Lukuluku69:


You are looking at the answer to your posers yet you are denying it.

You see that Nation that Islam united ended Persia, from thence henceforth, the Persian had no single Chosros, Lost all their Vassals, they were concerted wholesale. As a matter of fact, the Persians were looking forward to it. For you to know, do you remember the Three Wise men? They were looking for a Reformer who would upturn their Fire Temples and reform their corrupt Zoroastrian Faith. For their is a prophecy to that effect in their own faith(Don't take my words for it, arm yourself and research the Zoroastrian Faith).

kicked Greece out of The Holy Lands, lost their Capital and rename it from Constantinople to Istanbul (City of Islam)

As for Rome, it time is coming.....

you want to talk true history? I give it to you!!
the fact of the matter is that there was no islam when the kingdom of medo persia was dominating as world power. so how can arab muslims be the fulfiment of daniels prophecy?

your argument is not consistent with the times. islam came 600 after christianity. this a fact.
the histprycal recorda are there for you to see.

there is no prophecy concerning islam in the bible.

EMILO2STAY:
you want to talk true history? I give it to you!!
the fact of the matter is that there was no islam when the kingdom of medo persia was dominating as world power. so how can arab muslims be the fulfiment of daniels prophecy?

your argument is not consistent with the times. islam came 600 after christianity. this a fact.
the histprycal recorda are there for you to see.

there is no prophecy concerning islam in the bible.

Do you know what Prophecies are?

Do Prophecies Fulfilment confined to just a Day? Months or years or over time in a series of events.

Leave off your bias for Islam for once and see things in another perspectives.

The Arabs Muslims are the ONLY Nation that took on the Persians, Greeks and Romans almost simultaneously.

Can you imagine a Nation of Goat herders, beggars and Traders on Camels taking on the Persians, Greeks and Romans who have been around for Centuries warring and conquering them, make them fly?

It is akin to Grenada taking on America, UK and France and came out intact?

And where did you see me say Islam was around when Persia was at her peak? What I am telling you is that Arab Muslims took them on and they were vanquished.

They lost their Kingdom, lost their Faith, lost their Culture.

Read the verse below slowly and paint a mental picture in your head.


Daniel 2:44 (KJV) And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Lukuluku69:


Do you know what Prophecies are?

Do Prophecies Fulfilment confined to just a Day? Months or years or over time in a series of events.

Leave off your bias for Islam for once and see things in another perspectives.

The Arabs Muslims are the ONLY Nation that took on the Persians, Greeks and Romans almost simultaneously.

Can you imagine a Nation of Goat herders, beggars and Traders on Camels taking on the Persians, Greeks and Romans who have been around for Centuries warring and conquering them, make them fly?

It is akin to Grenada taking on America, UK and France and came out intact?

And where did you see me say Islam was around when Persia was at her peak? What I am telling you is that Arab Muslims took them on and they were vanquished.

They lost their Kingdom, lost their Faith, lost their Culture.

Read the verse below slowly and paint a mental picture in your head.


Daniel 2:44 (KJV) And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

you are not making sense. there was no nation called arab muslims in 334 bc when the kingdom of persia lost power. the arabs united under mohammeds islamic faith which he got from catholic priests anyway 600 yrs after the christian faith and over 1300 years after the persian kingdom fell from power .the fact that they lost their culture or even faith does not mean that they lost power to islam. world power was already with rome at that time and they could not conquer most places without the permission of the pope. yes! the muslim conquistadors needed a papal bull to invade a place and without that they could not do nothing. this goes to show they do not even have power of their own.

alexander vanquished the persians from world domination and declared himself king of persia and greece.and ruled over the provinces of the fallen persian empire that is what the book of daniel was talking about.

daniel 2:44 is referring to the ten kingdom that broke out of the fourth kingdom which is rome. these kingdoms are present now . and the fourth kingdom is the last kingdom on the earth before christ himself sets up a kingdom by his own hands ,not by the hands of muslims.

it is ridiculous to see you trying to prove islamic teachings with the bible you do not believe. and also trying to force the application of a prophecy from the bible to islam when it is clear to even the blind that its not.

EMILO2STAY:
you are not making sense. there was no nation called arab muslims in 334 bc when the kingdom of persia lost power. the arabs united under mohammeds islamic faith which he got from catholic priests anyway 600 yrs after the christian faith and over 1300 years after the persian kingdom fell from power .the fact that they lost their culture or even faith does not mean that they lost power to islam. world power was already with rome at that time and they could not conquer most places without the permission of the pope. yes! the muslim conquistadors needed a papal bull to invade a place and without that they could not do nothing. this goes to show they do not even have power of their own.

alexander vanquished the persians from world domination and declared himself king of persia and greece.and ruled over the provinces of the fallen persian empire that is what the book of daniel was talking about.

daniel 2:44 is referring to the ten kingdom that broke out of the fourth kingdom which is rome. these kingdoms are present now . and the fourth kingdom is the last kingdom on the earth before christ himself sets up a kingdom by his own hands ,not by the hands of muslims.

it is ridiculous to see you trying to prove islamic teachings with the bible you do not believe. and also trying to force the application of a prophecy from the bible to islam when it is clear to even the blind that its not.

If I am not making any sense with my submission backed by verifiable facts corroborated by history then you sir is bereft of any!

If your claimed that it was Alexander that ended Persia when in fact Persia was still fighting Rome till around 500 AD, that means the Kingdom that God will set up was the Macedonian/Grecian One but the issue with that thinking and position is that The God of the Bible actually accepted the Grecian Poseidon, Apollo, Dionysus and Zeus as rival Gods because these are the names of God the Mecedonian/Greeks marched. They never marched in the name of Yahweh or Jehovah or any other you guys came up with. The Greeks believed in Zeus not Jehovah.

I was even mistaken that I was in a Convo with a grounded someone. The Muslims need a Papal Bull to do what? Is that what you have been fed with from infancy? Lol

So, the Greek worshippers of Zeus and Apollo is the Kingdom that Jehovah uses end Persia? No wonder though, he once used the Zoroastrian Persians to end the Baal worshipping Babylon. Lol


Your take on Daniel 2:44 explains it all anyway. No wonder you lots have been groping endlessly while trying to make any meanings with the content of your Books. Keep waiting.......

Isaiah 59:9-10 (KJV) Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.

NB.

Below is a link to the Wars between Persia and Rome almost 700 Years after their encounter with Alexander of Macedon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman%E2%80%93Persian_Wars

Lukuluku69:



If I am not making any sense with my submission backed by verifiable facts corroborated by history then you sir is bereft of any!

If your claimed that it was Alexander that ended Persia when in fact Persia was still fighting Rome till around 500 AD, that means the Kingdom that God will set up was the Macedonian/Grecian One but the issue with that thinking and position is that The God of the Bible actually accepted the Grecian Poseidon, Apollo, Dionysus and Zeus as rival Gods because these are the names of God the Mecedonian/Greeks marched. They never marched in the name of Yahweh or Jehovah or any other you guys came up with. The Greeks believed in Zeus not Jehovah.

I was even mistaken that I was in a Convo with a grounded someone. The Muslims need a Papal Bull to do what? Is that what you have been fed with from infancy? Lol

So, the Greek worshippers of Zeus and Apollo is the Kingdom that Jehovah uses end Persia? No wonder though, he once used the Zoroastrian Persians to end the Baal worshipping Babylon. Lol


Your take on Daniel 2:44 explains it all anyway. No wonder you lots have been groping endlessly while trying to make any meanings with the content of your Books. Keep waiting.......

Isaiah 59:9-10 (KJV) Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.

NB.

Below is a link to the Wars between Persia and Rome almost 700 Years after their encounter with Alexander of Macedon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman%E2%80%93Persian_Wars

when the persians conqured babylon, where there no babylonians? or babylonian religeon? same thing happened when greece under alexander conqured persian and took over their seat of power which is in babylon.

the romans conquered judea and ruled over them appointing procurators to oversee their provinces. the same thing happend when alexander conqured greece.

no historical in record has it that arab muslims conquered and took power from the persian it is greece. this is a link from the history website itself.

https://www.history.com/news/alexander-the-great-defeat-persian-empire

yes! the muslims actually needed a papal bull to invade and conqure cities. that is how they where able to conqure some europian nations like turkey and some north african countries. mohammeds wife khadija was a roman catholic before she converted to islam. and it was a catholic priest who told mohammed that he was to be a great prophet to his people.

again I repeat daniel 2:44 is refering to the ten kingdoms which is represented by the ten toes of the great image of daniels vision. there is nothing that suggest it is a amn made kingdom or a more ridiculous arab muslim nation.

I cringe at the fact and boldness you use to associate biblical prophecy which has nothing to do with islam, yet stubbornly and ignorantly use to defend a muslim ridiculouse view of your jihad forceful conversion.

the rest of your statements makes no sense even your link says nothing about persia and rome.

EMILO2STAY:
when the persians conqured babylon, where there no babylonians? or babylonian religeon? same thing happened when greece under alexander conqured persian and took over their seat of power which is in babylon.

the romans conquered judea and ruled over them appointing procurators to oversee their provinces. the same thing happend when alexander conqured greece.

no historical in record has it that arab muslims conquered and took power from the persian it is greece. this is a link from the history website itself.

https://www.history.com/news/alexander-the-great-defeat-persian-empire

yes! the muslims actually needed a papal bull to invade and conqure cities. that is how they where able to conqure some europian nations like turkey and some north african countries. mohammeds wife khadija was a roman catholic before she converted to islam. and it was a catholic priest who told mohammed that he was to be a great prophet to his people.

again I repeat daniel 2:44 is refering to the ten kingdoms which is represented by the ten toes of the great image of daniels vision. there is nothing that suggest it is a amn made kingdom or a more ridiculous arab muslim nation.

I cringe at the fact and boldness you use to associate biblical prophecy which has nothing to do with islam, yet stubbornly and ignorantly use to defend a muslim ridiculouse view of your jihad forceful conversion.

the rest of your statements makes no sense even your link says nothing about persia and rome.

Oga Latter Day Scholar be calming down. Did I ever write that the Arabs took over Greeks Lands from the Persians?

And for your info, the Persians never moved Capital. They conquer you, they appoint a Satraps.

If only you will leave off your ridiculousness and open your mind and brains, the Arabs took on the Persians, Greeks and Romans simultaneously and on their own Turf.

Imagine Haiti fighting The USA, UK and Russia at the same time! Is that not a thing of wonderment?

And saying the Arabs Muslims need any Papal approval to shows the level of your Education of world History.

Sir, cringe at your bigotry, half education and open groping while in the full glare of daylight.

Whatever you make of Daniel 2/7 is your business. It doesn't remove anything from its true interpretations which Daniel himself gave.

So, keep waiting ooo. It has been almost 2,500+ since that Prophecy but according to you it has not find fulfilment but you agree that Persia took out Babylon while Daniel was still alive which was one of the Four Kingdoms in the Prophecy.

So, wait on .......

Add this to the numerous Prophecies you are waiting for ...

Lukuluku69:




Oga Latter Day Scholar be calming down. Did I ever write that the Arabs took over Greeks Lands from the Persians?

And for your info, the Persians never moved Capital. They conquer you, they appoint a Satraps.

If only you will leave off your ridiculousness and open your mind and brains, the Arabs took on the Persians, Greeks and Romans simultaneously and on their own Turf.

Imagine Haiti fighting The USA, UK and Russia at the same time! Is that not a thing of wonderment?

And saying the Arabs Muslims need any Papal approval to shows the level of your Education of world History.

Sir, cringe at your bigotry, half education and open groping while in the full glare of daylight.

Whatever you make of Daniel 2/7 is your business. It doesn't remove anything from its true interpretations which Daniel himself gave.

So, keep waiting ooo. It has been almost 2,500+ since that Prophecy but according to you it has not find fulfilment but you agree that Persia took out Babylon while Daniel was still alive which was one of the Four Kingdoms in the Prophecy.

So, wait on .......

Add this to the numerous Prophecies you are waiting for ...

are you seriously trying to use the bible prophecy for a muslim fulfilment? like seriously what is wrong you muslims? you have your Qur'an a book that you kill if a person mess with it yet you erroneously cling to the bible prophecy to claim it applies to muslim arabs common !! be reasonable!! no wonder you people behave the way you behave.


the persian capital and seat of power was in babylonia and alexander the great took over their seat of power when he defeated darius 3 in the battle of gaugamela in 334' the historical records are there for any to see including you.

https://www.history.com/news/alexander-the-great-defeat-persian-empire

when the arabs invaded greece, greece was fallen from world power. when the arab muslims invaded constantinople rome was fallen from world power. rome fell in 476 ad, as at that time when rome fell there was no islam. the emperor of rome left power to the pope. this was when the popes contolled most of the european nations that was once part of roman empire. so mr arab muslims did not conquer rome nor greece nor persian that was in power before all these kingdoms.


I will educate you a little in world history and islam; the vatican wanted jerusalem as a holy site, so he wanted to have it without directly engaging in the battle for jerusalem.
these qas when they saw an untapped man power in the arabs. so they deviced a plan to form a new religion for the arabs to unit them under one umbrella. that religeion was islam. so they used "waraqa" a cousine of mohammeds wife to tell him he would be a prophet of god. waraqa and mohammeds wife were christian roman catholics. a fact you can verify now now!'

when the religion of islam grew over the years , with catholic priests pulling the strings. the muslim arabs were sent to invade many nations who where not subject to the pope these nations included north africa, because the donatist in north africa denied and reject the sovrienity of the pope and also they where sent to invades jerusalem and capture it for the pope. because of this when ever the arab muslims qant ot invade a particular nation, they take permission from the pope who issues them a papal bull granting them permission. when they succeeded, they refused to hand over the holy land to the pope, even calling the pope an infidel. the pope heard pf tgis and realised that they have created a monster who have turned agaisnt them and these is the reason for the crusades between the catholic knight templers and the arab muslims in jersulam. at the end an agreement was struck to allow muslims dwell in the captured areas of the land and also allow the vatican occupy the other side captured by the crusaders.

now you know a little of you religion


daniel 2;7 talks about an image. and the imterpretation of it is in the bible. but the fact of the matter is that you and your muslim religion have no business with it. face your Qur'an and find to interpret the prophecies in there, and leave the bible which you claim is corrupt and tainted alone. it is appalling to find you trying to use biblical prophecy for a muslims interpretation and fulfilment. ridiculous!!!

EMILO2STAY:
are you seriously trying to use the bible prophecy for a muslim fulfilment? like seriously what is wrong you muslims? you have your Qur'an a book that you kill if a person mess with it yet you erroneously cling to the bible prophecy to claim it applies to muslim arabs common !! be reasonable!! no wonder you people behave the way you behave.


the persian capital and seat of power was in babylonia and alexander the great took over their seat of power when he defeated darius 3 in the battle of gaugamela in 334' the historical records are there for any to see including you.

https://www.history.com/news/alexander-the-great-defeat-persian-empire

when the arabs invaded greece, greece was fallen from world power. when the arab muslims invaded constantinople rome was fallen from world power. rome fell in 476 ad, as at that time when rome fell there was no islam. the emperor of rome left power to the pope. this was when the popes contolled most of the european nations that was once part of roman empire. so mr arab muslims did not conquer rome nor greece nor persian that was in power before all these kingdoms.


I will educate you a little in world history and islam; the vatican wanted jerusalem as a holy site, so he wanted to have it without directly engaging in the battle for jerusalem.
these qas when they saw an untapped man power in the arabs. so they deviced a plan to form a new religion for the arabs to unit them under one umbrella. that religeion was islam. so they used "waraqa" a cousine of mohammeds wife to tell him he would be a prophet of god. waraqa and mohammeds wife were christian roman catholics. a fact you can verify now now!'

when the religion of islam grew over the years , with catholic priests pulling the strings. the muslim arabs were sent to invade many nations who where not subject to the pope these nations included north africa, because the donatist in north africa denied and reject the sovrienity of the pope and also they where sent to invades jerusalem and capture it for the pope. because of this when ever the arab muslims qant ot invade a particular nation, they take permission from the pope who issues them a papal bull granting them permission. when they succeeded, they refused to hand over the holy land to the pope, even calling the pope an infidel. the pope heard pf tgis and realised that they have created a monster who have turned agaisnt them and these is the reason for the crusades between the catholic knight templers and the arab muslims in jersulam. at the end an agreement was struck to allow muslims dwell in the captured areas of the land and also allow the vatican occupy the other side captured by the crusaders.

now you know a little of you religion


daniel 2;7 talks about an image. and the imterpretation of it is in the bible. but the fact of the matter is that you and your muslim religion have no business with it. face your Qur'an and find to interpret the prophecies in there, and leave the bible which you claim is corrupt and tainted alone. it is appalling to find you trying to use biblical prophecy for a muslims interpretation and fulfilment. ridiculous!!!

Obviously you struggle with sound reasoning and sound knowledge of events so I won't bother myself with the heavy stuff no more.

Your Third Paragraph, what you are saying is that the other Three Kingdoms foretold by Daniel has fallen before the rise of the the Arabs Muslims, so please tell us that Kingdom of God that should claim this credit.

To bring it home, we all know Persia ended Babylon, and according to you, if Alexander ended Persia, and Rome already fell when the Arabs took Constantinople, so which Kingdom of God should claim this credit? Remember we are are talking about the Prophecy of Daniel in Chapter 2/7.

On your offer of "Education" please keep them, it is no use. And calm down when you type, it brings out your thoughts and points better. As for World History, you got nothing to teach apart from the elementary stuff

Between this Thread is about Prophecy in the Bible about the rise of Islam, I tell you there are dozens of them but only the Wise see them not opinionated dotards as you. Why do you think more Europeans and South Americans are embracing Islam in Numbers?

Funny thing is the same way you have been showing your Jesus to the Jews and meet rejections is the same way the Christians have been rejecting the Last of the Prophets.

Ironic I would say.

Lukuluku69:





Obviously you struggle with sound reasoning and sound knowledge of events so I won't bother myself with the heavy stuff no more.

Your Third Paragraph, what you are saying is that the other Three Kingdoms foretold by Daniel has fallen before the rise of the the Arabs Muslims, so please tell us that Kingdom of God that should claim this credit.

To bring it home, we all know Persia ended Babylon, and according to you, if Alexander ended Persia, and Rome already fell when the Arabs took Constantinople, so which Kingdom of God should claim this credit? Remember we are are talking about the Prophecy of Daniel in Chapter 2/7.

On your offer of "Education" please keep them, it is no use. And calm down when you type, it brings out your thoughts and points better. As for World History, you got nothing to teach apart from the elementary stuff

Between this Thread is about Prophecy in the Bible about the rise of Islam, I tell you there are dozens of them but only the Wise see them not opinionated dotards as you. Why do you think more Europeans and South Americans are embracing Islam in Numbers?

Funny thing is the same way you have been showing your Jesus to the Jews and meet rejections is the same way the Christians have been rejecting the Last of the Prophets.

Ironic I would say.

look who is talking of sound reasoning and sound knowledge. a man who uses biblical prophecy he does not believe , but think the same book written to christians apply to his muslim faith when history logic and common sense does not support his bogus but even shamefull and ridiculous postulation.

before I could even argue with you on the book of daniel, are you a christian? do you believe in the bible? a man who does not read nor study the bible because it is not the holy book of his faith is seriously arguing with me what he knows nothing about.
is this the kind of thing they teach in mosques?

you know nothing about the book of daniel. and I have given you links to confirm what I said but you are typing things that do not make sense.

daniel gave a prophecy about kingdoms to succeed the other starting from babylon and ended in rome. these visions are represented by the image in the first vision and beasts in the second.

the first vison talks about the head of gold which is babylon, the second medo persia and the third greece. the fouth kingdom which is rome crumbled into ten kingdom represented by the ten toes of the image. daniel 2:41. this is supported by history.
the beasts which daniel saw in daniel 7 speaks of the same event. the fourth beast represent rome because we know that rome conqured greece and rose to world domination after that. history has it in record.

currently rome has divided into ten kingdoms these kingdoms are in Europe currently.

daniel 2:44 and daniel 7:13-14 speaks of a holy one from heaven who will set up an everlasting kingdom. this holy one is jesu christ not mohammed or allah.

you sound ridiculous trying to fit a biblical prophecy for the Christians into your muslim faith. you should be ashamed.

islam is a vatican creation sorry you have to come to christ to be a part of his kingdom. not the ones you will get with jihad wars.

EMILO2STAY:
you are not making sense. there was no nation called arab muslims in 334 bc when the kingdom of persia lost power. the arabs united under mohammeds islamic faith which he got from catholic priests anyway 600 yrs after the christian faith and over 1300 years after the persian kingdom fell from power .the fact that they lost their culture or even faith does not mean that they lost power to islam. world power was already with rome at that time and they could not conquer most places without the permission of the pope. yes! the muslim conquistadors needed a papal bull to invade a place and without that they could not do nothing. this goes to show they do not even have power of their own.

alexander vanquished the persians from world domination and declared himself king of persia and greece.and ruled over the provinces of the fallen persian empire that is what the book of daniel was talking about.

daniel 2:44 is referring to the ten kingdom that broke out of the fourth kingdom which is rome. these kingdoms are present now . and the fourth kingdom is the last kingdom on the earth before christ himself sets up a kingdom by his own hands ,not by the hands of muslims.

it is ridiculous to see you trying to prove islamic teachings with the bible you do not believe. and also trying to force the application of a prophecy from the bible to islam when it is clear to even the blind that its not.

I'm short your Jesus was never aware that 25% of world population will be Muslims, he wasjt aware that the world fastest growing religion will be Islam. He wasn't aware that the rise of islam will see the end of roman, Persian and byzantine empire. Jesus want aware that Muslims will rule through 3 continents for over 700 good years. So, what prophesy was he aware of ? Perhaps, he was only aware of christian God. Better open your eyes.

EMILO2STAY:
look who is talking of sound reasoning and sound knowledge. a man who uses biblical prophecy he does not believe , but think the same book written to christians apply to his muslim faith when history logic and common sense does not support his bogus but even shamefull and ridiculous postulation.

before I could even argue with you on the book of daniel, are you a christian? do you believe in the bible? a man who does not read nor study the bible because it is not the holy book of his faith is seriously arguing with me what he knows nothing about.
is this the kind of thing they teach in mosques?

you know nothing about the book of daniel. and I have given you links to confirm what I said but you are typing things that do not make sense.

daniel gave a prophecy about kingdoms to succeed the other starting from babylon and ended in rome. these visions are represented by the image in the first vision and beasts in the second.

the first vison talks about the head of gold which is babylon, the second medo persia and the third greece. the fouth kingdom which is rome crumbled into ten kingdom represented by the ten toes of the image. daniel 2:41. this is supported by history.
the beasts which daniel saw in daniel 7 speaks of the same event. the fourth beast represent rome because we know that rome conqured greece and rose to world domination after that. history has it in record.

currently rome has divided into ten kingdoms these kingdoms are in Europe currently.

daniel 2:44 and daniel 7:13-14 speaks of a holy one from heaven who will set up an everlasting kingdom. this holy one is jesu christ not mohammed or allah.

you sound ridiculous trying to fit a biblical prophecy for the Christians into your muslim faith. you should be ashamed.

islam is a vatican creation sorry you have to come to christ to be a part of his kingdom. not the ones you will get with jihad wars.

Was Jesus aware there will be some set of people called Muslims ?

Lukuluku69:


I am not one of the Lost Tribe. I am a Yoruba person. So, I can't be.

If you care to know about the Lost 10 Tribes of Israel, I can give you clues to their whereabouts from the Bible but you will have issues recognizing them.

The Remnants actually talked about the Lost Tribes. "Lost" because no one knows seems to know what happened to the when they were all deported from the Northern Kingdom of Israel when they go whoring with the Assyrians.

Well, if you care to know, go and read about Afghanistan and Kashmir History. Get books and read their own history by their own hands. Then you will know that the Remnants of Israel have adopted Islam and have jettisoned the vile tag of being refered to as Reprobates and are now Muslims.

And I know Israelites Prophecies so well to know that they have never been anywhere forever. They have only been there now since 1947/48. In relatives terms, that can't be forever. It is just a matter of time.

A time will come when the War Planes, Armour Tanks and Nuclear Weapons won't decide Wars but Soldiers on Horse backs, with bows and arrows, lances and swords. Then and only then you will know!

Yes, pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan are Israelites

Lukuluku69:


Lol

Do yourself a favour and read. This time from every Account.

Mostly Europeans? You got jokes

I.do not want to insult you, but I will so you'll learn. Go and read about the pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan.. and read about their origin. Pashtuns are still living oo. Not dead. Ask them and they'll tell you they're Israelites. Why are you people like this. Too ignorant to learn..

Christianity is very easy to mumulise. Just close your eyes to learn.

STRI1:


Was Jesus aware there will be some set of people called Muslims ?

jesus is the ceeator of the world a God who knows the future. his kingdom willnput an end to this present world system and he will establish his own kingdom where he will be the ruler as prophesied by daniel.

so what is the essence of your question.

STRI1:


I.do not want to insult you, but I will so you'll learn. Go and read about the pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan.. and read about their origin. Pashtuns are still living oo. Not dead. Ask them and they'll tell you they're Israelites. Why are you people like this. Too ignorant to learn..

Christianity is very easy to mumulise. Just close your eyes to learn.

Go and ahead and have a shot!

As for your take on this I think you will have to redirect this post to your brethren who think and say that the Lost Tribes of Israel are today's European.

So, the Pashtuns of Pakistan and Afghanistan are Israelites? How many of your brethrens are aware of this fact? Can you tell us the Faith they profess now?

STRI1:


Yes, pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan are Israelites

Good that you know.

Can you then tell us the Faith they profess now?

STRI1:


I'm short your Jesus was never aware that 25% of world population will be Muslims, he wasjt aware that the world fastest growing religion will be Islam. He wasn't aware that the rise of islam will see the end of roman, Persian and byzantine empire. Jesus want aware that Muslims will rule through 3 continents for over 700 good years. So, what prophesy was he aware of ? Perhaps, he was only aware of christian God. Better open your eyes.

lol, islam did not see the end of the persian or roman empire. historical records jas it that persian empire fell to alexander the great in 334bc and the roman empire fell under its own wieght of corruption in 476ad. this is factual history so you are saying nonsense.

the muslims who ruled some parts of europe (spain and portugal) and africa where allowed so by the vatican and when it was time to kick them out the same vatican through the inquisition kicked them out of europe back into africa where they came from. the few whp stayed converted tp christianity.

so my friend islam did not conquer rome. rome fell and disintergrated into ten european nations and islamic forces conquered two out of ten of those nations.
you dont know your own history.

EMILO2STAY:
look who is talking of sound reasoning and sound knowledge. a man who uses biblical prophecy he does not believe , but think the same book written to christians apply to his muslim faith when history logic and common sense does not support his bogus but even shamefull and ridiculous postulation.

before I could even argue with you on the book of daniel, are you a christian? do you believe in the bible? a man who does not read nor study the bible because it is not the holy book of his faith is seriously arguing with me what he knows nothing about.
is this the kind of thing they teach in mosques?

you know nothing about the book of daniel. and I have given you links to confirm what I said but you are typing things that do not make sense.

daniel gave a prophecy about kingdoms to succeed the other starting from babylon and ended in rome. these visions are represented by the image in the first vision and beasts in the second.

the first vison talks about the head of gold which is babylon, the second medo persia and the third greece. the fouth kingdom which is rome crumbled into ten kingdom represented by the ten toes of the image. daniel 2:41. this is supported by history.
the beasts which daniel saw in daniel 7 speaks of the same event. the fourth beast represent rome because we know that rome conqured greece and rose to world domination after that. history has it in record.

currently rome has divided into ten kingdoms these kingdoms are in Europe currently.

daniel 2:44 and daniel 7:13-14 speaks of a holy one from heaven who will set up an everlasting kingdom. this holy one is jesu christ not mohammed or allah.

you sound ridiculous trying to fit a biblical prophecy for the Christians into your muslim faith. you should be ashamed.

islam is a vatican creation sorry you have to come to christ to be a part of his kingdom. not the ones you will get with jihad wars.

You are not smart at all and giving you the heavy stuff is messing with your head but what that I say to someone who think and believe that The Book of Daniel was written by CHRISTIANS.

Farewell.

Lukuluku69:


You are not smart at all and giving you the heavy stuff is messing with your head but what that I say to someone who think and believe that The Book of Daniel was written by CHRISTIANS.

Farewell.

the book of daniel is a jewish book and apllies to christians. jesus christ who is a jewish man founded christianity which is an offshoot of judaism.

tell me is daniel the prophet a muslim? what a fool.

talking about beeing smart you are very far from it I pray you get some sense first before smaartness.

EMILO2STAY:
the book of daniel is a jewish book and apllies to christians. jesus christ who is a jewish man founded christianity which is an offshoot of judaism.

tell me is daniel the prophet a muslim? what a fool.

talking about beeing smart you are very far from it I pray you get some sense first before smaartness.

You are obviously not a smart fellow. Look at the way you type, your spellings. It shows half education.

So, the Book of Daniel is suddenly a Jewish Book meant for Christians when I showed you your folly.

Why not go to the Jews and get the interpretations from them?

Queenttoast01:
Having known and seen the truma and pain caused by the Islamic Religion through hacking & burning their fellow human being(s) to death as response to defend their Prophet Mohammed, would you still continue to be a member or join them where the following are not guaranteed;

a) Peace is not guaranteed
b) You must kill your fellow humans to defend your prophet
c) Eternal life is not guaranteed- even your Prophet said he doesn't know where he is going afterlife.

Think about this and give your life to Jesus Christ today where your peace and eternal life is guaranteed!

even Jesus Dey look you with side eyes because this is so illogical.

How? Are you an idol worshipper also?

princeabdul:
even Jesus Dey look you with side eyes because this is so illogical.

Lukuluku69:


You are obviously not a smart fellow. Look at the way you type, your spellings. It shows half education.

So, the Book of Daniel is suddenly a Jewish Book meant for Christians when I showed you your folly.

Why not go to the Jews and get the interpretations from them?

my postulations are fact backed by history. you obviously cannot refute what I said . you dont know your own history, you talk out of sense. I only engaged you to show you your folly.

and what is wrong with the way I type? the messages are clear and cold hard fact.
I aske you a question , is daniel a muslim?

EMILO2STAY:
my postulations are fact backed by history. you obviously cannot refute what I said . you dont know your own history, you talk out of sense. I only engaged you to show you your folly.

and what is wrong with the way I type? the messages are clear and cold hard fact.
I aske you a question , is daniel a muslim?

Is Daniel a Christian?

Lukuluku69:


Is Daniel a Christian?

yes he is!, daniel worships the christian God so do the Christians. the christian new testament alludes to the book of daniel for reference and says let him who reads understand.

is daniel a muslim? does the Qur'an have daniel prophecies in it?

Jesus is Lord and can fight any blasphemy by himself not the Mecca idol; Allah whom his followers kill their fellow human to defend.

Those who do not believe in Jesus are already condemned -John 3:18

EMILO2STAY:
yes he is!, daniel worships the christian God so do the Christians. the christian new testament alludes to the book of daniel for reference and says let him who reads understand.

is daniel a muslim? does the Qur'an have daniel prophecies in it?

You are a Dunce. Grade A.

Daniel was a Jew. How can he worship the Christian Triune Gods of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Do Jews worship Three Gods in One and One in Three?

Yes, Prophet Muhammad confirmed the Prophecy of Daniel when he foretold tyhe Triumph of Muslims over Persia, Byzantine and Roman Empires.

Lukuluku69:


You are a Dunce. Grade A.

Daniel was a Jew. How can he worship the Christian Triune Gods of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Do Jews worship Three Gods in One and One in Three?

Yes, Prophet Muhammad confirmed the Prophecy of Daniel when he foretold tyhe Triumph of Muslims over Persia, Byzantine and Roman Empires.

you are the fool. the same Yahweh of the old testament is same as the one in the new testament. in the old testament yahweh ,his son and spirit where all mentioned, if you can prove to me they weren't then try and lets see who is talking about hat they know. you have no business with the christian bible as a muslim.

mohammed cannot confirm a prophecy of daniel because he has no business with fulfilling that prophecy. plus mohammed did not conquer rome or anywhere because those nation where not existing world powers at the time of islamic jihad wars.

go learn history you are talking out of sense as most of you muslims do.

EMILO2STAY:
you are the fool. the same Yahweh of the old testament is same as the one in the new testament. in the old testament yahweh ,his son and spirit where all mentioned, if you can prove to me they weren't then try and lets see who is talking about hat they know. you have no business with the christian bible as a muslim.

mohammed cannot confirm a prophecy of daniel because he has no business with fulfilling that prophecy. plus mohammed did not conquer rome or anywhere because those nation where not existing world powers at the time of islamic jihad wars.

go learn history you are talking out of sense as most of you muslims do.

Retardinho, the Old Testament God is ONE and not THREE.

So, I can read Daniel praying to that ONE GOD and not any coalition of any son and no spooky Ghost

Like I said, reasoning is far from you, if those Persia, Greece and Rome were not existing by 560 AD, which Kingdom of God ended them as foretold by Daniel in chapter 2/7?

Lukuluku69:


Retardinho, the Old Testament God is ONE and not THREE.

So, I can read Daniel praying to that ONE GOD and not any coalition of any son and no spooky Ghost

Like I said, reasoning is far from you, if those Persia, Greece and Rome were not existing by 560 AD, which Kingdom of God ended them as foretold by Daniel in chapter 2/7?

I am not your class nor in your pitiable level. psalms 110:1 The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet ." The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion; you will rule in the midst of your enemies.

judges14:6 The Spirit of the LORD came powerfully upon him so that he tore the lion apart withhis bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told neither his father nor his mother what he had done.

from the above here we can see two lords and the spirit. these three where confirmed in the new testament by christ himself below.

jesus christ himself confirms this in mathew 22:43,44-45.He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,“’The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."’ If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?”

note that from the above passage christ mentioned the spirit of God as an inspiration for david. so you can see that from the old to new testament scriptures the son ,the spirit and the father where all present.

you are the one not reasoning. the bible never said the kingdom of God will end persia and rome and greece . the bible said persia will end the babylon empire and greece will end persia empire and world dominion and then the fourth kingdom rome will end the grecian dominion after which it will be divided into ten kingdoms. and in the days of these ten kingdoms which we are now shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which will not be overthrown. and the this kingdom will not be left to men to rule over.

the below scripture confirms the fourth kingdom dived before God himself sets up hos own.

And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron,
forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves
with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not
mixed with clay.d with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which
shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it
shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


Daniel 2:41-44 King James Version


what is so hard to understand!!!. I know why ,because you are a retarded muslim arguing the bible you do not believe.

MaxInDHouse:

The only evidence of Islam in the Bible could be linked to Jesus' parable of the sower where an enemy (Satan) came to sow weeds in the farm when men were sleeping! Matthew 13:24-25

Jesus is the sower who showed fine seeds in the field {Matthew 13:37} the field is the world and the enemy is Satan {Matthew 13:38} after Jesus' ascension to heaven Satan made sure that all the apostles were killed {Revelations 12:17} so that none of them will be alive to say a word against the weeds (false religions initiated by Satan) that's why Jesus said "when men were sleeping" because the apostles (men) were all sleeping in death by the time Satan's agents began establishing false religions claiming Christians.
Islam came much later but ironically this one also claim it has a connection with Christ Jesus yet everything Jesus taught about how to make peace or pursue peace was ruled out in Islam as Muhammad was desperately protecting his own life even at the expense of those following him.

So don't think Satan's weeds are pagan traditions NO rather they're different religions claiming Abrahamic faith and saying they have a connection with Jesus, the illustration says it's Jesus' farm so there are many religions belonging to Satan that's claiming they're connected to Jesus. Any religion that's not saying they're connected to Jesus aren't part of those Jesus is referring to in that illustration after all they're not inside Jesus' farm: having anything to do with the story of Jesus!

Anyway, that is not what I was asking.

MaxInDHouse:


You're WRONG!

Each group hold their allegiance to the prophet of their choice they only use Jesus as cover up!
To Deeperlife Kumuyi is their prophet, to Redeem Adeboye is their prophet, to Cele Oshoffa is their prophet, to Winners Oyedepo is their prophet, to Christ Embassy Oyakilome is their prophet, to Chosen Mouka is their prophet, to CAC Babalola is their prophet.

I can go on and on as each of these different religions hold their allegiance to the prophet of their choice so when you quote Jesus they will quote their preferred prophet to counter what Jesus commanded yet they will still tell you they're for Jesus, that's exactly what those claiming Muslims are doing as well.

Ask any Muslim if they don't believe in Jesus as sent by God if they will say "NO" but the prophet they subscribe to is Muhammad just like all others do!

JW, T. C. Russell is their prophet.