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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:56am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:You still haven't read the OP carefully because you are not relaxed, you are just interested in the argument. Read it and address issues on it |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:The op said nothing, the characteristics he gave to this god how did he come up with it? Why does he think a thing can transcend time and space? The concept of “god” where did he get it from? 1 Like |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:I am not a deist. I am telling you that you cannot disprove deists. Diests and atheists are both wrong |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:58am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:If no one created the universe then how did it come into existence? |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Deists from deus. Atheist rejects all deities. All the attributes you think of this deistic god is gotten from monotheists, they use those attributes to honor their various deities.
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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: How did you know the universe was “created”? |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 7:59am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:Diests and atheists are both wrong. Atheists are wrong because they don't know as well. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:00am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Athiests rejects all gods.
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Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:00am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:I don't know, that's why I am asking deist and you atheists how they know it was and it wasn't. So atheist ls, how did you know the universe wasn't created? I don't know |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:Atheists doesn’t claim they know how the universe came to be, atheists just reject all gods. Simple |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:So how did you know that the universe wasn't created then if you reject a creator? |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:01am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:So if don't know how the universe was created and then you reject a creator, is that not a fallacy of appealing to ignorance? |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:03am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: I don’t know how a universe came to be, I can’t say it was created or not, i have no idea. If i see a car, I know it can be “created” by humans. But universe I don’t know if we even have the correct English to qualify how it came to be. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:03am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:04am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:So you dont know how the universe came about but you reject the possibility of a creator. Fallacy of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:So literally you conclusion was reached because of unavailability 9f evidence which is a classical example of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:Because I don’t have an answer to a thing, doesn’t mean I should accept someone else answers without evidence. I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence. 1 Like |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:So what's wrong in just saying that you don't know and wait until we find out? Do you now see how flawed atheism is? |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:Exactly, I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:06am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Of course I don’t know, and i reject all gods, i also reject claims that a Dog could have created the world. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:07am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:No one is saying you should accept it. I am not accepting it myself. But I a reaching a conclusion from ignorance, I just prefer to say that I don't know and then remain neutral to avoid a fallacy |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: There are billions of explanation, i reject the explanation of gods, the same way i reject explanation of a dog being a creator. I’m neutral. 1 Like |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:But you don't know how the universe was created. So you don't know if a creator actually did it. Fallacy of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:How did you know it was “created”? I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:There are just two explanations. It's either a creator did it or not. You reject on and accept the other without evidence and knowledge Fallacy of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:I don't know if it was created or not because there no evidence. Reaching a conclusion without evidence is fallacy of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:09am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:That explanation is only gotten in theism. That’s why atheists mean godless. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:11am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: Exactly, so we should not use the world “created”. Those that use it should explain how they came to know it was created. I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:11am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:You also do know, but you reached a conclusion. That's fallacy of appealing to ignorance |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Trollronaldo: 8:12am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Maynman:if you conclusion without evidence for against, it's a fallacy of appealing to ignorance. Atheisms is as fallacious as deism |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:12am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo: I do not know, and I didn’t reach any conclusions. If you want me to accept your conclusions then prove it. |
Re: Deism And Atheism Are The Different Sides Of The Same Wrong Coin. by Maynman: 8:13am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Trollronaldo:Yes. I hope you are consistent with your fallacy of appealing to ignorance, as long as it also goes into Santa, bigfoot, flying lion, pegasus, talking cockroaches, you must be consistent and not reject the possibility of them existing because there’s no evidence. |
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