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Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by uchebest20(m): 7:38am On Jun 30, 2023

Alcohol is medicinal, God created it – Fr Oluoma says as he quotes bible

Rev Fr Chinenye Oluoma, often known as Fada Oluoma, has stated that God designed alcohol for human usage and that it is medicinal.



He said this during a weekly church service, stressing that drinking alcoholic beverages is not immoral, but it must be done in moderation.

The Catholic priest quoted a Bible verse to buttress his point that it was approved by the Almighty.

Oluoma reminded the congregation that St. Paul told Timothy to drink wine because it will be helpful is tackling his ulcer.

He said everything that was created by God should be taken moderately to gain the benefits and alcohol is not an exception.




Fr Oluoma said; “Whether you like it or not Alcohol is medicinal, it’s God that created alcohol. St. Paul said to Timothy “Take it because it is medicinal”.




Why didn’t St. Paul tell Timothy ”Go and pray against your ulcer. Have faith in God he has promised us divine healing.”




“He said ‘take alcohol, take wine’. Everything God created, you know just like wine, if you take it as you should moderately, it will benefit you.




So those of you who like to take wine please drink it, but in moderate amount.”

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https://metastar.com.ng/alcohol-is-medicinal-god-created-it-fr-oluoma-says-as-he-quotes-bible/

Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by TemplarLandry: 7:44am On Jun 30, 2023
Only alcoholic wine made from fruits. But it has to be taken moderately.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by jaeyking(m): 8:29am On Jun 30, 2023
Normally everything has its side effects when taking to much

The issue is some have an addictive nature
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Emperormartin(m): 9:03am On Jun 30, 2023
Even if I hadn't heard this sermon I'll still be taking alcohol in a moderate way

There's no other joy than to sip alcoholic liquors moderately

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 11:00am On Jul 01, 2023
He speaks from ignorance.
It is certain he has not experienced the subtle dimensions of the human anatomy. God did not create alcohol for consumption. The Archons (Dark Spirits) were the ones who taught men how to extract alcohol from plants in order to use it for consumption so as to weaken their astral body.
Alcohol is bad.
If you are permitted the gift of psychic vision you will be shocked at what alcohol does to the astral body of man. It brings down the natural defences of the astral body and creates vapours around it which draws unclean entities and filthy energies to attach themselves and feed off the life forces of the person. It is the aural attachment that actually brings about the intoxication. The alcohol only opens the mind up for influx of alien influences coming from malevolent energy beings.
Leave alcohol alone. It is a chemical meant for industrial use. It was never intended for consumption.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Porksupplyib: 11:23am On Jul 01, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
He speaks from ignorance.
It is certain he has not experienced the subtle dimensions of the human anatomy. God did not create alcohol for consumption. The Archons (Dark Spirits) were the ones who taught men how to extract alcohol from plants in order to use it for consumption so as to weaken their astral body.
Alcohol is bad.
If you are permitted the gift of psychic vision you will be shocked at what alcohol does to the astral body of man. It brings down the natural defences of the astral body and creates vapours around it which draws unclean entities and filthy energies to attach themselves and feed off the life forces of the person. It is the aural attachment that actually brings about the intoxication. The alcohol only opens the mind up for influx of alien influences coming from malevolent energy beings.
Leave alcohol alone. It is a chemical meant for industrial use. It was never intended for consumption.

Funny as it may seem, it is you who speak with a lot of ignorance.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 2:08pm On Jul 01, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Funny as it may seem, it is you who speak with a lot of ignorance.


You haven't seen nothing.
Alcohol lowers your blood radiations.
And opens the aural shield for influx of low vibrations: vibrations coming from the inferior dimensions of the Mental Plane.
A man under the influence might think he is having a wonderful time. The reality is different. Nothing exalted can approach a man under the influence. A profound spiritual experience cannot happen to such a person.



The physical health implications are a different kettle of fish.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Porksupplyib: 2:33pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ugwuoke347:



You haven't seen nothing.
Alcohol lowers your blood radiations.
And opens the aural shield for influx of low vibrations: vibrations coming from the inferior dimensions of the Mental Plane.
A man under the influence might think he is having a wonderful time. The reality is different. Nothing exalted can approach a man under the influence. A profound spiritual experience cannot happen to such a person.




The physical health implications are a different kettle of fish.

Wonderful! Please drop your medical reference. Don't just go around cooking theories up and down.

Everything taken in excess has an adverse effect. Even water!
There are lots of medicinal uses of alcohol that dates back to even before you and I were born. Why did u think Paul recommended it ?

The only problem is excess intake and abuse.
Stop exaggerating what is not.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 3:03pm On Jul 01, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Wonderful! Please drop your medical reference. Don't just go around cooking theories up and down.

Everything taken in excess has an adverse effect. Even water!
There are lots of medicinal uses of alcohol that dates back to even before you and I were born. Why did u think Paul recommended it ?

The only problem is excess intake and abuse.
Stop exaggerating what is not.




You are speaking from what you read not what you have experienced.
A whole lot of things are not written in books.
Some truths are received through direct experience.
Don't take my words. Go to any true psychic and enquire.
Alcohol fouls the aura.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Porksupplyib: 5:53pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ugwuoke347:





You are speaking from what you read not what you have experienced.
A whole lot of things are not written in books.
Some truths are received through direct experience.
Don't take my words. Go to any true psychic and enquire.
Alcohol fouls the aura.

Wonderful! grin so in other words this is your own singular experience and you have no solid backup for the theories u are spilling other than your own words? We should go to a psychic and make enquiry? grin
Wonderful! cheesy and you say them with so much authority as if it is a FACT! You are a very funny person! grin
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jul 01, 2023
TemplarLandry:
Only alcoholic wine made from fruits. But it has to be taken moderately.
Rubbish! Is alcohol made from wire or sand? Abegi! undecided
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 6:30pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
He speaks from ignorance. It is certain he has not experienced the subtle dimensions of the human anatomy. God did not create alcohol for consumption. The Archons (Dark Spirits) were the ones who taught men how to extract alcohol from plants in order to use it for consumption so as to weaken their astral body. Alcohol is bad. If you are permitted the gift of psychic vision you will be shocked at what alcohol does to the astral body of man. It brings down the natural defences of the astral body and creates vapours around it which draws unclean entities and filthy energies to attach themselves and feed off the life forces of the person. It is the aural attachment that actually brings about the intoxication. The alcohol only opens the mind up for influx of alien influences coming from malevolent energy beings. Leave alcohol alone. It is a chemical meant for industrial use. It was never intended for consumption.
Religion ehn! undecided

Alcohol is great and made to be consumed by all who are able to handle their liquor abeg! grin
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 9:09pm On Jul 01, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Wonderful! grin so in other words this is your own singular experience and you have no solid backup for the theories u are spilling other than your own words? We should go to a psychic and make enquiry? grin
Wonderful! cheesy and you say them with so much authority as if it is a FACT! You are a very funny person! grin



You are the funny person here.
Alcohol is not good for your spiritual evolvement. Why not grasp this simple truth. Alcohol weakens your aura and opens it up for influx of inferior energies from the mental plane. This process can be seen very clearly from the clairvoyant perspective. Low energies and inferior thought forms stream towards the psychic airwaves of a man who spends himself in drinking.
I said you should not take my word for it. Go and ask any honest gifted psychic about this reality. A man who spends himself in drinking can only be approached by unclean spirits on the Mental Plane. Nothing exalted will ever incline to his thought fields.

It is not for nothing that all the great Teachers of Man admonished their followers to desist from alcohol;
in Islam, in Christianity, in Bahai Faith, etc.

You referred to St. Paul's letter to Timothy, and yet you cleverly
omitted to see quite very many verses in the same Bible warning against alcohol; verses such as these:

"Wine is a mocker, beer is a brawler,
And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise."
(Proverbs 20:1)

"Harlotry, wine and new wine take away the understanding."
(Hosea 4:11)

"Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine
And valiant men in mixing strong drink."
(Isaiah 5:22)

"Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink,
Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them!"
(Isaiah 5:11)

"Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
Who has contentions? Who has complaining?
Who has wounds without cause?
Who has redness of eyes?
Those who linger long over wine,
Those who go to taste mixed wine.
Do not look on the wine when it is red,
When it sparkles in the cup,
When it goes down smoothly;
At the last it bites like a serpent
And stings like a viper.
Your eyes will see strange things
And your mind will utter perverse things.
And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea,
Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast.
“They struck me, but I did not become ill;
They beat me, but I did not know it.
When shall I awake?
I will seek another drink.”
(Proverbs 23:29-35)

"Awake, drunkards, and weep;
And wail, all you wine drinkers,
On account of the sweet wine
That is cut off from your mouth."
(Joel 1:5)

"Now therefore, be careful not to drink wine or strong drink, nor eat any unclean thing."
(Judges 13:4)

"It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
It is not for kings to drink wine,
Or for rulers to desire strong drink,
For they will drink and forget what is decreed,
And pervert the rights of all the afflicted."
(Proverbs 31:4-5)

"Do not drink wine or strong drink, neither you nor your sons with you, when you come into the tent of meeting, so that you will not die—it is a perpetual statute throughout your generations."
(Leviticus 10:9)
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 9:33pm On Jul 01, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Religion ehn! undecided

Alcohol is great and made to be consumed by all who are able to handle their liquor abeg! grin


It is not religion.
It is the truth.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 9:41pm On Jul 01, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
■ It is not religion. It is the truth.
The Truth of God is Jesus Christ and below is what He instead said.
...
15 Peter said, “Explain to us what you said earlier to the people.”
16 Jesus said, “Do you still have trouble understanding?
17 Surely you know that all the food that enters the mouth goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body.
18 But the bad things people say with their mouth come from the way they think. And that’s what can make people wrong.
19 All these bad things begin in the mind: evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual sins, stealing, lying, and insulting people.
20 These are the things that make people wrong. Eating without washing their hands will never make people unacceptable to God.” - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20
And....
14 Jesus called the people to him again. He said, “Everyone should listen to me and understand what I am saying.
15 There is nothing people can put in their mouth that will make them wrong.[d] People are made wrong by what comes from inside them.”
16 [e]
17 Then Jesus left the people and went into the house. The followers asked Jesus about what he had told the people.
18 He said, “Do you still have trouble understanding? Surely you know that nothing that enters the mouth from the outside can make people unacceptable to God.
19 Food does not go into a person’s mind. It goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body.” (When Jesus said this, he meant there is no food that is wrong for people to eat.)
20 And Jesus said, “The things that make people wrong are the things that come from the inside.
21 All these bad things begin inside a person, in the mind: bad thoughts, sexual sins, stealing, murder,
22 adultery, greed, doing bad things to people, lying, doing things that are morally wrong, jealousy, insulting people, proud talking, and foolish living.
23 These evil things come from inside a person. And these are the things that make people unacceptable to God.” - Mark 7 vs 14 - 23
Jesus went as far as to state that His followers will even drink poison and it will not harm them
...
17 And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned.
18 If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.” - Mark 16 vs 17 - 18
Clearly, the Truth of God does not agree with your many attempts to lift verses out-of-context in order to assert a meaning different from that intended by the author of the works you lifted from. undecided
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 3:51am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
The Truth of God is Jesus Christ and below is what He instead said.
And....
Jesus went as far as to state that His followers will even drink poison and it will not harm themClearly, the Truth of God does not agree with your many attempts to lift verses out-of-context in order to assert a meaning different from that intended by the author of the works you lifted from. undecided




You are a very dishonest person. Intellectual dishonesty does not make you clever. It rather makes you dull.
If you cannot cite any place in the Scriptures where Christ Jesus approved drinking of alcohol as benefial to man, then you certainly should hold your peace.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 4:10am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
The Truth of God is Jesus Christ and below is what He instead said.
And....
Jesus went as far as to state that His followers will even drink poison and it will not harm themClearly, the Truth of God does not agree with your many attempts to lift verses out-of-context in order to assert a meaning different from that intended by the author of the works you lifted from. undecided



Can you state in clear terms how the verses I cited were presented out of context?
It is very clear you are out to try your hands in formenting duplicity and mendacity; a liar deflecting attention from his lies by accusing another of lying. How could you be so full of dubious tactics?
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 4:11am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
You are a very dishonest person. Intellectual dishonesty does not make you clever. It rather makes you dull.
If you cannot cite any place in the Scriptures where Christ Jesus approved drinking of alcohol as benefial to man, then you certainly should hold your peace.
Dishonest? So, even though Jesus Christ clearly informed you that nothing you ingest can make you sinful/unholy or unclean in the sight or presence of God, you rather require that He, Jesus Christ, come back down to explicitly state this time that drinking alcohol is acceptable to God before you take His word? Yikes! shocked
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 4:13am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
Can you state in clear terms how the verses I cited were presented out of context?
It is very clear you are out to try your hands in formenting duplicity and mendacity; a liar deflecting attention from his lies by accusing another of lying. How could you be so full of dubious tactics?
Nah! I will pass.... lipsrsealed
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 4:16am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Dishonest? So, even though Jesus Christ clearly informed you that nothing you ingest can make you sinful/unholy or unclean in the sight or presence of God, you rather require that He, Jesus Christ, come back down to explicitly state this time that drinking alcohol is acceptable to God before you take His word? Yikes! shocked


You are yet to provide even as little as a line in the Bible where Christ Jesus endorsed drinking of alcohol as useful to man in his spiritual evolution on earth.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 4:19am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Nah! I will pass.... lipsrsealed



Why do you want to pass?
Why not do the needful?
And why do you minimize the character of my posts in order to quote it?
And why insert a square dot where I did not place any?
So you took out your time to fetch a square dot and include it in my post, and then went ahead to minimize the character so as to render it faint as you quote it. What kind of person are you?
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 4:29am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
■ You are yet to provide even as little as a line in the Bible where Christ Jesus endorsed drinking of alcohol as useful to man in his spiritual evolution on earth.
...
Ugwuoke347:
Why do you want to pass?
Why not do the needful? And why do you minimize the character of my posts in order to quote it?
And why insert a square dote where I did not place any?
Recall my original retort?
Kobojunkie:
Religion ehn! undecided
Alcohol is great and made to be consumed by all who are able to handle their liquor abeg! grin
Some folks are unable to reason there way out beyond the bounds of religion is what. undecided
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 4:40am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
... Recall my original retort? Some folks are unable to reason there way out beyond the bounds of religion is what. undecided



Are you now going to quarrel with religion?
I never mentioned religion in the first place.
I spoke from a practicable reality that can be observed by anybody who can see into the subtle dimensions of matter.
Alcohol is a drug.
Drugs are vile and filthy things.
Alcohol fouls your aura and brings down its natural defenses. When the aura is not vibrant, unclean and low vibrational entities will be attracted to cling to it.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 4:47am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:
■Are you now going to quarrel with religion? I never mentioned religion in the first place. I spoke from a practicable reality that can be observed by anybody who can see into the subtle dimensions of matter. Alcohol is a drug. Drugs are vile and filthy things. Alcohol fouls your aura and brings down its natural defenses. When the aura is not vibrant, unclean and low vibrational entities will be attracted to cling to it.
Wetin' this one dey yarn! Food also serves as a drug so I am not certain where you are headed by attempting to paint alcohol, which is a product of the fermentation of foods, as being of a different caliber! undecided

Anyways, you already rejected Jesus Christ Himself and He said it is the religious folks, the hypocrites, who with their mouths claim to believe Him but their every actions and thoughts are far away from Him and His ways. The word Hypocrite is described by Jesus Christ as followers in His Law.
7 You are hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he spoke for God about you:
8 These people honor me with their words, but I am not really important to them.
9 Their worship of me is worthless. The things they teach are only human rules.’ - Matthew 15 vs 7 - 9
...
6 Jesus answered, “You are all hypocrites. Isaiah was right when he wrote these words from God about you:‘These people honor me with their words, but I am not really important to them.
7 Their worship of me is worthless. The things they teach are only human rules.’
8 You have stopped following God’s commands, preferring instead the man-made rules you got from others.”
9 Then he said, “You show great skill in avoiding the commands of God so that you can follow your own teachings! - Mark 7 vs 6 - 9
No point engaging you any further in this. undecided
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 4:58am On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Wetin' this one dey yarn! Food also serves as a drug so I am not certain where you are headed by attempting to paint alcohol, which is a product of the fermentation of foods, as being of a different caliber! undecided

Anyways, you already rejected Jesus Christ Himself and He said it is the religious folks, the hypocrites, who with their mouths claim to believe Him but their every actions and thoughts are far away from Him and His ways. The word Hypocrite is described by Jesus Christ as followers in His Law.
...
No point engaging you any further in this. undecided




You are yet to provide a single verse where Jesus Christ endorsed drinking of alcohol as useful for the spiritual development of man on earth.
I should not have replied you in the first place.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Kobojunkie: 5:02am On Jul 02, 2023
***Yawn****
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by obonujoker(m): 8:02am On Jul 02, 2023
Just so you know...

No amount of alcohol is safe.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Porksupplyib: 9:19am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:




You are the funny person here.
Alcohol is not good for your spiritual evolvement. Why not grasp this simple truth. Alcohol weakens your aura and opens it up for influx of inferior energies from the mental plane. This process can be seen very clearly from the clairvoyant perspective. Low energies and inferior thought forms stream towards the psychic airwaves of a man who spends himself in drinking.
I said you should not take my word for it. Go and ask any honest gifted psychic about this reality. A man who spends himself in drinking can only be approached by unclean spirits on the Mental Plane. Nothing exalted will ever incline to his thought fields.

It is not for nothing that all the great Teachers of Man admonished their followers to desist from alcohol;
in Islam, in Christianity, in Bahai Faith, etc.

You referred to St. Paul's letter to Timothy, and yet you cleverly
omitted to see quite very many verses in the same Bible warning against alcohol; verses such as these:

"Wine is a mocker, beer is a brawler,
And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise."
(Proverbs 20:1)

"Harlotry, wine and new wine take away the understanding."
(Hosea 4:11)

"Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine
And valiant men in mixing strong drink."
(Isaiah 5:22)

"Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink,
Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them!"
(Isaiah 5:11)

"Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
Who has contentions? Who has complaining?
Who has wounds without cause?
Who has redness of eyes?
Those who linger long over wine,
Those who go to taste mixed wine.
Do not look on the wine when it is red,
When it sparkles in the cup,
When it goes down smoothly;
At the last it bites like a serpent
And stings like a viper.
Your eyes will see strange things
And your mind will utter perverse things.
And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea,
Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast.
“They struck me, but I did not become ill;
They beat me, but I did not know it.
When shall I awake?
I will seek another drink.”
(Proverbs 23:29-35)

"Awake, drunkards, and weep;
And wail, all you wine drinkers,
On account of the sweet wine
That is cut off from your mouth."
(Joel 1:5)

"Now therefore, be careful not to drink wine or strong drink, nor eat any unclean thing."
(Judges 13:4)

"It is not for kings, O Lemuel,
It is not for kings to drink wine,
Or for rulers to desire strong drink,
For they will drink and forget what is decreed,
And pervert the rights of all the afflicted."
(Proverbs 31:4-5)

"Do not drink wine or strong drink, neither you nor your sons with you, when you come into the tent of meeting, so that you will not die—it is a perpetual statute throughout your generations."
(Leviticus 10:9)

Lol. I did not cleverly omit anything. It is you who is misinterpreting and quoting old testament scriptures( which was addressing those who were consecrated and under the law) to buttress your point. grin
Sorry bro. We are not under the law neither are we Levites.

We are talking of the medicinal properties of the wine and alchohol. If Paul could recommend it to Timothy , then that is clear enough.

Feel free to chose your path.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 9:40am On Jul 02, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Lol. I did not cleverly omit anything. It is you who is misinterpreting and quoting old testament scriptures( which was addressing those who were consecrated and under the law) to buttress your point. grin
Sorry bro. We are not under the law neither are we Levites.

We are talking of the medicinal properties of the wine and alchohol. If Paul could recommend it to Timothy , then that is clear enough.

Feel free to chose your path.




The verses are clear enough.
We are still under the Laws of Life! The Laws of Creation. Do not be deceived.
Paul referred to the Jewish traditions as the law, their own law.
Christ referred to the Laws of Creation as the Law which He came to fulfill. They are the Laws of Life, and are united in the Law of Love, which gives life, support and furtherance to everything, everyone and everywhere which upholds only the forces of life which preserve, protect and ennoble life by rejecting the forces of decay and destruction! The Laws of Creation are immutable and unchangeable.
Heaven and earth will have to pass away and yet they remain unchanged, because the whole of Creation came into being through the them.
They are written into Creation Itself as its operating system, even in the heart of man. The spirit of every man flashes his intuitive perception with a deep inner sensing of what is right and what is wrong. Man is always inwardly guided until he numbs his deep inner feeling with all kinds of intellectual obfuscation originating from his willful inclination to perversions and corruptions of the material world which draw him on and on to the path of spiritual rebellion against the Laws of Life, against the high standard of relentless purity and sobriety set for him by the Creator.
A rebellious soul seeks justifications for the decay of reason in his soul. He seeks justifications to give himself the false reality of unfettered freedom so as to riotously pursue all his abominable and untamed appetites, and all the incitements of spiritual decay. He even goes as far as searching the Scriptures so as to give himself the staunch support to go the whole hog in ventilating his follies and fancies with out let and hinderances.
He says he is not under the law but under some concept of grace; a manmade philosophy distorted and twisted out of reason in order to give spiritual rebels a ground to commit themselves fully to loose and wayward living. Libertines, epicureans, erotomaniacs, and degraded humans subdued by the powers of the lower self are the end products of the concept of grace! The beast of sinful passions is the god venerated in the secret chambers of their soul.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Porksupplyib: 9:46am On Jul 02, 2023
Ugwuoke347:





The verses are clear enough.
You are under the Laws of Life! The Laws of Creation. You have been deceived.
Paul referred to the Jewish traditions as the Law.
Christ referred to the Laws of Creation as the Law of Love, the Laws of Life.
They are immutable and unchangeable.
Heaven and earth will have to pass away and yet they remain unchanged, because the whole of Creation came into being through the Divine Laws.
They are written into Creation Itself as it's operating system, even in the heart of man.
The spirit of every man flashes his intuitive perception with a deep inner sensing of what is right and what is wrong. Man is always inwardly guided until he numbs his deep inner feeling with all kinds of intellectual obfuscation originating from his willful inclination to perversions and corruptions of the material world which draws on and on to the path of spiritual rebellion against the Laws of Life, against the high standard of relentless purity and sobriety set for him by the Creator.
A rebellious soul seeks justifications for his decay reason in his soul. He seeks justifications for unfettered freedom so as to riotously pursue all his abominable and untamed appetites. He even goes as far as searching the Scriptures so as to give himself a staunch support to go the whole hog in ventilating his follies and fancies with out let and hinderances.
He says he is under the law but under some concept of grace, a man made doctrine distorted and twisted out of reason in order to give spiritual rebels a ground to commit themselves to a loose and wayward lifestyles. Libertines, epicureans, erotomaniacs, a degraded human beings subdued by the lower self; the beast of sinful passions in man, are the end product of the concept of grace!

Law of life? grin wonderful!
Ok daddy life. Stick to your law of life grin
Enjoy it. wink
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 10:11am On Jul 02, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Lol. I did not cleverly omit anything. It is you who is misinterpreting and quoting old testament scriptures( which was addressing those who were consecrated and under the law) to buttress your point. grin
Sorry bro. We are not under the law neither are we Levites.

We are talking of the medicinal properties of the wine and alchohol. If Paul could recommend it to Timothy , then that is clear enough.

Feel free to chose your path.



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The verses are clear enough.
We are still under the Laws of Life! The Laws of Creation. Do not be deceived.
Paul referred to the Jewish traditions as the law, their own law.
Christ referred to the Laws of Creation as the Law which He came to fulfill. They are the Laws of Life, and are united in the Law of Love, which gives life, support and furtherance to everything, everyone and everywhere which upholds only the forces of life which preserve, protect and ennoble life by rejecting the forces of decay and destruction! The Laws of Creation are immutable and unchangeable.
Heaven and earth will have to pass away and yet they remain unchanged, because the whole of Creation came into being through the them.
They are written into Creation Itself as its operating system, even in the heart of man. The spirit of every man flashes his intuitive perception with a deep inner sensing of what is right and what is wrong. Man is always inwardly guided until he numbs his deep inner feeling with all kinds of intellectual obfuscation originating from his willful inclination to perversions and corruptions of the material world which draws him on and on to the path of spiritual rebellion against the Laws of Life, against the high standards of relentless purity and sobriety set for him by the Creator.
A rebellious soul seeks justifications for the decay of reason in his soul. He seeks justifications to give himself the false reality of unfettered freedom so as to riotously pursue all his abominable and untamed appetites, and all the incitements of spiritual decay. He even goes as far as searching the Scriptures so as to give himself the staunch support to go the whole hog in ventilating his follies and fancies with out let and hinderances.
He says he is not under the law but under some concept of grace; a manmade philosophy distorted and twisted out of reason in order to give spiritual rebels a ground to commit themselves to loose and wayward lifestyles. Libertines, epicureans, erotomaniacs, and degraded humans subdued by the powers of the lower self are the end products of the concept of grace! The beast of sinful passions is the god venerated in the secret chambers of their soul.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal, God Created It – Fr Oluoma Says As He Quotes Bible by Ugwuoke347(m): 10:18am On Jul 02, 2023
Porksupplyib:


Law of life? grin wonderful!
Ok daddy life. Stick to your law of life grin
Enjoy it. wink


Grab some wisdom Mr Man.
Don't make mockery of correction.
Your life is a precious gem. It should be kept pure and radiant for your own good, and to the Glory of your Creator.
Take a thought, if you will.

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