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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 8:46pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

No, there's no concept in Physics that proves soul as many theories of Physics are incomplete, including the Standard Model, arguably the most successful theory in Physics.

However, I cited the wave-particle duality as a theoretical basis for the existence of the soul.

No theory of Physics explains consciousness as of yet.

But researchers are working on the subject and breakthroughs will be recorded in the future.
as a matter of fact, De-broglie was only trying to apply newton's third law of motion to the motion of electrons hence the matter-wave duality.

Says nothing about souls at all.

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:47pm On Feb 12, 2023
I don't have time for that clown.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 8:47pm On Feb 12, 2023
hin don dey clear for the illiterate eye cheesy

Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:47pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
as a matter of fact, De-broglie was only trying to apply newton's third law of motion to the motion of elections hence the matter-wave duality.

Says nothing about souls at all.
I didn't say it does. I only applied it to soul based on my own research.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 8:49pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I already told you the concept is a theoretical basis. Do you know what's called theoretical basis for something?

A concept can serve as a theoretical basis for something that hasn't been established scientifically to exist.

For years, Einstein's general theory of relativity served as the theoretical basis for the existence of black holes before they were discovered in the 1970s.
I still don't see any mathematical proof that proves it theoretically.
In physics, we need all theoretical concept to have a mathematical feasibility but mah not have been substantiate with actual evidence.

Einstein's theory of relativity had mathematical proofs before we started finding evidence.

Hope you understand that this theory of souls cannot be substantiated with any mathematics in physic as of today?

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:49pm On Feb 12, 2023
When you learn science on Quora and YouTube, you won't know that the wave-particle duality applies to matter generally, including light as well.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 8:50pm On Feb 12, 2023
When you are an illiterate you will not know that light is NOT a matter yet it exhibits wave particle duality.

Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:51pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I still don't see any mathematical proof that proves it theoretically.
In physics, some basics a theorerical of it has a mathematical feasibility but has not been substantiate with actual evidence.

Einstein's theory of relativity had mathematical proofs before we started finding evidence.

Hope you understand that this theory of souls cannot be substantiated with any mathematics in physic as of today?
There are various mathematical formulations explaining consciousness that have been published in various journals. Nothing concrete yet.

Just give it time.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 8:51pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I didn't say it does. I only applied it to soul based on my own research.
Let me understand you..
What's really your point?
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 8:52pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

There are various mathematical formulations explaining consciousness that have been published in various journals. Nothing concrete yet.

Just give it time.
Does consciousness equates to the term "soul"?

In my opinion, I think they are two different phenomena

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:55pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
Does consciousness equates to the term "soul"?

In my opinion, I think they are two different phenomena
I consider them the same.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 8:56pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I consider them the same.
Then your definition for one of them must be different from the conventional one.

Can you kindly tell me what you understand by soul?
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 8:58pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
Then your definition for one of them must be different from the conventional one.

Can you kindly tell me what you understand by soul?
It's already well defined in my initial posts. Soul and consciousness are the same.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:04pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

It's already well defined in my initial posts. Soul and consciousness are the same.
According to Cambridge dictionary

Consciousness:
the state of understanding and realizing something

Soul:
the spiritual part of a person that some people believe continues to exist in some form after their body has died, or the part of a person that is not physical and experiences deep feelings and emotions.


How are they the same?

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 9:06pm On Feb 12, 2023
Person na illiterate.

Agnostics are monotheist sympathizers.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:10pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:

According to Cambridge dictionary

Consciousness:
the state of understanding and realizing something

Soul:
the spiritual part of a person that some people believe continues to exist in some form after their body has died, or the part of a person that is not physical and experiences deep feelings and emotions.


How are they the same?
I consider them the same because the soul makes a living thing exhibit consciousness.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:13pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I consider them the same the soul makes a living thing exhibit consciousness.
hmm.
This nairaland eh.

I am tired of a lot things I see here

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:17pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
hmm.
This nairaland eh.

I am tired of a lot things I see here
Just ignore those things. As said earlier, the scientific understanding of consciousness is low, and more breakthroughs will be recorded in the future.

The Age of Scientific Enlightenment is even less than 600 years. Tons of mysteries still remain undiscovered.

Based on my own research and personal experience, I've found much more reasons that show the soul or consciousness exists than the opposite.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:17pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

No, there's no concept in Physics that proves soul as many theories of Physics are incomplete, including the Standard Model, arguably the most successful theory in Physics.

However, I cited the wave-particle duality as a theoretical basis for the existence of the soul.

No theory of Physics explains consciousness as of yet.

But researchers are working on the subject and breakthroughs will be recorded in the future.
Since its theoretical, why have you been parroting it around like its the gospel? Don't you get tired of this life?

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:18pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I do not see how wave-particle paradox and De-broglie's wavelength proves the existence of a soul and trust me, I am familiar with them so well. Can you enlighten me on your perspective?
Bro, we have been asking the guy, but all we get is insults. And he uses this particular technique anytime he posts rubbish and you ask him for evidence

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:19pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

Just ignore those things. As said earlier, the scientific understanding of consciousness is low, and more breakthroughs will be recorded in the future.

The Age of Scientific Enlightenment is even less than 600 years. Tons of mysteries still remain undiscovered.

Based on my own research and personal experience, I've found much more reasons that show the soul or consciousness exists than the opposite.
I seriously use to think that you were a rational person... It's well

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:20pm On Feb 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Since its theoretical, why have you been parroting it around like its the gospel? Don't you get tired of this life?
You must be foolish. Why are you quoting me all about?

I give my opinions on issues anyhow I please and if they don't sit well, you ignore them.

All these Yabaleft escapees on Nairaland constituting a nuisance everywhere.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:20pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I didn't say it does. I only applied it to soul based on my own research.
Ask him to post his research, and receive a truckload of insults in exchange grin

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:21pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I seriously use to think that you were a rational person... It's well
I thought you were too. You're obviously a product of the failed education system of this country that thinks everyone must agree with his narrow, ignorant perception of reality.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:22pm On Feb 12, 2023
Maynman:
Person na illiterate.

Agnostics are monotheist sympathizers.
Not all. But this A001 character na ignoramus

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:22pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I thought you were too. You're obviously a product of the failed education system of this country that thinks everyone must agree with his narrow, ignorant perception of reality.
Well, you just described yourself since you think consciousness and soul are synonymous.

I pity you

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Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Maynman: 9:22pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

I thought you were too. You're obviously a product of the failed education system of this country that thinks everyone must agree with his narrow, ignorant perception of reality.
You see how everyone is busting your dumb opinions cheesy
Ignorance soaked in delusion.

Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:23pm On Feb 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Ask him to post his research, and receive a truckload of insults in exchange grin
I should post my research on Nairaland. Is Nairaland a journal? You're obviously silly if you think I'm interested in seeking validation from the mass of ignorant people on this forum when I can make money by publishing my ideas in books being a writer.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by A001: 9:25pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
Well, you just described yourself since you think consciousness and soul are synonymous.

I pity you
Lols, you can get out of my mention now and reserve your pity for yourself.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:25pm On Feb 12, 2023
jaephoenix:

Bro, we have been asking the guy, but all we get is insults. And he uses this particular technique anytime he posts rubbish and you ask him for evidence
I am so tired of everything he's saying.
The moment he inferred that soul and consciousness are the same thing, I had no choice than to conclude that this engagement is not worth it.
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:25pm On Feb 12, 2023
Trollronaldo:
I seriously use to think that you were a rational person... It's well
He uncannily sounds like Terech or something like that. A regular fruitcake. Dude claims he's an ascended master and throws around unfounded theories like A001. Just ask him for evidence and you'll receive a load of insults
Re: Does The Soul Exist? by Trollronaldo: 9:26pm On Feb 12, 2023
A001:

Lols, you can get out of my mention now and reserve your pity for yourself.
There's nothing wrong in being wrong and accepting it.

It's the only way to learn. Na you sabi

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