jaephoenix:

I told him I have wings too. I mean good ol' angelic wings which I use to glide.
Telling christians to provide evidence is always a problem. I can't count the number of Christians who have boasted on this forum to me that they heal all manner of disease. Yet during evidence time, they get slippery. I told one of them I'll send some fibroid cases his way, he hasn't replied me

Abeg send one to FxMasterz maybe he can cast out the fibroid. LoLz.

jaephoenix:

I told him I have wings too. I mean good ol' angelic wings which I use to glide.
Telling christians to provide evidence is always a problem. I can't count the number of Christians who have boasted on this forum to me that they heal all manner of disease. Yet during evidence time, they get slippery. I told one of them I'll send some fibroid cases his way, he hasn't replied me

You can't count? Mention 5 Christians on this forum and the post where they boasted on this forum to "you" that they heal all manner of disease. We go wait till next 50 years. Joker.

LordReed:


Abeg send one to FxMasterz maybe he can cast out the fibroid. LoLz.

Lolz, when he heals the fibriod, we know your next format na. God healed this fibriod and allowed millions to die bla bla bla, healing is not only done by God yen yen yen. Bunch of clowns.

MightySparrow:


You don't need a god to prophecy. The physic people do with accuracy. Mitchell Nostradamus, Mummy Simpson, Edgar Cayce etc.

However, for you to say that that those who believe in God are stupid is the challenge.
Like I have always argue, I have not seen how science has taken place of a personal God.

I know a bít of science myself being a Masters Degree holder in a branch of engineering. These days I read much of astrophysics. While I appreciate the giant strides in that area and the works of of people like Stephen Hawkings, Carl Sagan, Professors Wheeler, Neil Degrasse Tyson. I know many of them seem not to believe in a god. But at the frontier of scientific knowledge is uncertainty. The latest pictures by James Webb telescope cast doubt on earlier beliefs especially of Big Bang Theory. We are not certain of the nature of atoms. Except for the evidences of science, how it has improved the quality of life of humans, one can also query the verity of scientific knowledge. Science has not solved all human problems. In the attempt, the solution to a problem creates another.
Can the same be said about about the inadequacies of knowledge of God? There are so many gods and many scriptures. Many gods of millennia ago are no longer in existence. Many superstitions are now debunked.

Yet, the Christian God has meandered his Acts through all all civilizations, knowledge, philosophies and has not been discarded but waxing stronger in the mind of people.

Yes, science has some uncertainty. And aint ashamed of it. In fact, it thrives in proving its uncertainty and making itself less uncertain per day.
Religion? It tends to portray itself as certain and unfailing, but it it so riddled with lies and miseducations.
You said science hasn't solved any of man's problem. Really? At least health wise, sickle cell, HIV etc were death sentences before, but now its all good. Children die quickly from many diseases but vaccines etc have helped. Child birth were 50-50 but now maternal deaths are almost unheard of in some climes. I can go on.
People take weeks to travel from one continent to other but now, its a matter of hours.
What has religion contributed to humanity apart from bloodshed and scam?
And dont get me started on christianity. Crusades, Witch Trials, Inquisition,Huguenot wars etc
You think christianity is thriving? Lol.
Bro, religion generally is declining. The percentage of religious folks are shrinking globally. Check polls and statistics. People didn't even know there are Nigerian atheists. And the number is growing. People are asking questions. And in terms of the fastest growing religion, its Islam not Christianity.
So Park well

MightySparrow:


We are saying the same thing. In the same Korea,, people pray to God to get healed. South Korea once had the largest church and people are getting healed there. I agree that healing can have many sources, that science has eclipsed others even now is the problem.
There are people in Korea that don't by choice use other means including the meditation and hospitals but prayers only and get their answers. Science has never eclipsed knowledge of a personal God. It is all by choice and more by experience.

I know scientific knowledge is important. Can you tell me the importance of knowledge of a personal God? Just one?

MightySparrow:


Of course you know by my small level of education I know a bit of electricity and a bit more of thermodynamics. A little more of Mathematics and above all practical thinking because engineering does not work on theory but measurable quantities.

So being a Christian, I can only talk about Christianity and Christian God. Science has said we have evolved from apes and possibly develop to something higher. Christian God has told the first man and woman and how they came into being, where and when. It has a perfect record of genealogy to Jesus Christ and the family of Jesus (Jews) till date.

God waited till man developed the art of writing before Moses could record the beginning. He showed Himself to Enoch, Noah, Moses and many others not from Israel like Pharaoh, Darius, etc.
From Eden till now He makes sure that His people appear in Egypt the ruling civilization to Assyrian to Babylonian to Medo - Persian, to Greek to Roman empire. His people challenged the wisdom and knowledge of the times and subdued them.
In the field of science the Jews won Nobel prize more than any people group. Of 900 people that have received the prize about 200 are Jews.

In today's world, the leaders of science are from places affected by Christian faith. Greater percentage of authorities in Science, Economics, politics etc that challenged and changed the course of things are directly or indirectly affected by Christian ethics.

Everybody is challenging the leadership of the West but the countries are but and advanced baby Christian values.
You mention most scientists they have names from the Bible. Good percentage of them.

1. science said we came from the great ape. Backed it up with evidence. Our anatomies are similar. We humans had tails while growing in the womb, some are even born with tails. Hell, we even have tail bones.
2. The creation stories stated in the Bible and other religious and cultural sources, are all myths. They have been proven not to have happened by history and science.
3. So Yahweh dictated the creation stories to Moses?
4. I thought it is stated in the Bible that anyone that sees Yahweh dies?
5. Same Jews that don't recognize Yahweh? Are you aware they wanna make preaching about Jesus a crime in Israel? About eight-in-ten (81%) Israeli adults are Jewish, while the remainder are mostly ethnically Arab and religiously Muslim (14%), [b]Christian (2%) [/b]or Druze (2%). In fact they have gay ministers. Something that cannot even happen in Nigeria. They have Gay Pride days. Something that cannot also happen in Nigeria.
Yet you still insist they are Yahweh's people

6. Are you also aware the West is secular and not Christian. From their laws, they have made that known. Legalizing gay marriage, trans, abortion etc.
7. Please how does having biblical names concern an atheist scientist? Is it his fault his Christian parents gave him or her a Christian name? Lol

SIRTee15:


Pls do not mention me in any of your dishonest post....never again.
Where did I say spontaneous remission in cancer do not occur. You continue to twist your words to suit your deluded and confused narrative.
I even had to do a mention of posts where I mentioned spontaneous remission in cancer do happen and u had the guts to come here and lie in my name.
Don't ever try this again. Otherwise I will take it up with the mods and have u banned. This will be my last warning.

Oh shut that dirty ignorant mouthing of yours. Did I say you said spontaneous remission do not occur? I said you said Spontaneous remission in non christians do not occur. Learn to read. If you can't read, enrolled in a night school

Image123:
Funny. So the update now is that there are miracles, but it's not by God or not only by God? LoLz. Hope the OP, Reed and other jokers got the update also, at least it's some progress. LoLz

Yes they are miracles til science proves its source and then it doesn't become a miracle again.
If you can read, the topic says what god cannot do , so which god healed the atheists and Muslims etc?
What do you mean its some progress? Progress in what?

LordReed:


Who is the global coordinator of science?

Me

LordReed:


Abeg send one to FxMasterz maybe he can cast out the fibroid. LoLz.

Please I need his help

Image123:


You can't count? Mention 5 Christians on this forum and the post where they boasted on this forum to "you" that they heal all manner of disease. We go wait till next 50 years. Joker.

Lol.
The latest is RoyalDiadems. I can't remember the others. I have been on Nairaland for years. By the way, are you saying christians don't heal again?

Image123:


Lolz, when he heals the fibriod, we know your next format na. God healed this fibriod and allowed millions to die bla bla bla, healing is not only done by God yen yen yen. Bunch of clowns.

If you have a reasoning brain, you'll know we are mocking you when we say that. We know there was no healing. But of course you don't reason.

jaephoenix:

Oh shut that dirty ignorant mouthing of yours. Did I say you said spontaneous remission do not occur? I said you said Spontaneous remission in non christians do not occur. Learn to read. If you can't read, enrolled in a night school

Where did I say spontaneous remission in non Christians do not occur...where?
U are a desperate liar, clutching at straws. Stop mentioning my name to proof your deluded weak pseudo atheist theory. Only God knows if u struggling with confabulation, answering questions never asked.

SIRTee15:


Where did I say spontaneous remission in non Christians do not occur...where?
U are a desperate liar, clutching at straws. Stop mentioning my name to proof your deluded weak pseudo atheist theory. Only God knows if u struggling with confabulation, answering questions never asked.

So if you didn't say that why were you demanding for links and stories where SR happened? Liar

jaephoenix:

If you have a reasoning brain, you'll know we are mocking you when we say that. We know there was no healing. But of course you don't reason.

That one won't know a joke if it sucked his dick. LMFAO!

Image123:


Lolz, when he heals the fibriod, we know your next format na. God healed this fibriod and allowed millions to die bla bla bla, healing is not only done by God yen yen yen. Bunch of clowns.

Don't mind them. As if they haven't seen God do any miracles before. They explain it away and continue in their delusions. Who is deceiving who?

jaephoenix:

Lol.
The latest is RoyalDiadems. I can't remember the others. I have been on Nairaland for years. By the way, are you saying christians don't heal again?

Half mark. Get the other half by showing us where he/she said that he/she can heal all manner of disease. Then mention the other 4 since you can't count. It should not be such a struggle. Of course you don't have it, so there'd be some violent rigmarole in 3, 2, 1....
Mention 5 Christians on this forum and the post where they boasted on this forum to "you" that they heal all manner of disease. We go wait till next 50 years. Joker.

jaephoenix:

Yes they are miracles til science proves its source and then it doesn't become a miracle again.
If you can read, the topic says what god cannot do , so which god healed the atheists and Muslims etc?
What do you mean its some progress? Progress in what?

Hmmm, how convenient. There is no miracle, there is no God, but here you say they are miracles. Can you be more rational? Are there miracles or there are no miracles? If you now believe in miracles, it is good progress off the road of folly. Then who can move on to who is doing the miracles. Good job, good job.

jaephoenix:

So if you didn't say that why were you demanding for links and stories where SR happened? Liar

U better go and check yourself in a mental rehab home and seek help with your demented memory.
If u not confusing me with someone else, u making up stories about me or u filling up your memory gaps with my mentions.
Very soon, u will see me in your dreams chasing u.

Don't mention me again, otherwise u answer to the mods.
I'm not responsible for your troubles, blame it on your fixed destiny u brought from heaven or whatever.

jaephoenix:

If you have a reasoning brain, you'll know we are mocking you when we say that. We know there was no healing. But of course you don't reason.

FRANCISTOWN, kindly confirm you were mocking and who you were mocking in this post. Is there healing or there is no healing?

LordReed:


That one won't know a joke if it sucked his dick. LMFAO!

Little reed, i have always known you as a clown for years, why do you lie on my respected person na? i know a joke and i know jokers.

MightySparrow:

It is all by choice and more by experience.

It is not by experience, though it may be by choice, why not? Many people can choose to be stupid.
Lemme tell you. Human beings are like honey, but they do not know. God is like sugar.
Wether you add a spoonful of sugar into your honey or not doesn't mean the honey will be sweeter, as a matter of fact. It may become poisonous.

Some pray to some random god (be it yhwh, Allah, Rock, Whatever) . They get healed.

Some don't pray at all and yet they get healed.

Some pray to some random god(be it yhwh, Allah, Rock, Whatever), still they don't get healed

Some don't pray at all yet they still don't get healed.

What does that tell you? That's simply the law of average at work and the god factor is pretty useless

MightySparrow:

It has a perfect record of genealogy to Jesus Christ and the family of Jesus (Jews) till date.

There is no such thing as being perfect.

Science thru geological and archeological facts has proven that our great great fore fathers
In principio existed more than 200,000 years ago as opposed the bible which is barely 8,000 years ago. So how is that a perfect record of genealogy?

I still maintain that aside your religious books, there is no other record that confirms the existence of Jesus. Genghis Khan lived far before the time your said Jesus lived, yet there are irrefutable proofs that he truly lived. I say this again. Jesus never lived, and there is no record that Isrealites were slaves in the land of Egypt not to talk of crossing the Red Sea.

MightySparrow:

God waited till man developed the art of writing before Moses could record the beginning.

The God of the whole universe, the omnipotent and omniscienct God was waiting for man to develop the art of writing. Lol, couldn't he just imbibe the knowledge of writing into Adam since creation?

That's what he always does. He is waiter.

MightySparrow:

In the field of science the Jews won Nobel prize more than any people group. Of 900 people that have received the prize about 200 are Jews.

In today's world, the leaders of science are from places affected by Christian faith. Greater percentage of authorities in Science, Economics, politics etc that challenged and changed the course of things are directly or indirectly affected by Christian ethics.

Everybody is challenging the leadership of the West but the countries are but and advanced baby Christian values.
You mention most scientists they have names from the Bible. Good percentage of them.

Lemme tell you something, Science has been in existence before your jesus. Egypt was already far ahead in science and technology before your christian bs.

The Yoruba race has also demonstrated a level of advanced science in the past according to legends.

To burst your brain. Did you know that all the words of Wisdom that you see in the Bible were not from God, Jesus or any of the prophets.

The words of wisdom that can be found in the Bible are the works of ancient philosophers. It was Emperor Augustine who closed down the school of Philosophy, burnt their works so people could think that knowledge came into the world thru god.

Many of these scientists that you talk about were either agnostic, atheistic or apatheistic and the fact that they answered Jewish names never made them Christians. Even the few among them who were practicing Christianity didn't credit their success to God because they knew he didn't do shit

jaephoenix:

Ok bro. I been away for a week from Nairaland. Would check it later.
I usually don't believe online testimonies. They turn out to be lies, unfortunately. Hope you don't feel offended.
Psoriasis as I know is incurable but can be managed, like diabetes. This means you can mitigate the symptoms considerably. Lets assume your wife was healed? Are you saying she didn't take any drugs whatsoever? About your daughter, I guess she had osteomyelitis. Are you saying she didn't take any drugs?
You can claim any miracles. I can even claim I fly to work daily. Where the problem starts is providing evidences

Exactly bro. There no point asking for a proof of something that is capable of intellectual suicide.

FRANCISTOWN:

There is no such thing as being perfect.

Science thru geological and archeological facts has proven that our great great fore fathers
El principio existed more than 200,000 years ago as opposed the bible which is barely 8,000 years ago. So how is that a perfect record of genealogy?

I still maintain that aside your religious books, there is no other record that confirms the existence of Jesus. Genghis Khan lived far before the time your said Jesus lived, yet there are irrefutable proofs that he truly lived. I say this again. Jesus never lived, and there is no record that Isrealites were slaves in the land of Egypt not to talk of crossing the Red Sea.




The God of the whole universe, the omnipotent and omniscienct God was waiting for man to develop the art of writing. Lol, couldn't he just imbibe the knowledge of writing into Adam since creation?

That's what he always does. He is waiter.



Lemme tell you something, Science has been in existence before your jesus. Egypt was already far ahead in science and technology before your christian bs.

The Yoruba race has also demonstrated a level of advanced science in the past according to legends.

To burst your brain. Did you know that all the words of Wisdom that you see in the Bible were not from God, Jesus or any of the prophets.

The words of wisdom that can be found in the Bible are the works of ancient philosophers. It was Emperor Augustine who closed down the school of Philosophy, burnt their works so people could think that knowledge came into the world thru god.

Many of these scientists that you talk about were either agnostic, atheistic or apatheistic and the fact that they answered Jewish names never made them Christians. Even the few among them who were practicing Christianity didn't credit their success to God because they knew he didn't do shit

1. There's no history by any historian beyond 6000 years anywhere. The earliest records by Egyptian, later Babylonian etc. Science rely on carbon dating. Carbon dating itself has its own problems. O think you know the meaning of 'theory '
It simply means the truth of a thing is not known. A model is put forward and see if it complies with observation. With a failed theory another model is sought. Evolution is not definite till today and not all scientists agree with it. It has its gray areas.

2. Genghis Khan (born Temüjin; c. 1162 — 25 August 1227), also known as Chinggis Khan,[a] was the founder and first khagan of the Mongol Empire, which later became the largest contiguous land empire in history. Having spent the majority of his life uniting the Mongol tribes, he launched a series of military campaigns which conquered large parts of China and Central Asia.

Conclusion: Lie.

3. You have closed your mind to the concept of Christianity and religion. Until you study the Bible you will just remain a critic. The question is why are over one billion Christian devotees don't agree with your views ?

jaephoenix:

I had this debate with 2 christians. One of them SirTee15 claims Yahweh healed a woman of stage 4 cervical cancer. I told him spontaneous remission of cancers happen in both Muslims, atheists etc. People who don't give a fvck about Yahweh, but he didn't believe me. Such ignorant christians amuse me

He would never believe you. That is the first symptom you see in people who religion has eaten all the cells in their brain

FRANCISTOWN:


It is not by experience, though it may be by choice, why not? Many people can choose to be stupid.
Lemme tell you. Human beings are like honey, but they do not know. God is like sugar.
Wether you add a spoonful of sugar into your honey or not doesn't mean the honey will be sweeter, as a matter of fact. It may become poisonous.

Some pray to some random god (be it yhwh, Allah, Rock, Whatever) . They get healed.

Some don't pray at all and yet they get healed.

Some pray to some random god(be it yhwh, Allah, Rock, Whatever), still they don't get healed

Some don't pray at all yet they still don't get healed.

What does that tell you? That's simply the law of average at work and the god factor is pretty useless

Check my thread on truth
https://www.nairaland.com/7551429/what-truth

jaephoenix:

I told him I have wings too. I mean good ol' angelic wings which I use to glide.
Telling christians to provide evidence is always a problem. I can't count the number of Christians who have boasted on this forum to me that they heal all manner of disease. Yet during evidence time, they get slippery. I told one of them I'll send some fibroid cases his way, he hasn't replied me

🤣🤣🤣🤣. Some of these faithfools know deep down their heart that their "imaginary god" is incapable of shit but the reason they fight so hard is because they don't wanna believe that they've been stupid all their lives.

Tell people that there is nothing like hell or Satan and see how people will begin to drop the Abrahamic faith like a hot coal.

Their inexistent god does not do shit for them, they are only trying to convince themselves.

I'll like to send some blind cases along too

jaephoenix:

As a physician, I can attest to that. Spontaneous regression or remission is a phenomenon scientists are researching daily. Various hypotheses abound

Thank you. Most of these faithfools will never believe.

In the entirety of their stupidity, when you say an atheist got healed in a way science can't explain yet. Their dumbheads would still say "God showed the atheist mercy" or "Someone is praying for them in their stead" or "The prayers they've prayed before they turned atheist is what is working for them".

They always look for ways to credit the glory to their imaginary god.

If God could leave all the billions of people who are shouting his name and he visits some random dude who doesn't give a bleep about him. Should we not question the common sense of their god and his sense of loyalty?

jaephoenix:

1. science said we came from the great ape. Backed it up with evidence. Our anatomies are similar. We humans had tails while growing in the womb, some are even born with tails. Hell, we even have tail bones.
2. The creation stories stated in the Bible and other religious and cultural sources, are all myths. They have been proven not to have happened by history and science.
3. So Yahweh dictated the creation stories to Moses?
4. I thought it is stated in the Bible that anyone that sees Yahweh dies?
5. Same Jews that don't recognize Yahweh? Are you aware they wanna make preaching about Jesus a crime in Israel? About eight-in-ten (81%) Israeli adults are Jewish, while the remainder are mostly ethnically Arab and religiously Muslim (14%), [b]Christian (2%) [/b]or Druze (2%). In fact they have gay ministers. Something that cannot even happen in Nigeria. They have Gay Pride days. Something that cannot also happen in Nigeria.
Yet you still insist they are Yahweh's people

6. Are you also aware the West is secular and not Christian. From their laws, they have made that known. Legalizing gay marriage, trans, abortion etc.
7. Please how does having biblical names concern an atheist scientist? Is it his fault his Christian parents gave him or her a Christian name? Lol

I hope you know the meaning of 'theory' A model proposed and you begin to observe whether they are related with reality. Evolution has not proved why baboon has not done anything scientifically or improve their quality of life these hundred of million out years of their existence.
Man hasn't evolved to something higher. While I commend scientists in their search, science has not proven that the universe is a product of accident but of an intelligent being.
Professor Francis Crick in his work on DNA has same idea.
An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.
Francis Crick, Life Itself: Its Origin and Nature
Tags: chance, life, miracles, origin-of-life, science

SIRTee15:


Pls do not mention me in any of your dishonest post....never again.
Where did I say spontaneous remission in cancer do not occur. You continue to twist your words to suit your deluded and confused narrative.
I even had to do a mention of posts where I mentioned spontaneous remission in cancer do happen and u had the guts to come here and lie in my name.
Don't ever try this again. Otherwise I will take it up with the mods and have u banned. This will be my last warning.

Read well before you comment. He never said you rebuted the fact that there are several cases of spontaneous remissions of cancer, what he said was that you slightly disagreed that such cases could only occur within the confines of "God"

jaephoenix:

Yes, science has some uncertainty. And aint ashamed of it. In fact, it thrives in proving its uncertainty and making itself less uncertain per day.
Religion? It tends to portray itself as certain and unfailing, but it it so riddled with lies and miseducations.
You said science hasn't solved any of man's problem. Really? At least health wise, sickle cell, HIV etc were death sentences before, but now its all good. Children die quickly from many diseases but vaccines etc have helped. Child birth were 50-50 but now maternal deaths are almost unheard of in some climes. I can go on.
People take weeks to travel from one continent to other but now, its a matter of hours.
What has religion contributed to humanity apart from bloodshed and scam?
And dont get me started on christianity. Crusades, Witch Trials, Inquisition,Huguenot wars etc
You think christianity is thriving? Lol.
Bro, religion generally is declining. The percentage of religious folks are shrinking globally. Check polls and statistics. People didn't even know there are Nigerian atheists. And the number is growing. People are asking questions. And in terms of the fastest growing religion, its Islam not Christianity.
So Park well

Sure?