AntiChristian:

1.) The Abrahamic God is omniscient.
Thus 2.) If Jesus is the Abrahamic God, then Jesus is omniscient, because someone cannot be who we've perceived him as and yet not have the essential attributes of that person.

3.) If Jesus is omniscient, then Jesus knows when his second coming will happen.
But 4.) Jesus does not know when his second coming will happen on grounds of the gospel.
And subsequently 5.) Jesus is not omniscient.

Hence 6.) Jesus is not the Abrahamic God.

7.) If Jesus is not the Abrahamic God, and yet the concept of God is attributed to him by means of any doctrine, then that doctrine contains the equivocation fallacy, particularly because it contains the attribution of once concept to two distinct persons.
Hence 8.) any doctrine that contains the attribution of God to Jesus contains the equivocation fallacy.

9.) The doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of the hypostatic union and the Athanasian creed contains the attribution of the concept of God to Jesus.
And subsequently 10.) the doctrine of the trinity, the Athanasian creed, and the doctrine of the hypostatic union contains the equivocation fallacy.
11.) Every doctrine that contains the fallacy violates the law of identity.
So 12.) the doctrine of the trinity etc violates the law of identity.
13.) If a doctrine violated the law of identity, then it also violates the law of non contradiction, because the violation of the law of identity implies that A is not A.
And subsequently 14.) the doctrine of the trinity violates the law of non contradiction.
15.) For every doctrine, the doctrine is not logically incoherent if (and only if) it does not violate the law of non contradiction.
Hence 16.) the doctrine of trinity is necessarily logically incoherent.

17.) If a doctrine is logically incoherent, then the doctrine is not true, because only that which is coherent is true on grounds of the coherence theory of truth.
Hence 18.) the doctrine of trinity etc is not true.
19.) It is either that a doctrine is true or false or logically incoherent.
Therefore 20.) the doctrine of trinity is not only logically incoherent but false.

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TenQ:

AntiChristian:

1.) The Abrahamic God is omniscient.
Thus 2.) If Jesus is the Abrahamic God, then Jesus is omniscient, because someone cannot be who we've perceived him as and yet not have the essential attributes of that person.

3.) If Jesus is omniscient, then Jesus knows when his second coming will happen.
But 4.) Jesus does not know when his second coming will happen on grounds of the gospel.
And subsequently 5.) Jesus is not omniscient.

Hence 6.) Jesus is not the Abrahamic God.

7.) If Jesus is not the Abrahamic God, and yet the concept of God is attributed to him by means of any doctrine, then that doctrine contains the equivocation fallacy, particularly because it contains the attribution of once concept to two distinct persons.
Hence 8.) any doctrine that contains the attribution of God to Jesus contains the equivocation fallacy.

9.) The doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of the hypostatic union and the Athanasian creed contains the attribution of the concept of God to Jesus.
And subsequently 10.) the doctrine of the trinity, the Athanasian creed, and the doctrine of the hypostatic union contains the equivocation fallacy.
11.) Every doctrine that contains the fallacy violates the law of identity.
So 12.) the doctrine of the trinity etc violates the law of identity.
13.) If a doctrine violated the law of identity, then it also violates the law of non contradiction, because the violation of the law of identity implies that A is not A.
And subsequently 14.) the doctrine of the trinity violates the law of non contradiction.
15.) For every doctrine, the doctrine is not logically incoherent if (and only if) it does not violate the law of non contradiction.
Hence 16.) the doctrine of trinity is necessarily logically incoherent.

17.) If a doctrine is logically incoherent, then the doctrine is not true, because only that which is coherent is true on grounds of the coherence theory of truth.
Hence 18.) the doctrine of trinity etc is not true.
19.) It is either that a doctrine is true or false or logically incoherent.
Therefore 20.) the doctrine of trinity is not only logically incoherent but false.

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AntiChristian:


How is this related to the topic?

preciousee17:
The funniest part is that when the so-called Allah always spoke, the Arabic pronouns were always plural...

I wonder how one Allah can be standing alone and saying WE instead of I ...

Especially when 'Allah' said, “Mohammed, the day you lie against us, we will cut off your aorta”

Later as Mohammed died and was complaining that they have cut his aorta, you all are saying it's poison from the Jewish lady he took as a sex slave 😏

AntiChristian:


Stop telling lies, what is true is that Allah uses the pronouns "He", I, and We!
And He emphasized that He is One while going against trinity!

And what about the death of your God Jesus while accusing Himself of forsaking himself, can you pray to die like that? Or that of John the Baptist or Paul?

TenQ:

You claimed that Trinity is ILLOGICAL :

I thus showed you both Duality and Trinity in the Qur'an. Are they also Illogical?






AGAIN:
Please just answer this question and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.


Question 1:
Jubril is an Angel and he became a perfect Man when he came to Mary!
Since we know that man and angels are completely different, tell me:
Did Jibril stop being an Angel when he became Human?


Question 2:
Jesus is the Word of God, the Spirit of God and a human Messanger of God. Since the Word of God is not the Spirit of God and a human being is not a spirit.
Did Jesus stop being the Spirit of Allah and his word when he became Human?


These are examples of Duality and Trinity in Islam.
Please just answer these two simple questions and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.

AntiChristian:

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TenQ:

You claimed that Trinity is ILLOGICAL :

I thus showed you both Duality and Trinity in the Qur'an. Are they also Illogical?

AGAIN:
Please just answer this question and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.


Question 1:
Jubril is an Angel and he became a perfect Man when he came to Mary!
Since we know that man and angels are completely different, tell me:
Did Jibril stop being an Angel when he became Human?

Question 2:
Jesus is the Word of God, the Spirit of God and a human Messanger of God. Since the Word of God is not the Spirit of God and a human being is not a spirit.
Did Jesus stop being the Spirit of Allah and his word when he became Human?

These are examples of Duality and Trinity in Islam.
Please just answer these two simple questions and tell me if
1. It is true
2. It is logical.

TenQ:

Have I not shown you both Duality and Trinity in your Quran?

Tell me they are Illogical

AntiChristian:


Where is the trinity?

AntiChristian:


Duality and Trinity does not exist in the Qur'an as you claim!

Yes, this is true and logical. Angels could take on the shape of man for as long as Allah wills. However, Jubril was not reborn as a human. This is a miracle. It is not the same as the human body and Soul/Spirit duality!



Allah called Jesus the word of Allah and RuhuAllah and also called him His servant (Maryam 19:30)! This means Jesus was a creation of Allah!
Injeel is also the word of God!
The Torah is also the word of God!
The Qur'an is also the word of God!
The Zabur is also the word of God!

Allah does not exist as a person with Zabur, Injeel or the Qur'an despite them all being His words!



False and Illogical!

TenQ:



Using your argument about Trinity , are you saying that the concept of TAOHEED too does NOT exist in the Qur'an!
If the concept of Taoheed exist in the Qur'an, then the concept of Duality and Trinity exist in the Quran.


1. You agree that Jubril was still an Angel while he was a perfect man visiting Mary.

This is Duality my friend.
Jubril was both Man and Angel at the same time.

Of course, only God can do this simple miracle. LOL!

2. You agree that Jesus is the Word of Allah, the Spirit of Allah and a Human messanger all at the same time.

This is Trinity my friend.
Except you can prove that the spirit and word of Allah is exactly the same thing. And also that a Human being can be the Spirit of Allah!

Jesus was the Word, the Spirit and the Human messanger at the same time.

Of course, only God can do this simple miracle. LOL!

3. Let me ask you another question.
When Mohammed went to the seven heavens and met with Adam, Moses, Jesus, Jacob etc.
a. Did he truly see them or it was a figment of his imagination
b. If Mohammed saw them, did it mean that these prophets body resurected to heaven?

If these prophets were not yet resurected, doesn't it mean they have two simultaneous existence : one in the grave (their bodies) and one in paradise?


Is this not Duality?

AntiChristian:

1.) The Abrahamic God is omniscient.
Thus 2.) If Jesus is the Abrahamic God, then Jesus is omniscient, because someone cannot be who we've perceived him as and yet not have the essential attributes of that person.

3.) If Jesus is omniscient, then Jesus knows when his second coming will happen.
But 4.) Jesus does not know when his second coming will happen on grounds of the gospel.
And subsequently 5.) Jesus is not omniscient.

Hence 6.) Jesus is not the Abrahamic God.

7.) If Jesus is not the Abrahamic God, and yet the concept of God is attributed to him by means of any doctrine, then that doctrine contains the equivocation fallacy, particularly because it contains the attribution of once concept to two distinct persons.
Hence 8.) any doctrine that contains the attribution of God to Jesus contains the equivocation fallacy.

9.) The doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of the hypostatic union and the Athanasian creed contains the attribution of the concept of God to Jesus.
And subsequently 10.) the doctrine of the trinity, the Athanasian creed, and the doctrine of the hypostatic union contains the equivocation fallacy.
11.) Every doctrine that contains the fallacy violates the law of identity.
So 12.) the doctrine of the trinity etc violates the law of identity.
13.) If a doctrine violated the law of identity, then it also violates the law of non contradiction, because the violation of the law of identity implies that A is not A.
And subsequently 14.) the doctrine of the trinity violates the law of non contradiction.
15.) For every doctrine, the doctrine is not logically incoherent if (and only if) it does not violate the law of non contradiction.
Hence 16.) the doctrine of trinity is necessarily logically incoherent.

17.) If a doctrine is logically incoherent, then the doctrine is not true, because only that which is coherent is true on grounds of the coherence theory of truth.
Hence 18.) the doctrine of trinity etc is not true.
19.) It is either that a doctrine is true or false or logically incoherent.
Therefore 20.) the doctrine of trinity is not only logically incoherent but false.

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FxMasterz:


You Muslims are ignorantly obsessed with the physical Jesus. The real Jesus of the Christians is the resurrected Jesus.

When did Jesus become King of Kings? After His resurrection. When did He become Lord of lords? After His resurrection. When did He become Saviour? After His resurrection.

The physical Jesus limited himself to the human limitation in order to fulfil his human mandate. He left behind, everything He had and represented while on earth, then, took them up again after His resurrection.

That's why, if you know the physical Jesus without knowing the resurrected Jesus, your knowledge is useless. The resurrected Jesus is the REAL Jesus. Those who know the Resurrected Jesus are eternally superior to those who merely know rhe physical Jesus!

That's how we know Jesus. That's why it is foolish of anyone to say Paul is unworthy of apostleship because he didn't meet the physical Jesus. That's nonesense. Even if you meet the physical Jesus, you must know Him in the spiritual to really know Him.

That's why, you can't know Jesus more than us. We have a relationship with the resurrected Jesus. That's the real Jesus. The physical Jesus was a mere 30yr humanly limited representation of the unlimited eternal Jesus who was, who is and is to come.

Naijaboy18:

Christianity is idolatry that’s why your more worried about criticizing the messenger than the message

SIRTee15:


But kissing the black stone isn't idolatry. Praying facing a black stone isn't idolatry.
How's that different from idol worshippers who face a graven image when pouring libations to their gods.
U guys are pagans. If u don't know, I'm telling u now.

Naijaboy18:

Ignorant

Naijaboy18:

Christianity is idolatry that’s why your more worried about criticizing the messenger than the message

AntiChristian:


How is this related to the topic?

MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ you just like engaging churchgoers all the time with arguments!

MightySparrow:

Shrine goer.
How market?

MaxInDHouse:


OK so you admitted that you're a churchgoer?

Hmmmmmmm this is wonderful!

I said my friend is busy arguing with churchgoers and only you responded to counter my comment.

Henceforth i will no longer respond to you now it's obvious you know that you're just a misinformed churchgoers and you're not ready to learn!