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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IJEYdiamond(f): 10:35pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo

The money really had legs on its own... e just waka on e own come.... is alright!!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Nobody: 10:37pm On Apr 11, 2023
KPGGlobal:



Walai


ITS very difficult to defend evil ooooooooooooooooooooo


How do these guys sleep at night?

My brother, my tired is tired
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 10:37pm On Apr 11, 2023
onuman:



Your mumu is hitting sky level. Even the most foolish person in any 1950s industry wouldn't allow huge sums of money deposited in his account without first ascertaining the source of the money.

Yet we have many U.S court cases from the 90s upwards that shows the opposite. Yet the infiltration of illicit money used to purchase insurance policies, real estate etc have led to money laundering laws being strengthened now compared to the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

Go and educate yourself on the following U.S laws/acts before arguing online & stop embarrassing yourself:

Annunzio-Wylie Anti-Money Laundering Act (1992)
Money Laundering Suppression Act (1994)
Money Laundering and Financial Crimes Strategy Act (1998)
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 (USA PATRIOT Act)
Intelligence Reform & Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Analyst7: 10:38pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo

Can u imagine the utter foolishness of this people
Like say u will forfeit a large sum of money like that without putting up a fight grin grin
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Ayemileto(m): 10:38pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo

Gucciblog:


Me wey no be even Lawyer go carry lighter burn this kind defense brought by APC. Kai.

Well, for those that care to hear what APC said as reason for the forfeiture;

The forfeiture order was made against the bank account of Bola Tinubu and not the person of Bola Tinubu, claims BAT.

With this, all the boys EFCC are arrested in regards bank fraud can now appeal there cases.
Na their account get case no be them 😆 😂

APC'S defense be like

You should read about the types of forfeiture applicable in US, according to the official US justice website.

Read the "Civil Forfeiture" part specifically. You'll realise that the defence is actually right, and it makes sense.

https://www.justice.gov/afms/types-federal-forfeiture#

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Abbeytoy(m): 10:39pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that the American Court was not against Tinubu but against the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not the very innocent person. In APC's voice ooo

According to the defence, over one million dollars was in the account which does not belong to only Bola Ahmad Tinubu but also to one K.O Tinubu.

1 million dollars plus was released to Bola Tinubu when they find out he was not guilty and 460,000 that of one K O Tinubu was seized since he/or she cannot prove it was not illegal.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by tonididdy(m): 10:41pm On Apr 11, 2023
[quote author=IRIEBOY post=122455103][/quote]

I don't debate with sympathisers of a drug Lord!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IRIEBOY(m): 10:43pm On Apr 11, 2023
tonididdy:


I don't debate with sympathisers of a drug Lord!
not me sha. Check well
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by DeOTR: 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
NaijaCowFarm:

And in the nineties. That is like N345 million and you call it decree of forfeiture.

Dezianne is a SAINT
How is $460k equals N345million in the 90s?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by quickly: 10:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
For Obi supporters another lule

Looks like the forfeiture
Was due to
Breaking legal and tax codes and
Laundering money through heritage bank.

In fact, the government can initiate forfeiture proceedings even if no criminal charges have been filed against the account holder.

forfeiture can still have serious implications for the account holder, as they may lose their assets without being convicted of a crime. It's also worth noting that the government must provide a legal basis for the forfeiture and the account holder has the right to challenge the forfeiture in court.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Freebills12: 10:46pm On Apr 11, 2023
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PulaPower:
Furthermore, the release from forfeiture of other monies in the account the subject of the proceedings in Case No: 93C4483; in excess of one million dollars and for the benefit of the named beneficiary K.O Tinubu though not the account holder, less forfeited sum of $460,000.00 (Four Hundred and Sixty Thousand United States Dollars) is a manifest affirmation that the case was not a criminal trial and the fund forfeited was not a fine imposed as a punishment for a criminal conviction of any person- let alone the 2nd Respondent.

“The disqualification factors as stipulated by the Constitution only conceives of a conviction sentence or fine involving dishonesty or fraud or contravention of the Code of Conduct as found by a Court of the law of competent jurisdiction or Tribunal in Nigeria,” it added.

[color=#000099]Tinubu was never indicted nor convicted for any drug related crime or any other crime in USA..

As we suspected so the story line has changed, it is no longer that he lived in a room with a drug dealer that made US govt to charge them to court, and so the storyline is no longer that Tinibu owned financial institution and people deposited drug money in them... It is now that people opened account in his name and deposited drug money! US will sent an agent to testified what is CTC of Tinibu's forfeiture. You people played in Obi's hand.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Gbogbowa: 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2023
popesco123:
Olodo, read before you comment. Coco nut brain.

quote author=citygarden post=122450558]Finger Cross, tinubu will win this case. Is dead on arrival. Obi only want to try his luck. You can see the petition obi wrote to the court. He only want the Court to disqualify tinubu and court should order fresh election. He didn't claim he won the election as stated before he went to court. This case of drug have been tested in the courts doing obasanjo regime tinubu won upon being opposition to the government . Talk less of when is now awaiting gcfr.
stop calling someone olodo, can you forfeit money if you are not guity, from this defence Tinubu is gone
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Bigchristo: 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2023
Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/
If Nigeria is a country where leaders have morals n respect the interests of the country by now NBA should have written a letter to the Chicago district court n obtained first hand information instead of allowing APC to be telling court nonsense, he was given a plea bargain to forfeit the cash or go to jail. Baba Agbado sabi bribe his way including forfeiting money for freedom
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Alpharey: 10:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
Mr Bulaba, save us this epistle Biko. Go to court and explain to them. I thought you hired about 30 SANS. 🤣🤣. As I said before, I cannot allow any of my children to read or practice law in Nigeria. They have rubbished the profession. Tueh!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Ened(m): 10:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
Headless mob will still complain that BAT has bought US Embassy in Nigeria. Election defeat don affect sm people brain.lol.
If u like shout drug case, drug case, drug case...........from now til eternity. On May 29, BAT will be sworn in. We move.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 10:53pm On Apr 11, 2023
abbey621:


Yet we have many U.S court cases from the 90s upwards that shows the opposite. Yet the infiltration of illicit money used to purchase insurance policies, real estate etc have led to money laundering laws being strengthened now compared to the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

Go and educate yourself on the following U.S laws/acts before arguing online & stop embarrassing yourself:

Annunzio-Wylie Anti-Money Laundering Act (1992)
Money Laundering Suppression Act (1994)
Money Laundering and Financial Crimes Strategy Act (1998)
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 (USA PATRIOT Act)
Intelligence Reform & Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004

But it's hard to believe that you are a lawyer.
Even your grammatical blunders in nearly every sentence in your comments must be an embarrassment to TEUE American lawyers.
Lawyers hardly make their points through insulting epithets. Or are you another of Tinubu's artiful forgers based in the USA?
Even those on whose behalf Tinubu was banking the drug trafficking money were jailed.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Sammy5413(m): 10:56pm On Apr 11, 2023
Yeah he was living in same building with the drug dealers, we've heard that lie over and over. Just look for another lie to tell us

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 11:01pm On Apr 11, 2023
onuman:


But it's hard to believe that you are a lawyer.
Even your grammatical blunders in nearly every sentence in your comments must be an embarrassment to TEUE American lawyers.
Lawyers hardly make their points through insulting epithets. Or are you another of Tinubu's artiful forgers based in the USA?
Even those on whose behalf Tinubu was banking the drug trafficking money were jailed.



Yea you don't have anything to say, too lazy to do research, too pompous to admit you need education.....No be juju be that?

P.S. Who told you I'm a lawyer? What part of I.T and financial services do you not understand? Speaking of grammatical errors, I'm sure your onset amnesia caused you to forget punctuation and spell check; who starts a conversation with 'but'? grin grin grin
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by PulaPower: 11:06pm On Apr 11, 2023
43Ronin:

Please stop this! Lawyer or not we saw court documents and prosecution stating that the forfeiture was for heroine related case.... Stop showing US consulate letters and IGP they are not concrete evidence. If you guys wana do a good job, subpoena the FBI or the Chicago state Court for unclassified docs they will release to you with joy. I have helped you paste it below, pls can you or can you not see narcotics trafficking as reason for the forfeiture? The US govt also gave then the chance to come dispute but he never came cos he knew in the 90s racism was still an ish and he's black ass would have been incarcerated.
I also heard Kevin moss is coming to testify cheesy pray it's not true, cos that would be the final nail to the coffin. The judges will avoid a wrong judgement like plague.
Still the same thing - forfeiture!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by VicHots(f): 11:11pm On Apr 11, 2023
Allardyce:
They are admitting that he forfeited that huge sum.
Good, dem go hear am grin
He forfeited that amount,so why did they release the rest to him if it's a crime money?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by ariesbull: 11:15pm On Apr 11, 2023
Very shallow defense


Very shallow damage control


They should get a press release from a USA court...that's what they can do
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by idu1(m): 11:22pm On Apr 11, 2023
colorsofrainbow:


OBJ had no solid direct evidence as it is now. Was more like a rumour at that time.. Now,all the documents regarding the criminal drug case are intact dug out & in the public domain with witnesses in line. Don't try to compare this to obj cos u will be making huge mistakes on that basis.

This is how to know when children are talking. A president of Nigeria as at then doesn't have solid direct evidence against an individual? Because of all those bullscrap papers una dey download from internet?

Who do you think a president is?

How old were you when obj was president?

Do you know how he used efcc to harass so many Nigeria citizens then? Even if they are corrupt or not. It was inhuman.

Do you know how late prince audu abubakar was arrested and humiliated. You are small boy or you are an adult with small brain which is topical of an ibo man especially those from Abia state.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by mosaicafrique: 11:25pm On Apr 11, 2023
Asiwaju no be una mate, even those wey una de report am to, de fear to make mistake wey go spoil show for them tomorrow. Asiwaju is massive

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 11:25pm On Apr 11, 2023
abbey621:


Yea you don't have anything to say, too lazy to do research, too pompous to admit you need education.....No be juju be that?

P.S. Who told you I'm a lawyer? What part of I.T and financial services do you not understand? Speaking of grammatical errors, I'm sure your onset amnesia caused you to forget punctuation and spell check; who starts a conversation with 'but'? grin grin grin


But my 'conversation' with you didn't start with my last comment. My use of 'but' as opening word was for continuation from where I stopped earlier.

You rolled out law references that made you sound like a lawyer. And you now question why I believe that you are a lawyer.
Why then do you go into legal matters quoting references in defence of Tinubu if you are not a lawyer? Are you a busybody, or just another of Tinubu's urchinss in America doing the dirty deals for him in America?
My question: if you lived in the 1950s US, not to talk of the US of yesterday 1990s, and some people or person pumped huge sums of money into your bank account, and you didn't know the source of the money, would you accept the situation?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by 2016v2017: 11:46pm On Apr 11, 2023
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 11:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
onuman:



But my 'conversation' with you didn't start with my last comment. My use of 'but' as opening word was for continuation from where I stopped earlier.

You rolled out law references that made you sound like a lawyer. And you now question why I believe that you are a lawyer.
Why then do you go into legal matters quoting references in defence of Tinubu if you are not a lawyer? Are you a busybody, or just another of Tinubu's urchinss in America doing the dirty deals for him in America?
My question: if you lived in the 1950s US, not to talk of the US of yesterday 1990s, and some people or person pumped huge sums of money into your bank account, and you didn't know the source of the money, would you accept the situation?

I'm going to give you scenarios from my mentor when I just started in the financial industry:

You run a business to business(B2B) company in which you supply drinkable water to corporations/wealthy clients. You deal with hundreds or even thousands of clients each month, in the 90s which tools existed to make sure none of these clients were doing illegal shit for money?

Okay you do a criminal background check? Nothing comes up as these individuals are outstanding citizens. What else? Unknown to you, these wealthy clients with legitimate businesses are actually using the businesses to wash/launder their dirty money(drugs, trafficking etc). Mr. genius/magician, what tools could you have used to discover this and save yourself from complicity?

Scenario 2:

You are an investment banker, you help wealthy people manage/grow their funds, your clients invests average 100k to 1 million per year, in the 80s how do you verify income? Bank statement? Tax return? Nothing shows up as once again these are outstanding citizens grin grin

Unknown to you, these wealthy clients with legitimate businesses are actually using the businesses to wash/launder their dirty money(drugs, trafficking etc). Mr. genius/magician, what tools could you have used to discover this and save yourself from complicity?

Answer professor, since you are all knowing and omnipresent grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by cjwalter(m): 11:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
simongonner:
exactly. If TINUBU becomes president. Nigeria image will be stained further

It seems people did not see that, come on how can you open 10 account and in that 10 account some amount of cash was transferred to each of them, what they did was because they knew if that huge amount of money was sent to 1 or 3 account it will raise some red flag and the authorities will be notified,for God sake this is a planned deal and he is aware of the whole deal, he gets his share and push the money to the next person, for me while is a civil forfeiture is because he complied with the official maybe gave them some names (big fish) so the let him off the hook, since he is just the money man,he is not the main target even at that he committed a crime, maybe not convicted them just let him off with a warning. That's my take in all this

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by bekpo(m): 11:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
citygarden:
Finger Cross, tinubu will win this case. Is dead on arrival. Obi only want to try his luck. You can see the petition obi wrote to the court. He only want the Court to disqualify tinubu and court should order fresh election. He didn't claim he won the election as stated before he went to court. This case of drug have been tested in the courts doing obasanjo regime tinubu won upon being opposition to the government . Talk less of when is now awaiting gcfr.


The case is more or less a pre election matter which ordinarily ought 2 have come up 14 days after d presidential primaries. But 2 bring it now is too late in d day 2 even raise it at d presidential election petition. It's statutes barred.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by 2016v2017: 11:52pm On Apr 11, 2023
Tntsi:
You cannot defend indefensible.
Druggie is in for it. He must personally show up to discuss this matter that he has managed to suppress and repress since 1999.

PODATTI has finally brought it to the world stage. Druggie must show up to testify.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by MeaslesMumpsRub: 12:00am On Apr 12, 2023
Eyin ashiere omo ipob emi yin onibale.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by achiever12: 12:11am On Apr 12, 2023
Guestlander:
Obi is grasping at straws.

Shebi you said he should go to court?

He has gone to court now and all of you have been suffering from sleepless nights since then. grin

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