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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:56am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


The op said nothing, the characteristics he gave to this god how did he come up with it?
Why does he think a thing can transcend time and space?
You still haven't read the OP carefully because you are not relaxed, you are just interested in the argument.

Read it and address issues on it
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
You still haven't read the OP carefully because you are not relaxed, you are just interested in the argument.

Read it and address issues on it
The op said nothing, the characteristics he gave to this god how did he come up with it?
Why does he think a thing can transcend time and space?

The concept of “god” where did he get it from?

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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


How did you come with a deistic theos?
I am not a deist.
I am telling you that you cannot disprove deists.

Diests and atheists are both wrong
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:58am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:

The op said nothing, the characteristics he gave to this god how did he come up with it?
Why does he think a thing can transcend time and space?

The concept of “god” where did he get it from?
If no one created the universe then how did it come into existence?
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I am a deist.
I am telling you that you cannot disprove deists.

Diests and atheists are both wrong

Deists from deus.
Atheist rejects all deities.
All the attributes you think of this deistic god is gotten from monotheists, they use those attributes to honor their various deities.

Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
If no one created the universe then how did it come into existence?

How did you know the universe was “created”?
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Deists from deus.
Atheist rejects all deities.
All the attributes you think of this deistic god is gotten from monotheists, they use those attributes to honor their various deities.
Diests and atheists are both wrong.

Atheists are wrong because they don't know as well.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:00am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
Diests and atheists are both wrong.

Atheists are wrong because they don't know as well.

Athiests rejects all gods.

Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:00am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


How did you know the universe was “created”?
I don't know, that's why I am asking deist and you atheists how they know it was and it wasn't.

So atheist ls, how did you know the universe wasn't created?

I don't know
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I don't know, that's why I am asking deist and you atheists how they know it was and it wasn't.

So atheist ls, how did you know the universe wasn't created?

I don't know
Atheists doesn’t claim they know how the universe came to be, atheists just reject all gods. Simple
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Athiests rejects all gods.
So how did you know that the universe wasn't created then if you reject a creator?
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:

Atheists doesn’t claim they know how the universe came to be, atheists just reject all gods. Simple
So if don't know how the universe was created and then you reject a creator, is that not a fallacy of appealing to ignorance?
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:03am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
So did you know that the universe wasn't created then if you reject a creator?

I don’t know how a universe came to be, I can’t say it was created or not, i have no idea.
If i see a car, I know it can be “created” by humans. But universe I don’t know if we even have the correct English to qualify how it came to be.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:03am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
So if don't know how the universe was created and then you reject a creator, is that not a fallacy of appealing to ignorance?

Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:04am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


I don’t know how a universe came to be, I can’t say it was created or not, i have no idea.
If i see a car, I know it can be “created” by humans. But universe I don’t know if we even have the correct English to qualify how it came to be.
So you dont know how the universe came about but you reject the possibility of a creator.

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence.
So literally you conclusion was reached because of unavailability 9f evidence which is a classical example of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
So you dont know how the universe came about but you reject the possibility of a creator.

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence.

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.

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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence.
So what's wrong in just saying that you don't know and wait until we find out?

Do you now see how flawed atheism is?
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
So literally you conclusion was reached because of unavailability 9f evidence which is a classical example of appealing to ignorance
Exactly, I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
So what's wrong in just saying that you don't know and wait until we find out?

Do you now see how flawed atheism is?

Of course I don’t know, and i reject all gods, i also reject claims that a Dog could have created the world.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:07am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:

Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence.

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
No one is saying you should accept it.

I am not accepting it myself. But I a reaching a conclusion from ignorance, I just prefer to say that I don't know and then remain neutral to avoid a fallacy
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
No one is saying you should accept it.

I am not accepting it myself. But I a reaching a conclusion from ignorance, I just prefer to say that I don't know and then remain neutral

There are billions of explanation, i reject the explanation of gods, the same way i reject explanation of a dog being a creator.
I’m neutral.

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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Of course I don’t know, and i reject all gods, i also reject claims that a Dog could have created the world.
But you don't know how the universe was created.
So you don't know if a creator actually did it.

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
But you don't know how the universe was created.
So you don't know if a creator actually did it.

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
How did you know it was “created”?

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


There are billions of explanation, i reject the explanation of gods, the same way i reject explanation of a dog being a creator.
I’m neutral.
There are just two explanations. It's either a creator did it or not.

You reject on and accept the other without evidence and knowledge

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:

How did you know it was “created”?

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
I don't know if it was created or not because there no evidence.

Reaching a conclusion without evidence is fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:

There are just two explanations. It's either a creator did it or not.

You reject on and accept the other without evidence and knowledge

Fallacy of appealing to ignorance
That explanation is only gotten in theism.
That’s why atheists mean godless.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:11am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I don't know if it was created or not because there no evidence.

Reaching a conclusion without evidence is fallacy of appealing to ignorance

Exactly, so we should not use the world “created”. Those that use it should explain how they came to know it was created.

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:11am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:


Exactly, so we should not use the world “created”. Those that use it should explain how they came to know it was created.

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.
You also do know, but you reached a conclusion.

That's fallacy of appealing to ignorance
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:12am On Jan 29, 2023
Maynman:

That explanation is only gotten in theism.
That’s why atheists mean godless.
if you conclusion without evidence for against, it's a fallacy of appealing to ignorance.

Atheisms is as fallacious as deism
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:12am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
You also do know, but you reached a conclusion.

That's fallacy of appealing to ignorance

I do not know, and I didn’t reach any conclusions.
If you want me to accept your conclusions then prove it.
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:13am On Jan 29, 2023
Trollronaldo:
if you conclusion without evidence for against, it's a fallacy of appealing to ignorance.

Atheisms is as fallacious as deism
Yes.

I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence.

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