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Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:06pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
bobestman: You need to elaborate more on this because it is a bit confusing . Can you provide a source for this? |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by mbaise1000: 3:07pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame: And it would have been very simple for God not allow that tree to be there if He wanted, and easy for Him too not to allow the serpent there too, so God knows exactly what is going to happen and there is nothing that happened there by chance |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:07pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
mbaise1000: Please elaborate more and provide sources. Thanks. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by mbaise1000: 3:10pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:My source is the bible and tell me what exactly you want me to elaborate on and I will do that |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:11pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Maynman: Can you please elaborate on this 1. Priestley. 2. Yahwehist. and 3 Deuteronomy sources. Thanks. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:13pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
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Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:18pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
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Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Dantedasz(m): 3:22pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Veecruz: The Babylonian stories were written eons before the bible. The Bible was cleverly copied from these myths. You need to do a little research at times but knowing you for who you are,you would rather trade insults. : |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Maynman: 3:34pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:You will have to do it yourself. It’s easy to learn jewish mythologies. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:38pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Maynman: Ok. I will try and do a goggle search. I just thought it would be easier if you were to guide me to your source. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Maynman: 3:41pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:I don’t have any source, and I don’t want you to “believe” me, I’d rather you find out yourself and “know”. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 3:42pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Maynman: It looks interesting.
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Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by ReacherSaidNoth: 4:19pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:Where is the proof that Yahweh of Israel is a real entity, let alone omnipotent? |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 5:57pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
ReacherSaidNoth: I am actually talking in the context of the two creation stories in the Bible. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by ReacherSaidNoth: 6:09pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:The scientific errors in the narrative suggests it is the work of ignorant people and like the others have said, it is mostly copied mythology. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by TheMadame(f): 6:15pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
ReacherSaidNoth: So why are so many scientists/scientific people adherents of this narrative(book)? |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by ReacherSaidNoth: 7:38pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame:Childhood indoctrination is a powerful chain most find difficult to break inspite of education. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 8:02pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Veecruz: An omnipotent being taking a rest is a contradiction in itself. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
ReacherSaidNoth: Quite frankly I think it is more than the indoctrination. More of the fear of the unknown. There is really no proof of the existence of gods nor is there really any proof for their non existence. Most people probably just want to be on the safe side incase hell is real! |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by confusedlady(f): 8:15pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame: There is only one creation story in Genesis. Chapter one explains the creation of everything on a broad scale,while chapter two explains the creation story more in detail. The two chapters are an inter relationship of each other. Chapter two explains Chapter one in detail. As for the second question God knows everything. He is omniscient. Every human created has a free will to choose right or wrong. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 9:13pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
One can see examples of these different sources when comparing similar biblical stories. For example, the Creation myth of Genesis 1:1 has God/Elohim create the world, then Genesis 2:5–25 has God/Yahweh make the world; these two Creation myths differ from each other on both substantive and stylistic issues. There are other places in which the biblical narrative covers the same ground two or more times. For example, in Genesis there are three stories in which a patriarch fools a foreign king about the status of the patriarch’s wife, claiming her instead to be his sister. This event is reported between Abraham and Pharaoh over Sarah (12:10–20), with Abraham and Abimelekh over Sarah (20:2–18), and with Isaac and Abimelekh over Rebekah (26:1–11). Moreover, there are two Flood stories in Genesis 7: in the first only certain animals (e.g., seven pairs of clean animals and seven pairs of birds) are brought onto the Ark (Genesis 7:2–3), while in the second all living animals are brought in pairs to the Ark (Genesis 7:8–9 and 7:14–16). These and other indications have persuaded biblical scholars that there are four strands interwoven in the Pentateuch: the Yahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, and Priestly—hence J, E, D, and P. The Yahwist’s account, written in the time of David and Solomon around 950 BCE, asks these questions about the Jewish empire: For what purpose was this empire created? For how long will it exist? Why was the gift of the empire granted to the Jews? J is a firm and final statement. At this point in history, the Jews looked backward in time to account for the period of greatness at hand. The Yahwist’s account, produced at the height of the glory of the Davidic monarchy, told the story of the federation of the tribes of Israel, now a single kingdom under Solomon—with a focus on Zion and Jerusalem, the metropolis of the federation. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Caveatemptor(m): 9:13pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by mbaise1000: 10:17pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
TheMadame: What I was trying to say is that there was no two creations, and that God doesn't make mistakes, that, He knew what he was doing, that he was the one that allowed the serpent in the garden and the one who put the tree in the middle of it, He allowed everything and planned it to express his attributes, that he isn't God because He created things, after all man is constantly creating things, He is God because He demands worship and deserves worship, He know what will happen in advance. Simply put, He planned everything, if we want yo believe that he is all knowing, what happened in the garden of Eden is among everything else |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Samunique(m): 7:41am On Jul 31, 2023 |
TheMadame:Genesis 2 is the details of the account of creation. For instance, during the creation of man in chapter 1:26-28, these verses never explain the details about Adam's creation until you read Genesis 2 vs 7. Likewise, more explanations are given about the creation of the woman, how and why she was created. So Genesis chapter 2 gives the details of the creation and expounds on it. On a simple term, Genesis chapter 2 explains the account of creation that begins in chapter one in details....... |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Maynman: 9:16am On Jul 31, 2023 |
mbaise1000:Why then did he regret if he planned everything? |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by mbaise1000: 2:00pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
Maynman: If you say God regrets anything, it means that disagree when He also said that, He knows you even before you are born, that He knows every single strand of hair on your head. It was also said in the bible that THOSE whom He PREDESTINATE, Them He also CALLED. He also told pharoah that, FOR these purpose I created you, that I will prove my power on you. Like I said before, was He not the one that put that tree in the garden of Eden? It's His film, His play |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Maynman: 2:02pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
mbaise1000:What does this mean |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Veecruz: 3:18pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
Caveatemptor: Gosh, what a devil. I pity anyone who works under you. What a slaver. Real caveat emptor. Everybody suppose run from you since you be devil true true. A caterpillar does not stop being powerfull since its engine is turned off not a submarine weak since it is in break water mode. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Veecruz: 3:37pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
Dantedasz: And even in their days they had liars and devils too. So it doesn't matter who reports first but we know who reports the Truth |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by Veecruz: 3:48pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
TheMadame: Now you have moved post from saying "God did not know,". They didn't need to know what is good or bad but they certainly knew that they were supposed to have continued obeying God. So no case. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by vdestro: 4:23pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
ReacherSaidNoth: Isreal is today exactly where God Said they would always be even He removed them from there. This is clearly an unassailable proof of Him and His Power. |
Re: Two Creation Stories In The Book Of genesis by vdestro: 4:26pm On Jul 31, 2023 |
Caveatemptor: It is because God was undeniable in the past. You are the very generation which the bible prophecied will come and now you prove that also True. |
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