jaephoenix:

Lol. This is getting more ridiculous. But let me oblige you, bro

I got some literature about Ochsner-Sherren and circled when the treatment was instituted. What year did you see there?

Explain what the kind of treatment is all about. And give evidencies of its practice in Nigeria as at 1990. I'll ask my mum this week about the full details of how my dad got healed by God's grace.

RoyalDiadems:


So, am I my dad? I said I don't have personal medical experience? Would you force one on me?

Pick the holes in the testimonies. Does that change the fact that they happened. Would your holes erase them from my memories? Or would it go back in time to erase the occurrence of the events?

Repeat them and convince me. Simples

RoyalDiadems:


I'm not in Lagos. But I can pray for them over the phone, and God would still do His work.

Good. So if u pray, and the babies don't turn, what should it do to u or call u and ur god?

jaephoenix:

Repeat them and convince me. Simples

Convince you? I'm not here to convince you. Why should I? You have your life to live and your eternity to chose. I chose mine.

jaephoenix:

Good. So if u pray, and the babies don't turn, what should it do to u or call u and ur god?

Look, we pray, and God acts. If He chooses not to act, He doesn't cease from being God. The same way my dad never ceases from being dad if he didn't give me what I asked him.

However, I'm 100% certain that those women would see a miracle.

RoyalDiadems:


Explain what the kind of treatment is all about. And give evidencies of its practice in Nigeria as at 1990. I'll ask my mum this week about the full details of how my dad got healed by God's grace.

Ogbeni, I explained the regimen to u that day. I don't understand the second part of your question. R u saying Ochsner-Sherren started after 1990 in Nigeria. Something that was in practice in the UK in 1930 hasn't reached Nigeria by 1990? That's 60 years. Even if Nigeria is a stone aged country and ur father is in a backwater country hospital, aint no way OS wouldnt even be instituted. U r just to ridiculous.

jaephoenix:

But u have been talking about him here since 3 hours now, even trying to convince LordReed and I. Why back out now at the crunch time?

Lordreed was the one I was talking to not you. You interjected into some of my discussions with Lordreed. I answered you because of Lordreed. Not because of you. Just as I'll pray for those women because of my compassion for those women, not because of you. Neither God nor I would do anything just for the purpose of convincing a mortal man.

Lordreed didn't come off as someone who wants to argue. And that's true from our conversations.

RoyalDiadems:


Convince you? I'm not here to convince you. Why should I? You have your life to live and your eternity to chose. I chose mine.

U ll be killing 2 birds with 1 stone, bro

RoyalDiadems:


Look, we pray, and God acts. If He chooses not to act, He doesn't cease from being God. The same way my dad never ceases from being dad if he didn't give me what I asked him.

However, I'm 100% certain that those women would see a miracle.

U see why I don't take christians serious? In one breath u r saying God might sit back and watch you fail and in the next breath, u r 100% sure he'll heal them. Una be clowns, aswear

RoyalDiadems:


Lordreed was the one I was talking to not you. You interjected into some of my discussions with Lordreed. I answered you because of Lordreed. Not because of you. Just as I'll pray for those women because of my compassion for those women, not because of you. Neither God nor I would do anything just for the purpose of convincing a mortal man.

Lordreed didn't come off as someone who wants to argue. And that's true from our conversations.

LordReed don't argue? Lol. Reed cuman see something oh

jaephoenix:

Ogbeni, I explained the regimen to u that day. I don't understand the second part of your question. R u saying Ochsner-Sherren started after 1990 in Nigeria. Something that was in practice in the UK in 1930 hasn't reached Nigeria by 1990? That's 60 years. Even if Nigeria is a stone aged country and ur father is in a backwater country hospital, aint no way OS wouldnt even be instituted. U r just to ridiculous.

Many long time inventions that are already in wide circulation abroad are yet to arrive Nigeria even now in this information age. So, what are you talking about?

I'll ask my mum actually. Whatever she says is what I would finally accept as the truth about the event.

jaephoenix:

U see why I don't take christians serious? In one breath u r saying God might sit back and watch you fail and in the next breath, u r 100% sure he'll heal them. Una be clowns, aswear

God is not anyone's puppet. God is kind but there are certain people He may choose not to heal because of some wickedness in their lives or because of the disdain such persons have had for God. You can't force God under such circumstances.

However, all things being equal, God will heal because He loves.

jaephoenix:

U ll be killing 2 birds with 1 stone, bro

Once I share the truth with you, the ball is in your court.

RoyalDiadems:


Many long time inventions that are already in wide circulation abroad are yet to arrive Nigeria even now in this information age. So, what are you talking about?

I'll ask my mum actually. Whatever she says is what I would finally accept as the truth about the event.

… and it takes 60 years? Bros, dey take am easy as u dey lie. The world is a global village and the something as easy as OS regimen that doesn't require any equipment or procedure would be easy to replicate anywhere

RoyalDiadems:


God is not anyone's puppet. God is kind but there are certain people He may choose not to heal because of some wickedness in their lives or because of the disdain such persons have had for God. You can't force God under such circumstances.

However, all things being equal, God will heal because He loves.

Reread this gibberish and see whether it makes sense to you. Just reread it slowly

RoyalDiadems:


Once I share the truth with you, the ball is in your court.

Yes sir

jaephoenix:

… and it takes 60 years? Bros, dey take am easy as u dey lie. The world is a global village and the something as easy as OS regimen that doesn't require any equipment or procedure would be easy to replicate anywhere

I'll get the facts as I said. So let it rest for now. All liars shall rot in hell.

jaephoenix:

Reread this gibberish and see whether it makes sense to you. Just reread it slowly

Explain the gibberish since you're very wise.

LordReed:

For being a murderer! LMFAO! Bwahahahahaha!

You're wrong Sir, He has no families so when He exterminate murderers it's called JUSTICE!

jaephoenix:

Yeah, right. Which actions did u read

Claiming Atheists and Agnostics just to avoid righteous standards!

jaephoenix:

Whoa. Theist logic! What an example. So why didn't god kill Hitler's parents?

Wrong logic!
Hitler is the killer not his parents Sir!
For your information if God is killing the parents of evildoers then Abraham, Isaac and Jacob supposed to be killed for the errors of their children who are adults!

jaephoenix:

Which still translates into murder. By the way, what crimes did those babies specifically commit

They were given a easy way out instead of allowing them to suffer since their caretakers must be exterminated!

RoyalDiadems:


I'll get the facts as I said. So let it rest for now. All liars shall rot in hell.

Lol. If this is true, then the Christian hell is gonna be populated by millions of Christians. Oh, by the way, about the OS thingy, I know you would drop it cos u already know u r caught. Next time be careful about how u write 'testimonies'

RoyalDiadems:


Explain the gibberish since you're very wise.

Dude, u said God may not heal some certain people cos of their wickedness, and in same breath, u said he'll heal everyone cos he's merciful. How the fucck does your logic and language work?

MaxInDHouse:


Claiming Atheists and Agnostics just to avoid righteous standards!

Lol. I give up. You need a psycho evaluation

MaxInDHouse:


Wrong logic!
Hitler is the killer not his parents Sir!
For your information if God is killing the parents of evildoers then Abraham, Isaac and Jacob supposed to be killed for the errors of their children who are adults!

But u just said the babies that God killed were evil and so r their parents

jaephoenix:

Lol. I give up. You need a psycho evaluation

You must give up, that's our heritage. All those opposing the righteousness of our God must bow as in surrender before wisdom! Isaiah 54 17

MaxInDHouse:

They were given a easy way out instead of allowing them to suffer since their caretakers must be exterminated!

Lol. Wonderful theist logic. So the babies' 'sins' were they were birthed by 'sinful parents'? So they must die for their parents 'sins'? Right. So why don't God provide meals and succor for them? I mean, he's god of love and provided manna for Israelites? Why can't he do the same for innocent babies?

jaephoenix:

But u just said the babies that God killed were evil and so r their parents

You missed the logic!
We kill pests not because they have harmed us but because their parents are harmful and the children has not been given better option that will be fear to us so we kill them even though they've not done anything yet.
The same goes for children born by evildoers where there is no righteous standard to reorientate them of course they will grow up to continue what they knew EVIL!

jaephoenix:

Lol. Wonderful theist logic. So the babies' 'sins' were they were birthed by 'sinful parents'? So they must die for their parents 'sins'? Right. So why don't God provide meals and succor for them? I mean, he's god of love and provided manna for Israelites? Why can't he do the same for innocent babies?

The Israelites were given manna after they've been given God's laws through Moses who brought them out of slavery in Egypt.
So you can't compare that to children who has no one to give them laws nor parents to inculcate such laws in their hearts! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

Wilddove:
I thought i was the only one going through this shit. I have tried all my possible best to convince myself that God exist but to no avail. I don't just know what else to do, i tried listening to sermons but the spirit is not there any longer. I'm totally a changed person.

Satan is lying to you, God's arms are wide opened to welcome you back home.

RoyalDiadems:


I did the same thing you did. Preached in crusades from 1989 to 1992. Laid hands on sick people and got them healed. 1993, the devil got a hold on me, and by 1994, I was ready to become an atheist. What happened to me in 1999 was not my personal undertaking. God got actively involved. Had I lost the Holy Ghost baptism is 2000, I would have become an atheist of the worse kind by now.

I've grown so much in the faith ever since. Infact, today, if I stand to preach, any demon possessed person around me will fall under the power of God. I won't even have to touch or look in their direction.

You spoke in tongues before? What better evidence do you need of God? He promised in the Bible, and you got the promise as it is. What else are you looking for?

Walking with God is sweet. The Presence of God is marvelous. Return home, oh prodigal son. The Father's Love awaits. The everlasting arms are stretched out for you. The bowels of mercy from the eternal God is turned up for you. My heart is moving for you right now as I type. The devil has lost the battle over your life. I break the stronghold of atheism upon your soul. May your inner eyes receive light. Oh my brother! My soul is moved for you. Oh Lord, bless his soul. Rid him from hell. Forgive him Lord. Show him your salvation. I ask it in Jesus mighty name.

I said I can still speak in tongues. I am guessing you thought only Christians speak in tongues, well no, its a phenomenon that was known before Christians started using it. It is not a sign of being special.

Someone on here claimed he could cast out the "demon of atheism" and we did a zoom call during which he prayed and predictably, nothing happened. I have the video on my YouTube channel if you want to see it. You can also try if you want, I am always open to that.