Iamgrey5:
Which time in history have Niger, Adamawa and Bauchi in your middle belt map ever voted along with Christians.

And there's Yorubas in Kogi but you covered it entirely In your middle belt.

jumper524:
were northerners and just like every Northerner we face some sense of descrimination and acceptance at some point in time. Even the core northerners do face it. But come to reality, the middle belt have the worst leaders in Nigeria. No single state in the north central has an outstanding governor. The best amongst them are slightly below average.
This has nothing to do with the core North you want us to beleive are our enemy.
Unlike the south, the north don't politicise our plight to see us as brothers.
Bro I'm from abuj and I rep North with my full chest.

PAWG:



This statement of yours is why I’m against Biafra claiming any other state outside the SE; minorities would be dominated and eventually discriminated even worse than the current arrangement in the Nigerian state

Raheeqilmaktoom:


Major mistake, the north has never claimed homogenity, it's the most diverse zone in the country and save a few places, those diversities are well managed.

Raheeqilmaktoom:


It has never been about liberation, it's all about getting power from the 'fulanis' they're had to play third fiddle to since independence, and that power, for the sake of domineering like everything in their lives.

Ertugrul:
that is a good point you have made, self preservation will trump whatever association the core north has with other ethnicities, thanks to the current administration , these old wounds have been reopened

PAWG:



This statement of yours is why I’m against Biafra claiming any other state outside the SE; minorities would be dominated and eventually discriminated even worse than the current arrangement in the Nigerian state

Ertugrul:
please what is your ethnicity?
It is also important to note that the people u mentioned are keen or holding unto power and expanding because of the history of how they became the major force in the region

Raheeqilmaktoom:


On NL and Twitter?

If you follow this platforms, you will be made to believe that hausas and fulanis are in an open battle for space.

Raheeqilmaktoom:


A certain people make reference to ethnicity as the major basis for taking any decision and action. You know who.

Ertugrul:
why then do you make unbiased contributions to this thread, it is people like you that can reinvent your ethnicity , expansion in this modern age will backfire, domination in this modern age will back fire especially in a union with other powers in the waiting

Iamgrey5:
Which time in history have Niger, Adamawa and Bauchi in your middle belt map ever voted along with Christians.

And there's Yorubas in Kogi but you covered it entirely In your middle belt.

Spicycat:


This is the religious politics that will never let the likes of obi win the general elections in Nigeria, we are talking about middle belt and you are here talking about religion.

Raheeqilmaktoom:


People like me? 😂

Every argument who've made has been based on ethnicity but you are quick to turn around and blame it on somebody else?

Will you guys ever change? 😂

BentizilL:

Ethnic and religious bigot like Obi will never be Nigeria president... We don't want a tribalist as our president..✅

Ertugrul:
It is with Joy in my heart as i see the middle belt people of indeginous Northern Nigeria rising up to preserve their identity and breakaway from the domination of you know who...this will signal a new dawn and a change in order if this momentum is to continue, to my dear people of middle belt, ur invaders do not care about your religion as they continue to expand, an alliance with the South is your best bet, we must come together and reshape the Nigerian order... A New Nigeria is Possible with a South/Middle Belt alliance, i do not sincerely believe that The SW will abandon the rest of the south and MB to ally with the other people...
We move

Ertugrul:
It is with Joy in my heart as i see the middle belt people of indeginous Northern Nigeria rising up to preserve their identity and breakaway from the domination of you know who...this will signal a new dawn and a change in order if this momentum is to continue, to my dear people of middle belt, ur invaders do not care about your religion as they continue to expand, an alliance with the South is your best bet, we must come together and reshape the Nigerian order... A New Nigeria is Possible with a South/Middle Belt alliance, i do not sincerely believe that The SW will abandon the rest of the south and MB to ally with the other people...
We move

Ertugrul:
no, it is common sense, for the areas that diversity is well managed, it still doesn't mean the indeginous people who have little say are 100 percent happy, they have only found a compromise, a new power and order which presents them a better deal will most certainly tempt them away from their current overlords

Ertugrul:
bro read very well, i said u have made "unbiased" contributions which i appreciate, it is people like you that can "reinvent"your ethnicity, you are very knowledgeable, i appreciate you boss

Raheeqilmaktoom:


For newer overlords? Once whose only ambition is power even at their own (so called indigenous) expense? Lol.

Ertugrul:
from Abuja, i guess you are gbagyi, while i respect your views, if self preservation is not an issue to you, your kin in other states will want to preserve their identity, and thus will always avail an opportunity to renegotiate the status quo...

Raheeqilmaktoom:


Almost got flattered, but ethnicity maters the least to me and my likes.

Iamgrey5:
Which time in history have Niger, Adamawa and Bauchi in your middle belt map ever voted along with Christians.
look at this old time coneheaded structure,who invited you hia,do you think they are talking about amala ati ewedu gbegiri hia?! Nansense and coneheads!!!!
And there's Yorubas in Kogi but you covered it entirely In your middle belt.

jumper524:
you can deceive political minions but not me. The hand stretched forward would only preserve you as per you how much you bring to the table.
I repeat how does being a Northerner hinder me from self presentation. Your trespassing and its for your selfish interest and you know it. Imagine me trying to create an identity disperancies in the race of every region.
You sure know there are many hidden minority tribes associated with your tribe. The south giving me a hand of friendship didn't recognizer their minority and they want to recognise me the new bride?
Common, this narrative is no longer selling again.
The North central is more than OK with identify with the north than any other region.

Iamgrey5:
Which time in history have Niger, Adamawa and Bauchi in your middle belt map ever voted along with Christians.

And there's Yorubas in Kogi but you covered it entirely In your middle belt.

Ertugrul:
but in reality it should matter, your people have to make swift changes....i wouldn't want to advise you 1. but keeping the main people u conquered uneducated is no longer a viable means of consolidating ur power, 2. u must accept that u can no longer have 100 percent control, you must share power with The H people , 3. the Same way u manipulate them due to lack of education, it will only take smart propaganda to turn a faction of them against you...this is the reality coming...
I already see in parts of the NW where the H and F people are locked in bitter feuds, the more poor and uneducated they are, the more likely they are to be prone to manipulation, one day they will rise up to demand more equity

jumper524:
you can deceive political minions but not me. The hand stretched forward would only preserve you as per you how much you bring to the table.
I repeat how does being a Northerner hinder me from self presentation. Your trespassing and its for your selfish interest and you know it. Imagine me trying to create an identity disperancies in the race of every region.
You sure know there are many hidden minority tribes associated with your tribe. The south giving me a hand of friendship didn't recognizer their minority and they want to recognise me the new bride?
Common, this narrative is no longer selling again.
The North central is more than OK with identify with the north than any other region.

Ertugrul:
It is with Joy in my heart as i see the middle belt people of indeginous Northern Nigeria rising up to preserve their identity and breakaway from the domination of you know who...this will signal a new dawn and a change in order if this momentum is to continue, to my dear people of middle belt, ur invaders do not care about your religion as they continue to expand, an alliance with the South is your best bet, we must come together and reshape the Nigerian order... A New Nigeria is Possible with a South/Middle Belt alliance, i do not sincerely believe that The SW will abandon the rest of the south and MB to ally with the other people...
We move

Raheeqilmaktoom:


1. And 3. Show an apparent lack of knowledge and information about reality on ground. You seem to be guzzling down propaganda in huge quantities with no questions asked.

2. Your problem is, you see fulani in every failure of yours. Who told you the fulanis control everything?

You guys lack information and exposure.

Ertugrul:
you are very wrong, there is no hegemony in the South, the yorubas are the largest, igbos second, then all other ethnicities are there, there is no discrepancies, the creation of states and collapse of the Igbo led eastern government ended that narrative...
As a middle belt person, you are in the middle of a power tussle, you cannot stand on your own because your region is too diverse to come together, you must lean on any of the power blocs, u must choose the lesser of the evils wisely, if you as a person choose to maintain the status quo, so be it... I'm sure the gbagyi people in nassrawa may have a different opinion, and if the majority is swayed, u have no other option... A new Nigeria will emerge someday, the direction the middle belt tilts towards will determine the fate of a new order

Ertugrul:
all i have said is very basic and demands common sense to comprehend, is it propaganda that ur region has the lowest level of education? Is it not also statecraft from some of your elites to keep it that way? I do not speak out of ignorance, it is just common sense that with more illetracy comes the risk of manipulation which may not be in your favor...
For example, in my region, due to rising illetracy, some people have been brainwashed to seek secession at all cost...this is common sense... common sense should also let u know that with more education amongst ur conquered folks, they will ask more questions, its now good management that will ensure the status quo is kept...