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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by ANIMARTINS(m): 7:05am On Mar 23, 2023
People will just be talking anyhow without looking deeper. Has anyone cared to read the content to see which is richer? Or it's just about the bolded font. Shey court of appeal don turn to market where they will show you the petition of 12k and that of 5k. Unana ifiok ntok-eyen.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by zinaunreal(m): 7:11am On Mar 23, 2023
Johnthum:
We are not interested in the most cheapest one amongst them.

We sane Nigerians want Tinubu to return the Certificate given to him to the rightful owner.

We cannot allow Tinubu and his demented urchins to take someone's Mandate and get away with it 💯

Simple matter.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by BigYash: 7:15am On Mar 23, 2023
Bar1941:
They are both fools, Tinubu is far ahead of them in thinking and he will spend his complete 8years.
How he will loot in the next 8years abi? Someone won rigged to win,you expect him to make the country better abi? Dey play.. Baba is going to recover and to loot more.. After he leaves there,you can not do him anything, cux immunity covers him. Meanwhile, the you in the village or you in the city working 8-5 job will keep suffering their bad policies.. Now tell me,btwn you and Tinubu ,who get sense pass?

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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by lomodele(m): 7:20am On Mar 23, 2023
are people this dumb or they just chose to be ignorant? The difference in the amount between the two cases filed is 7k and that's due to oath and ctc. This price variance is based where both cases where filed (they were not filed in by the same person and in same location). You can expect oaths money in Ikorodu to be the same with Ikeja high court.
nlfpmod:


https://twitter.com/VictorIsrael_/status/1638291009451769860
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by tolexy007(m): 7:22am On Mar 23, 2023
as for me my fight is that The presidency must come bk to the South. I voted for Obi, but am still Ok with Tinubu. But since the day Inec announce Tinubu I don move on.

I never see any Court in Nigeria that will on sit a president.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Tzar(m): 7:32am On Mar 23, 2023
You people are just clowns!
The difference is from the number of the witness statements on oath filed.

Atiku simply filed more oaths than Obi.
Why are you people like this??! Always overdramatizing everything!

SLAP44:
grin grin

You guys don't know who Peter Obi is, he will always save money in every thing he does, he achieves same or more results with less money spent. An investment guru, financial expert and Street smart billionaire.

Peter Obi will use same Nigeria budget to do all the roads, bridges, hospitals, schools and all institutions while paying workers and contractors well, and still save money in trillions.

Peter Obi is an efficient manager of resources.

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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by boxypane(m): 7:38am On Mar 23, 2023
Johnthum:
We are not interested in the most cheapest one amongst them.

We sane Nigerians want Tinubu to return the Certificate given to him to the rightful owner.

We cannot allow Tinubu and his demented urchins to take someone's Mandate and get away with it 💯
You must be certainly INSANE.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by AbuAeesha: 7:57am On Mar 23, 2023
CSTRR:

Look at the date.

As at 2013 when he was still governor.

That is with a fraction of the resources available to most states.
Lolz
No point arguing
We were old enough to know what happened during his tenure as gov.
Not what he gave as a speech to news vendors.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by GhaliNaaba(m): 8:31am On Mar 23, 2023
How can a party that produce just a governor and 6 senator with 37 house of Rep Produce a president? Are you thinking from you anus?
Johnthum:
We are not interested in the most cheapest one amongst them.

We sane Nigerians want Tinubu to return the Certificate given to him to the rightful owner.

We cannot allow Tinubu and his demented urchins to take someone's Mandate and get away with it 💯
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by buharitill2023: 8:38am On Mar 23, 2023
eyescue:


Hope you will change your moniker, as the expiration year is here and will be due in a few months.
I will change it to tinubutill2031
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by OceanRed(m): 8:47am On Mar 23, 2023
Gangster1ms:
"Before 2023 elections, I told Igbos that after the elections, they will find out that North is not their problem but a tribe from South. In this elections, no state in the North prevented non Indigenes from voting. Igbos should know their real enemy not North."
~ SANUSI

Lies from pits of hell, Sanusi did not say this. only lagos had issue with lp candidate, no one prevented igbos from voting in other states.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by billyG(m): 8:49am On Mar 23, 2023
Fear they caught court registrar them no fit hammer Peter Obi frivolous charge.

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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by updatechange(m): 8:51am On Mar 23, 2023
Stevyne:
Bi awon baba nla baba e shey lule

EJO ma Lule nii
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by billyG(m): 8:55am On Mar 23, 2023
Fear they catch d court registrar he no fit hammer Peter Obi frivolous charges....the fear of an upright,principled, incorrigible man is d beginning of wisdom.
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by azeezboi(m): 9:05am On Mar 23, 2023
Johnthum:
We are not interested in the most cheapest one amongst them.

We sane Nigerians want Tinubu to return the Certificate given to him to the rightful owner.

We cannot allow Tinubu and his demented urchins to take someone's Mandate and get away with it 💯


The cry continues

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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Misterone: 9:14am On Mar 23, 2023
*Peter Obi's Petition At The Election Tribunal Is Bereft Of Statutory Allegations:*

By: *Barrister Obol Okoi Obono-Obla*

I have read a copy of the Petition filed on 21 March 2023 by the Presidential candidate of the Labour Party, Peter Obi before the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal, Abuja.
In this write, I will only dwell on two issues raised in the Petition.

They are the alleged No-qualifications of the APC presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, and the Vice President's running mate Senator Kashim Shettima.

The petitioner (Peter Obi) alleged that the President-Elect is linked to drugs or narcotics.
I will quickly submit that linkage to drugs is not one of the disqualification criteria spelled out in the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria,1999 (as amended).

Before you can be barred from contesting you must have suffered a conviction that is related to dishonesty ten years before the election you want to contest.

In the case under reference it is alleged that the case took place in 1993 which is 20 years ago.
The election Asiwaju Bola Tinubu contested took place on 25 February 2023 more than 20 years after the event complained about.
Section 137 (e) of the 1999 constitution is a perfect answer to ground one of the Petition.

It provides as follows:
He has been convicted and sentenced for an offense involving dishonesty or he has been found guilty of contravention of the Code of Conduct.
Assuming the offense in which the President-Elect amounts to a criminal conviction, ten years have elapsed.

If the conviction took place in 1993, this is almost 20 years.
The Constitution contemplates the conviction to have taken place ten years from the date of the election in which the candidate participated.
A forfeiture proceeding that doesn't end in the conviction of the defendant is not a conviction in the eye of the law.

I do not think that a forfeiture proceeding is a criminal proceeding contemplated by the Constitution.
A forfeiture proceeding is a non-conviction proceeding.

There are two types of forfeiture proceedings.
They are civil and criminal.

Civil forfeiture proceedings, for example, are directed against property (independent of any criminal proceeding) alleged to have been used in criminal activity.

In the American context, these procedures require only that the government shows probable cause that the property was implicated in criminal activity.

On the other hand, criminal forfeiture proceedings require that the defendant go through the full process of a criminal trial and suffer a conviction.
When the defendant suffers a conviction any property he has found to derive from the proceeds of a crime is seized from him and forfeited to the government.

The second ground on which Peter Obi's Petition is hinged is that the Vice President-Elect, Senator Kashim Shettima filed a double nomination (Vice Presidential and senatorial).
Assuming Shettima indulged in double nomination it cannot be a ground for an election petition. The electoral act did not say that any candidate that indulges in double nomination is liable to disqualification.

It only prescribes a term of imprisonment if the person is found guilty.
That means the person has to go through an investigation, prosecution, and conviction.

This cannot be done through an election petition.
The Presidential Election Petition Tribunal has no jurisdiction to hear and determine this part of the Petition.

Lastly, the Petitioner alleges that the Election held on 25 February 2023 was marred by corrupt practices and was not conducted in compliance with the provisions of the Electoral Act,2022.

An answer to this issue is provided in section 138 of the Electoral Act which provides that the Tribunal cannot nullify an election if it found that it was conducted in substantial compliance with the provisions of the Electoral Act.

I think the Petition is blustery and vexatious.
I do not see Peter Obi winning this case based on the facts presented in his petition and the state of the Law.

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Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by buharitill2023: 9:20am On Mar 23, 2023
diggindeep:



But they are not like BATS that steals everything
that is one of the things I like about tinubu,
He is a generous and kind
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Geonigga(m): 9:47am On Mar 23, 2023
The different in the cost is as a result of the number of exhibits attached to it
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Shantyken(m): 9:48am On Mar 23, 2023
Misterone:
*Peter Obi's Petition At The Election Tribunal Is Bereft Of Statutory Allegations:*

By: *Barrister Obol Okoi Obono-Obla*

I have read a copy of the Petition filed on 21 March 2023 by the Presidential candidate of the Labour Party, Peter Obi before the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal, Abuja.
In this write, I will only dwell on two issues raised in the Petition.

They are the alleged No-qualifications of the APC presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, and the Vice President's running mate Senator Kashim Shettima.

The petitioner (Peter Obi) alleged that the President-Elect is linked to drugs or narcotics.
I will quickly submit that linkage to drugs is not one of the disqualification criteria spelled out in the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria,1999 (as amended).

Before you can be barred from contesting you must have suffered a conviction that is related to dishonesty ten years before the election you want to contest.

In the case under reference it is alleged that the case took place in 1993 which is 20 years ago.
The election Asiwaju Bola Tinubu contested took place on 25 February 2023 more than 20 years after the event complained about.
Section 137 (e) of the 1999 constitution is a perfect answer to ground one of the Petition.

It provides as follows:
He has been convicted and sentenced for an offense involving dishonesty or he has been found guilty of contravention of the Code of Conduct.
Assuming the offense in which the President-Elect amounts to a criminal conviction, ten years have elapsed.

If the conviction took place in 1993, this is almost 20 years.
The Constitution contemplates the conviction to have taken place ten years from the date of the election in which the candidate participated.
A forfeiture proceeding that doesn't end in the conviction of the defendant is not a conviction in the eye of the law.

I do not think that a forfeiture proceeding is a criminal proceeding contemplated by the Constitution.
A forfeiture proceeding is a non-conviction proceeding.

There are two types of forfeiture proceedings.
They are civil and criminal.

Civil forfeiture proceedings, for example, are directed against property (independent of any criminal proceeding) alleged to have been used in criminal activity.

In the American context, these procedures require only that the government shows probable cause that the property was implicated in criminal activity.

On the other hand, criminal forfeiture proceedings require that the defendant go through the full process of a criminal trial and suffer a conviction.
When the defendant suffers a conviction any property he has found to derive from the proceeds of a crime is seized from him and forfeited to the government.

The second ground on which Peter Obi's Petition is hinged is that the Vice President-Elect, Senator Kashim Shettima filed a double nomination (Vice Presidential and senatorial).
Assuming Shettima indulged in double nomination it cannot be a ground for an election petition. The electoral act did not say that any candidate that indulges in double nomination is liable to disqualification.

It only prescribes a term of imprisonment if the person is found guilty.
That means the person has to go through an investigation, prosecution, and conviction.

This cannot be done through an election petition.
The Presidential Election Petition Tribunal has no jurisdiction to hear and determine this part of the Petition.

Lastly, the Petitioner alleges that the Election held on 25 February 2023 was marred by corrupt practices and was not conducted in compliance with the provisions of the Electoral Act,2022.

An answer to this issue is provided in section 138 of the Electoral Act which provides that the Tribunal cannot nullify an election if it found that it was conducted in substantial compliance with the provisions of the Electoral Act.

I think the Petition is blustery and vexatious.
I do not see Peter Obi winning this case based on the facts presented in his petition and the state of the Law.

Dem never read this one ooo
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by ufotunang: 9:53am On Mar 23, 2023
phorget:
Prudency.
...so it's cheap to file a case in a court...I thought it costs millions of naira to file cases in courts in nigeria
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by ufotunang: 9:55am On Mar 23, 2023
So it's cheap like this to file cases in court, I thought it costs millions of naira to file cases in court in nigeria
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by richeeyo(m): 10:51am On Mar 23, 2023
Urheadmaster:
Urchins no get manner tongue
Una get manner before election
No be no you people look stupid
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by ismodiwa(m): 10:57am On Mar 23, 2023
SLAP44:
grin grin

You guys don't know who Peter Obi is, he will always save money in every thing he does, he achieves same or more results with less money spent. An investment guru, financial expert and Street smart billionaire.

Peter Obi will use same Nigeria budget to do all the roads, bridges, hospitals, schools and all institutions while paying workers and contractors well, and still save money in trillions.

Peter Obi is an efficient manager of resources.

Did he do so in Anambara? YES OR NO?
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Stevyne: 1:03pm On Mar 23, 2023
updatechange:


EJO ma Lule nii
Awon iyalaya e
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by updatechange(m): 1:31pm On Mar 23, 2023
Stevyne:
Awon iyalaya e


Ati awon babanlaku Babare gbogbowon ma lule nii
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Stevyne: 1:33pm On Mar 23, 2023
updatechange:



Ati awon babanlaku Babare gbogbowon ma lule nii
Awon Iran did ran e gbogbo won ma lule. Edaa oshi
Re: Atiku's ₦12,430 Case File Vs Obi's ₦5,430 Case File by Tutu19: 1:38pm On Mar 23, 2023
PDP lawyers are criminals. Ordinary to file case dem still double the amount. Must u steal? Who swear for that PDP?

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