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Why The Messiah Had To Die by Gagare1(m): 1:02pm On Apr 07, 2023
Death means complete separation and the results that follow.

In Genesis 2, God told Adam that eating the forbidden fruit will lead to his death. Adam ate the fruit and died instantly, but not the death that many of us imagined, he died because he was immediately separated from God. The glory he enjoyed left him, he was naked (striped of God's glory and anything associated with it). He immediately realised what happened and tried to fix it, but he no longer bears the glory and authority he once had. He must now do things by his own strength. And that is simply not enough. Remember, that was what he wanted when he ate the fruit in the first place; to be like God, answering to no one. But now, outside God, Adam did not like what he sees. Shame engulfed him. Everything once placed under his authority will now suffer the rule of a man who is striped of the power, wisdom, authority and righteousness to rule.

God had two options, to either let man rot forever or fix the mess (something only He has the power to do). So God began by pronouncing the consequences of man's action to man's hearing. Simply put, "everything you are meant to do will be done without my intervention ranging from getting your food, to child bearing. You will abuse everything under your care because you wouldn't know the best way to manage them. You can only try."

To minimise the damage that any single person can do during his lifetime of abuse, God prevented man from eating the tree of life and living forever.

Next, God began to put in place a plan to reconcile man with Himself. However, the consequences of man's action must be faced in full. God will not just overlook and let it slide, as many people may wish. It will be contrary to his person (the perfect judge who must ensure perfect justice). Also, having given the rulership of earth to man, only man can fix any mess here. Hence, fixing the mess must also be done by a man. This is why the Messiah must be a man, yet having the full power, authority, and perfection of God Himself.

In the person of Yeshua of Nazareth, the Messiah, He was born of a woman to prove that He is a man, but He was not fathered by man. He is the Spirit of God incarnate in human flesh. Hence, He lived a perfect life, suffered what man suffered, without sin. Then, through the wickedness of man, He was crucified in an attempt by Satan to break him into giving up on His mission to reconcile man with God. Yet, through all the physical and mental pain that a man can face, He willingly experienced death (separation from God) when He, by His Godly power to do all things, took Adam's sin as his own. "The righteous for the unrighteous". At that point, God had to separate from him (unimaginable separation of God from God). That was when He shouted, "Eloi! Eloi! Lamasabacthani?" Meaning: My God! My God! Why have you forsaken me?

The Messiah's sacrifice mission was completed while He was still alive, hanging on the cross. He only succumbed to his physical wounds afterwards. After all, He was a man.

The Messiah's physical death wasn't what saved us, it was His willingness to take up the consequences of sin (separation from God) that save us. He took what should have been ours in order to trade it for what we never could have gained. By His separation from God, we are reunited with God. His physical death was necessary, first due to him being fatally wounded as a man, second, in order to prove that His sacrifice was accepted when God raised Him from the dead. And God did just that. So we know for certain that the price is paid.

Accept Him today as God's only way of reconciliation. On this day, we remember what the Messiah endured to save us who believe. On Sunday, we will celebrate our living hope that God offers a second chance to man. One day, a New Earth will be our home, when our number is complete, until then, we keep trusting and exercising our new life within the places we find ourselves.

Indeed, the Day is Good.
Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by sonmvayina(m): 1:07pm On Apr 07, 2023
What makes you think death means anything to God?

Was he not the one that drowned everyone safe Noah and his family?

You really have a lot to learn...
Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by sonmvayina(m): 1:10pm On Apr 07, 2023
There are no contemporary non-biblical records about Jesus, none at all, and given that even the first biblical mention of him (1 Thessalonians) wasn’t written until some 20 years after he - or the person his biblical character was based on - died, all we can do is give an informed guess.

At the time, most criminals, which is how the person he was based on would have been seen and treated, were not crucified on a cross but tied to a simple stake in the ground. After they’d died their bodies were either left in place to rot and possibly be eaten by carrion, or, if the stake was needed again, be cut down and thrown into a common unmarked grave.

The biblical stories about his life and death, in particular the four gospels, are entirely allegorical and are little more than fictional stories based on several Old Testament ‘miracles’ which were updated and attributed to Jesus - whoever he was - as a means of ‘selling’ the new religion of Christianity to the Jews of the time by showing it was based on traditional Jewish stories and values.

In reality, Christianity has distorted Judaism. Christianity has taken some of the central tenets and aspects of Judaism, but has adapted and changed them to fit the faith’s own beliefs and practices. Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus and his apostles and holds the New Testament to be the word of God. This includes the acceptance of Jesus as the Messiah, the only begotten son of God, the belief in the Trinity, the belief in salvation through faith in Christ, and the belief in the resurrection of Jesus.
Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by Gagare1(m): 1:32pm On Apr 07, 2023
sonmvayina:
What makes you think death means anything to God?

Was he not the one that drowned everyone safe Noah and his family?

You really have a lot to learn...

You are entitled to an opinion.
Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by Gagare1(m): 1:32pm On Apr 07, 2023
You are entitled to an opinion
sonmvayina:
There are no contemporary non-biblical records about Jesus, none at all, and given that even the first biblical mention of him (1 Thessalonians) wasn’t written until some 20 years after he - or the person his biblical character was based on - died, all we can do is give an informed guess.

At the time, most criminals, which is how the person he was based on would have been seen and treated, were not crucified on a cross but tied to a simple stake in the ground. After they’d died their bodies were either left in place to rot and possibly be eaten by carrion, or, if the stake was needed again, be cut down and thrown into a common unmarked grave.

The biblical stories about his life and death, in particular the four gospels, are entirely allegorical and are little more than fictional stories based on several Old Testament ‘miracles’ which were updated and attributed to Jesus - whoever he was - as a means of ‘selling’ the new religion of Christianity to the Jews of the time by showing it was based on traditional Jewish stories and values.

In reality, Christianity has distorted Judaism. Christianity has taken some of the central tenets and aspects of Judaism, but has adapted and changed them to fit the faith’s own beliefs and practices. Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus and his apostles and holds the New Testament to be the word of God. This includes the acceptance of Jesus as the Messiah, the only begotten son of God, the belief in the Trinity, the belief in salvation through faith in Christ, and the belief in the resurrection of Jesus.
Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by sonmvayina(m): 1:35pm On Apr 07, 2023
Gagare1:


You are entitled to an opinion.

But you did not address my point...

Please attempt a response...

I will appreciate it..

Thanks..

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Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by sonmvayina(m): 1:38pm On Apr 07, 2023
Gagare1:
Death means complete separation and the results that follow.

In Genesis 2, God told Adam that eating the forbidden fruit will lead to his death. Adam ate the fruit and died instantly, but not the death that many of us imagined, he died because he was immediately separated from God. The glory he enjoyed left him, he was naked (striped of God's glory and anything associated with it). He immediately realised what happened and tried to fix it, but he no longer bears the glory and authority he once had. He must now do things by his own strength. And that is simply not enough. Remember, that was what he wanted when he ate the fruit in the first place; to be like God, answering to no one. But now, outside God, Adam did not like what he sees. Shame engulfed him. Everything once placed under his authority will now suffer the rule of a man who is striped of the power, wisdom, authority and righteousness to rule.

God had two options, to either let man rot forever or fix the mess (something only He has the power to do). So God began by pronouncing the consequences of man's action to man's hearing. Simply put, "everything you are meant to do will be done without my intervention ranging from getting your food, to child bearing. You will abuse everything under your care because you wouldn't know the best way to manage them. You can only try."

To minimise the damage that any single person can do during his lifetime of abuse, God prevented man from eating the tree of life and living forever.

Next, God began to put in place a plan to reconcile man with Himself. However, the consequences of man's action must be faced in full. God will not just overlook and let it slide, as many people may wish. It will be contrary to his person (the perfect judge who must ensure perfect justice). Also, having given the rulership of earth to man, only man can fix any mess here. Hence, fixing the mess must also be done by a man. This is why the Messiah must be a man, yet having the full power, authority, and perfection of God Himself.

In the person of Yeshua of Nazareth, the Messiah, He was born of a woman to prove that He is a man, but He was not fathered by man. He is the Spirit of God incarnate in human flesh. Hence, He lived a perfect life, suffered what man suffered, without sin. Then, through the wickedness of man, He was crucified in an attempt by Satan to break him into giving up on His mission to reconcile man with God. Yet, through all the physical and mental pain that a man can face, He willingly experienced death (separation from God) when He, by His Godly power to do all things, took Adam's sin as his own. "The righteous for the unrighteous". At that point, God had to separate from him (unimaginable separation of God from God). That was when He shouted, "Eloi! Eloi! Lamasabacthani?" Meaning: My God! My God! Why have you forsaken me?

The Messiah's sacrifice mission was completed while He was still alive, hanging on the cross. He only succumbed to his physical wounds afterwards. After all, He was a man.

The Messiah's physical death wasn't what saved us, it was His willingness to take up the consequences of sin (separation from God) that save us. He took what should have been ours in order to trade it for what we never could have gained. By His separation from God, we are reunited with God. His physical death was necessary, first due to him being fatally wounded as a man, second, in order to prove that His sacrifice was accepted when God raised Him from the dead. And God did just that. So we know for certain that the price is paid.

Accept Him today as God's only way of reconciliation. On this day, we remember what the Messiah endured to save us who believe. On Sunday, we will celebrate our living hope that God offers a second chance to man. One day, a New Earth will be our home, when our number is complete, until then, we keep trusting and exercising our new life within the places we find ourselves.

Indeed, the Day is Good.

You are entitled to your own opinion..

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Re: Why The Messiah Had To Die by Gagare1(m): 2:27pm On Apr 07, 2023
That is true.

Thanks for acknowledging that.
sonmvayina:


You are entitled to your own opinion..

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