower organization is doing no wonder all of you can't find another group producing the same kind of fruit like Jehovah's Witnesses!


God is the Creator of all but when it comes to worship He specified how things should be done and only the organization practicing it He approves not all organisations that's why He's been fighting in support of Israel!

We know your churches has disappointed you people that's what Jesus meant when he said:

Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’
You guys are ashamed of your religions that has failed you so none of you can boldly speak in the public about your so called churches the same way JWs do! Revelations 6:16

But as for us we have every reason to rejoice over God's organization because we are producing the fruitage of FAITH just as it's written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

We're not saying there is no mistakes but the mistakes doesn't mean our God will approve any other form of worship apart from Watchtower, that's why none of you can present a better performing group despite all your arguments! smiley
Did Balaam offer those sacrifices to God in Israel?
I don't speak to people about churches...I speak to unbelievers about Christ...that is d assignment he gave to me...he didn't give me denomination

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 3:17pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Name just one servant of God that spoke against Jerusalem claiming there is worship elsewhere approved by God!
God only approve the worship of one organization never has Her approved two at a time no matter the error of His servants God only corrects them as long as they're willing to make amendments and that's exactly what the Watchtower organization is doing no wonder all of you can't find another group producing the same kind of fruit like Jehovah's Witnesses!


God is the Creator of all but when it comes to worship He specified how things should be done and only the organization practicing it He approves not all organisations that's why He's been fighting in support of Israel!

We know your churches has disappointed you people that's what Jesus meant when he said:

Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’
You guys are ashamed of your religions that has failed you so none of you can boldly speak in the public about your so called churches the same way JWs do! Revelations 6:16

But as for us we have every reason to rejoice over God's organization because we are producing the fruitage of FAITH just as it's written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

We're not saying there is no mistakes but the mistakes doesn't mean our God will approve any other form of worship apart from Watchtower, that's why none of you can present a better performing group despite all your arguments! smiley


We're not saying there is no mistakes but the mistakes doesn't mean our God will approve any other form of worship apart from Watchtower, that's why none of you can present a better performing group despite all your arguments!


God will overlook the mistakes of your religious organization and keep approving them but

that same God will not overlook the mistakes of other Christian denominations and keep approving them despite being in existence long before yours which is just +/-140 years and that same God will kill members of other Christian denominations over their mistakes abi? grin grin grin grin grin

Apply intelligence, that same God Peter said is not PARTIAL apply intelligence except the God under discussion is different grin grin grin grin

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 3:23pm On Jul 09, 2022
achorladey:


That they even went ahead to publish a book titled

"Pure worship restored at last"


should tell you the whole story about the organisation and its agenda regarding interpretation of the scripture when they knew

James 1:27 states....

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Emphasis on ONESELF not GROUPSELF grin or ORGANIZATION SELF or DENOMINATION SELF grin grin grin

Their religious leaders aka governing body have said they are not inspired and make mistakes and errors in doctrines and organization directions in reality they cannot be trustworthy regarding interpretation of the scriptures. The reason you see them hiding behind light getting brighter or present truth becoming past truth and even projecting future truth. grin grin grin grin
Sir...the tin still baffles me how a denomination that has so many flaws and their founder Charles Taze Russell lying about Jesus second coming three consecutive times and their watchtower lied of Jesus coming for 6 consecutive times still lay claim on bn the true church...is that not funny?...is church denomination or a body of believers in Christ all accross the world...no matter the race,gender or tongue...

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 3:25pm On Jul 09, 2022
achorladey:






God will overlook the mistakes of your religious organization and keep approving them but

that same God will not overlook the mistakes of other Christian denominations and keep approving them despite being in existence long before yours which is just +/-140 years and that same God will kill members of other Christian denominations over their mistakes abi? grin grin grin grin grin

Apply intelligence, that same God Peter said is not PARTIAL apply intelligence except the God under discussion is different grin grin grin grin
I wonder ooo...

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:36pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Did Balaam offer those sacrifices to God in Israel?
I don't speak to people about churches...I speak to unbelievers about Christ...that is d assignment he gave to me...he didn't give me denomination
Balaam offered sacrifices to which God?
Whatever your submission is none of my business Jesus has an organization and that organization need to be IDENTIFIED in the midst of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
That's why He spoke about his group that people will notice throughout the world {Matthew 5:13-16} surely no group has measured up to that standard except the JWs that's why all of you are silent about your sects as you can't present the WORKS expected of faith being done in those religions.

When Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" he's referring to different sects claiming denominations but each group has it's fruit just like a tree, you can't speak against a group producing fine fruit simply because they made mistakes because all groups are formed by imperfect humans but only the group having the backing of God's Holy Spirit can produce the FRUIT of faith despite the fact that members are imperfect like all other religions.

Can a good tree produce routine fruit?
Jesus is asking you, if you can't find a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses then never equate the tree with any other tree. Speak of the tree under which you're working! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 3:46pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Sir...the tin still baffles me how a denomination that has so many flaws and their founder Charles Taze Russell lying about Jesus second coming three consecutive times and their watchtower lied of Jesus coming for 6 consecutive times still lay claim on bn the true church...is that not funny?...is church denomination or a body of believers in Christ all accross the world...no matter the race,gender or tongue...

It is the concept called "ORGANIZATION" which is equal to "GOD" sold to them by their religious leaders that is the main problem. Until their members start to rethink that concept will they know where they are in the scheme of things.

And Peter, having opened the mouth, said, "Of a truth I understand that God is not One who shows partiality,but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 3:51pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Balaam offered sacrifices to which God?
Whatever your submission is none of my business Jesus has an organization and that organization need to be IDENTIFIED in the midst of over 41,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
That's why He spoke about his group that people will notice throughout the world {Matthew 5:13-16} surely no group has measured up to that standard except the JWs that's why all of you are silent about your sects as you can't present the WORKS expected of faith being done in those religions.

When Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" he's referring to different sects claiming denominations but each group has it's fruit just like a tree, you can't speak against a group producing fine fruit simply because they made mistakes because all groups are formed by imperfect humans but only the group having the backing of God's Holy Spirit can produce the FRUIT of faith despite the fact that members are imperfect like all other religions.

Can a good tree produce routine fruit?
Jesus is asking you, if you can't find a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses then never equate the tree with any other tree. Speak of the tree under which you're working! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley


Jesus never, I repeat no get an ORGANIZATION. Carry your interpretations that cannot be supported using the Bible comot. Your religious organisation teach conflicting doctrines even within itself not to talk of when compared with other Christian denominations that's why you view your members hypocritically or with suspicious eyes and sometimes EXPEL them when they examine those conflicting doctrines within your religious organisation grin grin grin grin

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:53pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Sir...the tin still baffles me how a denomination that has so many flaws and their founder Charles Taze Russell lying about Jesus second coming three consecutive times and their watchtower lied of Jesus coming for 6 consecutive times still lay claim on bn the true church...is that not funny?...is church denomination or a body of believers in Christ all accross the world...no matter the race,gender or tongue...

Despite all these stories about their mistakes that's the one and only organization promoting LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23}
So are they perfect humans? NO!
Are they meeting up with expectations? YES!

God promised that his people will gather millions throughout the earth and erase politics, racism and military services among themselves, and in replacement of that they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will no longer produce weapons neither will they learn wars anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Despite all the mistakes you're talking about only this group has produced this out of all the religions claiming Christians throughout the earth.
So if your religion has failed you don't think ours is the same as yours, God's people are progressing in producing the fruitage of FAITH no matter their past errors! smiley

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 3:59pm On Jul 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Despite all these stories about their mistakes that's the one and only organization promoting LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23}
So are they perfect humans? NO!
Are they meeting up with expectations? YES!

God promised that his people will gather millions throughout the earth and erase politics, racism and military services among themselves, and in replacement of that they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will no longer produce weapons neither will they learn wars anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Despite all the mistakes you're talking about only this group has produced this out of all the religions claiming Christians throughout the earth.
So if your religion has failed you don't think ours is the same as yours, God's people are progressing in producing the fruitage of FAITH no matter their past errors! smiley

MaxInDHouse using one side of his mouth....

Despite all these stories about their mistakes that's the one and only organization promoting LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23}
So are they perfect humans? NO!
Are they meeting up with expectations? YES!


MaxInDHouse using the other side of his mouth........


Despite all this Jehovah’s witnesses are sinners like every other Christian denominations out there and are influenced by the Devil just like others.



In reality they cannot be the only one organization promoting the fruitage of the spirit. Apply intelligence.

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 4:16pm On Jul 09, 2022
immaculatesense:

Sir...the tin still baffles me how a denomination that has so many flaws and their founder Charles Taze Russell lying about Jesus second coming three consecutive times and their watchtower lied of Jesus coming for 6 consecutive times still lay claim on bn the true church...is that not funny?...is church denomination or a body of believers in Christ all accross the world...no matter the race,gender or tongue...
Oga, use your Bible answer these questions....
John 21:15-17, Jesus loves Peter so much & gave him a Special assignment.
Galatians 2:11-14 & Matthew 26:69-75, Oga how many times did Peter betray Jesus & practice Racism & LYING?
Luke 24:21,25 is it funny that Jesus call the disciples "Foolish"?
Is Nigeria among the 20 Most Developed Country as prophecied by your reverred god of men in 2010?
According to the screenshots, are your fellow 3 deities worshippers worthy examples of genuine Christlike living?

JWs are not infallible, but we are exceptional.
Do anyhow & receive discipline, 1 Corinthians 5:1-13.
Jehovah God doesn't pamper unrepentant sinners.
Oga, face your Christendom and clean out the rafters inside.

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 5:05pm On Jul 09, 2022
achorladey:


MaxInDHouse using one side of his mouth....

MaxInDHouse using the other side of his mouth........

In reality they cannot be the only one organization promoting the fruitage of the spirit. Apply intelligence.
Did Judas Iscariot " the son of destruction " enter Jehovah's kingdom?
Oga,go & delete Hebrew 10:35-39 from your Bible nau & apply your intelligence of apostates, atheists & 3 deities worshippers who already PROVEN they are far from Jehovah's standards.
grin grin

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 5:06pm On Jul 09, 2022
Janosky:

Infantile delusional symptoms of Courz manifest. grin

Matthew 5:20 , Jesus speaks:
"For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven"

Isaiah43:10,Acts 3:13,is Jesus Christ a servant of Jehovah God?
Yes, Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness.

Matthew 5:20 & Acts 3:13, is the religion practiced by Jesus Christ,a Jehovah's witness, superior to the religion of the Scribes & Pharisees?

Capital YES !!!!

Courz delusional con artist is a LIAR on Nairaland grin grin

Bow your head in Shame Janosky with a Maggot infested brain! I know that what you are typing is what you are really trying to use to convince yourself. You can't believe what you have just seen. So, you are trying to console yourself! IBSA is separate from JWs But You JWs own IBSA aka Bible Students because Watchtower is a Freemason Cult! You are all Freemasons! You are dedicating your life to a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one! You're a Freemason by association Janosky with your Maggot infested brain. grin grin grin

IBSA are owned by you JWs although they celebrate Christmas, Birthdays and everything else JWs prohibit at the same time stick to the teachings of Russell. Watchtower gets to exhibit its Full Freemason membership through IBSA and at the same time can pretend to be a pseudo Christian Cult through JWs in order to get your Free labor, Money and Donations. Your Governing body are from IBSA So you guys are One no matter how you choose to look at it! Why do you think your Governing body are fascinated by Charles Taze Russell and communicate with him from the dead during their Coven meetings as revealed by Freemason JWs? IBSA love their Charles Taze Russell.

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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 5:07pm On Jul 09, 2022
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 5:23pm On Jul 09, 2022
A Cult for the Freemasons, by the Freemasons! grin grin cheesy smiley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR_axbVcT94

Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by oteneaaron(m): 5:41pm On Jul 09, 2022
achorladey:


That they even went ahead to publish a book titled

"Pure worship restored at last"


should tell you the whole story about the organisation and its agenda regarding interpretation of the scripture when they knew

James 1:27 states....

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Emphasis on ONESELF not GROUPSELF grin or ORGANIZATION SELF or DENOMINATION SELF grin grin grin

Their religious leaders aka governing body have said they are not inspired and make mistakes and errors in doctrines and organization directions in reality they cannot be trustworthy regarding interpretation of the scriptures. The reason you see them hiding behind light getting brighter or present truth becoming past truth and even projecting future truth. grin grin grin grin

Where have you been man?

Hope you've been good?

Good to hear from you again.

Tis been a while.

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