jaephoenix:

Good. Same way the servant of God was supposed to challenge LordReed and call him back to God. Same way RoyalDiadems, the servant of the most high was supposed to challenge Jaephoenix and show him who is God. Simples

Yes!

Not by casting out the demon of Atheism from unwilling 'you'. But by allowing you to witness the move of God in a place, an individual or a congregation. That's what Elijah did.

MaxInDHouse:

Abstain from what you know is wrong based on what the gods you know says.
So if they get to know the true God they will surely comply with his rules!

Is worshipping idols part of god's standard

RoyalDiadems:


I just laugh at your ignorance. God works through faith. The only reason godless people can boast is because majority of those who claim to serve God are hypocrites who are only obsessed with being religious. They don't pursue God, hence, they can't see the hand of God. Religion is bodily exercise that profits nobody.

Regarding Saul, he persecuted Christians because he thought they were anti-God. Paul was doing it in his zeal for God. He never denied God's existence.

1. So any sick christian is faithless?
2. So the Christians that go hungry or broke 'don't pursue god'?
3. So in your books, Saul who was persecuting(maiming, imprisoning and killing christians) is morally better than me cos he believes in a god and I dont?

RoyalDiadems:


Yes!

Not by casting out the demon of Atheism from unwilling 'you'. But by allowing you to witness the move of God in a place, an individual or a congregation. That's what Elijah did.

Good. So make me to witness 'the move of God in a place, an individual or a congregation'. I'm all yours, buddy

jaephoenix:

1. So any sick christian is faithless?
2. So the Christians that go hungry or broke 'don't pursue god'?
3. So in your books, Saul who was persecuting(maiming, imprisoning and killing christians) is morally better than me cos he believes in a god and I dont?

If you don't understand the import of what I said, then go back and read again.

jaephoenix:

Good. So make me to witness 'the move of God in a place, an individual or a congregation'. I'm all yours, buddy

Go where God is working.

jaephoenix:

Is worshipping idols part of god's standard

There's nothing called idols until the true God has been known, all those worshiping their gods (idols) from a sincere hearts have no problem with the true God as long as they don't know better!

RoyalDiadems:


If you don't understand the import of what I said, then go back and read again.

I don't. And still don't get it after reread. So please expantiate

RoyalDiadems:


Go where God is working.

Which is?

MaxInDHouse:


There's nothing called idols until the true God has been known, all those worshiping their gods (idols) from a sincere hearts have no problem with the true God as long as they don't know better!

Quick question. Did the Egyptians get the gospel?

RoyalDiadems:


I do not imply by my statement that he never had any abdominal pain in his life, what I meant was that he never had stomach ache related to appendicitis. However, I may agree with you that he might have been managing series of mild occurrences before the unbearable one surfaced. I'm not in position to dispute that, since I wasn't the victim.

Now, regarding demonically influenced diseases, you're wrong. Not all cases of sickness are demonic but there are some that are clearly demonic.

There's what is called a spirit of infirmity. It is used in the realm of witchcraft to cause diseases. Since you're given only to logic, how can you understand?

We know this because we have seen many healings after casting out the spirit of infirmity.

You may want to look into the link below. Though, the article relates to psychology, but if demons can affect mental health as clinically proven in the article, know for sure that bodily health is also vulnerable to demons.

https://www.peertechzpublications.com/articles/APT-5-135.php

I think you should start looking beyond your medical books. Science isn't perfect yet. Science is still developing. There are still a whole lot of incomprehensible phenomenon.

1. Can you list the illnesses that are caused by the 'Spirit of infirmity'?
2. I went through that article, and to be honest, that was plain, premium, perfect bullshit. There was nothing scientific about that. Under the ICD 10 or even 11, no illness, whether somatic or mental, was listed as a mental disease with demon possession. To make matters worse, the author is not a psychiatrist. There was no scientific corroboration. You know the main thing between science and religion? Its universal corroboration. An experiment done in Lagos can be replicated anywhere, anytime, anytime. I found no other scientific proof or literature talking about demon possession in psychiatric illnesses. None. That Perrotta fellow had the ONLY article talking about it, and he had no proof. He is not a qualified psychiatrist even. Just to make sure I hadn't forgotten my psychiatric knowledge, I chatted up one of my psychiatrist colleague and the dude was laughing at the article. No psychiatric association or body knows anything about that and definitely no demon possession can be proven. Its all lies
Science flies in the face of religion

I remember when covid was new. A doctor said it was demonic. Doctor, not layman. Christian doctor, anyway. That's when I knew religion is a disease

jaephoenix:

Quick question. Did the Egyptians get the gospel?

Even the Israelites never got the gospel until after Jesus has walked the earth so you need understanding Sir!

MaxInDHouse:


Even the Israelites never got the gospel until after Jesus has walked the earth so you need understanding Sir!

Good. So if the Egyptians never got the gospel, why would they be judged to be 'going against God's standard'?

jaephoenix:

Good. So if the Egyptians never got the gospel, why would they be judged to be 'going against God's standard'?

Because they saw with their own eyes that the God of Israel conquered all their gods yet they did not join the Israelites in Goshen to become worshipers of the Almighty God.
Rahab the prostitute of Jericho quickly decided to become a worshiper of the Almighty God with all the members of her house without anyone preaching to her! Joshua 2:9-13

So the standard is not difficult if we want to be sincere!

jaephoenix:

1. Can you list the illnesses that are caused by the 'Spirit of infirmity'?
2. I went through that article, and to be honest, that was plain, premium, perfect bullshit. There was nothing scientific about that. Under the ICD 10 or even 11, no illness, whether somatic or mental, was listed as a mental disease with demon possession. To make matters worse, the author is not a psychiatrist. There was no scientific corroboration. You know the main thing between science and religion? Its universal corroboration. An experiment done in Lagos can be replicated anywhere, anytime, anytime. I found no other scientific proof or literature talking about demon possession in psychiatric illnesses. None. That Perrotta fellow had the ONLY article talking about it, and he had no proof. He is not a qualified psychiatrist even. Just to make sure I hadn't forgotten my psychiatric knowledge, I chatted up one of my psychiatrist colleague and the dude was laughing at the article. No psychiatric association or body knows anything about that and definitely no demon possession can be proven. Its all lies
Science flies in the face of religion

1. I didn't say some ailment types a demonic. So, no list is needed. What I said was that not all 'cases' are demonic. When demons inflict sickness, medical science has no solution to it. It's either it continues to defy medication or, as one sickness heals, another surfaces.

2. The article was for your reference. Since medicine is your field, your submission about the article would be taken as good authority. However, my position on demonic illness isn't based on any article anywhere. Rather, it's based on practical day to day experience.

You see, demons are real and are able to cause diseases. You can't prove that clinically because demons are invisible things. However, their influences cannot be denied.

The matter is like the issues of the mind. You can't see the mind. It's invisible but you can see its influence.

jaephoenix:

Which is?

If you're sincerely searching for God, you'll find Him. You only need to make the right moves in the right direction.

RoyalDiadems:


1. I didn't say some ailment types a demonic. So, no list is needed. What I said was that not all 'cases' are demonic. When demons inflict sickness, medical science has no solution to it. It's either it continues to defy medication or, as one sickness heals, another surfaces.

2. The article was for your reference. Since medicine is your field, your submission about the article would be taken as good authority. However, my position on demonic illness isn't based on any article anywhere. Rather, it's based on practical day to day experience.

You see, demons are real and are able to cause diseases. You can't prove that clinically because demons are invisible things. However, their influences cannot be denied.

The matter is like the issues of the mind. You can't see the mind. It's invisible but you can see its influence.

Whoa. Theist logic. Quite a wonderful thing

Pastor RD: Some diseases are caused by demons
Me: Ok. List diseases caused by demons
Pastor RD: I don't know. I can't prove it but I know
Me: But if u can't prove it, how do you know they are real?
Pastor RD: I said i can't prove it. But I feel it everyday based on my experience
Me: You mean you meet people with demonic diseases regularly?
Pastor RD: My Holy book says they exist, so that means they exist
Me:

Just so u know, psychiatric diseases have organic or somatic causes. That is why there are specific drugs targeted at different parts of the brain to handle them. They aren't demonic, Mr RoyalDiadems

jaephoenix:
Just so u know, psychiatric diseases have organic or somatic causes. That is why there are specific drugs targeted at different parts of the brain to handle them. They aren't demonic, Mr RoyalDiadems

I didn't say psychiatric diseases are demonic. There's no generalization as far as sicknesses are concerned. A lot of diseases are caused by microorganisms and health mismanagement. There are few demonic cases. Those demonic cases may escape your notice since you are not required to follow up the cases of your referred patients to the end. But, pastors handle such cases when they become the last resort where medicine fails. We thank God for medicine too, it has saved many lives.

jaephoenix:

Whoa. Theist logic. Quite a wonderful thing

Pastor RD: Some diseases are caused by demons
Me: Ok. List diseases caused by demons
Pastor RD: I don't know. I can't prove it but I know
Me: But if u can't prove it, how do you know they are real?
Pastor RD: I said i can't prove it. But I feel it everyday based on my experience
Me: You mean you meet people with demonic diseases regularly?
Pastor RD: My Holy book says they exist, so that means they exist
Me:

Atheist and their way of reasoning.

I challenge you to quote me in bold where I said "Some diseases are caused by demons." I said cases. Or, you do not understand what the term 'cases' mean? Cases are determined on individual bases. One person can have the same sickness as the other. For one, it's caused by gems, for the other, it's a demonic affliction. So, what are you listing here? This is simple logic. There's no list. Demons can cause any type of diseases but not all cases of sickness is demonic. I think I've made it simple enough.

Have you seen a spirit before? Can you analyse it In a laboratory? So, calling for proof for an invisible phenomenon is laughable.

Even in psychiatry, not all cases of mental disorder can be cured. Psychiatrist are faced with tons of incurable mental cases till today. Visit mental. Where insanity is caused by demons, no amount of medication can cure it. Some cases of insanity begin after a demonic dream where the person was attacked. You don't actually know anything.

If you want a proof of these things, go to where deliverance sessions are taking place. Go there as a researcher. Don't stay in the hospital and be dabbling into things that are higher than you.

RoyalDiadems:


I didn't say psychiatric diseases are demonic. There's no generalization as far as sicknesses are concerned. A lot of diseases are caused by microorganisms and health mismanagement. There are few demonic cases. Those demonic cases may escape your notice since you are not required to follow up the cases of your referred patients to the end. But, pastors handle such cases when they become the last resort where medicine fails. We thank God for medicine too, it has saved many lives.

Bro, reread what you just said. Youre still saying same thing I did, that psychiatric cases are demon oriented. I didn't say u meant all psychiatric cases. Please can u enlighten me on those cases that pastors eventually healed after referrals. Give me the hospital they went etc. The truth is Nigerians are dishonest. Someone would be told to be taking his haldol everyday and warned that defaulting would cause him to relapse. Instead of continuing the drugs, he stops the drugs and when there is a relapse, his people drag him into the church and tells them the hospitals cannot treat his case. Or happens time after time

RoyalDiadems:


Atheist and their way of reasoning.

I challenge you to quote me in bold where I said "Some diseases are caused by demons." I said cases. Or, you do not understand what the term 'cases' mean? Cases are determined on individual bases. One person can have the same sickness as the other. For one, it's caused by gems, for the other, it's a demonic affliction. So, what are you listing here? This is simple logic. There's no list. Demons can cause any type of diseases but not all cases of sickness is demonic. I think I've made it simple enough.

Have you seen a spirit before? Can you analyse it In a laboratory? So, calling for proof for an invisible phenomenon is laughable.

Even in psychiatry, not all cases of mental disorder can be cured. Psychiatrist are faced with tons of incurable mental cases till today. Visit mental. Where insanity is caused by demons, no amount of medication can cure it. Some cases of insanity begin after a demonic dream where the person was attacked. You don't actually know anything.

If you want a proof of these things, go to where deliverance sessions are taking place. Go there as a researcher. Don't stay in the hospital and be dabbling into things that are higher than you.

Bro, once again, try and inquire from another physician about mental health before spewing trash. Cases are also diseases.
And please, just because our healthcare is poor doesn't mean some diseases are incurable. And yes, some diseases are idiopathic, meaning we don't know the cause. What it means is we haven't gotten the cause yet. Many of cases that have been labelled idiopathic cases now have cures because of scientific research. I gave examples of diabetic foot ulcer, stroke etc
And if u say the idiopathic cases were healed by pastors, please give me examples. Verifiable examples

jaephoenix:

Bro, reread what you just said. Youre still saying same thing I did, that psychiatric cases are demon oriented. I didn't say u meant all psychiatric cases. Please can u enlighten me on those cases that pastors eventually healed after referrals. Give me the hospital they went etc. The truth is Nigerians are dishonest. Someone would be told to be taking his haldol everyday and warned that defaulting would cause him to relapse. Instead of continuing the drugs, he stops the drugs and when there is a relapse, his people drag him into the church and tells them the hospitals cannot treat his case. Or happens time after time

You're right. Most Nigerians fail to follow medical directives, then turn around to blame the system while running the church or fetish priest for help.

In spite of that, God still shows them mercies in very numerous cases.

jaephoenix:

Bro, once again, try and inquire from another physician about mental health before spewing trash. Cases are also diseases.
And please, just because our healthcare is poor doesn't mean some diseases are incurable. And yes, some diseases are idiopathic, meaning we don't know the cause. What it means is we haven't gotten the cause yet. Many of cases that have been labelled idiopathic cases now have cures because of scientific research. I gave examples of diabetic foot ulcer, stroke etc
And if u say the idiopathic cases were healed by pastors, please give me examples. Verifiable examples

The examples are too numerous to mention. How many can I remember?

However, I would advise that you take on a personal research. Visit Prayer City at MFM Headquarters. Tell them your intentions, they'll be very much ready to assist. Also, Dunamis Gospel Centre in Abuja would also be ready to aid your research. In fact, you could view live healing and deliverance sessions on Tuesday mornings if you visit the Headquarters. Everything would happen before your eyes live and direct, and you'll be able to decide whether what you're seeing is fake or real.

Paul Enenche, the Head Pastor of the church and his Wife, Becky Enenche are both medical doctors. They would provide you with documented proofs. Just introduce yourself and make your intentions known.

On Tuesdays, get there early enough to secure a place at the front. The crowd there is always massive. You would see live miracles. You'll see lame people abandoning their wheelchairs and throwing away their sticks. Sick people often come with their diagnosis paper (I don't know what that is called in the hospitals), you'll be able to scrutinize the authenticity of those papers as well as confirm whether a miracle had happened in deed or not.

MFM Prayer City and Dunamis are recommended, not because they're the only places where miracles happen, but because I'm sure they would be willing to cooperate with you and help you on in your research.

RoyalDiadems:


You're right. Most Nigerians fail to follow medical directives, then turn around to blame the system while running the church or fetish priest for help.

In spite of that, God still shows them mercies in very numerous cases.

In what cases? Be specific, sire

RoyalDiadems:


The examples are too numerous to mention. How many can I remember?

However, I would advise that you take on a personal research. Visit Prayer City at MFM Headquarters. Tell them your intentions, they'll be very much ready to assist. Also, Dunamis Gospel Centre in Abuja would also be ready to aid your research. In fact, you could view live healing and deliverance sessions on Tuesday mornings if you visit the Headquarters. Everything would happen before your eyes live and direct, and you'll be able to decide whether what you're seeing is fake or real.

Paul Enenche, the Head Pastor of the church and his Wife, Becky Enenche are both medical doctors. They would provide you with documented proofs. Just introduce yourself and make your intentions known.

On Tuesdays, get there early enough to secure a place at the front. The crowd there is always massive. You would see live miracles. You'll see lame people abandoning their wheelchairs and throwing away their sticks. Sick people often come with their diagnosis paper (I don't know what that is called in the hospitals), you'll be able to scrutinize the authenticity of those papers as well as confirm whether a miracle had happened in deed or not.

MFM Prayer City and Dunamis are recommended, not because they're the only places where miracles happen, but because I'm sure they would be willing to cooperate with you and help you on in your research.

Been there, done that. Bros, I was once a die-hard Christian like you. No be today dem begin arrange miracles. Why'd do u think Pastor Chris was banned from South Africa? So since Enenche is a physician, he can't arrange miracles? I have been in practice many years, 18 years or so. I have seen patients with both terminal and non- terminal cases prayed for on their hospital beds. Nothing happened.Sunday evenings are the worst. They disturb us with the prayers. In the end, the patient is the same. Enenche knows if he tries to convince any of his physician friends that those miracles of his are legit, they would tell him to bring proof and invite him to hospitals to preform them. But he only chooses to do them in his church, where the miracle props are already pre-arranged. Why do u think with so many miracles happening, hospitals are overflowing with sick people. Ogbeni leave talk

jaephoenix:

Been there, done that. Bros, I was once a die-hard Christian like you. No be today dem begin arrange miracles. Why'd do u think Pastor Chris was banned from South Africa? So since Enenche is a physician, he can't arrange miracles? I have been in practice many years, 18 years or so. I have seen patients with both terminal and non- terminal cases prayed for on their hospital beds. Nothing happened.Sunday evenings are the worst. They disturb us with the prayers. In the end, the patient is the same. Enenche knows if he tries to convince any of his physician friends that those miracles of his are legit, they would tell him to bring proof and invite him to hospitals to preform them. But he only chooses to do them in his church, where the miracle props are already pre-arranged. Why do u think with so many miracles happening, hospitals are overflowing with sick people. Ogbeni leave talk

Lol. If you think a church like RCCG has been pre-arranging miracles for 40yrs, you're the joker of the century. What do you think? Enenche would be pre-arranging miracles for almost 30yrs and the bubble no go burst? You must be joking.

Or Maldonado of King Jesus' Ministries USA, would be pre-arranging miracles right there in the USA for almost 40yrs, and continue to remain relevant?

Don't allow the devil to deceive you. My own first encounter with creative miracles was in 1990 during a Reinhard Bonkke Crusade. My mum was one of the Ministers on the crusade ground that year. She prayed for a Muslim boy without knowing the nature of his illness. About 10 minutes after the prayer, the boy's family came to my mum, telling her they were muslims, and that the boy she prayed for was both deaf and dumb, but now he hears and speaks. They later went to testify on the altar.

What kind of fake Christianity were you practicing while you were there? Christianity without power is no Christianity. I wouldn't be a Christian if I can't see the manifestation of God's power.

Tonight, I just finished praying for an old woman who has had a fracture on her leg due to an accident. She has medically treated and now she can walk but the leg still gives her pains, also she isn't balanced in her movements. She uses a walking stick.

According to the woman, she said when I was praying, she felt as though someone was straightening one of her veins on that same leg. She said it was as if the vein was not in good condition, and someone was working on it.

She didn't walk out looking healed on that leg but I know she would return with a testimony. Yeah, another testimony loading. Jesus has started working on the leg already.

David Oyedepo, during the 40th year anniversary of Living Faith Church, he said "It's a proof that we're not faking it. If we've been faking it, we wouldn't have gone this far." He was very correct.

Oyedepo has many enemies. Many of his pastors who left his ministry have one thing or the other against him. Especially, due to the mass sacking of pastors in 2005. He sacked more than 3,000 pastors during the time, and over the years, he has sacked even more and more pastors. A lot of them are disgruntled, but no matter what fault they may find with Oyedepo, no one, and I mean, nobody, can ever say he was faking miracles. Gigantic miracles happen in that ministry.

Let me tell you, Enenche is not afraid of any of his doctor colleagues. That man walks in raw power. Go to his church and challenge him on open TV, you would be amazed what you'll find. Don't come here and spew lies to me. I've witnessed his services live and direct. However, if you want to remain ignorant, it's your choice.

jaephoenix:

In what cases? Be specific, sire

By cases, I mean individual testimonies. I wouldn't share any testimony with you because you'll disbelieve them, and that wouldn't be profitable to you. My advice: Go on a fact-finding tour in those places I recommended to you. Publish your findings openly on national TV. Go to those places with an intention to expose your presumed lies about miracles. Then, let's see what you'll find.

RoyalDiadems:


Lol. If you think a church like RCCG has been pre-arranging miracles for 40yrs, you're the joker of the century. What do you think? Enenche would be pre-arranging miracles for almost 30yrs and the bubble no go burst? You must be joking.

Or Maldonado of King Jesus' Ministries USA, would be pre-arranging miracles right there in the USA for almost 40yrs, and continue to remain relevant?

Don't allow the devil to deceive you. My own first encounter with creative miracles was in 1990 during a Reinhard Bonkke Crusade. My mum was one of the Ministers on the crusade ground that year. She prayed for a Muslim boy without knowing the nature of his illness. About 10 minutes after the prayer, the boy's family came to my mum, telling her they were muslims, and that the boy she prayed for was both deaf and dumb, but now he hears and speaks. They later went to testify on the altar.

What kind of fake Christianity were you practicing while you were there? Christianity without power is no Christianity. I wouldn't be a Christian if I can't see the manifestation of God's power.

Tonight, I just finished praying for an old woman who has had a fracture on her leg due to an accident. She has medically treated and now she can walk but the leg still gives her pains, also she isn't balanced in her movements. She uses a walking stick.

According to the woman, she said when I was praying, she felt as though someone was straightening one of her veins on that same leg. She said it was as if the vein was not in good condition, and someone was working on it.

She didn't walk out looking healed on that leg but I know she would return with a testimony. Yeah, another testimony loading. Jesus has started working on the leg already.

David Oyedepo, during the 40th year anniversary of Living Faith Church, he said "It's a proof that we're not faking it. If we've been faking it, we wouldn't have gone this far." He was very correct.

Oyedepo has many enemies. Many of his pastors who left his ministry have one thing or the other against him. Especially, due to the mass sacking of pastors in 2005. He sacked more than 3,000 pastors during the time, and over the years, he has sacked even more and more pastors. A lot of them are disgruntled, but no matter what fault they may find with Oyedepo, no one, and I mean, nobody, can ever say he was faking miracles. Gigantic miracles happen in that ministry.

Let me tell you, Enenche is not afraid of any of his doctor colleagues. That man walks in raw power. Go to his church and challenge him on open TV, you would be amazed what you'll find. Don't come here and spew lies to me. I've witnessed his services live and direct. However, if you want to remain ignorant, it's your choice.

1. So I took my time to go through your miracle workers.
Pastor Maldonado, who is a divorced wife abuser, has been accused of scams. His 'miracles' were said to scams(though I haven't verified the claims).
Oyedepo, the witch slapper . In saner climes, he should be arrested for physically assaulting a mentally challenged girl, but Nigeria is a far cry from being mildly sane. The same nigga who predicted the Owo killers would be arrested in June, but were only nabbed in August. Oyedepo has so many gaffes. He's not even known for 'miracles'. Shiloh has a medical department that run full time in patient and out patient. Now tell, how can you be claiming he's a miracle merchant when his members depend on medical science for succour? Lol.
Now Reinhard Bonnke. . Reinhard Reinhard, ma nigga. Hushpuppi dey learn work where dis guy dey. He is the worse of these scammers. He never had any miracles in his native Germany but multiple miracles in Africa. Why? He'd be found out! Germany and many countries have strict scamming laws. U do anyhow, u see anyhow. In Africa, especially Nigeria, we encourage scamming. From individual to government. So ogbeni Bonnke strut his stuff here. His most notorious miracle was resurrection of one Nigerian. I read that story, and I picked up many holes. And my holes were corroborated by many news outlets. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rhetoricraceandreligion/2012/05/was-this-guy-really-resurrected.html
From the 'doctor' review, to the lack of death certificate, to the fresh coffin. All of them screamed fake. In fact the guy was so scammy, he couldn't predict his own death, like TB Joshua. Reinhard Bonnke died of throat cancer, which funnily enough probably resulted from his numerous preachings and crusades . Dude couldn't even heal himself. Nor could any of his cronies like Benny Hinn. His other miracles were also scams https://scribalwell./2019/11/25/the-miracles-of-reinhard-bonnke/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pastor-bonnke-lays-claim-to-miracle-cures-andrew-brown-sees-a-german-evangelist-conducting-one-of-his-four-openair-shows-in-birmingham-this-week-1537347.html%3famp

About Enenche, I don't even know how to talk about him. You say he's walking in power and the nigga doesn't know where hospitals and mortuaries are in Abuja? What better way to demonstrate God's power than walking to those places. Remember Jesus didn't have a permanent spot. He was moving from place to place, doing good.
By the way, have you seen any of your conmen heal an amputee? Lol. That one go expose them. They'll rather go with people with 'HIV' etc which can't be verified
There was a paranormal challenge in the world and all the preachers, shamans etc were told to prove they have powers. None of them could do anything https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

2. About your powerful miracles, I have nothing to say to u. I have told you I have some patients booked for elective lower segment C/S. Pray for their babies to verse, yet you were running around in circles

RoyalDiadems:


By cases, I mean individual testimonies. I wouldn't share any testimony with you because you'll disbelieve them, and that wouldn't be profitable to you. My advice: Go on a fact-finding tour in those places I recommended to you. Publish your findings openly on national TV. Go to those places with an intention to expose your presumed lies about miracles. Then, let's see what you'll find.

Many people have done these fact finding missions. Read up the links in my previous posts. There's more from where it came from
The problem of doing such tours in Nigeria is cos I may be assaulted or worse. This country is in the shackles of religion, so no anti-religious mission would work. In fact, the police would even mock me for reporting that I was beaten in a church for checking if their miracles were fake. I'd get "wetin carry you go there?"