FxMasterz:


Ignorance is not bliss bro.

For many years, African gods were dreaded. They deceived people claiming to be powerful. When the missionaries wanted to build churches, African leaders collected money from them and gave them evil forests to build churches in, in hope that they would be stricken dead and never build any church. The missionaries cleared the evil forests, built churches and developed those dreaded places in the name of Jesus. That's when Africans began to realise that power pass power. Bowing down to stones and woods instead of worshipping the Almighty Creator of all things is absolutely illogical.

What is an evil.forest?

Can you translate that into Yoruba?

You are the Ignorant one here

There is no country. Called Africa

Hundreds of different people with different beliefs

I am.proud to be Yoruba and we know who we are

You. Need to research the origin of Yahweh and Jehovah and monotheism among the Hebrew rather than blindly follow what you have been brainwashed with
Almighty God
Are just two words that you can process either through your eyes if you can read or your ears so whether you bow down to a sound or words or stone it remains a concept you process through one of the Five senses you have

This is beyond your brain power so to you, bowing to the sound "God" is somehow less idolatrous that the same concept represented as

010011000000 or n a wooden carving but God if there is a God is neither a carving nor a word.It is an abstract that could be represented as a sound, a small a touch ,a written symbol of a taste. God can be represented a carving of any other. Communication Symbol just like the letters G...O...D

To grasp that your mind must be free from doctrine

rahmontech:


So going to church is scriptural??

Why not? Jesus did. The apostles did. Week commanded to do the same.

FxMasterz:


No, you're trying to defend your practices with cooked up stories.

If your father is truly an MFM pastor, you wouldn't even near C&S! Your father would cast out devils from people without burning coloured candles, carrying people to the riverside to wash, saying incantations or making sacrifices beside rivers at night.

Please, people are intelligent, they can actually see through your hypocrisy!

The guy you're siding with was using unfounded scriptural references to justify demonic practices contrary to what those scriptures are saying, and I explained those scriptures to him in all simplicity and honesty. He himself didn't object. You're coming to spew lies because you don't want to lose your means of livelihood?

Judgement will certainly come. Just wait for it.

For once, just for your own good, try to be open-minded and receptive.

There was nowhere in my first submission I backed that nigga or the doctrines of his church. I was even clear enough to admit that I have no in-depth knowledge of the workings of CCC, hence my refusal to either support or condemn. It is even not in my place to do so, as against what powers you have abrogated to yourself.

I simply put all your religions on the surface and related them to how they've affected the general well-being of our society. I even went ahead to put Eckankar above your two religions and others, when it comes to peaceful living and coexistence.

But because you have been so blinded by your faith, you have already resorted to attacking me and dragging my father into the issues of demon casting and deliverance..

My guy, you're insufferable. Do yourself some major good and unburden your mind. I'm not trying to convert you to another faith or religion. You seem like an intelligent person, so for once, try to roundly reason like one.

LeyeWrites:
You're very funny.

Isn't that what harvest is about? Go and read your Deut and Exo.

Everything comes to God's house alive and whole.

Worldly songs in church , how will u justify that to unbelievers

FxMasterz:


Why not? Jesus did. The apostles did. Week commanded to do the same.

No vex, where in the bible did Jesus go to church?

Gajagojo:


What is an evil.forest?

Can you translate that into Yoruba?

You are the Ignorant one here

There is no country. Called Africa

Hundreds of different people with different beliefs

I am.proud to be Yoruba and we know who we are

You. Need to research the origin of Yahweh and Jehovah and monotheism among the Hebrew rather than blindly follow what you have been brainwashed with
Almighty God
Are just two words that you can process either through your eyes if you can read or your ears so whether you bow down to a sound or words or stone it remains a concept you process through one of the Five senses you have

This is beyond your brain power so bowing to the sound God is somehow less idolatrous that the same concept represented or
010011000000 or n a wooden carving but God if there is a God is neither a carving not a word.It is an abstract that could be represented as a sound, a small a touch ,a written symbol of a taste.

To grasp that your mind must be free from doctrine

Would you refer me to the place where I said there a country called Africa?

Evil forest is Igbo Irunmole in Yoruba.
Where are all those Igbo Irúnmolè Today? Made extinct by the power of Christ.

I have a personal ongoing relationship with Yahweh. We commune and fellowship together. I walk in His power far above all witches and wizards or babalawo or man-made gods that you worship. We destroy their works in the lives of men everyday in the name of Jesus. We set their captives free and there's nothing, absolutely nothing they can do about it. They can only wail. Those whom we set free are free forever.

FxMasterz:


Would you refer me to the place where I said there a country called Africa?

Evil forest is Igbo Irunmole in Yoruba.
Where are all those Igbo Irúnmolè Today? Made extinct by the power of Christ.

I have a personal ongoing relationship with Yahweh. We commune and fellowship together. I walk in His power far above all witches and wizards or babalawo or man-made gods that you worship. We destroy their works in the lives of men everyday in the name of Jesus. We set their captives free and there's nothing, absolutely nothing they can do about it. They can only wail. Those whom we set free are free forever.

Nothing Evil. About Igbo Irunmole stop talking Nonsense

Igbo Ibi is evil forest and there is nothing like that in Yoruba traditions


Yahweh was just one of the several deities the Hebrews worshipped.They were not a monotheist people. You better research his history.

Clearly you are brainwashed

Buddha3:


No vex, where in the bible did Jesus go to church?

Luke 4:16-21:

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias.

FxMasterz:


Luke 4:16-21:

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias.

synagogue is church?


No it is not

Men cover their heads in synagogues

Uncovering head is European custom,like one wife and eating pork.
Many of you follow what you have never studied

Everything you know is what you heard like Muslims.




Jesus was not a Greek ,did not speak Greek neither did his disciples most of whom were illiterate
Yet the New Testament was written in Greek.

Have you ever asked why?

FxMasterz:


Luke 4:16-21:

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias.

No vex abeg, outside Nazareth where he grew, is there any other mention in the bible where Jesus walked into and partook of service in any other synagogue?

And after that one incident, was there mention of any other repeat occurrence?

There's a reason I'm asking these questions. Make you no vex come change am for me..

Gajagojo:
synagogueis church?


No it is not

Men cover their heads in synagogues

A church is a gathering of God's people - the saints. It could be in a temple, synagogue, chapel, house, or anywhere.

FxMasterz:


A church is a gathering of God's people - the saints. It could be in a temple, synagogue, chapel, house, or anywhere.

Who is not God's people?
Ogoni? or Ijaw
Lol

Fucking hell

We are in even more trouble than I thought

Buddha3:


No vex abeg, outside Nazareth where he grew, is there any other mention in the bible where Jesus walked into and partook of service in any other synagogue?

And after that one incident, was there mention of any other repeat occurrence?

There's a reason I'm asking these questions. Make you no vex come change am for me..

Yeah, He entered the temple in Jerusalem. There He flogged those merchants and said "God has said My house shall be called the house of prayer for all people...'

Buddha3:


No vex abeg, outside Nazareth where he grew, is there any other mention in the bible where Jesus walked into and partook of service in any other synagogue?

And after that one incident, was there mention of any other repeat occurrence?

There's a reason I'm asking these questions. Make you no vex come change am for me..

If there was no several occurrence before and after that incident, what does it mean when the scriptures said He went to church as His custom was?

FxMasterz:

Baba Adeboye didn't mention any church per say. He only warned against burning candles. David Ibiyhome didn't do well at all. He wasn't supposed to talk like that.

Yes, there are godly white garment churches but they're not well known.

Most of those white garment churches have demonic practices. Burning of candies is demonic. Coloured candles are used in occultism to conjure demons. Candles have no place in Christianity. They use brooms and bath in rivers like the Babalawos do. That's purely unscriptural. But ignorant people would keep defending what they know nothing about.

how can burning of candles be demonic? Have you not been to a catholic church before? And see candle on the altar. The use of candles by white garment church is to signify God has light over darkness which is believe to be evil. Candle was the basic source of light on the old days, which early Christians and Jess used to worship, Jesus Christ himself was a Jew he must have burned candles while he worship in the Synagogue.

Didijiji:
Why do Pentecostal churches speak ill of white garment churches?

I am forced to ask this question with the trending news today where Pastor David Ibiyeomie said he hates white garment churches and how they used “DEMONIC PSALMS” to make enchantments and make someone become a drunkard.

While it is important to respect senior pastors and their grace, it is equally important that the fathers of faith be made to realize they are human and not some form of God or Angel

The society we live in is plagued by many vices with influences across religion, tribe, race, denomination, sex , geolocation and all. Good and bad people exist in churches be it Catholic, Pentecostal, Anglican, white garment etc.

Singling out the white garment brethren always doesn’t speak well of you. It confirms there is a grudge because you were once a strong member. WHO MADE YOU THEIR GOD OR JUDGE?

Funny enough, you worshipped in a white garment church for several years. Your name then was Akanebo Ibiyeomie, Cherubim church in Port harcourt 115 Aggrey road. You remember Prophet Zekala the dada man, Prophet Chukwunda, Prophet Ajaero and other great prophets that mentored you. Your brother Derefoma Akanebo was also a prophet while you did more of the prayers.

More stories are on their way out so that you be guided how you insult a church on whose altar you prayed for years. Can your history be complete without the white garment church story?

Some orthodox and white garment churches were founded as far back as 1900 -1929. When did the Pentecostal churches start? Does it mean our fathers and grand fathers that worshipped in the old white garment and orthodox churches are seated in hell? Is God unjust?

The beauty of the end we all share is we all will stand before the judgement throne of God. And guess what? There won’t be any VIP queue or any of the altar and body guards.

There are good and bad pastors. There are good and bad prophets. There are good and bad bishops. Always treating the white garment churches as if nothing Godly and good exists in their churches is not Christ-like.

All the yahoo boys, hook up girls, abortionists all attend white garment churches right? You will be shocked they are more in the Pentecostal fold!

Most bank frauds that I know about have been perpetrated by even Pentecostal pastors, Ponzi yahoo schemes also, but you won’t hear because all the Pentecostal churches project to the world is the good side of their activities. I also know of a story of an RCCG father, mother and child that steal from the offering box every sunday till they were caught. An RCCG pastor told me this

What if white garment pastors start using these bad occurrences in the Pentecostal churches to preach on television?

All failed prophecies on this election were mostly by Pentecostal pastors
New year false prophecies are by them. The list is endless but no one talks.

It is pertinent to state that the founder of the RCCG, Pa Josiah Akindayomi worshipped in Cherubim for several years. So it is safe to say RCCG has white garment foundation. Some of the doctrines still continued. For eg, RCCG has mother in Israel like Cherubim.

Jesus Christ taught us love as stated in Eph 4:15.

The hate and stigma on white garment churches have become too much and MUST STOP forthwith.

Whilst there are bad white garment churches, there are good ones. Whilst there are bad Pentecostal churches, there are good ones.

Serve your God and let them be. Your doctrine is never superior and you are not their god

Stop using them to shine with your audience jeering you on—- RIDE ON PASTOR

You can’t hear other religions talk bad about their various sects but this always happens in Christianity

LET GOD BE THE JUDGE

If you have a sister or daughter, please advice her to leave white garment church if you truly love her and wish her to be married.



Nigerian men of all denominations and doctrine are usually scared of marrying a white garment church lady than they are scared of marrying an atheist lady.



The fastest way to remain single and unmarried for too long is to join white garment Church as a lady. Only white garment church men marry white garment church girls.


Guys even prefer to marry Muslim girls than white garment church girls.



The reason people are scared of white garment churches is because they mix ifa worship, wizardry, witchcraft, soothsaying with some part of Christianity (mostly singing, dancing and praises).

Buddha3:


No vex abeg, outside Nazareth where he grew, is there any other mention in the bible where Jesus walked into and partook of service in any other synagogue?

And after that one incident, was there mention of any other repeat occurrence?

There's a reason I'm asking these questions. Make you no vex come change am for me..

Partook of service?

What is service?

Who told you Jews do service

Jesus went into synagogues at least 10 times
According to the bible

Several times in Galilee

Gajagojo:


Nothing Evil. About Igbo Irunmole stop talking Nonsense

Igbo Ibi is evil forest and there is nothing like that in Yoruba traditions


Yahweh was just one of the several deities the Hebrews worshipped.They were not a monotheist people. You better research his history.

Clearly you are brainwashed

Lies. There were forbidden forests even in Yorubaland. Igbo irunmole waa forbidden, you can't enter there anyhow except you're an initiate. Stop telling lies.

The Hebrews were monotheists. Sometimes they deviated and served the gods of other nations. For that they were severally punished.

masseratti:
how can burning of candles be demonic? Have you not been to a catholic church before? And see candle on the altar. The use of candles by white garment church is to signify God has light over darkness which is believe to be evil. Candle was the basic source of light on the old days, which early Christians and Jess used to worship, Jesus Christ himself was a Jew he must have burned candles while he worship in the Synagogue.

They use candles to pray. Each colour has its own use. You don't understand. And who told you that Catholics who worship idols are true Christians?

FxMasterz:


Hahaha, who wants to leave where God is, merely because of closing time? Lol.

If God is truly there, they'll never leave.

Those people who left have spoken up. Even on this forum, there are various threads detailing the demonic practices going on in that church created by ex members.

You mean those people that also believe they are demonic Psalms?

FxMasterz:


If there was no several occurrence before and after that incident, what does it mean when the scriptures said He went to church as His custom was?

I'll put this out here just this once.

Jesus Christ didn't go to the synagogue in Nazareth cause he considered it a place of worship. A synagogue is not just meant for worship, it is an assembly ground for the elders and a study place for the word. And the bible made it abundantly clear that he started frequenting the synagogue and temples at age 12, for the purpose of study. That he returned to the same Synagogue upon his return to Nazareth, was just a continuation of customary habits from a tender age, and a reverence point to his home.

The Lord walked the face of the earth, spreading God's word everywhere he could find a gathering of people and not for once did he ever do that in a synagogue or church. If he had roundly endorsed the idea of situating a church, he had the means, resources and manpower to have set up more than one.

To be candid, the only religious sect that is currently replicating the lifestyle of Christ in terms of the gospel preaching and show of love, is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Their missionaries tour the earth, spreading the word and bearing goodwill and gifts.

It is unpalatable how you've relentlessly struggled to misconstrue the bible through the lengths of the various arguments you've had here.

FxMasterz:

They use candles to pray. Each colour has its own use. You don't understand. And who told you that Catholics who worship idols are true Christians?

i know of cele, and cele does not light color candle, only white, plus they don't drink alcohol. You funny calling catholics idol worshippers.. I rest my case with u.. Oga true Christian.

FxMasterz:


Lies. There were forbidden forests even in Yorubaland. Igbo irunmole waa forbidden, you can't enter there anyhow except you're an initiate. Stop telling lies.

The Hebrews were monotheists. Sometimes they deviated and served the gods of other nations. For that they were severally punished.

. Can you ener the Vatican anyhow? Does that make it evil? Can you enter a mosque anyhow

Restricted does not mean forbidden, forbidden does not mean evil

Even in the old testament there was something called Ark of God . People were killed by Yahweh when it was violated

There were initiates called Levites

Gajagojo:
synagogue is church?


No it is not

Men cover their heads in synagogues

Uncovering head is European custom,like one wife and eating pork.
Many of you follow what you have never studied

Everything you know is what you heard like Muslims.




Jesus was not a Greek ,did not speak Greek neither did his disciples most of whom were illiterate
Yet the New Testament was written in Greek.

Have you ever asked why?

Look, I'm a self developed Christian with a personal encounter with God. I'm well grounded in scriptures and never swayed by the lies of any man of God out there.

First, you don't even understand what a church is. You think a building is a church? Lol.

A church 'Ecklesia' is not a building but a collection of people who worship God. It could take place in any building. They may cover heads and they may not. They may dance and they may not. They may be Yorubas, Greeks, Igbos, Hausas or what have you? It changes nothing.

LeyeWrites:
E pain u.


Meanwhile, He attacked all white garment churches.

Don't mind all these hypocrites..

They attacked all the white garments but it's wrong to attacked all the pentecostal

FxMasterz:


Look, I'm a self developed Christian with a personal encounter with God. I'm well grounded in scriptures and never swayed by the lies of any man of God out there.

First, you don't even understand what a church is. You think a building is a church? Lol.

A church 'Ecklesia' is not a building but a collection of people who worship God. It could take place in any building. They may cover heads and they may not. They may dance and they may not. They may be Yorubas, Greeks, Igbos, Hausas or what have you? It changes nothing.

You are talking off point we are talking about Jesus and what happened when he was on earth

Is there a Hebrew word for church?

Why was the New Testament written in Greek?

Did Jesus or His disciples speak Greek?

Gajagojo:
. Can you ener the Vatican anyhow? Does that make it evil? Can you enter a mosque anyhow

Restricted does not mean forbidden, forbidden does not mean evil

Even in the old testament there was something called Ark of God . People were killed by Yahweh when it was violated

There were initiates called Levites

It was evil not because of how you enter but because the ifa priests, kings and chiefs said they are. People die mysteriously in those forests if the go in stubbornly. Those forests were dreaded. Stop telling lies. You know these things.

masseratti:
i know of cele, and cele does not light color candle, only white, plus they don't drink alcohol. You funny calling catholics idol worshippers.. I rest my case with u.. Oga true Christian.

That guy says Catholics are not true christians..

Same Catholic that is the womb of modern day christianity. Same Catholic that brought Christian religion to Africa and enslaved our ancestors with it. Without the Catholic Faith, that young man would have been fetching wood and arranging sacrificial items in his father's worship shrine at this very point.

Today he thinks he has the audacity to judge who serves God and who doesn't. People like this keep discouraging others from getting too involved with the church. But in his mind, he thinks he's doing a world of good for his faith.

masseratti:
i know of cele, and cele does not light color candle, only white, plus they don't drink alcohol. You funny calling catholics idol worshippers.. I rest my case with u.. Oga true Christian.

It's better you rest your case and make further research.

Catholics worship the Queen of Heaven as Mary do you know that? Just Google Queen of Heaven, you'll understand what I'm saying.

FxMasterz:


It was evil not because of how you enter but because the ifa priests, kings and chiefs said they are. People die mysteriously in those forests if the go in stubbornly. Those forests were dreaded. Stop telling lies. You know these things.

what evidence do you have that Ifa priest said they are evil? Or that kings and chiefs said so ?can you name one such location today?
Or a place that once was an evil forest?

Gajagojo:


Partook of service?

What is service?

Who told you Jews do service

Jesus went into synagogues at least 10 times
According to the bible

Several times in Galilee

I know Jews never had services..

I just phrased my comment that way to respond to that young man who claimed even Jesus went to church for worship.

It just amuses me how people wake up and feel they're more enlightened than others for one reason or the other..

Buddha3:


I'll put this out here just this once.

Jesus Christ didn't go to the synagogue in Nazareth cause he considered it a place of worship. A synagogue is not just meant for worship, it is an assembly ground for the elders and a study place for the word. And the bible made it abundantly clear that he started frequenting the synagogue and temples at age 12, for the purpose of study. That he returned to the same Synagogue upon his return to Nazareth, was just a continuation of customary habits from a tender age, and a reverence point to his home.

The Lord walked the face of the earth, spreading God's word everywhere he could find a gathering of people and not for once did he ever do that in a synagogue or church. If he had roundly endorsed the idea of situating a church, he had the means, resources and manpower to have set up more than one.

To be candid, the only religious sect that is currently replicating the lifestyle of Christ in terms of the gospel preaching and show of love, is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Their missionaries tour the earth, spreading the word and bearing goodwill and gifts.

It is unpalatable how you've relentlessly struggled to misconstrue the bible through the lengths of the various arguments you've had here.

Joseph Smith the founder of Latter Days Saint himself has such a filthy record that you can't count him worthy of followership.

Yọu don't even follow Jesus! You have your own occultic book called the book of Mormons with total neglect for the Bible. Are you guys even Christians?