Aemmyjah:


It's what the specialist hospital told him
His situation is pitiable
And his companion is a lunatic daughter
I don't want to feel like someone is behind this using evil power in this man

If the optic disc is destroyed, can't do much

jaephoenix:

If the optic disc is destroyed, can't do much

Any general prescription?

jaephoenix:

Because confirming events require scientific resources

All events?!
Science can't confirm everything

Aemmyjah:


Any general prescription?

Let him get bimatoprost eye drop, for all it's worth, if he can afford

Aemmyjah:


All events?!
Science can't confirm everything

It tries to confirm events via research.
My point is science can confirm events that predated biblical events, so why can't those biblical events be confirmed?

jaephoenix:

It tries to confirm events via research.
My point is science can confirm events that predated biblical events, so why can't those biblical events be confirmed?

What scientific evidence can they provide about an event that happened 5000 years ago?
Some archaeologist have said it's possible a deluge appeared. Alfred Wallace is an example

Aemmyjah:



What scientific evidence can they provide about an event that happened 5000 years ago?
Some archaeologist have said it's possible a deluge appeared. Alfred Wallace is an example

1. Artifacts, sarcophagi, lost cities etc of more than 5000 years have been discovered. I don't know how many times I have said it
2. I just went through Alfred Wallace's works. Didn't see any mention or allusion to that. If you see any, do share

jaephoenix:

1. Artifacts, sarcophagi, lost cities etc of more than 5000 years have been discovered. I don't know how many times I have said it
2. I just went through Alfred Wallace's works. Didn't see any mention or allusion to that. If you see any, do share

1. By science right?
2. Go and buy the book Planet Earth- Ice Ages by Windsor Chorlton, 1983.;pages 54, 55, 57... If you really wanna know

Aemmyjah:


1. By science right?
2. Go and buy the book Planet Earth- Ice Ages by Windsor Chorlton, 1983.;pages 54, 55, 57... If you really wanna know

1. Yes by science
2. These days books have links. Or you can copy paste the section that alluded to it

jaephoenix:

1. Yes by science
2. These days books have links. Or you can copy paste the section that alluded to it

1. You yourself knows and acknowledge that science does not have all the answer even though the event is recorded by many legends and history all over the world

Aemmyjah:


1. You yourself knows and acknowledge that science does not have all the answer even though the event is recorded by many legends and history all over the world

I know science doesn't have all the answers, and it tells you itself that its infallible. But you folks say religion has all the answers, yet the so-so-called answers are either confusing, contradictory or lies
2. Please which 'legends and history' recorded the bible events?

jaephoenix:

I know science doesn't have all the answers, and it tells you itself that its infallible. But you folks say religion has all the answers, yet the so-so-called answers are either confusing, contradictory or lies
2. Please which 'legends and history' recorded the bible events?

If it is infallible
It is not sufficient or authoritative enough to dismiss the account of the great deluge.
If I may ask, at what point in your life did you become an atheist? Why?
No good reason for atheism

Aemmyjah:



If it is infallible
It is not sufficient or authoritative enough to dismiss the account of the great deluge.
If I may ask, at what point in your life did you become an atheist? Why?
No good reason for atheism

Good.
1.?Let me ask a question. What if I tell you I flew on wings to UK and back? Would you believe me? Why?
2. Became an atheist way back, like when I started practicing. Getting to 17 years. I observed a lot of patients dying, even with prayers. I had a pastor patient who used to conduct miracles in his church, but he's being managed for diabetes and hypertension. Back when I was in Port Harcourt. Asked a lot of questions about Christianity, then about religion as a whole. Nobody could answer them, including pastors. Finally dug up the answers myself

jaephoenix:

Good.
1.?Let me ask a question. What if I tell you I flew on wings to UK and back? Would you believe me? Why?
2. Became an atheist way back, like when I started practicing. Getting to 17 years. I observed a lot of patients dying, even with prayers. I had a pastor patient who used to conduct miracles in his church, but he's being managed for diabetes and hypertension. Back when I was in Port Harcourt. Asked a lot of questions about Christianity, then about religion as a whole. Nobody could answer them, including pastors. Finally dug up the answers myself

1. In human analogy (for now), it is not possible. Scientists may invent such 'wings' in the future. Today, humans can reach the summit of any mountain even without climbing... I will not believe cos we are not made to fly and we don't have wings. Just as you can buy something with money when you have no money except on credit.


2.
Hmmm
So you became an atheist... Cos you realised there was no God or because you did not seem to get satisfying answers to your questions about him or you don't understand why some things happen which you feel that a loving God should have prevented or solved from happening?
What meaning do you have as an atheist? What joy or satisfaction do you have as an atheist? What were your answers and what was the source of your answers?
We all ask questions. I had mine too. I almost became an atheist, I was always asked to shut up and stop asking too many questions, the hypocrisy was too much. I was struggling with porn, I seem to be enjoying it and getting bored from it at the same time but everyone in the church had it in the gallery including the pastor. I'm not lying, when everyone had gone home (as I always locked the doors after service). He plays it and won't even bother to turn down the volume.
Besides, I'll come late to church and be condemned to go to hellfire without asking why I was late. I could not save, they talk about money so much that our conscience will be telling is we could be bankrupt if we kept our money at home...
I lost faith, I asked questions and was beginning to have a shipwreck of faith in God. Once I wished I was made as an animal not knowing or understanding life or as a Rock or mountain. Life was meaningless. I looked up at night and cursed God as wicked and said he's cruel and so undeserving of worship to watch us suffer... I determined to be an atheist when I leave my parents house and enter the university. But then, I prayed. I didn't know how to pray and I did not like praying for people I don't know to die or thunder strike them and I don't like praying for materialistic wealth. I wrote a letter to God telling him all my feeling, how I felt about him and what I wanted to do and asked he intercede and reveal the truth about himself to me so I will know the truth and worship him with joy or I become an atheist and be a bonafide citizen of hellfire. I never hoped to get an answer cosi placed it under a table in church and later removed it. If I didn't see any answer to my prayers I offered by mouth, na letter wey I hide for under table for pulpit God wan take answer? Me wey no get faith say God de even hear prayer or even mind me
That was a turning point in my life
That's how my happy new life began
Everything was a miracle
If I don't believe God ever answered my prayers, I can't deny that one. I'm so thankful now to be alive, a human and to come to know God. That's part of our purpose. We will never live meaningful life if we don't come to recognize that there is someone that made us and we're not here by accident and only him can tell us WHY we are here and how to find meaning in life. If you leave a tenant in a house that everything is computerized, he'll always be frustrated and unhappy until he receive the guide on how to live in that house. Just as you can't use a boat on a highway or bicycle to cross a lake, we can't derive any satisfaction without knowing the TRUE meaning of HOW we came to be, WHY we are here, HOW to derive meaning in life, WHERE we are going to and these are questions that scientists and philosophy cannot answer... Only God, who is the source of life is. You may deny the evidence but it leave you without hope and reliable guide. Trying to live life without recognising who made it and why he made it is like trying to use a complicated device or without knowing the manufacturer and it's purpose
If you were taught the TRUTH about God just as I wasn't, the problems of life will have made us draw closer to him based on the knowledge of him and to comfort ourselves and others but due to lies and the questions that religious leaders could not answer, we were amiss and lost. See, you are lost but deceiving yourself that you are found. I may liken your situation to someone that was drowning but manage to find himself in a desert but he is happier that way and feels he's in the best place on Earth when there's actually a paradise

God is love. A loving God won't force anyone to worship him against their freewill. He gave us that freewill and respect it

ATEAMS:
This is diiiip...

Omoh thinking no dey finish

What's deep in those thrashes he put up there ?

Are you one of those who allow these cunning serpents to manipulate you?

Go back and read about the man called Noah and then read Genesis 8:20-22, 9:1-3, you will understand that God has reversed some of those curses most especially, the one regarding the earth .

Aemmyjah:


1. In human analogy (for now), it is not possible. Scientists may invent such 'wings' in the future. Today, humans can reach the summit of any mountain even without climbing... I will not believe cos we are not made to fly and we don't have wings. Just as you can buy something with money when you have no money except on credit.


2.
Hmmm
So you became an atheist... Cos you realised there was no God or because you did not seem to get satisfying answers to your questions about him or you don't understand why some things happen which you feel that a loving God should have prevented or solved from happening?
What meaning do you have as an atheist? What joy or satisfaction do you have as an atheist? What were your answers and what was the source of your answers?
We all ask questions. I had mine too. I almost became an atheist, I was always asked to shut up and stop asking too many questions, the hypocrisy was too much. I was struggling with porn, I seem to be enjoying it and getting bored from it at the same time but everyone in the church had it in the gallery including the pastor. I'm not lying, when everyone had gone home (as I always locked the doors after service). He plays it and won't even bother to turn down the volume.
Besides, I'll come late to church and be condemned to go to hellfire without asking why I was late. I could not save, they talk about money so much that our conscience will be telling is we could be bankrupt if we kept our money at home...
I lost faith, I asked questions and was beginning to have a shipwreck of faith in God. Once I wished I was made as an animal not knowing or understanding life or as a Rock or mountain. Life was meaningless. I looked up at night and cursed God as wicked and said he's cruel and so undeserving of worship to watch us suffer... I determined to be an atheist when I leave my parents house and enter the university. But then, I prayed. I didn't know how to pray and I did not like praying for people I don't know to die or thunder strike them and I don't like praying for materialistic wealth. I wrote a letter to God telling him all my feeling, how I felt about him and what I wanted to do and asked he intercede and reveal the truth about himself to me so I will know the truth and worship him with joy or I become an atheist and be a bonafide citizen of hellfire. I never hoped to get an answer cosi placed it under a table in church and later removed it. If I didn't see any answer to my prayers I offered by mouth, na letter wey I hide for under table for pulpit God wan take answer? Me wey no get faith say God de even hear prayer or even mind me
That was a turning point in my life
That's how my happy new life began
Everything was a miracle
If I don't believe God ever answered my prayers, I can't deny that one. I'm so thankful now to be alive, a human and to come to know God. That's part of our purpose. We will never live meaningful life if we don't come to recognize that there is someone that made us and we're not here by accident and only him can tell us WHY we are here and how to find meaning in life. If you leave a tenant in a house that everything is computerized, he'll always be frustrated and unhappy until he receive the guide on how to live in that house. Just as you can't use a boat on a highway or bicycle to cross a lake, we can't derive any satisfaction without knowing the TRUE meaning of HOW we came to be, WHY we are here, HOW to derive meaning in life, WHERE we are going to and these are questions that scientists and philosophy cannot answer... Only God, who is the source of life is. You may deny the evidence but it leave you without hope and reliable guide. Trying to live life without recognising who made it and why he made it is like trying to use a complicated device or without knowing the manufacturer and it's purpose
If you were taught the TRUTH about God just as I wasn't, the problems of life will have made us draw closer to him based on the knowledge of him and to comfort ourselves and others but due to lies and the questions that religious leaders could not answer, we were amiss and lost. See, you are lost but deceiving yourself that you are found. I may liken your situation to someone that was drowning but manage to find himself in a desert but he is happier that way and feels he's in the best place on Earth when there's actually a paradise

God is love. A loving God won't force anyone to worship him against their freewill. He gave us that freewill and respect it

1. You don't believe me, right? Good. So how do you want me to believe all the stories in the Bible? From talking donkey and snake, one man killing hundreds with just a jawbone, a man surviving in a whale for days etc. If you didn't believe me, how come you believed all those stories, without even a shred of evidence?
2. Yup I realized there's no god, or he's doing a damn good job of hiding from his creation.
What do you mean 'what meaning do you have as an atheist?' Its a vague question. We exist because we exist. When your watch is done, you leave and become manure and nurture the earth, giving back what you used up.
The joy I derive as an atheist? Joy of knowing that I understand the scam involved in religion.
The source of my answers was the world. Observing natural phenomena without the intrusion and delusions of religion. Watching the world through a religion-tinted glass strips off truth and adds a veneer of deception. Example. 4 years ago, I had lumbar radiculopathy. I couldn't walk properly. Had numbness and spasm, which was worse inye left leg. I limped for 2 months. I didn't see any Orthopedic or Spinal surgeon. I handled the case on my own with my medical knowledge. Didn't pray or fast. I got okay in 2 months. Imagine if I was a theist and praying, I would have attributed it to yhwh. Same if I was Muslim etc.
I don't understand your analogy of using a boat to cross a highway. Makes no sense.
And no, god didn’t give us a freewill. Aint nothing like it. And aint nothing like your god

jaephoenix:

1. You don't believe me, right? Good. So how do you want me to believe all the stories in the Bible? From talking donkey and snake, one man killing hundreds with just a jawbone, a man surviving in a whale for days etc. If you didn't believe me, how come you believed all those stories, without even a shred of evidence?
2. Yup I realized there's no god, or he's doing a damn good job of hiding from his creation.
What do you mean 'what meaning do you have as an atheist?' Its a vague question. We exist because we exist. When your watch is done, you leave and become manure and nurture the earth, giving back what you used up.
The joy I derive as an atheist? Joy of knowing that I understand the scam involved in religion.
The source of my answers was the world. Observing natural phenomena without the intrusion and delusions of religion. Watching the world through a religion-tinted glass strips off truth and adds a veneer of deception. Example. 4 years ago, I had lumbar radiculopathy. I couldn't walk properly. Had numbness and spasm, which was worse inye left leg. I limped for 2 months. I didn't see any Orthopedic or Spinal surgeon. I handled the case on my own with my medical knowledge. Didn't pray or fast. I got okay in 2 months. Imagine if I was a theist and praying, I would have attributed it to yhwh. Same if I was Muslim etc.
I don't understand your analogy of using a boat to cross a highway. Makes no sense.
And no, god didn’t give us a freewill. Aint nothing like it. And aint nothing like your god

1. Things that men thought would be impossible years ago is now done now
Who would have believe that men could 'fly' to another part of the globe within days or hours. No one could have thought that we could fly like the birds. Though we can't fly naturally but we are able to transport ourselves to another part of the world by air
Who would have thought that I can stay in one place and talk to another person in another part of the Earth without any wire connection and he will be listening at the same time. We can even talk to astronaut who are in space
Many years ago, people did not believe that we could store memory on something smaller than a matchbox but look at what we have accomplished today
Could you have convinced a man 2000 years ago that he could watch a live event taking place in another part of the Earth?

You are the one looking at things with a biased, shortsighted view without considering the whole. Infact, many says that nothing is impossible with science but improbable... I'm sure that you've head of cryonics, people do not bury their dead but keep them in the machine so that when science are able to invent something to 'resurrect the dead, they could resurrect such ones too'... You may do research on cryonics. What about teleportation and the rest? Yet, man's ability is limited and prone to error
If man can do this by wisdom and power, is it wrong to believe that God cannot do great things that seem impossible like making a donkey speak (he's the one that made them), another super spirit creature tried making a snake speak or made it appear to speak to the woman. It is impossible that a man can even kill 1000 children with a jaw bone and not get tired from swinging, how much more killing 1000 powerful men with a jawbone. The Bible says it was because Samson was empowered with holy spirit. That same powerful spirit is God's active force and the same force God used in creating the universe and doing miracles. The problem is now you reason

2. Then your existence is meaningless. You are like animals that live for the moment, grasping the pleasures for the moment and these pleasures do not last, you won't enjoy them forever and they can be taken away. If so, you are alone, without hope as well.
Because you have avoided the scam in religion does not make ALL religion a scam. Just as one cannot say there is no printing and minting company in Nigeria cos of prevalence of fake money. That's why I asked atheists, is atheism the answer? No meaningful answer.

My illustration of boat on highway was that just as a boat was made to transport in water as the Maker made, anyone who used it otherwise will only frustrate himself at the long run. Similarly, we can't enjoy a meaningful life without knowing WHY we are here, WHO made us and WHAT to do to find meaning in life and WHERE we are going. It is like finding yourself in a bus without knowing how you got in, where you are going and the reason for travel. Some don't bother to ask questions, they just want to travel until wherever their destination leads them. Knowledge of God fills our mind with awe, we know we are not alone, we have a reliable guide, someone who can comfort us, tell us how we came, why we are here, why we suffer, what the future holds, the meaning of life.
The future atheists predict is always bleak

jaephoenix:

1. You don't believe me, right? Good. So how do you want me to believe all the stories in the Bible? From talking donkey and snake, one man killing hundreds with just a jawbone, a man surviving in a whale for days etc. If you didn't believe me, how come you believed all those stories, without even a shred of evidence?
2. Yup I realized there's no god, or he's doing a damn good job of hiding from his creation.
What do you mean 'what meaning do you have as an atheist?' Its a vague question. We exist because we exist. When your watch is done, you leave and become manure and nurture the earth, giving back what you used up.
The joy I derive as an atheist? Joy of knowing that I understand the scam involved in religion.
The source of my answers was the world. Observing natural phenomena without the intrusion and delusions of religion. Watching the world through a religion-tinted glass strips off truth and adds a veneer of deception. Example. 4 years ago, I had lumbar radiculopathy. I couldn't walk properly. Had numbness and spasm, which was worse inye left leg. I limped for 2 months. I didn't see any Orthopedic or Spinal surgeon. I handled the case on my own with my medical knowledge. Didn't pray or fast. I got okay in 2 months. Imagine if I was a theist and praying, I would have attributed it to yhwh. Same if I was Muslim etc.
I don't understand your analogy of using a boat to cross a highway. Makes no sense.
And no, god didn’t give us a freewill. Aint nothing like it. And aint nothing like your god

In addition to what I skipped, I see some hospital say 'We care but God heals'. Ben Carson was a christian I think but whether we are cured or not, whether we are healed in a hospital bed or traditional or by surgery or we even die during sickness, it does not discredit God. He's allowed us to try every possible means available for healing ourselves but in his own due time, as he has promised, he will bring an end to all forms of sickness and pain.

Yet, there are some sickness and pain that hospital cannot heal or cure but we have to manage and many are life-threatening and discouraging as well bringing all kinds of anxieties. These are ones that hospital cannot heal or therapy can help. At that point, we draw close to our Father for strength to deal with such healness and comfort... Even if I'm sick, I beg him for strength to go through it and for quick recovery and I thank him as always

Aemmyjah:



1. Things that men thought would be impossible years ago is now done now
Who would have believe that men could 'fly' to another part of the globe within days or hours. No one could have thought that we could fly like the birds. Though we can't fly naturally but we are able to transport ourselves to another part of the world by air
Who would have thought that I can stay in one place and talk to another person in another part of the Earth without any wire connection and he will be listening at the same time. We can even talk to astronaut who are in space
Many years ago, people did not believe that we could store memory on something smaller than a matchbox but look at what we have accomplished today
Could you have convinced a man 2000 years ago that he could watch a live event taking place in another part of the Earth?

You are the one looking at things with a biased, shortsighted view without considering the whole. Infact, many says that nothing is impossible with science but improbable... I'm sure that you've head of cryonics, people do not bury their dead but keep them in the machine so that when science are able to invent something to 'resurrect the dead, they could resurrect such ones too'... You may do research on cryonics. What about teleportation and the rest? Yet, man's ability is limited and prone to error
If man can do this by wisdom and power, is it wrong to believe that God cannot do great things that seem impossible like making a donkey speak (he's the one that made them), another super spirit creature tried making a snake speak or made it appear to speak to the woman. It is impossible that a man can even kill 1000 children with a jaw bone and not get tired from swinging, how much more killing 1000 powerful men with a jawbone. The Bible says it was because Samson was empowered with holy spirit. That same powerful spirit is God's active force and the same force God used in creating the universe and doing miracles. The problem is now you reason

2. Then your existence is meaningless. You are like animals that live for the moment, grasping the pleasures for the moment and these pleasures do not last, you won't enjoy them forever and they can be taken away. If so, you are alone, without hope as well.
Because you have avoided the scam in religion does not make ALL religion a scam. Just as one cannot say there is no printing and minting company in Nigeria cos of prevalence of fake money. That's why I asked atheists, is atheism the answer? No meaningful answer.

My illustration of boat on highway was that just as a boat was made to transport in water as the Maker made, anyone who used it otherwise will only frustrate himself at the long run. Similarly, we can't enjoy a meaningful life without knowing WHY we are here, WHO made us and WHAT to do to find meaning in life and WHERE we are going. It is like finding yourself in a bus without knowing how you got in, where you are going and the reason for travel. Some don't bother to ask questions, they just want to travel until wherever their destination leads them. Knowledge of God fills our mind with awe, we know we are not alone, we have a reliable guide, someone who can comfort us, tell us how we came, why we are here, why we suffer, what the future holds, the meaning of life.
The future atheists predict is always bleak

1. See how you're turning round and round, and getting yourself twisted because you're now caught out. Some chats ago, you said you didn't believe I can fly with wings to UK, that it isn't humanly possible . Now that I quoted the Bible, you have done a volte face and now saying scientists can do many things. But you forgot to tell me scientists can do many things when I told you I flew. Lol
What makes you think god didn’t give me the wings to fly to the UK?
Why doesn't your god heal that your glaucoma patient? Or you don't have 'The life of god' in you again?
Of course, Samson's enemies were all standing in a queue waiting their turn to be slaughtered just like cow. None of them thought of running away
2. Bro, I found meaning in my existence. I heal people through scientific means. And I love the job. My own idea of the meaning of life doesn't have to tally with yours. Live in your lane and I'll live in mine.
Bro, you guys still use the bible, dont you? If you can prove to me the bible is legit, I'll trust it, but in the meantime, you haven't given a shred of evidence of its credibility.
So going by your analogy, any other person that doesn't fill his heart with your god lives a meaningless life? So that includes non-JW christians , Muslims, Buddhists etc. So basically 99% of the world live meaningless lives? Okay
By the way I can comfort myself. Same way atheists in other countries console themselves . I was an atheist when my dad died, when all my siblings were crying, I was chilled. They were mumbling about meeting my dad in the afterlife bullshit. I just smiled.

Aemmyjah:



In addition to what I skipped, I see some hospital say 'We care but God heals'. Ben Carson was a christian I think but whether we are cured or not, whether we are healed in a hospital bed or traditional or by surgery or we even die during sickness, it does not discredit God. He's allowed us to try every possible means available for healing ourselves but in his own due time, as he has promised, he will bring an end to all forms of sickness and pain.

Yet, there are some sickness and pain that hospital cannot heal or cure but we have to manage and many are life-threatening and discouraging as well bringing all kinds of anxieties. These are ones that hospital cannot heal or therapy can help. At that point, we draw close to our Father for strength to deal with such healness and comfort... Even if I'm sick, I beg him for strength to go through it and for quick recovery and I thank him as always

But in his book, he promised healing to his people. I'm yet to see any christian getting any miracles in hospitals. Only place I see such is on social media and tv, where they cannot be verified
So are you saying your god lied about healing and good health?

jaephoenix:

But in his book, he promised healing to his people. I'm yet to see any christian getting any miracles in hospitals. Only place I see such is on social media and tv, where they cannot be verified
So are you saying your god lied about healing and good health?

Show me where he said it
It was foretold that the miracle his disciples did in the first century will cease and they did?
The ones you been seeing is scam and to deceive people to think they have God's power. Faith healing is not a sign of true Christianity
These miracle workers are unlike Jesus. Amassing Wealth, promoting politics and conflicts and egoistic. They even seem to be higher than Jesus himself and they are far from humble. They talk like they can bring down government... You're the one allowing scammers to deceive you and you are making wrong conclusion

jaephoenix:

1. See how you're turning round and round, and getting yourself twisted because you're now caught out. Some chats ago, you said you didn't believe I can fly with wings to UK, that it isn't humanly possible . Now that I quoted the Bible, you have done a volte face and now saying scientists can do many things. But you forgot to tell me scientists can do many things when I told you I flew. Lol
What makes you think god didn’t give me the wings to fly to the UK?
Why doesn't your god heal that your glaucoma patient? Or you don't have 'The life of god' in you again?
Of course, Samson's enemies were all standing in a queue waiting their turn to be slaughtered just like cow. None of them thought of running away
2. Bro, I found meaning in my existence. I heal people through scientific means. And I love the job. My own idea of the meaning of life doesn't have to tally with yours. Live in your lane and I'll live in mine.
Bro, you guys still use the bible, dont you? If you can prove to me the bible is legit, I'll trust it, but in the meantime, you haven't given a shred of evidence of its credibility.
So going by your analogy, any other person that doesn't fill his heart with your god lives a meaningless life? So that includes non-JW christians , Muslims, Buddhists etc. So basically 99% of the world live meaningless lives? Okay
By the way I can comfort myself. Same way atheists in other countries console themselves . I was an atheist when my dad died, when all my siblings were crying, I was chilled. They were mumbling about meeting my dad in the afterlife bullshit. I just smiled.

Hopeless atheist. No hope in life. They don't know how they came to be bit they accept it was by accident. They don't know why they are here and where they are going. Animalistic minds is what they have. Cos they have no hope, they react cold when distressing times comes. It seems good to your mind your children will be smiling when dad is gone as that was his purpose- come and go

jaephoenix:

But in his book, he promised healing to his people. I'm yet to see any christian getting any miracles in hospitals. Only place I see such is on social media and tv, where they cannot be verified
So are you saying your god lied about healing and good health?

It is not my god
Go and meet the people who said and did such things

Aemmyjah:


Show me where he said it
It was foretold that the miracle his disciples did in the first century will cease and they did?
The ones you been seeing is scam and to deceive people to think they have God's power. Faith healing is not a sign of true Christianity
These miracle workers are unlike Jesus. Amassing Wealth, promoting politics and conflicts and egoistic. They even seem to be higher than Jesus himself and they are far from humble. They talk like they can bring down government... You're the one allowing scammers to deceive you and you are making wrong conclusion

Psalm 107:20 ESV / 25
He sent out his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destruction

James 5:14-16 ESV / 31
Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible

Psalm 147:3 ESV / 64
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds

1 Peter 2:24 ESV / 72
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed

Proverbs 3:7-8
Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones

Exodus 23:25 ESV / 151
You shall serve the Lord your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from among you

Exodus 15:26 ESV / 185
Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer

Jeremiah 33:6 ESV / 216
Behold, I will bring to it health and healing, and I will heal them and reveal to them abundance of prosperity and security

jaephoenix:

Psalm 107:20 ESV / 25
He sent out his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destruction

James 5:14-16 ESV / 31
Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible

Psalm 147:3 ESV / 64
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds

1 Peter 2:24 ESV / 72
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed

Proverbs 3:7-8
Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones

Exodus 23:25 ESV / 151
You shall serve the Lord your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from among you

Exodus 15:26 ESV / 185
Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer

Jeremiah 33:6 ESV / 216
Behold, I will bring to it health and healing, and I will heal them and reveal to them abundance of prosperity and security

You are a very blind manl
Quoting scriptures with no understanding

Aemmyjah:

You are a very blind manl Quoting scriptures with no understanding

lol. that's your reply?

hopefulLandlord:


lol. that's your reply?

Help me ask am. These theists think we are stupid

CodeTemplar:
The curse is in full effect. Even in times of old, kings lived off the sweat of others and lived luxuriously.

meaning money then made some men circumvent curse on Adam but they couldn't do that to the curse on snake. do you now see the difference? it's recently all the curses can be circumvented

jaephoenix:

Help me ask am. These theists think we are stupid

Atheists are not stupid
Stupid is in fact an understatement