The darkness was on the face of what?, if he is to separate darkness from light,, on which basis will he do that?
Is it not Within The deep covered with darkness ?

Darkness was upon the face of what?

FxMasterz:


I think that's your own interpretation.

God does not do anything without His Spirit. God's Spirit and God's Word are the two instruments of His creativity. There's nothing to support the saying that God created the earth and skies from water.

Spirit means BREATHE/WIND.
Your omnipotent god can’t do something without his spirit, did he create the spirit, or they both existed the same time?

Start reading from 1:6, your god “made” everything from the deep water, he didn’t create anything.
Also genesis 1:1 was talking about SKIES and GROUND.

FxMasterz:


The Bible never said so, but it is implied and confirmed by our knowledge of the spirit realm.

Where in the “scripture” did it say that “Spirits can't die bro. Spirits are immortal.“


First have knowledge on what “spirit” means

FxMasterz:

Have you been dead to know that Adam does not exist in the spirit form? There's no contradiction here.

According to God's word Adam is dead {Genesis 3:19} and all his descendants have inherited death through him {Romans 5:12} so anyone saying something survived man at death is promoting what Satan told Eve "you will not die completely" Genesis 3:4 Adam and Eve died completely and nothing survived them except their children who inherited sin and death through them! Romans 3:23

FxMasterz:

All who died from Adam are translated. Or do you mean all the prophets like Moses, Elijah, etc are all completely dead? Did Jesus not speak with Moses and Elijah on the mountain of transfiguration? Did the parable of the rich man not see Abraham and Lazarus in heaven?

Guy no one lives in any form after death that's what makes resurrection a reality [John 5:28-29 compare to Act 24:15] if they're not completely dead their resurrection will make no sense after all they're alive somewhere!

FxMasterz:

The pre-adamic man was neither promised heaven or hell. Infact, up till the New testament was given, neither heaven nor hell were promised. The only punishment for wicked people was physical punishment. Jesus had to descend into Hades when He died for 3 days to preach to the dead souls that were in prison.
1Peter 3:19
"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;"

They are formerly faithful and obedient angels that descended to mate with female humans before the flood {2Peter 2:4} they were restricted from having anything further to do in heaven after their disobedience so they have nowhere to go other than planet earth.
God only created the heaven and the intelligent beings He made there are angels {Job 38:7} He also created the earth and the intelligent beings He made here are humans {Psalms 115:16} there are no other intelligent beings elsewhere!

FxMasterz:

Spirits can't die bro. Spirits are immortal.

My Bible told me that "IN THE BEGINNING..." God created Adam and Eve....I think that's all I need to know about the first human beings God created.

MaxInDHouse:

According to God's word Adam is dead {Genesis 3:19} and all his descendants have inherited death through him {Romans 5:12} so anyone saying something survived man at death is promoting what Satan told Eve "you will not die completely" Genesis 3:4 Adam and Eve died completely and nothing survived them except their children who inherited sin and death through them! Romans 3:23


Guy no one lives in any form after death that's what makes resurrection a reality [John 5:28-29 compare to Act 24:15] if they're not completely dead their resurrection will make no sense after all they're alive somewhere!


They are formerly faithful and obedient angels that descended to mate with female humans before the flood {2Peter 2:4} they were restricted from having anything further to do in heaven after their disobedience so they have nowhere to go other than planet earth.
God only created the heaven and the intelligent beings He made there are angels {Job 38:7} He also created the earth and the intelligent beings He made here are humans {Psalms 115:16} there are no other intelligent beings elsewhere!

Totally wrong and practically unbiblical.

You should have said that the references I made of Moses, Elljah, etc are not in the Bible.

Where in the OP did the post say there are other intelligence beings inhabiting our world. The OP was talking about a world before a world for crying out loud.

LordIsaac:

My Bible told me that "IN THE BEGINNING..." God created Adam and Eve....I think that's all I need to know about the first human beings God created.

That assertion is wrong. Scientific discoveries have found out that this is not true.

FxMasterz:


That assertion is wrong. Scientific discoveries have found out that this is not true.

The Bible supercedes all past and future scientific discoveries!

FxMasterz:

Totally wrong and practically unbiblical.
You should have said that the references I made of Moses, Elljah, etc are not in the Bible.
Where in the OP did the post say there are other intelligence beings inhabiting our world. The OP was talking about a world before a world for crying out loud.

The highlighted is the reason why i told you the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

The opening words of the Bible said:
"IN THE BEGINNING"
So where did you and your friend (OP) find the world BEFORE THE BEGINNING?

Maynmann:
The darkness was on the face of what?, if he is to separate darkness from light,, on which basis will he do that?
Is it not Within The deep covered with darkness ?

Darkness was upon the face of what?



Spirit means BREATHE/WIND.
Your omnipotent god can’t do something without his spirit, did he create the spirit, or they both existed the same time?

Start reading from 1:6, your god “made” everything from the deep water, he didn’t create anything.
Also genesis 1:1 was talking about SKIES and GROUND.

I don't need to argue with you. All what you're saying are based on your personal opinion which are theologically incorrect.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is the reason why i told you the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

The opening words of the Bible said:
"IN THE BEGINNING"
So where did you and your friend (OP) find the world BEFORE THE BEGINNING?

The OP is right and not condemning the Bible.

There was a beginning when God created heaven and Earth. He didn't create the earth to be chaotic. The earth eventually because chaotic. Then He moved in verse do to cotrect the chaos. Please go and read the OP again and this time, do it more slowly. You're jumping into hasty conclusions without even comprehending what he wrote.

FxMasterz:


I don't need to argue with you. All what you're saying are based on your personal opinion which are theologically incorrect.

You don’t understand the jewish books you are reading, but you using your doctrine interpretation.

First learn what “theos” means, before you talk on “theological”, just saying words you lack meaning on.

FxMasterz:


I don't need to argue with you. All what you're saying are based on your personal opinion which are theologically incorrect.

First go and learn what those underlined words mean then come back.

Remember you are reading Jewish books that is talking about their israelite god, yahweh.

Maynmann:

You don’t understand the jewish books you are reading, but you using your doctrine interpretation.

First learn what “theos” means, before you talk on “theological”, just saying words you lack meaning on.

You can't understand the Bible the same way I do. You're not a Christian, are you? I Iive in and breathe the Bible. You don't.

FxMasterz:


You can't understand the Bible the same way I do. You're not a Christian, are you? Iive in and breathe the Bible. You don't.

You don’t understand the books you are gobbling on.
Bible means books, and your Old Testament belongs to JUDAISM, they call it tanankh.

What do you even think “christian” mean?
What do you think “bible” means?
The “theo” in theological what do you think it means?
Just regurgitating what they told you, nothing new.

Those books are JEWISH BOOKS.

Maynmann:

First go and learn what those underlined words mean then come back.

Remember you are reading Jewish books that is talking about their israelite god, yahweh.

Everything I have said so far about skies and ground as related to Genesis 1 are not contradictory to the underlined. I refuse to be drawn into unevesary argument.

First, you came talking about ground not planets. I told you we're talking the same thing. After confirming that, you want to start arguing about something else. I'm actually not interested in arguments.

Maynmann:

You don’t understand the books you are gobbling on.
Bible means books, and your Old Testament belongs to JUDAISM, they call it tanankh.

What do you even think “christian” mean?
What do you think “bible” means?
The “theo” in theological what do you think it means?
Just regurgitating what they told you, nothing new.

Those books are JEWISH BOOKS.

You've not told me anything I don't already know. I'm not disputing what you've just said. So, let's lay the matter to rest.

FxMasterz:


Everything I have said so far about skies and ground as related to Genesis 1 are not contradictory to the underlined. I refuse to be drawn into unevesary argument.

First, you came talking about ground not planets. I told you we're talking the same thing. After confirming that, you want to start arguing about something else. I'm actually not interested in arguments.

Whatever you said is your own, the facts in the Jewish books are there.

And i was on my own when you quoted me, are you okay?
And i was talking to the Op, who made a mistake of calling the earth in genesis 1:1 a planet where demons lived.
Then you LIED that spirits cant die and are immortal, show me a verse that says so you haven’t.

FxMasterz:


You've not told me anything I don't already know. I'm not disputing what you've just said. So, let's lay the matter to rest.

You clearly don’t know anything. The Jewish creation story is an ALLEGORY.
Go and read the underlined and come back.

FxMasterz:


The OP is right and not condemning the Bible.

There was a beginning when God created heaven and Earth. He didn't create the earth to be chaotic. The earth eventually because chaotic. Then He moved in verse do to cotrect the chaos. Please go and read the OP again and this time, do it more slowly. You're jumping into hasty conclusions without even comprehending what he wrote.

Guy no intelligent creature live on this planet before Adam and Eve there is no pre-Adamic race so the OP is wrong!

MaxInDHouse:


Guy no intelligent creature live on this planet before Adam and Eve there is no pre-Adamic race so the OP is wrong!

But the Bible says so. Read the Jeremiah and Peter reference again in the OP. Science also says so. At least discoveries have been made. Your opinion does not matter.

Maynmann:

Whatever you said is your own, the facts in the Jewish books are there.

And i was on my own when you quoted me, are you okay?
And i was talking to the Op, who made a mistake of calling the earth in genesis 1:1 a planet where demons lived.
Then you LIED that spirits cant die and are immortal, show me a verse that says so you haven’t.

I only told you the OP didn't call the earth a planet.

I can see through your mind. All you want to do is prove that the Bible and science do not agree even when the OP has proved beyond reasonable doubt they do.

I'm not going to argue with you.

You said Christians insult you before you insult them when I once accused you of being immature in argument. Have I now insulted you for you to start telling me "are you okay?"

Please go and rest. I don't have anything to discuss with you. I'm not interested.

Maynmann:

You clearly don’t know anything. The Jewish creation story is an ALLEGORY.
Go and read the underlined and come back.

I have nothing to discuss with you.

FxMasterz:

But the Bible says so. Read the Jeremiah and Peter reference again in the OP. Science also says so. At least discoveries have been made. Your opinion does not matter.

Mention the name of a person in pre-Adamic race!

So instead of bringing the Bible into your heresy just say you're confused over what others say, there was no pre-Adamic race that's why the first name mentioned in the beginning is Adam and Eve!

FxMasterz:

I only told you the OP didn't call the earth a planet.

I can see through your mind. All you want to do is prove that the Bible and science do not agree even when the OP has proved beyond reasonable doubt they do.

I'm not going to argue with you.

You said Christians insult you before you insult them when I once accused you of being immature in argument. Have I now insulted you for you to start telling me "are you okay?"

Please go and rest. I don't have anything to discuss with you. I'm not interested.

Yes he did, he said 2 separate events and there was no such thing.

I can also see through my mind, i am not my mind.
The Old Testament you are gobbling up was taken from babylonian and Mesopotamia mythology.

You are so desperate, “are you okay” is now an insult? You are the one immature here.
I was on my own and you quoted me, and you started saying jargons that you are not interested in arguments; who send you in the first place?

Please go and go basking in your jewish books, you are a nobody, who is interested in you?!,
remember you quoted me first.


Keep gobbling up jewish books

MaxInDHouse:


Mention the name of a person in pre-Adamic race!

So instead of bringing the Bible into your heresy just say you're confused over what others say, there was no pre-Adamic race that's why the first name mentioned in the beginning is Adam and Eve!

Go and read the Jeremiah and Peter references first and come back.

God's attention is particularly on the Adamic race. The pre-adamic race only received slight mentions in the Bible. Don't ask me for names. No one talked about names. We're just given an hint that makes us know where demons came from.

FxMasterz:


I have nothing to discuss with you.

Then next time use your sense and not jump on a conversation you were not invited in.

Spirit means breathe, in the jewish books you are gobbling, demons are called shedim, and are not evil.
Indoctrinated christian!

Keep gobbling up jewish books.

Maynmann:

Yes he did, he said 2 separate events and there was no such thing.

I can also see through my mind, i am not my mind.
The Old Testament you are gobbling up was taken from babylonian and Mesopotamia mythology.

You are so desperate, “are you okay” is now an insult? You are the one immature here.
I was on my own and you quoted me, and you started saying jargons that you are not interested in arguments; who send you in the first place?

Please go and go basking in your jewish books, you are a nobody, who is interested in you?!,
remember you quoted me first.


Keep gobbling up jewish books

Bye. Thanks.

Maynmann:

Then next time use your sense and not jump on a conversation you were not invited in.

Spirit means breathe, in the jewish books you are gobbling, demons are called shedim, and are not evil.
Indoctrinated christian!

Another insult again.

Bye. God bless you.

FxMasterz:


Bye. Thanks.

You are welcome.

FxMasterz:


Another insult again.

Bye. God bless you.

Even primary school kids are more mature. Next time use your sense before jumping into a conversation.

Bye. Maynmann bless you and your jewish god, yahweh.

FxMasterz:


Go and read the Jeremiah and Peter references first and come back.

God's attention is particularly on the Adamic race. The pre-adamic race only received slight mentions in the Bible. Don't ask me for names. No one talked about names. We're just given an hint that makes us know where demons came from.

Guy i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the whole Bible contains 66 books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. There is nowhere a pre-Adamic race was ever mentioned or cited in the entire Bible.
Jesus never mentioned something like that so get it that the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:


Guy i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the whole Bible contains 66 books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. There is nowhere a pre-Adamic race was ever mentioned or cited in the entire Bible.
Jesus never mentioned something like that so get it that the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

Guy. If you canmot refute the Jeremiah and Peter references, stop quoting me. This isn't a sect or denominational discussion.